Standing5:
The power example is one good example. Stop saying the backwardness of the north doesn't affect what the south does.

you, just like the others, have not responded to the questions raised by that poster you quoted. Y'all just kept dancing around his post like Fela dancers, LMAO.

Atiku2019
And SW/SE/SS will still vote him in

kabrud:


Are u also aware that one of the largest power generating stations is located in the north? I hope u know the power stations in the north are fully sufficient for the north alone? Or are u telling me that kainji, shiroro, mambila and jebba hydroelectric power stations can't provide 24hr supply to the north even at low output? Boy, the north is not holding u back for anything. Stop blaming the north for ur problems. The north has its peculiar problems affecting it but stop all these rubbish about the north holding u back bla bla bla.
U make noise about how the north is poor due to this and that, then brag about how u are rich in the south because of ur education bla bla bla, only for u to turn again and say the north is still holding u back, how do u reconcile this very illogical self contradictory claims?
Left for u lots, the northerners should not even occupy any position in this country so that u have more reasons to talk more about poverty in the north. Up till now, the north has not filled its positions in the civil service and even some of its slots are still filled by these southerners who claim north thereby occupying northern slots and it still remains on records that way. Imagine, Chinedu, "from Kebbi State" or Akpan "from Kaduna State", how? This is as funny as Tanko "from Imo state". Very funny but that is how it looks. About 95% of fed govt agencies in the south are occupied by the southerners but the same southerners compete favourably with northerners in northern based fed govt agencies. Some of these media propaganda are gradually opening our eyes to many things we are being deprived in this country and by God grace, proper enquiries will be conducted to set some of these things right, just a matter of time.
Meanwhile, stop blaming the north for ur problems.

Stop talking trash if you have nothing to say. I don't know where to start educating ur ignorant äss. Are you saying the North needs less power than the south or that you guys av 24hr supply? You think I av not been to the north? You are obviously a kid.

Ioannes:


what power example? You'll have to be clearer here and stop being vague. I'll like you to expatiate on your points.

Research the barth nnaji IPP pls.

The North is not dragging us backward in any way. Our Senators and the gullible masses are.

Secondly, stop generalizing. There are a couple of Northeners in diaspora doing great things. For example, the designer of one of the brands of Mercedez benz and Chrysler is from Sokoto.

Try to be objective.

Standing5:
Stop talking trash if you have nothing to say. I don't know where to start educating ur ignorant äss. Are you saying the North needs less power than the south or that you guys av 24hr supply? You think I av not been to the north? You are obviously a kid.

Boy, relax. It is quite obvious u have issues with comprehension, now let me break it a bit further. The power from the power stations in the north is capable of supplying the north 24hr. But the problem is that such power is not consumed in the north alone and other thermal stations like egbim, sapele etc are merely complementary but the bulk of the power comes from hydro stations. Now, assuming the south is cut off, the available power is sufficient for the north alone.
If this is too difficult for you to understand, then I suggest u enrol for basic English class, cos I can't help.
Now, do u know why u are trying to hide behind aggression? Ur argument lacks any reasonable substance and the only way out is to be on the offensive, yet these are the people that will jump at the slightest argument and start shouting about education upandan. Education is not about bragging, it is actually about politeness, diplomacy, knowledge, getting what u want from the society, respect for others etc.
Boy, go and address ur problems and stop placing them at the doorsteps of the north cos the north did not in anyway stops u from applying ur 'education' to ur advantage. With meagre allocations to northern states, capital projects are still being executed while ur 'educated' governors with fat allocations can't even pay salaries despite fed govt bailout, yet the north is the problem.

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Guy the North is the problem of Nigeria

1. They have rule Nigeria for the past 38 years in 50 years time

Military rule mostly, where nobody is accountable to anybody. Since 1999 Southerners have been ruling majorly, what has changed in your region? Nothing

2. Plunge Nigeria always into religious fighting and killings,Sunni killing Shiite with aid of government, Muslims always killing Christians in the north at any little provocation with government abating it.

This still doesn't explain the lack of tangible development in your southern regions

3.Loot Nigeria treasury for the past 40years they are in power

Oh yeah! Guess who has been looting money meant for the development of your state since 1999! Guess who's senators have been collecting jumbo pay despite doing next to nothing in the national assembly!
Guess who's state houses of assembly have been in comatose and have become and ordinary rubber stamp for their governors!

4.Rule Nigeria with divide and rule system as Buhari is doing now.

Utter conjecture!

5.See theirselves as born to rule Nigeria, if southerner become president they will start bombing everywhere to take power back.

Beer parlor tale. Obasanjo became president they did not bomb anywhere, Jonathan became president they did not bomb anywhere. and they definitely did NOT take power back.

I wish that the North have too much oil like Saudi Arabia so that they can stay on their own and practice sharia,stop western education as they like,ban Christians from entering their country if they like.

Trust me when I tell you that the North isn't your problem at all. There's a saying in Yoruba, "kokoro t'on jefo, ara efo lowa"

Look closer home to the source of your problems in your region. You can thank me later.

Standing5:
Research the barth nnaji IPP pls.

So I read an article on that which detailed the progress made in trying to supply power to Aba and making it an industrial hub in Nigeria, which I think is a laudable project.

But I also read that despite the agreements with the federal government, the privatization of PHCN caught up with the project and the progress in Aba was sold to other groups or thereabout.

Well, Jonathan was in power when all these happened in 2014/15 so I'm not sure how this concerns the North unless I'm missing something which you might want to point out.

cheruv:

Not only you... I always shake my head when I see these one Nigeria falling stupidly for their patriotic cries,and these are people who won't waste time in hacking you down whenever they shout الله أكبر

It's very unfortunate, but that's done plain truth. Northern region needs to up their educational drive so that they can reason like 21st century humans.

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Firstly, You are in no position to question what our governors do with our own wealth. Your own governors who depend on our oil revenue, what have they done for you?

The last time I came across this kind of logic was when I was tutoring primary school pupils during my NYSC year in Mikang, Plateau state. "Let's all gather and blame the North but thou shall not point accusing fingers at our own". Great logic indeed.

The northern elite control over 70% of the oil blocs in the south...how has it bettered the lives of your northern almajiris?

Your governors have been collecting oil derivatives, 30% if I'm not mistaken for the last 16 years, yet your area still looks like the pissing pot of the continent. Have you bothered to ask your leaders how they spend your money? No. You're being remote controlled by your leaders to always see the North as your problem.

Do you know how the south would have been if not for the parasitic north sharing in its wealth while contributing ZERO?

Yes I know how the south would have been. Probably worse than the pisspot it already is. In fact by now I'm sure your area would have been a war zone sef.

per the bolded, don't you hear everyday stories of how Fulani herdsmen raid and kill people in Enugu, Delta ??

Yes I do. It's quite unfortunate and I hope that the herdsmen perpetrating this evil are all caught and beheaded.

Dude you really wanna talk about education? For every southerner that fails any course or subject in school, 10,000 fail in the north. What states have the highest pass rates in WAEC/NECO in Nigeria? Obviously southern states.

I'm wondering how you passed NECO because obviously you can't read and comprehend. Nobody is doing comparison here. If the North is illiterate how does that affect the educational standard of the south?

Why does the north oppose True Federalism? Why does the north oppose secession? It is visible to the blind and audible to the deaf that the north is the problem of Nigeria.

@bolded, that's the only reasonable and on-point argument you've made so far in all your submissions. But it's inaccurate still. Let me help you rephrase. "Why do the Northern ELITE oppose true federalism".

Whoever opposes true federalism is an enemy of this nation and surely is pulling us backwards indeed. If I give you reasons why they oppose it, it would only be on conjecture and might be inaccurate.

Are they scared that there will be no more oil money?
Do they think this would make for a more powerful southern region?
Do they think that this would widen the gap between the development of the south and the north?

Maybe, but I won't pretend I know the full answers to that.

Question is, what can we do about that, because I assure you, the average northerner just like the average southerner just wants to make a living so as to be able to feed his wife and kids.

So, hating him and his ilk isn't the answer to our problems but coming together to fight the cabal made up of Nigerians from the North, South, East and West who are holding Nigeria in a stranglehold.

Ioannes:


So I read an article on that which detailed the progress made in trying to supply power to Aba and making it an industrial hub in Nigeria, which I think is a laudable project.

But I also read that despite the agreements with the federal government, the privatization of PHCN caught up with the project and the progress in Aba was sold to other groups or thereabout.

Well, Jonathan was in power when all these happened in 2014/15 so I'm not sure how this concerns the North unless I'm missing something which you might want to point out.

The whole thing boils down to a law that mandates power generation that's beyond certain threshold to be pumped into the National Grid. Once the power is gone into the National grid, the gencos can't dictate where the power is distributed to. This particular rule means what Nnaji has generated with the intention of selling to his neighbor in Aba and environs, must be relinguished or sold to the controllers( northerners by reason of federal character in agencies like TCN, NERB ) of the national grid. The north have generally opposed the ammendment of the law that forces large volume of power to be distributed via the National Grid because it favours them in the sense that it force the south to carry them along in their electrification drive. This law has forced Delta, Rivers and Lagos to put a stop to IPPs in the past cos any power they generate will 99.9% likely not be sold back to them or their indigenes. Get it ?
The popular alternative to this arrangement of pumping IPP energy into the grid is an off-grid arrangement.

kabrud:


Boy, relax. It is quite obvious u have issues with comprehension, now let me break it a bit further. The power from the power stations in the north is capable of supplying the north 24hr. But the problem is that such power is not consumed in the north alone and other thermal stations like egbim, sapele etc are merely complementary but the bulk of the power comes from hydro stations. Now, assuming the south is cut off, the available power is sufficient for the north alone.
If this is too difficult for you to understand, then I suggest u enrol for basic English class, cos I can't help.
Now, do u know why u are trying to hide behind aggression? Ur argument lacks any reasonable substance and the only way out is to be on the offensive, yet these are the people that will jump at the slightest argument and start shouting about education upandan. Education is not about bragging, it is actually about politeness, diplomacy, knowledge, getting what u want from the society, respect for others etc.
Boy, go and address ur problems and stop placing them at the doorsteps of the north cos the north did not in anyway stops u from applying ur 'education' to ur advantage. With meagre allocations to northern states, capital projects are still being executed while ur 'educated' governors with fat allocations can't even pay salaries despite fed govt bailout, yet the north is the problem.

Stop exergerating facts to win argument.
The power plants in the north can't handle Abuja, Jos and Kaduna alone if the south is cut off. If you follow my other posts here you will gain some insight. It may interest u to kno dat Lagos, Delta, and Rivers dropped ideas of independent power plants IPPs in the past cos what they generated ends up in other region(the north).

Standing5:
The whole thing boils down to a law that mandates power generation that's beyond certain threshold to be pumped into the National Grid. Once the power is gone into the National grid, the gencos can't dictate where the power is distributed to. This particular rule means what Nnaji has generated with the intention of selling to his neighbor in Aba and environs, must be relinguished or sold to the controllers( northerners by reason of federal character in agencies like TCN, NERB ) of the national grid. The north have generally opposed the ammendment of the law that forces large volume of power to be distributed via the National Grid because it favours them in the sense that it force the south to carry them along in their electrification drive. This law has forced Delta, Rivers and Lagos to put a stop to IPPs in the past cos any power they generate will 99.9% likely not be sold back to them or their indigenes. Get it ?
The popular alternative to this arrangement of pumping IPP energy into the grid is an off-grid arrangement.

can you point me in the right direction where i can educate myself on this. I'd like to read this myself from a reliable source. I don't want to take your word for it cos off your bias. I'm sure you understand.

obongitiad:
The North is not dragging us backward in any way. Our Senators and the gullible masses are.

Secondly, stop generalizing. There are a couple of Northeners in diaspora doing great things. For example, the designer of one of the brands of Mercedez benz and Chrysler is from Sokoto.

Try to be objective.

Is that the only person the north can boast of out of a population of close to 70million people. There is a problem in the north and it needs to be tackled

Ioannes:


can you point me in the right direction where i can educate myself on this. I'd like to read this myself from a reliable source. I don't want to take your word for it cos off your bias. I'm sure you understand.

I am on mobile oh n can't google them now. Try googling more about "Lagos IPP under Fashola's rule" and Nnaji power project more. Especially the law i talked about

Nukualofa:
The north today has become the Pharaoh that doesn't want other regions to go on a quest of development. The north wants the south to remain backward like their peers in Chad and Niger that's why they fused religion into every facet of their life.

Today, which northerner can we point out that'saking Nigeria proud in the diaspora? None. They are enjoying the resources of the South and they made sure their elites subjugate their masses with religion whivh mkes them hordes of zombies.


Any country that wants progress invest in education but the north has made sure that education is denied thee girl child and also that the less privilege are denied western education.


The north should stop dragging us backward with their non challant attitude



#JustAngryWithTheNorth

mtsweee you are the type who dont like to see Nigeria moving forward with your tribalism and zonalism ....and for the record it was with the help of north you got the cruid oil you are bragging about...without north south is nothing...jst go and ask those that know the real nigeria and stop trying to divide nigeria nonsense

nazeefsco:
mtsweee you are the type who dont like to see Nigeria moving forward with your tribalism and zonalism ....and for the record it was with the help of north you got the cruid oil you are bragging about...without north south is nothing...jst go and ask those that know the real nigeria and stop trying to divide nigeria nonsense

stop talking like someone that thinks Google is in mercury. The north has been the parasite of Nigeria that's why they are scared of true federalism

nazeefsco:
mtsweee you are the type who dont like to see Nigeria moving forward with your tribalism and zonalism ....and for the record it was with the help of north you got the cruid oil you are bragging about...without north south is nothing...jst go and ask those that know the real nigeria and stop trying to divide nigeria nonsense

stop talking like someone that thinks Google is in mercury. The north has been the parasite of Nigeria that's why they are scared of true federalism.

I always wonder how the lie came into existence that the north produces more food than the rest of the country.

How can a semi desert barren region produce more food than other parts of the country which enjoy regular rainfall and have more fertile soil.

The North is backward, useless and primitive. The only thing they produce in abundance is beggars and terrorists.

Go to any major city in this country and I tell you, 95% of the beggars on the streets are northerners.

They're just a very backwards lot.

Nukualofa:
stop talking like someone that thinks Google is in mercury. The north has been the parasite of Nigeria that's why they are scared of true federalism.

scared?? Did you even hear your self??

Ioannes:


can you point me in the right direction where i can educate myself on this. I'd like to read this myself from a reliable source. I don't want to take your word for it cos off your bias. I'm sure you understand.

One here:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/lagos-almost-self-sufficient-power-generation-fashola/


Another one that's very informative:
https://www.nairaland.com/2308462/buhari-govt-eyeing-lagos-template


This one points out why Fashola couldn't distribute power within Lagos, very informative too :
http://smooth981.fm/why-we-cant-distribute-electricity-to-lagos-residents-fashola/

Nukualofa:
Is that the only person the north can boast of out of a population of close to 70million people. There is a problem in the north and it needs to be tackled

Initially you said there was no single person, now you say is that the only person ni? Na wa for you oh.

Abeg leave them alone and focus on improving your region.

God bless you

God bless you for your wisdom. It is becos of few folks like you I have hope that everybody cannot be deluded or stupid.

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Nigerian politics have been dominated by the North for decades. You would think that since they've had all that political dominance for decades, they would use their influence to develop their region. The South is not perfect either but the difference is clear. Oh and why are Kwara, Kogi, and Benue states in the North? The British don't make the rules anymore, we have Nigeria and we should have administrative regions that reflect the people. Abeg, this isn't to insult the North, most of our politicians regardless of where they come from are corrupt and they couldn't care less for the people.

Nukualofa:
stop talking like someone that thinks Google is in mercury. The north has been the parasite of Nigeria that's why they are scared of true federalism.

God bless you for telling the truth.

Standing5:
Stop exergerating facts to win argument.
The power plants in the north can't handle Abuja, Jos and Kaduna alone if the south is cut off. If you follow my other posts here you will gain some insight. It may interest u to kno dat Lagos, Delta, and Rivers dropped ideas of independent power plants IPPs in the past cos what they generated ends up in other region(the north).

Choi, see contradiction. So the north has suddenly become more industrialised requiring more power than the south? So, the domestic power consumption of the 'poor' northerners is now higher than that of the 'rich' Southerners. So the "almajiris in the north" now require more power than "the hardworking industrialists in the south"? I just wonder how some of u will lie blatantly, then go to bed and sleep comfortably. How for God's sake will LAGOS, RIVERS, AND DELTA STATES back off from power generation because NORTH WILL CONSUME MUCH OF THE GENERATED POWER?
Pls, how are u comfortable with statement like this?
Ur body no dey do u one kind?
As I have said, left for u lots, nothing should go to the north, even the electricity it actively contributes in its generation.
Hehehe, the fact remains that u can only make those senseless and illogical noise on social media cos even ur representatives at the fed level dare not come up with outright trash like this fit only for trash can. Now u are becoming too annoying and as such, I will appreciate if u stop coming close to my mention. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation, bye.

blackfase:
The real truth, @op. I scream this fact every night and day. Its almost like a curse having these people as part of your country when their thoughts, ways, beliefs are at best retrogressive and at worst of no use.

As to those ones yelling SW this and that, as a SWtener, the real ones with functional minds knows aligning with these people of parallel intelligence is of no good, that the major issue of sellout or patronage is by the so called acursed and useless "alatenuje leaders", and its not exclusive to the SW. As we speak we have political sellouts in the SE too that has disavowed Biaxxx, so get your facts right before drowning in ignorance and unnecessary bile!

You're very right! There will always be that fifth columnist in every ethnic group.
@Op...You have written nothing but the real fucccking truth...
As this guy wrote, the reasonable people like us from the SW do not see these scumbags from the north as allies. What business does light have with darkness? The only supposedly SW people here supporting them have only one thing in common with these people. Your guess is as good as mine - RELIGION. Their religion is so backward, synonymous to violence. Yet they call it the region of piss.

kabrud:


Are u also aware that one of the largest power generating stations is located in the north? I hope u know the power stations in the north are fully sufficient for the north alone? Or are u telling me that kainji, shiroro, mambila and jebba hydroelectric power stations can't provide 24hr supply to the north even at low output? Boy, the north is not holding u back for anything. Stop blaming the north for ur problems. The north has its peculiar problems affecting it but stop all these rubbish about the north holding u back bla bla bla.
U make noise about how the north is poor due to this and that, then brag about how u are rich in the south because of ur education bla bla bla, only for u to turn again and say the north is still holding u back, how do u reconcile this very illogical self contradictory claims?
Left for u lots, the northerners should not even occupy any position in this country so that u have more reasons to talk more about poverty in the north. Up till now, the north has not filled its positions in the civil service and even some of its slots are still filled by these southerners who claim north thereby occupying northern slots and it still remains on records that way. Imagine, Chinedu, "from Kebbi State" or Akpan "from Kaduna State", how? This is as funny as Tanko "from Imo state". Very funny but that is how it looks. About 95% of fed govt agencies in the south are occupied by the southerners but the same southerners compete favourably with northerners in northern based fed govt agencies. Some of these media propaganda are gradually opening our eyes to many things we are being deprived in this country and by God grace, proper enquiries will be conducted to set some of these things right, just a matter of time.
Meanwhile, stop blaming the north for ur problems.

Then support true federalism...Why are you scared?

kabrud:


Choi, see contradiction. So the north has suddenly become more industrialised requiring more power than the south? So, the domestic power consumption of the 'poor' northerners is now higher than that of the 'rich' Southerners. So the "almajiris in the north" now require more power than "the hardworking industrialists in the south"? I just wonder how some of u will lie blatantly, then go to bed and sleep comfortably. How for God's sake will LAGOS, RIVERS, AND DELTA STATES back off from power generation because NORTH WILL CONSUME MUCH OF THE GENERATED POWER?
Pls, how are u comfortable with statement like this?
Ur body no dey do u one kind?
As I have said, left for u lots, nothing should go to the north, even the electricity it actively contributes in its generation.
Hehehe, the fact remains that u can only make those senseless and illogical noise on social media cos even ur representatives at the fed level dare not come up with outright trash like this fit only for trash can. Now u are becoming too annoying and as such, I will appreciate if u stop coming close to my mention. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation, bye.

You clearly lack understanding of how power works and have a bias towards those you hate. Where did I say half of those trash u typed?

ColonelDrake:

Then support true federalism...Why are you scared?

Thank you. That dude's case na wa. He thinks the presense of power plants up north equates to self sufficiency.

What a stupid thread to wake up to. I need to go back to sleep, I don't want a start my weekend on a hateful note.

Standing5:
[s]You clearly lack understanding of how power works and have a bias towards those you hate. Where did I say half of those trash u typed[/s]?

U did not write it out here but it is implied, otherwise what exactly do u mean by "the power they generate will end up in other regions (north)"? Or are u confused?