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Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by obembet(f): 8:46am On Feb 12, 2017
I still don't knw why many questions this churches with do the proper findings
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by BalogunIdowu(m): 8:46am On Feb 12, 2017
abi it was a revelation from God to make it expensive as bishop oyedepo said some times back
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by TWoods(m): 8:46am On Feb 12, 2017
Statsocial:
The underlining purpose for creating Church schools; This is very important, the creation of church schools isn’t to actually teach physics and chemistry, but to create a spiritual revolution. Take that spiritual revolution away from CU, then it is by no means different from Afebabalola university. Therefore, if you are a committed member of your church you are already a member of that movement. For instance I am not a living faith member, but by attending CU I have joined myself to the spiritual movement of the church.
Well, by this metric, we can conclude that church schools have turned out to be massive failures? In what way have they brought about a spiritual revolution in Nigeria? Are things any better than 30 years ago when all we had were government schools?
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by princejenks(m): 8:47am On Feb 12, 2017
op missed the point,whether tithes or donations,the money came mostly from the congregation so they should be considered in determining the tuition I.e they should be made to pay like one thirds the amount they would have charged non members rather than this token scholarship grants they hand out to some members whose wards attend such mission schools. Speaking of quality,with all the money being sunk into these private universities to build start of the art infrastructure,how come none of them is found in the top 1000 universities in the world? Why are they not driving inventions and innovations outside of the school environment,why is Nigeria not leading Africa in IT for example,with all that's being put in to provide world class teaching in these private universities?
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by konfused: 8:49am On Feb 12, 2017
TWoods:
Despite all the paper certificates, the Nigerian "graduate" is just on average quite ignorant about the world around him.
huh
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by tegak10: 8:50am On Feb 12, 2017
martineverest:
am i the only one that noticed that the op and the first 6 commenters are all working together or were paid to support the OP,so it look like he s making sense,foolishly?

obviously a sponsored post by RCCG or winners' member, trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Pls, OP,what do they do with tithes and offerrings,then?...where did they get money that was used for this massive projects from?

Do u realise that RCCG's revenue is far more than 12 states' IGR combined?.each of these states affect their indigenes' lives than RCCG,physically
please read the post before commenting... it saves u time energy and potential insults u may receive....
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Nobody: 8:50am On Feb 12, 2017
Statsocial:
Lalasticlala Myndd44
...these controversies.
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by tillaman(m): 8:51am On Feb 12, 2017
Ur point is kinda mute op, still no reason why the church uni should be that expensive, it's a church for heaven's sake
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by felaismyhero(m): 8:53am On Feb 12, 2017
Ireboya:
Christianity itself is a scam

scammers everywhere
pls bro,do u have proofs
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by martineverest(m): 8:59am On Feb 12, 2017
tegak10:
please read the post before commenting... it saves u time energy and potential insults u may receive....
i read it carefully and comprehensively
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Caseless: 8:59am On Feb 12, 2017
Trash!
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by justmenoni: 9:00am On Feb 12, 2017
I want to do

quote author=Fmdipo post=53636178]go and do get help to be able to afford the payment

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Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Orikinla1: 9:00am On Feb 12, 2017
OP, I give you A plus.
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by sKeetz(m): 9:02am On Feb 12, 2017
BlacSmit:



Oga. U're a thief! I've been on get help for d past one month n it hasn't paid me.
What do you achieve by lyinghuh undecided
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by melejo(m): 9:03am On Feb 12, 2017
Op God bless you
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Nobody: 9:04am On Feb 12, 2017
This writer is playing on our intelligence.

Tithe, offering and donations are all in the same category. They are God's money not meant for business but propagation of the gospel of Christ, keeping the house of God and taking care of the needy.

Why should people keep up donation for University projects when the church is charging huge fees. Make it affordable for the common man and see if God will not open the windows of heaven to provide for the cause.

Our mega church Pastors have failed to learn from the Bible they carry and preach.

Mathew chapter 25 has shown us the fate of our so called righteous Pastors and Men of God.

Let us consider what the bible says in Mathew 25: 37 - 46.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Our so called MOGs are not targeting the[b] least of these[/b]. They are not making education available and affordable for the least of these : the poor.

They benefitted from the tithe, offerings and donations made available by missionaries for schools and hospitals. Yet, when it is their own turn to make impact on the next generation which the poor makes the bulk, they have refused to educate the least of these.

The Writer has failed in his attempt to manipulate our thinking.

If church business is not lucrative enough to make educatoon affordable for the poor, Why is it lucrative enough to manage 2 - 5 private jets?

He says expensive universities isnt unique to church universities.... Should churches operate on the same wavelenght with profit making institutions?

Where he failed totally is his submission that thr purpose of setting up private universities is spiritual. He called it Spiritual revolution.

No it is not. This is a greedy revolution.
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by okekesaint(m): 9:10am On Feb 12, 2017
BUHARImyDOG:
Nice write-ups op, nobody is forcing anybody to attend church owned universities.
" even if na me be the last person to complete the money for uni project for my church, hmm them go come force me"

Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Azedplus(m): 9:18am On Feb 12, 2017
Going by your claims, then the school wouldn't have continued in existence. We all have engaged in one form of business or other. No business will make loss continously as u claim and still exist except nonprofit making organizations ( though all businesses have it's peak and off-peak periods ) . Even businesses that breakeven cant last as long. Your writeup is based on assumptions, sorry, that's not how we determine profitability of a venture, You are still an undergraduate ( no offense ) ,as such you see it from one angle( as we are told ) but it's different out here ( as was told and as it is ). Let the schools board come out to make the claims, then I will believe you
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by luzhioo(m): 9:30am On Feb 12, 2017
BUHARImyDOG:
Nice write-ups op, nobody is forcing anybody to attend church owned universities.
u ar a big fool for stating such word .... Wen person come up with reasonable stuff fool like will come up with religion propaganda grin
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by iguita:
Worth the way the OP wrote, I knew (s)he was an insider. People just talk ignorantly but I am happy with your conservative analysis. Despite not making money from the venture, the man went on to build another in Kwara, why? Because he wants to raise a new crop of leaders. Has he been perfect? NO. Successful? 110%
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by iguita: 9:35am On Feb 12, 2017
But the OP just did a simple analysis that shows that the school is been run at a deficit. Is that not proof enough that the fees are already subsidized?
PietraK:
This writer is playing on our intelligence.

Tithe, offering and donations are all in the same category. They are God's money not meant for business but propagation of the gospel of Christ, keeping the house of God and taking care of the needy.

Why should people keep up donation for University projects when the church is charging huge fees. Make it affordable for the common man and see if God will not open the windows of heaven to provide for the cause.

Our mega church Pastors have failed to learn from the Bible they carry and preach.

Mathew chapter 25 has shown us the fate of our so called righteous Pastors and Men of God.

Let us consider what the bible says in Mathew 25: 37 - 46.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Our so called MOGs are not targeting the[b] least of these[/b]. They are not making education available and affordable for the least of these : the poor.

They benefitted from the tithe, offerings and donations made available by missionaries for schools and hospitals. Yet, when it is their own turn to make impact on the next generation which the poor makes the bulk, they have refused to educate the least of these.

The Writer has failed in his attempt to manipulate our thinking.

If church business is not lucrative enough to make educatoon affordable for the poor, Why is it lucrative enough to manage 2 - 5 private jets?

He says expensive universities isnt unique to church universities.... Should churches operate on the same wavelenght with profit making institutions?

Where he failed totally is his submission that thr purpose of setting up private universities is spiritual. He called it Spiritual revolution.

No it is not. This is a greedy revolution.
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by eyinjuege: 9:35am On Feb 12, 2017
princejenks:
op missed the point,whether tithes or donations,the money came mostly from the congregation so they should be considered in determining the tuition I.e they should be made to pay like one thirds the amount they would have charged non members rather than this token scholarship grants they hand out to some members whose wards attend such mission schools. Speaking of quality,with all the money being sunk into these private universities to build start of the art infrastructure,how come none of them is found in the top 1000 universities in the world? Why are they not driving inventions and innovations outside of the school environment,why is Nigeria not leading Africa in IT for example,with all that's being put in to provide world class teaching in these private universities?
Let us be fair. The unis ranking top 1000 in the world have all being there for decades, or even 100s of years.
The faith based schools in Nigeria just started. Non is up to 20years old. They have come a long way, and I'm proud of some specific ones who have proved themselves that they have a good mgt team in place, and can only get better.
Let us also be honest with ourselves, tithes and offerings cannot sustain these schools. How many indigent people really pay the tithes and offering? Someone that has no money to even feed, and you're talking of tithes and offering? Is it not the money you have that you will put down?
I know indigent people who have gone to CU, on scholarships. Because they are indigent, and also deserving. Deserving in the sense that they have a good academic record. That's the way scholarships should be given anyway.
I know a lot of churches that verify the help they give through the home fellowship system. If you're not an active member of the home fellowship, then you're not considered a true member. The home fellowship is such that its a small gathering of members usually as small as 5-20, that come to worship together and can even raise help amongst themselves. If that's not possible, and you need help, your home cell fellowship leader can verify you with the church, that you've been an active member for long.
Its a better system, as a lot of people can get lost in the crowd of the main church.
Many don't realise this. The church leaders aren't clairvoyant. If you need help, or envisage you may need help in the future look for your church's home cell fellowship around you and start being active there now. Let them know you. That's one of the easiest ways they use in knowing their members.
I know this because I've observed closely, from afar how some of these systems work.
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Mandesz(m): 9:42am On Feb 12, 2017
babyfaceafrica:
But this is not how Catholic ran churches way back then.....its too expensive...well na dem sabi
pls tell us how Catholic ran Church then. are we talking of church service or church university? stop beating about d bush. what's spectacular abt Catholic?
no way u can establish a university with a view to making profit..
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Nobody: 9:45am On Feb 12, 2017
cchaiii crawford my church uni grin grin grin
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Lordkratus(m):
your write up was going nicely until you started throwing figures. point of correction my friend the 400million wage bill is per annum not per month. let me explain it is well know that the average salary of a private uni lecturer is about 300thousand after combining both academic and non academic staff and those university don't have up to 100 working staff strength because it is government owned universities that have that number of staff in fact let's even give them 120 staffs multiplied by the average salary gives you 36million monthly. multiply that by 12 and you get the right figure of an average yearly salary of a private university. note that the 300thousand is far above the average salary but for the sake of parity I chose that and the staff strength is as high as that. in the year 2012 Uniben one of the biggest university in the country in terms of staff and facility declared annual staff salary for both academic and non academic staff to be at 800 million and this is a school with two campuses and staff strength combined ranging over 300.if you day their month salary is 400 million the implication is they have an average of 800 staff that they pay averagely 500k each or 400 staff that they pay one million each lol, we all know the salary structure of private universities especially church owned besides I have a brother lecturing in convenant uni. I know that monthly wage bill is not only impossible but unimaginable. so if the number of student is actually correct that you stated for the private university covenant then they are making a huge load of cash in profit from it. thanks
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by doctor306(m):
On my own opinion I think Church is d biggest fraud so far
It is ment for just d rich
If schools were built with donations wat of d private jets dey fly
And what do they use all d offerings tithe an also thangss giving for


Wat is my business I will just seat down and listen to my fela track
Cus we Africans have our own tradition b4 they bring their money making organization
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Fmdipo(m): 10:13am On Feb 12, 2017
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Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by Fmdipo(m): 10:20am On Feb 12, 2017
BlacSmit:



Oga. U're a thief! I've been on get help for d past one month n it hasn't paid me.
Ode! upload the screenshot of your account if you are truly on GH. you are not ready to succeed and you want to block people that want to succeed.
I have been on GH since October last year and I'm collecting money every weeks. I still received payment last night, I can show you the proof
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by DrayZee: 10:23am On Feb 12, 2017
CecyAdrian:
Them Don come to defend their yahoo yahoo business ooooo cheesy
Did you even bother to read the points there?

If it gives so much profit as you say, why don't you invest in one?
Re: Why Church Universities Are Expensive by DrayZee: 10:28am On Feb 12, 2017
dadaic:
Well, I have only this to say here. If Pastor Oyedepo wasn't making profit from the CU university, he wouldn't venture into having 2 other schools. If a business is not making profit, they close down. So you mean to tell me the VC likes spending his money to create schools, get fees paid at such rates, create other schools and loose money? Lol..that's ridiculous.

Meanwhile, all private universities do not have a fixed price, you see some lower than the other, they pay the academic and non academic staffs, they run electricity too, and of course still make profit from this. Some of their pastors who have kids do not have to pay their fees completely, they pay a certain amount. So if he doesn't make profit, he can as well make a statement and say all the pastor's who have kids must pay the fees completely like the others who aren't pastors. Abeg oga go and get your facts right.
Hmm... Dude calm down.
Oyedepo isn't doing this for profit. If you bothered to calculate everything,you'd understand that he actually doesn't make profits from them.
It is in a quest to increase the quality of education in Nigeria that he built those schools.
No matter where you go, you'll never find a cheap private university with good standards like the ones Oyedepo has.

And what makes you think the pastors don't pay their children's fees completely. Did you just pull this outta yer ass?
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