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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by Amoto94(m): 7:42am On Feb 26, 2017
quickly:


ANOTHER REASONS IS ISLAM aND ISLAMIC EDUCATION WHICH is of NO PRACTICAL USE in human development and governance. it encourages rankadede and almajari bambi alla . look at the destruction and amount of money spent to quell destruction, provide military equipment etc
Ordinarily I wouldn't have dignified you with a mention but for the sake of claity. Islam doesn't hinder human growth and development and it isn't in support of people taking begging as a profession. One of the jurists in Islam Imam as-Shafi'ee said after the science of hadith what one should learn is science of medicine, this man died. The famous exegete of the Qur'an Imam at-Tabari was a mathematician, Ibn Taymiyyah another scholar was a philosopher what about Ibn Khaldun he was a sociologist. I can go on and on and name others who are successful in their chosen fields.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by codemaniacs: 7:57am On Feb 26, 2017
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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by kabawa(m): 8:01am On Feb 26, 2017
CROWNWEALTH019:
7. The religion of ISIS cool

Religion of isis,but all your stinking asses are queued in all the UAE embassy for greener pasture
Why not go to Israel ehn, rago answer me na grin

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by AlphaStyles(m): 8:02am On Feb 26, 2017
he nailed it
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by kabawa(m): 8:07am On Feb 26, 2017
quickly:


ANOTHER REASONS IS ISLAM aND ISLAMIC EDUCATION WHICH is of NO PRACTICAL USE in human development and governance. it encourages rankadede and almajari bambi alla . look at the destruction and amount of money spent to quell destruction, provide military equipment etc

You are critically daft ASAP grin
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by kabawa(m): 8:09am On Feb 26, 2017
OkoYibo:




When you get the opportunity to travel to Dubai, you lot go to church to share testimony. Is Dubai a Christian country?

The problem is leadership. The North has the worst possible set of leaders. Their leaders have the gift of ruining any thing they lay their hands on. This is because leaders there are made through quota and not merit.

Can you mention any organisation under Northern leadership which is thriving?

Ministry of environment cool
Now fly grin
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by aiboss: 8:11am On Feb 26, 2017
You forgot to mention 'marrying too many wives and having too many kids than their pockets can maintain'. Almajiris are everywhere in the north like MTN.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by DeRay98(m): 8:12am On Feb 26, 2017
BE811APP:
Any Place associated with dry lands and Dessert always have this kinds of problems....lol

Wrong assumption, only in Nig and West Africa are like than. The whole of North Africa and Middle East are dry land and desert yet they are clean and better societies competing with the advanced world.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by eyinjuege: 8:28am On Feb 26, 2017
Youngzedd:


Even with Kaduna free education they just don't want to go.

The best thing is to create another country for them where there will be no education.

In Kaduna what they do is to come eat the free meal and go away.

They are not ready period.

dokyOloye:
and they should receive Christ as Lord and saviour.
Cos most Islamic countries/regions always have this type of northern Nigeria kind of doom.

What you guys don't realise about the north is that for decades now, there has been a deliberate alienation of the poor from education by the elites.
There used to be that mentality of "who would serve the elites, if the poor go to school, and get empowered?"
It has nothing to do with religion btw because Muslims in the SW are doing excellently well in different fields both children of the poor, and rich. I know too many people from humble backgrounds who are well educated, and are masters in their various fields. Even the children of the elite in the north, both male and female are experts in their chosen professions unless they decide not to pursue a career. Most of the elites educate their children to the highest levels and are served by the children of their parents servants.
If they have a govt with strong political will, they can do a lot in terms of education for the poor.
Its not enough to provide free meals.
It should be mandatory for teenagers who have chosen not to go to school to attend some skill acquisition classes, so more skill acquisition schools should be provided.
Even in the south, not everyone goes to school, but they still engage in something.
Open mechanic workshops around, tailoring workshops, etc. Make it mandatory for parents to send their children. If you're going to entice them, do that not with free meals, but with something else they'll have access to after COMPLETING the school or skill acquisition
If it means setting up those programs with the mallams of the almajiris, then do so. Work closely with those mallams (though some of them are evil and torture the boys). Make sure the mallams are registered with the govt, and can be easily monitored. Anyone found wanting should be dealt with.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by LastProphet: 8:49am On Feb 26, 2017
OkoYibo:




When you get the opportunity to travel to Dubai, you lot go to church to share testimony. Is Dubai a Christian country?

The problem is leadership. The North has the worst possible set of leaders. Their leaders have the gift of ruining any thing they lay their hands on. This is because leaders there are made through quota and not merit.

Can you mention any organisation under Northern leadership which is thriving?

the only rich muslim countries are those with a natural source of wealth which made them rich by accident like Saudi Arabia. The Dubai you mention does not operate like an Islamic country, they keep small families and lastly still relies heavily on natural oil wealth as it seeks transition to a service economy. islam is poverty and poverty is islam simple

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by baysan(m): 8:50am On Feb 26, 2017
Omudia:
The bolded is a big fat lie. Arabs and Muslims in general have contributed nothing to modern civilization or science. Even if they have, it is largely inconsequential.

Aristotle , Isaac Newton , Robert Boyle, Albert Einstein, Archimedes, Marie Curie, Galileo Galilei, Michael Faraday, Nikola Telsa etc, which of the above was an Arab or Muslim?

Muslim scientists and inventors, including Arabs, Persians and Turks, were probably hundreds of years ahead of their counterparts in the European Middle Ages. They drew influence from Aristotelian philosophy and Neo-platonists, as well as Euclid, Archimedes, Ptolemy and others. The muslims made innumerable discoveries and wrote countless books about medicine, surgery, physics, chemistry, philosophy, astrology, geometry and various other fields.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/feb/01/islamic-science

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by LastProphet: 8:53am On Feb 26, 2017
Amoto94:
Ordinarily I wouldn't have dignified you with a mention but for the sake of claity. Islam doesn't hinder human growth and development and it isn't in support of people taking begging as a profession. One of the jurists in Islam Imam as-Shafi'ee said after the science of hadith what one should learn is science of medicine, this man died. The famous exegete of the Qur'an Imam at-Tabari was a mathematician, Ibn Taymiyyah another scholar was a philosopher what about Ibn Khaldun he was a sociologist. I can go on and on and name others who are successful in their chosen fields.

yet Arabia has produced less than 20 nobel laureates since inception and after over 12000 recipients, Arabia thrived in the sciences BEFORE islam and not AFTER! go and check your history very well

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by LastProphet: 8:58am On Feb 26, 2017
baysan:


Muslim scientists and inventors, including Arabs, Persians and Turks, were probably hundreds of years ahead of their counterparts in the European Middle Ages. They drew influence from Aristotelian philosophy and Neo-platonists, as well as Euclid, Archimedes, Ptolemy and others. The muslims made innumerable discoveries and wrote countless books about medicine, surgery, physics, chemistry, philosophy, astrology, geometry and various other fields.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/feb/01/islamic-science

lies!

all that was before islam came to arabia and a little after, at the time islamic teachings settled in arabia became what it is today. pls tell me one product like phone, tv, pc, from an islamic country? and also research how many nobel laureates come from arabian countries and come back to tell us

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by oluamid(m): 9:05am On Feb 26, 2017
mmsen:


I don't fault the Arabs for using their resources I do however fault the northerners for refusing to exploit theirs using modern technology.

As to your point about taking the good points from the religions - if we did that there would be little or no religious division because the values that are good are universal. Respecting your environment and your fellow man is not particular to any one religion. Cleanliness is not particular to religion. The only elements particular to the individual creeds are the outlandish, unfounded and destructive beliefs - that an illiterate man wrote a book; a virgin gave birth; kufrs should be killed; marrying children is acceptable; not recognizing god is a sin and a greater grievance than rape.

You do not need religion to teach morality. You don't need religion to teach anything worth learning.

I wasn't talking about the religions per se but the culture/mindset of those who brought it to us. Those that brought the religions seem to have a questioning mind which have allowed them to look beyond what their religion says to questioning known knowledge, something we in these parts have mostly ignored. Rather, we follow the religious teachings only and get blinded to everything else. It's like a dog to a bone.

I share the sentiment in your last paragraph.
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by tansho(m): 9:19am On Feb 26, 2017
OkoYibo:




When you get the opportunity to travel to Dubai, you lot go to church to share testimony. Is Dubai a Christian country?

The problem is leadership. The North has the worst possible set of leaders. Their leaders have the gift of ruining any thing they lay their hands on. This is because leaders there are made through quota and not merit.

Can you mention any organisation under Northern leadership which is thriving?



AbtiAmerican University. Dangote Group
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by plaetton: 9:20am On Feb 26, 2017
OkoYibo:




When you get the opportunity to travel to Dubai, you lot go to church to share testimony. Is Dubai a Christian country?

The problem is leadership. The North has the worst possible set of leaders. Their leaders have the gift of ruining any thing they lay their hands on. This is because leaders there are made through quota and not merit.

Can you mention any organisation under Northern leadership which is thriving?
Bingo!

The Northern elites have an antiquated mentality that is based on the feudal past. They see and treat Nigeria as conquered territory, to be continuously subjugated and plundered.
They are very irresponsible with power, otherwise their greed for power and their stranglehold on power should have made the northern region a much more progressive region than the rest of Nigeria.

Look at Gowon, Shagari , IBB, Abacha, Yaradua and now Buhari. Except for the amiable Shagari, we see the same repeating patterns of abuse and irresponsible use of power. They take national power as some kind of family propert and inheritance , and not as a temporary public Trust, as it is supposed to be.

For good example, just look at the last one month of Osinbajo's leadership, his honesty, openness, and then compare with the last 2 yrs Buhari's opaqueness , insensitivity ,aloofness , arrogance and divisiveness. They are like night and day.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by oluamid(m): 9:20am On Feb 26, 2017
Origin:
Their leaders definitely their major problem they practically worship them. The North has hardworking people farmers civil servants etc.

Poverty creates a vicious cycle. Their interpretation of religious teachings Any system that gives people a sense of entitlement will eventually destroy them(power in the North, oil in the Niger Delta, Omo Oniles in the south)

Errm... Just a little correction.

I don't think you can elevate the issue of Omo Onile to the same pedestal as power in the North or militancy in the Niger Delta. Like, how many Omo Oniles are there in the first place?
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by Godstraight(m): 9:24am On Feb 26, 2017
kabawa:


Religion of isis,but all your stinking asses are queued in all the UAE embassy for greener pasture
Why not go to Israel ehn, rago answer me na grin
did he tell you he was going to Dubai?,u are very funny even the rich countries in the Muslim world are bleeped up,gross human abuse ,religious tolerance for minorities,recently a dutch tourist was blamed and almost arrested for getting raped.This is why Saudi Arabia is still a shithole despite it's money
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by Tastemoney(m): 9:25am On Feb 26, 2017
morbeta:
Naked truth.

grin
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by oluamid(m): 9:28am On Feb 26, 2017
musicwriter:


According to your very conservative estimate, let's do a little maths.

Time wasted per day is 75 minutes which is 1 hour 15 minutes.

75 X 7 days means time lost in a week is 526. 05 minutes which is = 8 hours 75 minutes.

A month is 2250 minutes which is = 37 hours 5 minutes.

Therefore, in a single month a Northerner wastes 1 day plus 13 hours in the mosque.

Assuming the population of the North is 50 million people as they claim to be the largest population, that would be at least 50 million days wasted collectively in a month.

50 million days = 136,986 years!!. This's your collective time wasted in mosques just per month o!.

When you input the total population of the North and do the maths you'll discover that little 75 minutes per day costs you a fortune.

I'm no Muslim but don't give a dog a bad name to hang it.

The average Nigerian Christian spends at least 8hrs or even more in the church weekly (Sunday service, weekday fellowship, Friday night vigils) so you can actually calculate the same thing you did above for them too. If you are a Christian then you should be asking yourself the same questions.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by bassydue(m): 9:37am On Feb 26, 2017
BeeBeeOoh:


https://www.naij.com/1090179-revealed-6-critical-reasons-northern-nigeria-remains-poorest-senator-shehu-s.html
The solution is simple "RESTRUCTURING" of country.
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by CROWNWEALTH019(m): 9:38am On Feb 26, 2017
kabawa:


Religion of isis,but all your stinking asses are queued in all the UAE embassy for greener pasture
Why not go to Israel ehn, rago answer me na grin
hahahahaaaaaa, how many percentage compared to you harams that wanna go to USA and other infidel countries... hypocrite
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by plaetton: 9:50am On Feb 26, 2017
oluamid:


Errm... Just a little correction.

I don't think you can elevate the issue of Omo Onile to the same pedestal as power in the North or militancy in the Niger Delta. Like, how many Omo Oniles are there in the first place?

Eehhm, ehhm... Just a little correction my friend.

I can guestimate about about 500,000 in Lagos.

Omo Owo mi da are a much more culturally entrenched, permanent and much more pernicious cancer than Niger Delta militancy.

My rough calculation puts the economic robbery of omonile, agberos , etc at N0.5 trillion per year.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by humilitypays(m): 9:53am On Feb 26, 2017
‎Dubai, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain are not example of developed or hardworking nations. It is Europeans, Americans and Asians that developed their nations for them in exchange for crude oil money.

Selling crude oil (natural resources) in your land to build fine houses, hotels, markets, etc and buy luxury cars doesn't make you hardworking...

If crude oil dries up forever, all Arab countries except Iran will become poor and miserable. Arab people are lazy people, they aren't hardworking.

How many technology, startup, scientific innovation or global solution were discovered by Arabs I am sure none!

Without being religious, of all the over 15 different religions in the world, Islam is known for producing lazy, dependent people, why Muslims spend time studying their holy book; Quran instead of studying innovative books that proffer real solutions to global problems.

Muslims religiouslize everything they do; their school is all about Quranic principles instead of science, technology, human capital development, modern leadership and management skills.

A Muslim child spend more time cramming Arabic Quran while his/her mates are busy learning scientific/technological principles.

In summary, Islam is one of the problems facing the north. They should throw away the Saudi Arabia type of Islam they practice and emulate Iran's type that focuses more on technology development.

Egypt used to be the bedrock of world technology until Mohammed conquered Egypt and introduced Islam which helped to draw Egypt back in terms of education and technology.‎

Northern Nigerians must learn to stop being extreme in their practice of Islam....they should learn from the Yorubas.
‎
Northern Nigerians must stop practicing that part of Islam that encourages polygamy cos it breeds unwanted children which makes it difficult to cater for and hence, increased beggars, robbers, terrorists and dejected people!‎

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by oluamid(m): 9:55am On Feb 26, 2017
plaetton:


Eehhm, ehhm... Just a little correction my friend.

I can guestimate about about 500,000 in Lagos.

Omo Owo mi da are a much more culturally entrenched, permanent and much more pernicious cancer than Niger Delta militancy.

My rough calculation puts the economic robbery of omonile, agberos , etc at N0.5 trillion per year.

Like you said it's "guesstimate" one which I'm certain is very incorrect.

Omo Oniles are those guys who extort people trying to put up structures or am I wrong?
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by Ennyforeal(f): 10:02am On Feb 26, 2017
OkoYibo:




When you get the opportunity to travel to Dubai, you lot go to church to share testimony. Is Dubai a Christian country?

The problem is leadership. The North has the worst possible set of leaders. Their leaders have the gift of ruining any thing they lay their hands on. This is because leaders there are made through quota and not merit.

Can you mention any organisation under Northern leadership which is thriving?
seconded. even Malaysia has Muslim majority but look at Malay now next hub for education and they are also accommodating but if na our dear northern Nigeria even a copper will be frustrated before the end of his/her nysc year just because she is not part of them or do not share their belief in terms of religion or mode of dressing. I really can't i identify the problem with the northerners even the educated ones reason like a cow but I don't blame the few educated ones bcoz the see it as a way of eating from the natns cake but doesn't have any impact in their reasoning

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by juman(m): 10:03am On Feb 26, 2017
The main reason why north is poor is there is no real leader to lead their people to success.
Look, yoruba people are also very poor. We dont have that kind of real leader.

Awolowo was a real leader that saw common people as his family members. He was really concerned about them living good lifes.
Awolowo and his guys were successful leaders because they led with clear roadmap and love of their people.
But today in nigeria we have just noise makers "leaders". Those that are doing politics just for politics purpose.
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by plaetton: 10:03am On Feb 26, 2017
oluamid:


Like you said it's "guesstimate" one which I'm certain is very incorrect.

Omo Oniles are those guys who extort people trying to put up structures or am I wrong?

You are free to do your own calculations and correct my figures.

I grade the land omoniles, the market omoniles, the bus stop and roadside Omo Owo mi da as one SPECIE . Altogether, they represent a degenerate culture of laziness and extortion as their own fundamental right.

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by Krismart(m): 10:04am On Feb 26, 2017
Delphi:
Sir, you forgot to put 'polygamy' there. A situation where someone who cannot fend for himself satisfactorily marries upto 4 wives with myriad of children but with no sustenability plans.
It still balls down to education

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Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by juman(m): 10:08am On Feb 26, 2017
People like obj, buhari etc supposed to be councilor or local government chairman not president of the whole country.
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by Hafeezson(m): 10:26am On Feb 26, 2017
Nice! any way is ur zone out of all what u listed? For us to know u mean what u saying
Re: 6 Critical Reasons Why Northern Nigeria Remains The Poorest - Sen. Shehu Sani by ODUBEZE: 10:34am On Feb 26, 2017
BeeBeeOoh:


https://www.naij.com/1090179-revealed-6-critical-reasons-northern-nigeria-remains-poorest-senator-shehu-s.html
No 4 reminds me of our current president

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