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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by nmreports: 1:58pm On Feb 05, 2017
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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Ritaokafor(f): 1:59pm On Feb 05, 2017
School na school. If ur parents can shield u from d hardship of life,go for private uni with already made job after graduation, if not go for public uni n struggle ur way to d top.

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:04pm On Feb 05, 2017
donfemo:
@OP I think it is reckless and foolish to say "Asides Covenant University which has been pursuing academic excellence rigorously, all other private universities are mere profit companies" I am a graduate of the prestigious Ahmadu Bello university Zaria and i work with a lot of Bowen, Babcock graduates and they are doing good in their fields. I will not be too quick to condemn a school that i haven't been to. Yes a lot are just for profit without academic excellence but you cant just say all of them. Besides in my opinion on of the things really helping Covenant is the influence of the church. I know a lot of graduate from there and they were not as i expected. Cheers
Defending private universities but 'attacking' CU's credibility is counterproductive and contradictory. CU, Babcock, ABUAD e.t.c are all similar.

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by MakeADifference: 2:05pm On Feb 05, 2017
Don't think am anti CU. I just said CU is better than UI earlier on.

Nigeria, yes. Africa not now. Why?

1. Research areas. You can't be everything. Where does CU want to focus?

2. Quality of faculty. Top universities in Africa have been able to attract, retain, and build knowledge.

3. Quality of undergraduate scholarship (I don't mean finances now. I mean students)

4. Financing. Research can not be funded by CU alone. No. Govt, public organisations and industry does it together. In Nigeria? O.Y.O

See CU has got the dream, the passion. But I tell you, Nigeria's issues are affecting the university even if it isn't glaring.

Research isn't easy. Research culture and ability isnt here in this land. You can't just zoom above other universities, no. Not by wishes.





Statsocial:
And by the way when it comes to research, only UI exceeds Covenant university right now as shown by webometrics( which measures research relevance). God willing, CU would displace UI on THE by next year-we are working aggressively to achieve that. Also, when comparing these universities remember that Ui is decades older than Covenant university. However, CU has more funds than UI and we've releasing publications at a very high rate. However, these publications would only reflect in some months time on webometrics when Scholars across the globe would have used them for their own research. But lets be clear about one thing, we are going for number one in Nigeria and Africa.

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by 1k001(m): 2:05pm On Feb 05, 2017
In all this discussion, we forget the primary reason for a university. It is to allow people learn to think for themselves. Universities are supposed to promote logic and reasoning via exposure to multiple schools of thought and ways of being. So for private universities that attempt to control what their students are exposed to, they will never measure up to public universities. On the other hand, private universities that espouse liberal thinking, allow students develop independent minds and behaviours, will go on to supersede public universities.

However were you to ask me where I would send my kid, I would choose a private university as they seem to have better academics. There is too much academic rot in the public system that the relative intellectual freedom it provides can't redeem it. I will do the work on the outside to promote their liberal mind and free thinking.

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Omonoba1: 2:05pm On Feb 05, 2017
ezex:
university is about exposure,not jacking like hell....most privatee univ e.g igbinedion university ,u cant compare the level of exposure of the students to that of students in public univ...iuo boys know how to live well affter school,the urge to succeed is there..Sorry to burst ur head op,no be wetin u learn for school go put food 4 ur gable..shikena
hmmm! Better exposed and the urge to succeed in private university students is more than in public university students Kontinu! ..

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:06pm On Feb 05, 2017
MakeADifference:
If you have a chance to choose of UI or Covenant for research, jump at Covenant. By the way I've been to UI



I agree.
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:07pm On Feb 05, 2017
smackimorn:
University of Ibadan (1948) OAU (1961) Covenant University (2002)
Covenant University is indeed greater grin
Lol u no well
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:11pm On Feb 05, 2017
vicfuntop:
Not again. Aren't u guys tired of this. One thing I love about the private uni is the student teacher ratio.
My dear that's cos they don't have much students vying for admission there. Believe me when I tell you that if the population of students grows, they won't increase the number of teachers cos their main aim is to make profit and not to impact knowledge
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:16pm On Feb 05, 2017
Public universities breed cultism although not all but private doesn't .

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 2:28pm On Feb 05, 2017
ednut1:
Una don start again o, although i attended a public uni, private uni guys are more than a match. Go to KPMG, PWC, Access bank, Stanbic, Diamond bank, Sclum etc na Babcock and convenant guys dey rain there. they mostly have better packaging than public uni guys. the same thing that happened to public secondary school will soon happen to Public unis.

The reason they are reigning in top companies is the fact that their parents have been rich and influential from day one.
Don't ever think it's cos of what they know

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:29pm On Feb 05, 2017
MakeADifference:
Don't think am anti CU. I just said CU is better than UI earlier on.

Nigeria, yes. Africa not now. Why?

1. Research areas. You can't be everything. Where does CU want to focus?

2. Quality of faculty. Top universities in Africa have been able to attract, retain, and build knowledge.

3. Quality of undergraduate scholarship (I don't mean finances now. I mean students)

4. Financing. Research can not be funded by CU alone. No. Govt, public organisations and industry does it together. In Nigeria? O.Y.O

See CU has got the dream, the passion. But I tell you, Nigeria's issues are affecting the university even if it isn't glaring.

Research isn't easy. Research culture and ability isnt here in this land. You can't just zoom above other universities, no. Not by wishes.





Ok when it comes to research I believe a church that has the capacity to build 7 universities can fund its research to excellence- they are currently doing it. As regards industry partnership, we are also doing averagely good. CU needs to become a research destination for it to become attractive to industry and currently there is a lot more cooperation we get from industry because the university is constantly building capacity and expanding its frontiers. I believe there as been a huge break with the quality of research that 2016 yielded for CU-if webometrics wasn't based on the 2010-2015 period for its last ranking, CU would have rated top 5 in Africa. I am very confident the university would do exceptionally well in the next year on all reputable rankings. Btw I really wasn't disputing your brilliantly laid out points I only intended to reaffirm it..
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:37pm On Feb 05, 2017
kretoz:
My dear that's cos they don't have much students vying for admission there. Believe me when I tell you that if the population of students grows, they won't increase the number of teachers cos their main aim is to make profit and not to impact knowledge
Covenant university for instance doesn not really want student growth it currently has about 8,000 students with 1000 academic staff. Also a school does not need a large student base to succeed e.g the Caltech is the best university in the world(TimesHigherE) but only has about 2000 students

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:39pm On Feb 05, 2017
kretoz:
My dear that's cos they don't have much students vying for admission there. Believe me when I tell you that if the population of students grows, they won't increase the number of teachers cos their main aim is to make profit and not to impact knowledge

Believe me when I tell you that they would reduce the number of students intake. That's how it would be
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by oluwanoni: 2:41pm On Feb 05, 2017
This comparison again!!.

As far as I am concerned, we would all go to the Labour market, whether private or public, that's when you show the stuff, you are made of...... I all see here is bragging rites, do not boast of your self, but boast of the Lord, that's one of edges that distinguish them.

Training is more than academics, like someone stated : life.

Are graduates been equipped apart from academics and life, what about how to live in our generation where almost everything is perverse, where young people can't find do jobs, some individuals cook the book, etc.

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by MakeADifference: 2:44pm On Feb 05, 2017
I know you arent disputing it. That's what discussion is all about.

The church CANNOT fund research meaningfully. The cost is simply too high. They are trying, yes. But they won't be able to fund it.

Check research spendings by some private companies. Our whole budget for education isn't up to it. In fact one company's advertising budget was more than one particular country's education budget.

Research is expensive. I hope you'll one day visit the top 10 universities door their websites. You'll be shocked. Visit South African universities. Some have whole campuses dedicated to military research, another to business.

It is a system. It is more than some tests and then findings and paper.

Their nations have research centres that support funding. They have professors with millions of dollars of research funding.

Some have gone on to commercialise their research outputs. It further strengthens their capacity.

We've still got a long way to go in so many regards.









Statsocial:

Ok when it comes to research I believe a church
that has the capacity to build 7 universities can fund its research to excellence- they are currently doing it. As regards industry partnership, we are also doing averagely good. CU needs to become a research destination for it to become attractive to industry and currently there is a lot more cooperation we get from industry because the university is constantly building capacity and expanding its frontiers. I believe there as been a huge break with the quality of research that 2016 yielded for CU-if webometrics wasn't based on the 2010-2015 period for its last ranking, CU would have rated top 5 in Africa. I am very confident the university would do exceptionally well in the next year on all reputable rankings. Btw I really wasn't disputing your brilliantly laid out points I only intended to reaffirm it..
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 2:54pm On Feb 05, 2017
SonOfEl:
First of all, I have no personal beef or ish with private universities in Nigeria. Kudos to them. However I feel they are no match for the public universities.

Asides Covenant University which has been pursuing academic excellence rigorously, all other private universities are mere profit companies.

But even if you tell me to pick between covenant university and any first or second generation public university, I would still go for the public universities. Why?

1. They have a well established alumni of global reckoning.
2. They are not driven or motivated by profit as observed in private schools which are owned by private individuals or groups. They are driven by innate academic excellence.
3. Unlike private universities, they expose one to the real world of obstacles, manoeuverings, economy, and independence, all together laced with academic pursuit.

I know Covenant (and others) aims to be like Harvard university. But harvard, though private in ownership, is public in setting. The US government is a serious stakeholder in the university, so the university is not entirely private so to say.

Just my take. Don't crucify me abeg o....

am a graduate of a public university Computer Science, I rather do my masters in CU than all this public university in Nigeria that their lecturer don't no common Html

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by IYANGBALI: 3:03pm On Feb 05, 2017
kabrud:
Private universities are just glorified secondary schools.
God bless you


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If I hear anything else, I'll still let you know.

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by curvilicious: 3:04pm On Feb 05, 2017
Public all the way.............
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by curvilicious: 3:04pm On Feb 05, 2017
IYANGBALI:
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If I hear anything else, I'll still let you know.

Lol! Not interested cheesy

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Originalsly: 3:06pm On Feb 05, 2017
Which degree is more recognised and accepted internationally?.... that's the better one.
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 3:08pm On Feb 05, 2017
MakeADifference:
I know you arent disputing it. That's what discussion is all about.

The church CANNOT fund research meaningfully. The cost is simply too high. They are trying, yes. But they won't be able to fund it.

Check research spendings by some private companies. Our whole budget for education isn't up to it. In fact one company's advertising budget was more than one particular country's education budget.

Research is expensive. I hope you'll one day visit the top 10 universities door their websites. You'll be shocked. Visit South African universities. Some have whole campuses dedicated to military research, another to business.

It is a system. It is more than some tests and then findings and paper.

Their nations have research centres that support funding. They have professors with millions of dollars of research funding.

Some have gone on to commercialise their research outputs. It further strengthens their capacity.

We've still got a long way to go in so many regards.









True. I think we can utilize the private sector from the Covenant university perspective but that would mean we have to be highly relevant. While I was studying in CU my department did collaborate with IITA and even FIIRO. However, a process did start which was tagged 'town and gown'- meant to bridge the gap between industry and academia. And CU's management did agree that it needs to lay the foundation for proper research in Nigeria. We had companies come to tell us what they needed and we are currently poised to help them get those solutions. I believe If we can lay that foundational trust by being relevant to industry they would be able to allocate funds to CU's research. Currently, the university hs created about 20 research clusters and is moving to strengthen post graduate studies and research. As regards the Nigerian government funding research I don't think it would be sane for CU to expect such-the govt would need to first fund its own universities before it can fo so for private universities. We, members of the Alumni are also ready to make needed financial injections as we strengthen ourselves in the corporate and business world..

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Exponental(m): 3:09pm On Feb 05, 2017
Education is one of the problems in the country today. Most of what we learn we don't need. Either private or public, the system needs to be reviewed to grow the nation!
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by MakeADifference: 3:31pm On Feb 05, 2017
Govt funding of research should not be limited to public universities.

I believe govt only needs to establish areas were research is needed. Then whoever is capable wherever should be able to get from funds meant for that research.

Thee efforts of Redeemers Uni during the Ebola crisis is an example. Why didn't govt shun the uni cos it was private?

If it is knowledge that will benefit our nation, and if a uni has proven capacity in that field, they should also benefit from research funding.

But then CU and other private unis should strive to compete globally. Funding from intnl sources can really help to increase research output too.







Statsocial:

True. I think we can utilize the private sector from the Covenant university perspective but that would mean we have to be highly relevant. While I was studying in CU my department did collaborate with IITA and even FIIRO. However, a process did start which was tagged 'town and gown'- meant to bridge the gap between industry and academia. And CU's management did agree that it needs to lay the foundation for proper research in Nigeria. We had companies come to tell us what they needed and we are currently poised to help them get those solutions. I believe If we can lay that foundational trust by being relevant to industry they would be able to allocate funds to CU's research. Currently, the university hs created about 20 research clusters and is moving to strengthen post graduate studies and research. As regards the Nigerian government funding research I don't think it would be sane for CU to expect such-the govt would need to first fund its own universities before it can fo so for private universities. We, members of the Alumni are also ready to make needed financial injections as we strengthen ourselves in the corporate and business world..

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by EAZY2422(m): 3:36pm On Feb 05, 2017
donfemo:
@OP I think it is reckless and foolish to say "Asides Covenant University which has been pursuing academic excellence rigorously, all other private universities are mere profit companies" I am a graduate of the prestigious Ahmadu Bello university Zaria and i work with a lot of Bowen, Babcock graduates and they are doing good in their fields. I will not be too quick to condemn a school that i haven't been to. Yes a lot are just for profit without academic excellence but you cant just say all of them. Cheers
don't mind dis op.i was just silent cos he asked for peace if not.......i don't understand why some people just prefer to assume what they don't even have knowledge about.am also a graduate from ABU zaria,and i know what i have gained since leaving school and how my experiences have gone a long way to pave some paths for me even when i know the job i have now is far away from what i studied in school....jst like the whites say,everything that have an advantage have its disadvantage.am relating this to the topic.
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by EAZY2422(m): 3:38pm On Feb 05, 2017
adewumiopeyemi:
Joseph ayo babalola university one of the best private university in Nigeria hit like if u believe
wait! Are u ill?
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 3:43pm On Feb 05, 2017
Jaymaxxy:
In a private university, you only learn academics and academics alone.

In a public university, you learn about academics and LIFE.

And how do your life experience get you a job?

grin

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Deem: 3:44pm On Feb 05, 2017
It is not the school that makes a child, but the child makes the school!
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 3:50pm On Feb 05, 2017
First of, I wouldn't categories and compare all Federal Institutions against Private institutions.

I'd talk about the ones I've been to.

Federal Universities: UNAB, UI, OAU

Private University: Covenant

I'd say it here and now that Covenant University is far better than all the federal universities up there when it comes to Engineering. Quote me anywhere.

Theoretically they are more sound. Better in pratical is good and the kind of connections you build mehn, state of the art shiit.

I'm not saying UI, OAU engineering guys are not good, cos the truth is those guys too rock, but when it comes to learning and getting the competencies that matter in the job market, CU beats them all hands down.

My two cents

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by Nobody: 3:52pm On Feb 05, 2017
Exponental:
Education is one of the problems in the country today. Most of what we learn we don't need. Either private or public, the system needs to be reviewed to grow the nation!
don't mind them instead of talking about which University students they make money after school, our engineers go school but they can't build a wheelchair or wheelbarrow, mtcheewww
Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by R0LL0N(m): 4:03pm On Feb 05, 2017
proud to be a Babcock univ graduate

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Re: Private Universities Vs Public Universities by uy2kng: 4:06pm On Feb 05, 2017
AAU,Ekpoma is the best.Imagine the crop of talented lawyers,Architects,and graduates it has produced.The privates Universities are there to make profits.Can graduates from private Universities compete with their mates from the public Universities?

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