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Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Goodnuel: 12:16pm On Feb 21, 2017
Am loving the arguments... Keep em coming. smiley
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by ChristineC: 1:49pm On Feb 21, 2017
lonelydora:
This thread is not for children cars.
Toyota is children car huh? I just dey laff
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Yorobastard(m): 2:10pm On Feb 21, 2017
HellRaiXer:
Ok, I don't know much about the Mercedes F class and mini cooper so I won't attempt to pretend in an online forum I do. But if those Mercedes you just mentioned aren't the S, E and C classes and their various variants and subbrands then they are just cars with Mercedes badges on them.

That was before, bro. It's old news now. Mercedes will dust the taillights outta BMW and have been doing so for the past couple years. Even Audi have overtaken BMW in speed and manoeuvrability.


You're partly right. But you see, Mercedes built stately cars that are timeléss in design and not loud and noisy designs like Honda accord 2003, Nissan Infinity/Murano and the BMW X6 whose designs wear out fast and tell the era they were produced.

Check out the C class 2000 model, E class 2001 model and the S class 2004 models, they are so relevant today when most designs of other cars have failed.

Mercedes remains the only brand that gives you timelessness, class, speed, comfort and prestige in a classy way.

Only Rolls-Royce, Bentley and Range Rover (to an extent) does this.
Firstly the F class is addressing the ugly bit of Mercedes and the Mini Cooper is a BMW product while the smart is Mercedes product which obviously when compared by you will choose the Cooper no doubt....

I respect the C, E, S class variants they are unique in their own way but newer products of Mercedes-Benz has a little touch of BMW

I don't really know about the new Mercedes-Benz horsepower and how long it takes to get 0-100m/h but like you said.....Audi is a Beast.....I give it to them.

Every atom of truth in your last paragraph but you forget to add Safety....Mercedes is one of cars if not the best in the world with the Best Safety control and Mechanics....I give it to them but all na money
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Clinton32(m): 2:35pm On Feb 21, 2017
Yes I concourse, you can never compare Toyota to Honda, Toyota is Damn reliable and durable than Honda.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by HellRaiXer: 2:39pm On Feb 21, 2017
Yorobastard:
Firstly the F class is addressing the ugly bit of Mercedes and the Mini Cooper is a BMW product while the smart is Mercedes product which obviously when compared by you will choose the Cooper no doubt....

I respect the C, E, S class variants they are unique in their own way but newer products of Mercedes-Benz has a little touch of BMW

I don't really know about the new Mercedes-Benz horsepower and how long it takes to get 0-100m/h but like you said.....Audi is a Beast.....I give it to them.

Every atom of truth in your last paragraph but you forget to add Safety....Mercedes is one of cars if not the best in the world with the Best Safety control and Mechanics....I give it to them but all na money
Yes, I have always liked the BMW exterior while Mercedes interior kills me. BMW is one of my dream ride along with Mercedes but it seems our mechanics understand Benz more.

It's surprising Audi which has been copying BMW seems to be doing better now as per rounding off bends.

Mercedes has greatly improved with horsepower and speed. Although they have always been doing better but latest engine specs and simulated test results are breathtaking. Especially as they are returning back to l6 jettisoning the V6 rubbish.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by HellRaiXer: 2:42pm On Feb 21, 2017
ChristineC:
Toyota is children car huh? I just dey laff
Of course Toyota na mass production. Only in Nigeria does Toyota receive so much false hype.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by ChristineC: 2:47pm On Feb 21, 2017
HellRaiXer:
Of course Toyota na mass production. Only in Nigeria does Toyota receive so much false hype.
only in Nigeria right? tell that to people who don't travel. maybe you should use a "proper" Toyota first.

For your info, some German model-year vehicles are poor as well. For example the Mercedez ML till around 2006 was total dross. Ask anyone who used one and get testimony.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by HellRaiXer: 3:14pm On Feb 21, 2017
ChristineC:
only in Nigeria right? tell that to people who don't travel. maybe you should use a "proper" Toyota first.

For your info, some German model-year vehicles are poor as well. For example the Mercedez ML till around 2006 was total dross. Ask anyone who used one and get testimony.
Use a proper Toyota? Hahahaha. Every imp has ridden or have been driven by the best car Toyota has produced! It's like Tecno phones, they are all over the place and everyone has them or has someone who does. Mass products without inspiration!

Who brags with a crappy car like Toyota or Honda except Nigerians who know next to nothing about cars?

The 2006 Mercedes ml is the second generation ml and it's fine. I think you mean the 1st generation ml which was produced in the US in a brand new plant that wasn't up to standard but it still trumped all Toyota Jeep of that era.

You don't know about cars.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by elchymo: 3:31pm On Feb 21, 2017
My comment is with regards to the BMW X6 M and Mercedes Benz GLE 63s coupe. Having driven both cars, I must say you can't have all features to perfection.
For the mercedes, the interior and comfort of the driver is superior to the BMW, it also has way more sound insulation making u feel as if u are in an aeroplane. BMW is kinda lagging behind in this department and should work to improve that.
For the BMW, handling, performance, sportiness, cornering speeds are the advantages it has over the mercedes. Infact mercedes is nowhere near the BMW when it comes to these features. Maybe it could be that it's because bmw have been in the business of producing this particular design of SUV for a while before mercedes came into the picture, but whichever be the case mercedes has catching up to do in these departments.
Both cars are very lovely, and again it's a healthy competition between both cars which means we consumers will always get to enjoy their improved inventions. smiley
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by ChristineC: 3:41pm On Feb 21, 2017
HellRaiXer:
Use a proper Toyota? Hahahaha. Every imp has ridden or have been driven by the best car Toyota has produced! It's like Tecno phones, they are all over the place and everyone has them or has someone who does. Mass products without inspiration!

Who brags with a crappy car like Toyota or Honda except Nigerians who know next to nothing about cars?

The 2006 Mercedes ml is the second generation ml and it's fine. I think you mean the 1st generation ml which was produced in the US in a brand new plant that wasn't up to standard but it still trumped all Toyota Jeep of that era.

You don't know about cars.
the ML of that era cannot hold its own, it is being sold for pittance and nobody still care. A 1999 4Runner will be bought faster than that pre 2006 ML. Ask around my friend. But then...
That's your view and there's no point bragging, but I have driven German, French, American, Japanese and Korean. The day to day production vehicles are not that much different. You'd never catch an American or a Brit slagging off a Toyota despite their chain of vehicle companies, how much less us? Abeg no make me laugh.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Timelezz: 4:27pm On Feb 21, 2017
ChristineC:
the ML of that era cannot hold its own, it is being sold for pittance and nobody still care. A 1999 4Runner will be bought faster than that pre 2006 ML. Ask around my friend. But then...
That's your view and there's no point bragging, but I have driven German, French, American, Japanese and Korean. The day to day production vehicles are not that much different. You'd never catch an American or a Brit slagging off a Toyota despite their chain of vehicle companies, how much less us? Abeg no make me laugh.
Bros, Toyota has fast resell capabilities no one argues that! Is that how you grade cars? The 2001 4runner has a crappy carpenter's interior, poor handling and a 1983 Mercedes 190E will out run it.

Yes, Americans blasts Toyota alot less than they blast h Honda.

If after claiming you drove all the cars you mentioned and still say they aren't much difference, then I will say you are either a liar or your perception capabilities are greatly flawed.


Pleeaaaase, after driving any Japanese, the first feeling you get when you drive a European car especially Mercedes or BMW is more road-feel, a granite feeling and a sense of total control of the vehicle.

In Japanese, you experience loss of road-feel especially when on speed, an isolation of the tarmac and poor cornering and less in control when driving in high speeds more especially if you had driven a Benz or BMW.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by ChristineC: 5:10pm On Feb 21, 2017
Timelezz:
Bros, Toyota has fast resell capabilities no one argues that! Is that how you grade cars? The 2001 4runner has a crappy carpenter's interior, poor handling and a 1983 Mercedes 190E will out run it.

Yes, Americans blasts Toyota alot less than they blast h Honda.

If after claiming you drove all the cars you mentioned and still say they aren't much difference, then I will say you are either a liar or your perception capabilities are greatly flawed.


Pleeaaaase, after driving any Japanese, the first feeling you get when you drive a European car especially Mercedes or BMW is more road-feel, a granite feeling and a sense of total control of the vehicle.

In Japanese, you experience loss of road-feel especially when on speed, an isolation of the tarmac and poor cornering and less in control when driving in high speeds more especially if you had driven a Benz or BMW.
If these cars have all the hullaballoo and still sits in a dealer shop with lesser resale value % from initial offering cost than their Toyota counterparts then that should tell you that the conventional day to day user demand practicability, not a hell load of tosh crammed in with nothing standing out.

Vehicle manufacturing are into various segments, those that want speed and manoeuvring index know where to look likewise those that want haulage capabilities or just a family sedan. For Toyota to still have a good number of representation in these segments even in countries with credible auto plants should give you a solid picture.
The Land Cruiser and the LX compete favourably with any other high-end luxury SUV in their class.
The Tacoma/Hilux do the same.
The 4Runner do the same.

If you wish to stretch it we can dig up comparable stats from credible websites on ratings and sales of product. When some people chant "there are only two vehicles, Benz and others" I only laugh because these are nothing more than ignorant stereotypes.
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Timelezz: 5:16pm On Feb 21, 2017
ChristineC:
If these cars have all the hullaballoo and still sits in a dealer shop with lesser resale value than their Toyota counterparts then that should tell you that the conventional day to day user demand practicability, not a hell load of tosh crammed in with nothing standing out.
Tecno will always outsell Apple and Samsung. It is cheap and it's affordable. And the world will always have more poor people than rich people. Period. Toyota is meant for everybody. Mercedes Benz is not! End of story.!
ChristineC:
Vehicle manufacturing are into various segments, those that want speed and manoeuvring index know where to look likewise those that want haulage capabilities or just a family sedan. For Toyota to still have a good number of representation in these segments even in countries with credible auto plants should give you a solid picture.
The Land Cruiser and the LX compete favourably with any other high-end luxury SUV in their class.
The Tacoma/Hilux do the same.
The 4Runner do the same.

If you wish to stretch it we can dig up comparable stats from credible websites on ratings and sales of product.
Why are Japanese brands struggling on the luxury department? If they are that good, they should make as much sales on their luxury brand as they do in those crappy segment.

Are you a fanboy?
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by ChristineC: 5:47pm On Feb 21, 2017
Timelezz:
Tecno will always outsell Apple and Samsung. It is cheap and it's affordable. And the world will always have more poor people than rich people. Period. Toyota is meant for everybody. Mercedes Benz is not! End of story.!
Why are Japanese brands struggling on the luxury department? If they are that good, they should make as much sales on their luxury brand as they do in those crappy segment.

Are you a fanboy?
so it's now that they dominate the "crappy" section. Keep your rich dad poor dad talk to yourself.
These are credible links (all American and European), mostly surveyed from consumers who ACTUALLY OWN AND USE. debunk them with facts and not "perception" or eat the humble pie, study and learn. Ciao.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/here-are-the-10-most-and-least-reliable-cars-according-to-consumer-reports/

www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/the-most-and-least-reliable-cars-by-class/

www.digitaltrends.com/cars/most-reliable-cars/

www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/recommended/most-reliable-cars

www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2016/10/top-10-most-reliable-car-brands.html

Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by fujirice: 7:41pm On Feb 21, 2017
wayne4loan:
Exchange rate bros ... We all make mistakes
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You got me confused there
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by wayne4loan: 9:07pm On Feb 21, 2017
fujirice:
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You got me confused there
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Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Bobxin(m): 11:48pm On Feb 21, 2017
orjikuramo:
Sorry, which would u rate as better.
Mercedes
Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Originalsly: 7:39pm On Feb 22, 2017
Hmmmm.....if Benz and BMW are sooo good..... why do they depreciate so fast?.... why aren't they popular with explorers?.... I don't recall ever seeing any ever being used on National Geographic or Discovery programme.... and these expedition guys are not Japanese..... why? Hmmm....I guess reliability issues. Back to topic....maybe Honda and Toyota are doing same?

Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by Originalsly: 7:56pm On Feb 22, 2017
Honda...Hundaihuh...

Re: See Why Bmw And Mercedes Build Similar Cars by tck2000(m): 1:19pm On Jun 06, 2019
Benz
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