₦airaland Forum

thuggCheetah:
Tazmodeen my yoruba muslim brother, u are not alone, in fact, b4 I came across dis news , my BP was around 120/80mmHg, but as soon as I red it, my BP increased to 835/472mmHg
Y do dey want to do dis to us? We have been asslickin dem since 1800 , allowed dem to behead our obas and put their emirs in kwara
Dey are not still satisfied..now dey have finished using us, dey now want to loosen their grip from our shiny cone shaped skulls
Plz now is not d tym for pretense, just join me and wail

@bolded. I say a big amen for you.

Rilwayne001 You never say anything. Come and share your views.

feldido:
I love The Profs answers...but I hate the part he insinuated that the north will win elections any time in Nigeria. The north is already divided in Religious lines, Hausa/Fulani, Middle belt...etc

southern kaduna, agatu, dogo hawa killings comes to mind

FriendChoice:
Rilwayne001 You never say anything. Come and share your views.

Okay sir. Make i read the thread sef.

MayNNation:
Wait till it happens.

idiotic ashawo...from heartbreak to Yoruba defender

months:
RITUAL KILLING IS DAILY WORSHIP IN ODUDUWA.


FROM PAPA TO PIKIN AND EVEN AMONGST SIBLING.


ONE THING THAT STANDS OUT IS THAT ALL THE SUFFERING IN THE PICTURES ARE CAUSED BUY YORUBAS.


MUST WE CONTINUE? MUST THE SATANIC COUNTRY FOUNDED BY SATAN WORSHIPERS CONTINUE? IS NIGERIA WORTH SAVING FROM DISINTEGRATION?

For someone who doesn't know the difference between "buy" and "by" can't you see that your life is gradually becoming a waste? Or is that also caused "buy" Yorubas?

Ilovewetpussy:
Let d breakup be fast so that the nitwits afonjas will feel d heat very set of lazy people that always specialize in rituals and crimes

Just take a look at your moniker again and tell me if you sound like a responsible fellow.

pcei:
south east and south south precisely. West shld go on their own, they're not reliable

And it is people like you that will be doing visa scam to enter Lagos and Ibadan after the breakup.

IPOB123london:
only in this contraption

question is let them demonstrate their readiness by action

they think we are fools

if people like atiku want restructuring he should put that in practice by try to get mandate signed by his boko harem northerners then we know

let these waste space of boko harem agents know this is 2017

Let's just break up biko, enough of ds talk. Both sides will be beta off

FriendChoice:
Rilwayne001 You never say anything. Come and share your views.

Well, my view on the whole thing is that the man is not honest to himself. Or maybe he is, whilst others sees him as speaking for himself and not for the whole north.

lordyugo:
hilarious coming from a region that will go extinct if the country breaks up. Is it the alayes collecting low naira denominations or the omo niles abi the older afonja generation chopping up babies or molesting them that will save ur region. Shouldn't u be somewhr selling jedi jedi abi alomo if bleaching or becoming a babymama will let u do dat cos dats d average mindset of an afonja female

Is that why your family is scrounging for a living in the slums of Ibadan and Lagos?

The funniest part of all this is that if push comes to shove almost all the easterners living in the west will change their names just to continue living there after the breakup.

Rilwayne001:
Well, my view on the whole thing is that the man is not honest to himself. Or maybe he is, whilst others sees him as speaking for himself and not for the whole north.

I believe he is speaking the mind of the majority. I stand with his words. An average northerner wasn't even interest in one Nigeria or divided Nigeria.

Ioannes:
Is that why your family is scrounging for a living in the slums of Ibadan and Lagos?

The funniest part of all this is that if push comes to shove almost all the easterners living in the west will change their names just to continue living there after the breakup.

ppl dat scrounge dnt buy up lands nd houses meant for ur future generations cos of that afonja genetic malfunction of laziness to make money or leave dr comfort zones.
but u guys make gud tailors, cab guys, hairdressers , mechanics

Buyeradvertcom:
Why is the North ready for dissolution? What are the indices?

The biggest indices other Nigerians do not want Nigeria; so I don’t see why the North should insist on having Nigeria. That is the biggest index I have. And this is on the basis of the recent statements. The Nigerian elite are the ones undermining the existence of the country and as long as they remain in the fore-front as elite and politicians, so long as we are going to have problems, so long will Nigeria not have the rapid development that we had hoped to when we got independence in 1960.

Have we statements that are calling for the dissolution of this country?

No, there are, there are, there are; the Nwabuezes of this world. We sat with him a number of times, we argued, he is vehemently anti-North, anti-Hausa/Fulani. I spoke to him and he cannot deny this.

What I know they have been talking about is restructuring, that the country should be restructured

Which restructuring? What restructuring do you want? Initially, there was a bloc country broken into regions. The regions were broken into states and today, there are 774 local governments, mainly in pursuance of so-called grassroots participation in government. What else is there?

The only thing that we have not had…we had constitutional conferences so many of them. We had all these creation of states, which we were not able to do as civilians and we only waited for the military to come and do them and still people are saying that they are not satisfied with the structure as it is in Nigeria.

Are you sure you are speaking the minds of northerners because they will challenge you?

They are welcome. I am waiting for them. I am speaking my mind. I am a northerner and there are so many people who share my views and there are so many people who may not share my views, but I can assure you there are quite a number of people who share these views today.

The indicators are very clear. The North appears as if it is the one that should carry the can for Nigeria’s unity and this is not acceptable anymore. If Nigeria is beneficial to all Nigerians, so be it, but Nigeria should not be kept while the North is being blackmailed and that Nigeria unity should be at the expense of the North. So this is not acceptable anymore. So, the North is ready for dissolution, anytime.

If that is the case, how do we go about the dissolution?

Well, we can…the only thing I was going to say and I didn’t say is that we had all the constitutional conferences that we should never have had from colonial to post colonial periods; constitutional conferences every day, Nigeria is not working, what can we do; we kept doing all these conferences and so on.

The only thing we have not done which I prefer we do is Sovereign National Conference where the decision of the people will determine whether Nigeria stays as a country or people will go in as many separate ways as they choose. So there should be no more restructuring in terms of the geography of the country as far as I know that will make any sense, but restructuring politically, socially and so on …we made quite a number of mistakes.

For example I am one of those who don’t believe in presidential system. This is the first mistake Nigeria made, to abandon the parliamentary system of government and adopt this Karakara presidential system of government, which contribution to the Nigerian state is merely corruption, indiscipline and so on. For those of us who lived in the days of parliamentary system, we can say that there is more accountability in the system. You cannot be a minister unless you are elected from your constituency. But now, if you are a bootlicker and praise singer of the president, governor or local government chairman you are given a position.

But these conferences you attended were meant to address these issues you have raised. Yet the results of the sittings have not manifested. Why is this so?

This is the more reason why now we should have the last kind of conference which we did not have, Sovereign National Conference where the issues will not be tinkered with, just a simple resolution whether this is a country that we want to keep or whether this is a country we should divide in accordance with historical conveniences and so on and so forth. And this should be quite possible.

It would seem Nigeria is not moving forward because…

(Cuts in) This is the main reason. Because the political processes are still being controlled by the very leadership that failed us in the past and it looks they have reached the limit of their abilities and willingness to offer change.

Would that assessment be right?

Yes and no.

We have just talked about our founding fathers. They did very well. Do you agree?

Very well. The Azikiwes, the Awolowos, the Sardauna, they did very well for their regions and for the country for that matter. But the succeeding leadership that came on the basis of a major disruption which took place in 1966 is what we are living with today.

The instability in political, economic, social, religious spheres are all consequences of those hard times that we went through. Having led the country through a civil war, you do not expect General Yakubu Gowon, himself now a special man of God, good pastor, he wouldn’t wish that the Nigerian state that he fought and perhaps could have died for to disintegrate. Talk to any of these former military officers.

But he wanted it earlier?

Exactly, if you also recorded him you might want to remind him that but you wanted it earlier. It is just the weight of leadership. If you ask Buhari today…if I confront him with my idea that this country is not sacrosanct, he would hardly speak to me because he would say the country which he fought on her side and nearly died will not die under his hands.

He is a leader now, the same thing could have happened with Babangida and any former military officer, Obasanjo in particular. He talks about the Nigerian project all the time, but what did he do as president. Well, let’s excuse him during the military leadership he provided from Murtala to himself. It was all military, but he eventually became a civilian president. I was one of those initially…he may deny, but it may be difficult for him to deny I am not one of those who made it possible because when he declared for president I was sitting with him with his wife in Ota for his declaration.

He was not even a member of the PDP at the time. We have not recruited him into the party but we decided he should indicate his interest and that’s how they slugged it out under this power rotation, which we agreed on in the 1986 conference. I was the chairman of the power sharing committee and we agreed that for the peace of Nigeria, the democracy of one man, one vote perhaps needs to be modified so that everybody should be carried along at one point or the other.

If it was on the basis of one man, one vote, of course, the North divided as it may seem to you could always vote in one place like it did in the last election. We mobilized and people never believed. Each time I gave interviews they say the North is divided and I will say no the North is not and you wait and see how the North will vote.

Are you saying it is the votes of the North that brought Buhari in as president in 2015?

Northern votes, seventy percent of the votes.

Is it not a combination of the votes from the South-west because this is one contentious issue and…

(Cuts in) There is no contention here. South-west added value in terms of spread. Buhari’s votes were not much bigger than Jonathan’s votes in the South-west. Go and check the votes in the last election. They added value in view of the fact that there is a provision in the electoral law that there is need for a spread, otherwise we would run into a run-off when those conditions are not met, the spread that you should get certain percentage of the votes in at least certain percentage of the states.

So, to that extent, the South-west contributed, added value to the advantage that Buhari had to win the election first run. If that had not come, what remains in the constitutional, legal or electoral law is that a run-off becomes necessary and a run-off means that even if you win by a majority of one vote, you have won an election and given the fact that the votes cast in the North was 70 percent, Buhari will still win an election with the votes in the North. He would have won the election, perhaps in a run-off. If the run-off provides that simple majority is enough, that’s why Buhari would still have won the election.

Without the coalition with the South-west that brought about the merger, would there have been a platform like APC that…

No, no, no. There wouldn’t have been. The coalition is between parties. It just happened that these parties were regionally based. If you take, for instance, the contributions we had in terms of parties from the South, it is ACN in the South-west and a faction of APGA in the South-east. The remaining parties, CPC-North and ANPP again, North; these are the major elements that went to form the structure that formed the APC today.

Are you sure if these factions split now, Buhari can win the 2019 election?

We are not talking about candidates now for 2019 elections.

I am just asking you because from your analysis…

(Cuts in) No, you cannot ask me whether it is Buhari that is contesting election in 2019.

Let us assume he is the person going to run.

Okay, we should assume that he runs…

(Cuts in) Are you sure Buhari will win if you remove the factions and you leave it to the North alone?

If you go back to the situation we had or we created in 2015 for Buhari to have the highest votes that made him president, assuming the same condition will exist in 2019, he will win.

http://sunnewsonline.com/north-ready-for-nigerias-breakup-prof-ango-abdullahi-northern-elders-spokesman/

....I hope the DSS will go after this fool

pcei:
the stronghold of the west is the east. Don't generalise, be specific. Is it not lagos u are talking about? Let the east go and lagos will be miserable

Is that what your uncles living in the west come back to tell you in the village? So sad.

Lagos is overpopulated and becoming a huge slum solely because your people can't stay back in their homes and develop the place.

You litter everywhere with 2 by 3 ft shops, populate our slums.

The earlier you relocate to the village the better for us, after all our governors collect almost the same federal allocation, yet y'all come from the east to share what is meant for a few, leaving your governors to embezzle your birthright, then blaming the Yorubas for your woes.

stonemasonn:
Human beings, the same Middle Belt fought the civil war on Nigeria's side, and never mind the atrocities of the cowardly Fulani cow worshiper if there should be another civil war Dan Fodios descendants would want to enlist the Middle Belt people to the war front. .....so ask again "who they middle belt?"

Dont mind the hausa fool. I blame we middlebelt people for being so calm towards hausa-fulanis. Making them think they can take us for a ride.

MIDDLEBELT WILL NEVER JOIN NORTH TO FORM ONE COUNTRY. Hausa-fulanis can form their Arewa islamic republic.

keyanZuzer:
LMAO! The East? The Yoruba tribe has been creating empires since the 16th century; during that time, the Igbos were still walking from Isreal to Nigeria . ,

You mean they were still running about stark nakid

Nowenuse:
Dont mind the hausa fool. I blame we middlebelt people for being so calm towards hausa-fulanis. Making them think they can take us for a ride.

MIDDLEBELT WILL NEVER JOIN NORTH TO FORM ONE COUNTRY. Hausa-fulanis can form their Arewa islamic republic.

You don't decide but they will. So keep shut.

lordyugo:
ppl dat scrounge dnt buy up lands nd houses meant for ur future generations cos of that afonja genetic malfunction of laziness to make money or leave dr comfort zones.
but u guys make gud tailors, cab guys, hairdressers , mechanics

You mean your ezes running about in traffic selling gala and handkerchief?

FriendChoice:
They decide where to stay. If they think leaving the north is a nice idea so be it. Else they are welcome to Northern Nigeria.

Keep your welcome.
You and i know we middlebelters and Hausa-fulanis can never form one country especially when Plateau, Southern kaduna, Gongola, Benue and Borno people are involved.
We are too different from hausas to share one country.

FriendChoice:
You don't decide but they will. So keep shut.

I am from the middlebelt silly and u and i know that majority of people in the north central and even parts of the north-east will never want a country with Hausa-fulanis.
Even if we eventually form a country with u guys, there will be permanent crisis and war.

FriendChoice:
I believe he is speaking the mind of the majority. I stand with his words. An average northerner wasn't even interest in one Nigeria or divided Nigeria.

You and i know the bolded isn't true.

Ioannes:
You mean your ezes running about in traffic selling gala and handkerchief?

u jus got to luv afonjas delusions in grandeur , really hilarious. Hv u eaten 50naira beans today?

Rilwayne001:
You and i know the bolded isn't true.

No. Do you agree with me that northerners aren't interested in the issue of one Nigeria or divided Nigeria? If no. Go on research and find it yourself. Am not joking, I mean what I said.

lordyugo:
u jus got to luv afonjas delusions in grandeur , really hilarious. Hv u eaten 50naira beans today?

The guy was right. You ibos keeping buying land and owning mansion in your imaginations.

Nowenuse:
I am from the middlebelt silly and u and i know that majority of people in the north central and even parts of the north-east will never want a country with Hausa-fulanis.
Even if we eventually form a country with u guys, there will be permanent crisis and war.

You (singular) don't decide. They (plural) will decide. So I don't have time to argue with you.

Igbo people are brainless lets see if war brake out we will kill enough in lagos first then they will remem ber where they comes from. their are even geting mouth as if they can survive in that lock land east fugitive we will pack u people out n we will leave well.

Twistaray:


The guy was right. You ibos keeping buying land and owning mansion in your imaginations.

ur lazy older afonja generation will disagree wit u loooool

feldido:
I love The Profs answers...but I hate the part he insinuated that the north will win elections any time in Nigeria. The north is already divided in Religious lines, Hausa/Fulani, Middle belt...etc

2015 election has proved you people wrong.

lordyugo

ur lazy older afonja generation will disagree wit u loooool

Looolx.
The rate at which you lazy ones abuse the word " lazy " is amazing.

That's why you lot top the list of poverty region in obodo nigeria.
Laziness is coming up with a stats and refusing to read and learn from good source and/but choose to assume somebody you don't even know is lazy.

What a disaster.

Go and sell ya gala jor

lordyugo:
u jus got to luv afonjas delusions in grandeur , really hilarious. Hv u eaten 50naira beans today?

Have you finished selling fan yogo in the traffic today boy?

If you haven't, no dinner for you.