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Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 5:17pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
HateU2:SMH. This one self wan sound smart. This particular story is VERY TRUE. 1 Like |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 5:21pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
onetrack:This is no trick. It's true. Whether it is supernatural or not is another matter. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 5:25pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:if you have any account of the event to share please do. I will love Seun and other to debunk it. I enjoy seeing them saying I don't understand the aspect where... |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 5:32pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
winetapper:I have been on this section for a while. No explanation would suffice for one who is willfully closed-minded. The already ridiculous attempt at explanation that 'the man might have filled his mouth with the pins' is enough proof that whatever you attempt to say will be an exercise in futility. 3 Likes |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Raintaker(m): 5:38pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Black magic at work, I won't be surprised if the man actually sells the pins. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 6:04pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:K honey pie |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by daremiarchs(m): 6:10pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
HateU2:that's the latest style of healing |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
I can assure you he didn't suck anything out of your body! 1 Like |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by jchioma: 6:39pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Raintaker: Then u believe in spirits. Good and evil? 1 Like |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Raintaker(m): 6:41pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
jchioma:Yes, I'm not an atheist I'm just a skeptic |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
I'm not ibo neither do I have any experience with this so well, I can't pass a judgement |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by winetapper: 7:17pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Raintaker:Don't make the argument wide. Yes he could be one of the sellers, but how come what you think he might be selling make one sick and also heal the person |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Raintaker(m): 7:28pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
winetapper:business my bro, just business.Just like creating a problem and selling the solution, most of these dibias and ci do that. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by obinna58(m): 7:35pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
winetapper: Your story is somehow not very real, lies put together or should I say you talked about the parts you remembered (and I guess u skipd some parts also) I believe you talking about susuk(charm needles as known by many) A doctor(except quack) can never inject u in quest to cure or remove susuk rather surgery will be performed after x-ray. susuk is very rare and few that knows about it uses the advantage to set trap for others Their is nothing spiritual about this. Proudly atheist |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by frank317: 7:59pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
@winetapper, That u don't understand how things work does not make it spiritual.. the healer u talk about knows his act and would probably prefer u think he has some supernatural power (so many humans enjoy being seen as super humans, even the so called ordinary pastors). This is the difference with medical doctors. Imagine if the doctors were not as open with their method, just as our traditional fore fathers saw he white. Imagine having malaria and a doctor's gives u some round white chalks and u take them according to prescibtion... Isn't that magic/spiritual enough? Trust me most traditional healers even think the are spiritual but know their process is systematic... Giving away their process will reduce the respect and rever u have for them. Imagine the ordinary way we look at doctors who have healed millions with their knowledge but because they are open, we think they are just ordinary. Trust me if the healer exposes his act to u, u will marvel. My advice for u... It is very very wrong to assume what u dontunderstand as spiritual. this style kills ur curiosity and marks u gullible. Thanks. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Seun(m): 8:15pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:The OP specifically asked us to provide a naturalistic explanation of his story and that is precisely what we are doing. The already ridiculous attempt at explanation that 'the man might have filled his mouth with the pins'Is it really less ridiculous to assert that the graphite pins were sucked out of his body into the man's mouth but somehow he experienced no pain and didn't feel the pins leaving his body and there were no holes where they were sucked out from, and no blood on the pins? 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by avaa(m): 8:22pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
onetrack: Obviously, this shit can't be repeated in a controlled environment. The annoying part of this whole story is that it is the O.Ps defense, or is it proof? for the existence of god. SMH. 2 Likes |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Nobody: 8:34pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
daremiarchs:my Bro, I just want to fly away |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 8:36pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Seun:I also know someone from Ebonyi who has experienced exactly the same thing as the OP. Do you really believe that all the healers stuff their mouth with pins? Seriously, if you really want to know the truth, take a trip to any village in Eastern Nigeria and get yourself 'injected'. Leave and go to a hospital if/when you start experiencing symptoms. Failure to do this makes everything you say here sound like a joke to me. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by frank317: 9:03pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: No one is saying these things don't happen... But are they supernatural becasue we don't understand them? Is it safe to call any phenomenom we don't understand spiritual... Seriously, how does tagging unclear evens spiritual help us? To me, it's safe to probably assume that there is a process that is yet clear to us... But calling it spiritual does not help us in anyway... God the healers process works but as long as he keep is secret, that's what it will remain but that does not make it spiritual because calling it spiritual...Is completely senseless and gullible, and keeps our knowledge stagnant. If that is how u love to think, good for u.. but if u are open minded, u will really not think this way 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 9:07pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
frank317:At least you agree that they happen. What's your own explanation for the OP's story? |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by benzics(m): 9:10pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:So you didn't get the part where he said he didn't understand it? You are asking for an explanation just in case there is none, you'd then tag the event "spiritual"... oshe! 1 Like |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 9:20pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
benzics:People who understand it eg the healers have called it spiritual. You who admit to not understanding it insists that the people who understand it do not know what they understand because you possess a morbid fear of the word 'spiritual'. Who no come well among the two of us abeg? 1 Like |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by otemdomino: 9:24pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
winetapper:Op, do you know what they call 'werepe'? if your body gets in contact with it, you will nearly scratch yourself to the bone marrow, yet there isn't anything spiritual about it. They also suck snake poisons out of people, OP, yet it isn't spiritual or a proof of a god. God needs no proof. He is the UNIVERSE we all see(OMNIPRESENT). |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by obinna58(m): 9:28pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: What's your explanation for someone being able to communicate with another person thousands of miles away from, cos science explained possibilities and you were able to see clearly that magic wasn't involved. You lazy guys should focus more on research in order to upgrade the brain rather than channeling all energy on beliefs. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by benzics(m): 9:36pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:So I made an impossible computer hack, and then steal upto a 100billion once.. Of course people won't understand how I did it, so because they don't understand and I told them it was spiritual, so are they supposed to take my word for it? And mind you, we've given possible explanations to the "graphite removal" from his body.. How do something come out of your body without you feeling it and without it even containing blood? His healing might be psychological, cuz I remember once when I had a sharp head ache, I placed my hands on my head and said "God heal me" (I strongly believed), and the headache disappeared! All this happened because I believed! Beliefs can really go a long way in modifying our realities... |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 9:42pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
obinna58:We know how phones work. Tell me how this works. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by Ranchhoddas: 9:46pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
benzics:People hack computers all the time. It's a terrible analogy. The rest of your post is well... |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by frank317: 10:05pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: I can only suggest possible explanations but I may be wrong... But there is much I don't know. How ever I can't call it spiritual because that is another name for I don't know. People call things spiritual like it's an answer, but really it's not, it leave so many open ends. I will comfortably assume that there is a process the healer knows that I don't... I just lack knowledge in his process, that does not make it spiritual, calling for spiritual still leaves me in the same position. |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by obinna58(m): 10:05pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: This your question weak me though I once had your kind of thoughts |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by frank317: 10:14pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: They call it spiritual and leave open ended questions... That's how our forefathers called themselves spiritual and the white came and their wall crumbled. If they called it spiritual, how has it helped in understanding the situation. Here is the op who was healed looking for relevant possible explanations despite knowing it's spiritual... Do people ask such questions after going through even something as complications heart surgery? If we all accept there is a spiritual healing process... What more can we do with it? Why are those spiritual healers relegated in the rural areas...? How can we expand the knowledge to help humanity? Or must it remain secret? 1 Like |
Re: Seun And His Fellow Atheist, What's Your Say On This? by rosalieene(f): 10:15pm On Feb 11, 2017 |
HateU2:I guess u are a Yoruba girl so u don't know about the ideology of 'pins'. Meanwhile this is spiritual pin not physical. Just pray you don't have encounter with an evil person so would put pin on your body |
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