Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Sincerelyme(f): 2:55pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
ADEWUMIMichael: The Bible is a story of God’s
relationship with mankind, and
most books put God front and
center. For example:
The prophets are God’s
mouthpieces: the last 17
books of the Old Testament
are mostly words straight
from God.
The Gospels focus on Jesus’
life and ministry. Jesus, the
God-man, is the main
character in all four books.
The Law of Moses is about
God’s covenant with and
rules for Israel..
But as it turns out, two books
of the Bible don’t talk about
God at all . Weird, right?
ESTHER
Esther is the kind of story you
could make into a movie again
and again and again. This book
focuses on two Jews in Susa,
the capital of the Persian
Empire: Esther, a girl who
becomes queen, and her
relative Mordecai, a member of
King Ahaseurus’ guard.
If you’re not familiar with the
story of Esther, you can get the
big picture here . In short,
Esther risks her life to prevent
an act of genocide against her
people. It’s the history of the
Jewish feast of Purim.
And there’s no mention of
God. So, that’s one down.
Here’s the next:
SONG of SOLOMON.....
Song of Solomon might be the
most awkward book to read.
It’s a celebration of love,
beauty, sex, and marriage. The
main characters are a bride
and bridegroom, who sing back
and forth to one another and to
their community. You’ll find a
lot of poetic references to the
human anatomy, but you won’t
see any mention of God as a
person...
This one isn’t as cut-and-dry as
Esther. There’s one passage of
Song of Solomon in which the
bride describes the strength
and intensity of true love. She
compares this love to a fire, but
what kind of fire? Our English
Bible translations tend to differ
on how Song of Solomon 8:6
should end.
Why don’t these
books mention God?
There are a few reasons these
books don’t mention God:
There are no direct words
from God. Most books of the
Old Testament mention
prophets, who speak on
God’s behalf; neither of
these stories, however,
include any spokespersonh
for God.
There are no overt miracles.
When God does something
completely out of the
ordinary, the Bible credits
Him for it. But Esther is a
story of human action, and
Song of Solomon focuses on
human love.
What are these books
even doing in the
Bible, then?
These books don’t stand alone.
We should read them in
context of God’s covenant with
Israel. And when we take that
into account, it’s clear that
there’s a lot going on below the
surface.
For example, Esther and
Mordecai are placing their faith
in something beyond
themselves:
Esther and Mordecai fast in
times of troub
Mordecai is confident that
the Jews will be delivered.
Mordecai and Esther act in faith
throughout the book. Mordecai
is a man of integrity, and
Esther is a self-sacrificial
heroine. We don’t know for
sure if Mordecai had God’s
promises to Abraham and
David in mind when he claimed
that the Jews would be
delivered ( Es 4:14 ). But words
from God would make a good
foundation for those beliefs.
Esther gives me an idea of
what faith looks like when it’s
played out, and leaves me
with the question: is my faith
as evident as Esther’s and
Mordecai’s?.
And Song of Solomon describes
the bliss of married love. God
sees His relationship to Israel
as one of marriage, evenq
though Israel is a terrible bride
to Him. Jeremiah , Ezekiel ,
and Hosea all use marriage to
describe God’s covenant to
Israel—usually to paint a
picture of Israel’s sin ( Jer 3:1 ;
Eze 16 ; Hos 1).
yes . I can't also help but ask if my faith is as rooted as Esther's.
Well done |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Sincerelyme(f): 2:57pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Thepasserby: The book of Esther actually started from The book of Samuel.
It was a demonstration of why God orders man to do certain awkward things. In the book of 1Samuel 15, God told Saul to destroy the Amalikites but he ended up sparing the king and his household. Although King Agag was later killed by Samuel, but some of his descendants escaped.
Haman was a descendant of Agag and that explains why he had so much hatred for the Jews. (Esther 3:1). wow feeling like actually taking real time to studying my bible. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by achieverme(m): 3:03pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Kondomatic: I don't know what Song of Solomon is doing in the Bible I hope you can see the hypocrisy of Christians. Many of you think songs of Solomon should be in the bible, but you condemn Catholics for adding the books of Tobit, Maccabees, etc. Deep sitted hypocrisy. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by achieverme(m): 3:05pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Thepasserby: The book of Esther actually started from The book of Samuel.
It was a demonstration of why God orders man to do certain awkward things. In the book of 1Samuel 15, God told Saul to destroy the Amalikites but he ended up sparing the king and his household. Although King Agag was later killed by Samuel, but some of his descendants escaped.
Haman was a descendant of Agag and that explains why he had so much hatred for the Jews. (Esther 3:1). And what sayest thou about the songs of Solomon. Between the songs of Solomon and the book of Maccabees, Tobit, et al, which do you think should deserve a place in the Bible? |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by achieverme(m): 3:09pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
softMarket: The foolishness of GOD is wiser than the wisest of men!!
Stop being dumb sir. It wasn't God that compiled the 66 books of the Bible together. It was human beings that chose 66 out of the numerous scrolls of those days and join them together as Bible. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Limitless72(m): 3:10pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
dumodust:
bros... you are now writing your own book o outside the bible Itz what you said....dat "solomon is the wisest man to have ever lived".... Nd even if you were emphazing from the bible...Jesus was recorded in the bible and he's wiser than solomon.... Xo broda solomon is not the wisest man...period!!! |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by achieverme(m): 3:11pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
nemynely:
It's there to prove to certain Christians that romance, pre-intimacy, sweet somethings, effusive verbal sensual remarks of fond parts on your spouse etc ARE ALLOWED WHOLESALE IN THE CONFINES OF HOLY MATRIMONY.
Forget it. The Bible was compiled by humans |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by dumodust(m): 3:14pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Limitless72:
Itz what you said....dat "solomon is the wisest man to have ever lived".... Nd even if you were emphazing from the bible...Jesus was recorded in the bible and he's wiser than solomon.... Xo broda solomon is not the wisest man...period!!! i didnt say anything before but BTW, is Jesus not God? |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Kjking(m): 3:14pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
kingsizedude: can u emerging OP u said books u said bible, what do you think is the meaning of BIBLE in Hebrew are you a learner, it still means book. so why mentioning two books of book then. are you trying to make a point? |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Emycord: 3:18pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
ademasta: Hmmmm Song of Mr Solo(he that used wisdom to copulate with 300 housewives and 700 Olosho(s)...)
Hmmm again. FTC(Flying To Church) Not First To Comment reproduce ? I dont think so he only had two sons to show for a thousand women. I doubt if he knew or even met most of them not to talk of satisfying them for even if he had no other job as king but to mate them, it will take close to 3 years for them to go round? 2 Likes |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by raphealolami(m): 3:57pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
ademasta: Hmmmm Song of Mr Solo(he that used wisdom to copulate with 300 housewives and 700 Olosho(s)...)
Hmmm again. FTC(Flying To Church) hhh Not First To Comment |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Thepasserby(m): 5:12pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
achieverme:
And what sayest thou about the songs of Solomon. Between the songs of Solomon and the book of Maccabees, Tobit, et al, which do you think should deserve a place in the Bible? Song of Solomon was a poem between a man and his lover. Although their was no mention of God in the texts bit replace the Young man with God and the lady with Israel, it will make perfect meaning to you. Have you ever read the books of Maccabees and Tobit? I have and I know their content. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Thepasserby(m): 5:15pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Sincerelyme:
wow feeling like actually taking real time to studying my bible.
There is a difference between study and relation sir. Ask for revelation and not just the ability to study. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by achieverme(m): 5:23pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Thepasserby:
Song of Solomon was a poem between a man and his lover. Although their was no mention of God in the texts bit replace the Young man with God and the lady with Israel, it will make perfect meaning to you.
Have you ever read the books of Maccabees and Tobit? I have and I know their content.
Which part of songs of Solomon told you it is btw a man and his wife? Why not between a man and his concubines? It only happens that the writer has innumerable concubines. The excuse you pentecostals give against the apocriphers is that they were written when God wasn't speaking with humans. Can you point out any iota of God-speaking-with-humans in the Songs of Solomon? |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Thepasserby(m): 5:35pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
achieverme:
Which part of songs of Solomon told you it is btw a man and his wife? Why not between a man and his concubines? It only happens that the writer has innumerable concubines.
The excuse you pentecostals give against the apocriphers is that they were written when God wasn't speaking with humans. Can you point out any iota of God-speaking-with-humans in the Songs of Solomon? Sir, I was not at the council when the 66 books were decided. I asked you a question which you have not answered. Plus I AM A CHRISTIAN AND NOT A PENTECOSTAL. Talking about Solomon, yes he had so many concubines and wives but was there any law stopping him from having as many as he wanted? When he erred by marrying the wrong people was he spared or punished? He had the most peaceful reign in the Bible because he used his wisdom to marry the daughters of people that will likely attack his reign. You have sent me on an errand and I promise to check the original texts from which Songs of Solomon was translated from. Thanks... And Jesus loves you. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by achieverme(m): 5:41pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Thepasserby:
Sir, I was not at the council when the 66 books were decided. I asked you a question which you have not answered. Plus I AM A CHRISTIAN AND NOT A PENTECOSTAL.
Talking about Solomon, yes he had so many concubines and wives but was there any law stopping him from having as many as he wanted?
When he erred by marrying the wrong people was he spared or punished?
He had the most peaceful reign in the Bible because he used his wisdom to marry the daughters of people that will likely attack his reign.
You have sent me on an errand and I promise to check the original texts from which Songs of Solomon was translated from.
Thanks... And Jesus loves you. You have deviated from the original quest. What qualifies songs of Solomon to be part of the scripture and disqualifies Maccabees, tobit, et al from being part of the scriptures? |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Thepasserby(m): 5:45pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
achieverme:
You have deviated from the original quest. What qualifies songs of Solomon to be part of the scripture and disqualifies Maccabees, tobit, et al from being part of the scriptures? I don't know what prompted the council to do it and I have no problem with it in the Bible sir. Please if you have any other question send me a mail. Check my signature for the address. Thanks. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by luvmijeje(f): 6:54pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
The first time I read song of Solomon, I was like, am I still reading the Bible? I was so uncomfortable.
I said no wonder this book has never been use to preached in the church. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Ezionye(f): 8:27pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Realist2:
You know what i see when i check ur dp ?, i see a girl who is on the edge . The story is still stale |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by ademasta(m): 8:32pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Emycord: reproduce ? I dont think so he only had two sons to show for a thousand women. I doubt if he knew or even met most of them not to talk of satisfying them for even if he had no other job as king but to mate them, it will take close to 3 years for them to go round? You are correct 1 Like |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by sfinkzslot(m): 10:56pm On Feb 26, 2017 |
Kondomatic: I don't know what Song of Solomon is doing in the Bible hmmmm...I sabi una! |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by Origin(f): 1:46am On Feb 27, 2017 |
Jesus is a God-man. God has blood, eats, poo and takes a bath. God prays to God teaches others to pray to God. ? God says"I have not been SENT to......". Who sent who ? God is nailed on a cross, bleeds and starts begging WHO in heaven ? God was the one who woke Lazarus and kept shouting" I have no power of my own". ? BLASPHEMY definition: 'the act of claiming the attributes of a deity <for a mere man to suggest that he was … divine could only be viewed … as blasphemy — John Bright †1889>' TEN COMMANDMENTS: I AM THE LORD THY GOD. THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BESIDES ME. THOU SHALL NOT MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE (pictures and statues of Jesus). Jesus said" Hear o Israel, thy Lord thy God is One" Why is Man determined to worship other human beings- sango oya obatala ogun etc. The God that molded Adam from nothing, cannot He create Jesus without a father? The God that created the earth round and no one falls off. The God that created the heavens, the blazing SUN, the planets. Cannot He create what he wills? |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by bizzibodi(m): 3:42am On Feb 27, 2017 |
ehissi:
He just quoted First Corinthians Chapter one verse 25. You say na blasphemy?
My friend go and read your bible.......... whether na from bible or not that adjective is too bad to use on d Almighty yaweh,the creator of d universe. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by ehissi(m): 9:53am On Feb 27, 2017 |
bizzibodi:
whether na from bible or not that adjective is too bad to use on d Almighty yaweh,the creator of d universe. What is too bad hia, is your lack of understanding of Scripture. First and foremost, no real Christian who has the fear of God, understanding and is a calm fellow talks as reckless as you just did - in case you don't know, that is reckless, read the last 10 verses of the bible for greater understanding that is assuming I am talking to a Christian and not a muslim. Second the scripture quoted is in First Corinthians Chapter one and verse 25. Third, it was a comparison between Man's wisdom and God's wisdom. It doesn't call God foolish, it simply a comparison between the wisdom of God and that of man. A simple real - life practical analogy will suffice. Pastor Matthew Asimolowo once gave a testimony that concerned Bishop Oyedepo. He said many years ago, he got a call from a very excited Oyedepo to come and see that he had gotten a place for a facility. He entered car with Bishop, only for him to take him to one scorpion/snake infested area inside one thick bush in Ogun state and said that "God asked him to build a camp in that place and the name of the place was going to be called Shiloh.........." According to Asimolowo, he just dey look am, because nothing he said made sense. You want to build a camp, inside this bush and you are saying people from Lagos and all around the world will come and join you to die sahra...... Even if the place was built eventually, it would cost billions of which, Oyedepo as at the time, nor get money, E no get better relationship with bank and you say you will build such a facility debt free. As far as he was concerned, he just dey talk rubbish........or maybe na too much bible reading dey make am misbehave. Today Shiloh Camp ground is a standard, to the extent that almost every major Church is now going to build camp inside Bush, from MFM, to Redeem church, to Four square Gospel. Even Muslims have their own camp (NASFAT). Since Shiloh was launched, Pastor Asimolowo has said na since that Shiloh launching that he has learnt to respect the type of Faith whey Bishop Oyedepo get - this one no be tokunbo, na brand new. As far as he is concerned, anything the man says God sent him to do, he will do it, don't just bother yourself. For a man like him to raise that camp and every single thing he has said he was going to do and was going to happen all without error came to pass. You may be thinking God can never be foolish which is a great truth, but an upright, God fearing man says or takes a decision based on what God told him to do and you call him unreasonable, blind, senseless or a fool. Isn't that the same thing as calling God or his wisdom foolishness?? Think on that for minute and see if it is un-scriptural............ That is why Apostle Paul can say without fear of Contradiction irrespective of what you think as long as it is God's wisdom, No matter how it may look or seem, "even the foolishness of God is wiser than (the wisdom of ) men. Be guided by the wisdom of God.......... 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by bizzibodi(m): 1:46pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
ehissi:
What is too bad hia, is your lack of understanding of Scripture.
First and foremost, no real Christian who has the fear of God, understanding and is a calm fellow talks as reckless as you just did - in case you don't know, that is reckless, read the last 10 verses of the bible for greater understanding that is assuming I am talking to a Christian and not a muslim.
Second the scripture quoted is in First Corinthians Chapter one and verse 25.
Third, it was a comparison between Man's wisdom and God's wisdom. It doesn't call God foolish, it simply a comparison between the wisdom of God and that of man.
A simple real - life practical analogy will suffice.
Pastor Matthew Asimolowo once gave a testimony that concerned Bishop Oyedepo. He said many years ago, he got a call from a very excited Oyedepo to come and see that he had gotten a place for a facility. He entered car with Bishop, only for him to take him to one scorpion/snake infested area inside one thick bush in Ogun state and said that "God asked him to build a camp in that place and the name of the place was going to be called Shiloh.........."
According to Asimolowo, he just dey look am, because nothing he said made sense. You want to build a camp, inside this bush and you are saying people from Lagos and all around the world will come and join you to die sahra...... Even if the place was built eventually, it would cost billions of which, Oyedepo as at the time, nor get money, E no get better relationship with bank and you say you will build such a facility debt free.
As far as he was concerned, he just dey talk rubbish........or maybe na too much bible reading dey make am misbehave. Today Shiloh Camp ground is a standard, to the extent that almost every major Church is now going to build camp inside Bush, from MFM, to Redeem church, to Four square Gospel. Even Muslims have their own camp (NASFAT).
Since Shiloh was launched, Pastor Asimolowo has said na since that Shiloh launching that he has learnt to respect the type of Faith whey Bishop Oyedepo get - this one no be tokunbo, na brand new. As far as he is concerned, anything the man says God sent him to do, he will do it, don't just bother yourself. For a man like him to raise that camp and every single thing he has said he was going to do and was going to happen all without error came to pass.
You may be thinking God can never be foolish which is a great truth, but an upright, God fearing man says or takes a decision based on what God told him to do and you call him unreasonable, blind, senseless or a fool. Isn't that the same thing as calling God or his wisdom foolishness??
Think on that for minute and see if it is un-scriptural............
That is why Apostle Paul can say without fear of Contradiction irrespective of what you think as long as it is God's wisdom, No matter how it may look or seem, "even the foolishness of God is wiser than (the wisdom of ) men. Be guided by the wisdom of God.......... No need 4 long story...My foolishness is wiser is than your wisdom. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by bizzibodi(m): 8:24pm On Feb 27, 2017 |
ehissi:
What is too bad hia, is your lack of understanding of Scripture.
First and foremost, no real Christian who has the fear of God, understanding and is a calm fellow talks as reckless as you just did - in case you don't know, that is reckless, read the last 10 verses of the bible for greater understanding that is assuming I am talking to a Christian and not a muslim.
Second the scripture quoted is in First Corinthians Chapter one and verse 25.
Third, it was a comparison between Man's wisdom and God's wisdom. It doesn't call God foolish, it simply a comparison between the wisdom of God and that of man.
A simple real - life practical analogy will suffice.
Pastor Matthew Asimolowo once gave a testimony that concerned Bishop Oyedepo. He said many years ago, he got a call from a very excited Oyedepo to come and see that he had gotten a place for a facility. He entered car with Bishop, only for him to take him to one scorpion/snake infested area inside one thick bush in Ogun state and said that "God asked him to build a camp in that place and the name of the place was going to be called Shiloh.........."
According to Asimolowo, he just dey look am, because nothing he said made sense. You want to build a camp, inside this bush and you are saying people from Lagos and all around the world will come and join you to die sahra...... Even if the place was built eventually, it would cost billions of which, Oyedepo as at the time, nor get money, E no get better relationship with bank and you say you will build such a facility debt free.
As far as he was concerned, he just dey talk rubbish........or maybe na too much bible reading dey make am misbehave. Today Shiloh Camp ground is a standard, to the extent that almost every major Church is now going to build camp inside Bush, from MFM, to Redeem church, to Four square Gospel. Even Muslims have their own camp (NASFAT).
Since Shiloh was launched, Pastor Asimolowo has said na since that Shiloh launching that he has learnt to respect the type of Faith whey Bishop Oyedepo get - this one no be tokunbo, na brand new. As far as he is concerned, anything the man says God sent him to do, he will do it, don't just bother yourself. For a man like him to raise that camp and every single thing he has said he was going to do and was going to happen all without error came to pass.
You may be thinking God can never be foolish which is a great truth, but an upright, God fearing man says or takes a decision based on what God told him to do and you call him unreasonable, blind, senseless or a fool. Isn't that the same thing as calling God or his wisdom foolishness??
Think on that for minute and see if it is un-scriptural............
That is why Apostle Paul can say without fear of Contradiction irrespective of what you think as long as it is God's wisdom, No matter how it may look or seem, "even the foolishness of God is wiser than (the wisdom of ) men. Be guided by the wisdom of God.......... all that na long story...My foolishness is wiser than your wisdom. |
Re: These 2 Books Of The Bible Didn't Mention The Name God Throughout (SEE WHY) by joinnow: 1:01pm On Mar 04, 2017 |
Op You are so so wrong in one..........
Song of Solomon Contain name of God
Go and ready chapter 8 vs 6
U go see JAH
Abi Jah no bi God name. |