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Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 8:36am On Mar 04, 2017
Pls guys, I've attached the question. I did it to a point and got my value of xyz to be 15. I just can't get the numbers themselves.

Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by RealLordZeus(m): 8:42am On Mar 04, 2017
Not this morning... Run out of thread
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by Nobody: 8:56am On Mar 04, 2017
X+y+z=1.....(1) X^2+y^2+z^2=35......(2) X^3+y^3+z^3=97.......(3) From equ(3) We that x^3+y^3=(x+y)^3-3xy(x+y) So input that into equation(3) (x+y)^3-3xy(x+y)+z^3=97....(4) Using equ(1) x+y=1-z....(5) Subt into equ(4) (1-z)^3-3xy(1-z)+z^3=97 1-3z+3z^2-z^3-3xy(1-z)+z^3=97 Collect like terms -3z+3z^2-3xy(1-z)=96......(6) From equ(2) x^2+y^2=35-z^2....(7) Also x^2+y^2=(x+y)^2-2xy.....(cool But x+y=1-z so x^2+y^2=(1-z)^2-2xy....(9) Equate equ(7) to equ(9) 35-z^2=(1-z)^2-2xy Make xy the subject and subt into equ(6) xy=z^2-z-17 Put it into -3z+3z^2-3xy(1-z)=96 -3z+3z^2-3(z^2-z-17)(1-z)=96 Divide through by 3 andExpand the bracket and collect like terms z^3-z^2-17z-15=0 Solve the polynomial z=-1, z=-3 z=5 Subt for x and y in each value of z x=-1, x=-3 x=5 And y=-1, y=-3, y=5.
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 8:56am On Mar 04, 2017
RealLordZeus:
Not this morning... Run out of thread
haha. Abeg help bro. It's not compulsory you must solve it in the morning. You can solve it in the afternoon. grin
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 8:58am On Mar 04, 2017
mikezuruki:
X+y+z=1.....(1) X^2+y^2+z^2=35......(2) X^3+y^3+z^3=97.......(3) From equ(3) We that x^3+y^3=(x+y)^3-3xy(x+y) So input that into equation(3) (x+y)^3-3xy(x+y)+z^3=97....(4) Using equ(1) x+y=1-z....(5) Subt into equ(4) (1-z)^3-3xy(1-z)+z^3=97 1-3z+3z^2-z^3-3xy(1-z)+z^3=97 Collect like terms -3z+3z^2-3xy(1-z)=96......(6) From equ(2) x^2+y^2=35-z^2....(7) Also x^2+y^2=(x+y)^2-2xy.....(cool But x+y=1-z so x^2+y^2=(1-z)^2-2xy....(9) Equate equ(7) to equ(9) 35-z^2=(1-z)^2-2xy Make xy the subject and subt into equ(6) xy=z^2-z-17 Put it into -3z+3z^2-3xy(1-z)=96 -3z+3z^2-3(z^2-z-17)(1-z)=96 Divide through by 3 andExpand the bracket and collect like terms z^3-z^2-17z-15=0 Solve the polynomial z=-1, z=-3 z=5 Subt for x and y in each value of z x=-1, x=-3 x=5 And y=-1, y=-3, y=5.
grin grin grin. Thanks very much bro. I'm very grateful.
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by nextprince: 9:04am On Mar 04, 2017
X=5
Y= -3
Z= -1
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 9:12am On Mar 04, 2017
nextprince:
X=5
Y= -3
Z= -1
Thanks very much bro. .
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by nextprince: 9:26am On Mar 04, 2017
sureteeboy:
Pls, bro, can you help me snap your working sheet and upload it.
I learnt that the equation has 6 true answers (that is, 3 different but true values for x y and z). You've got one of them and Mikezuruki also got another one, so, I want to see how the method differs. Thanks very much.
In this equation, there is no unique value attached to any of the unknowns. They are interchangeable. Attempt interchanging the values I stated and check, u will arrive at the same answer.

Eg
5-3-1=1
-3+5-1=1
-1-3+5=1

Or

5^2-3^2-1^2=35
-3^2+5^2-1^2=35
-1^2-3^2+5^2=35
Same with the third equation.
Such elaborate working ain't necessary especially when time is a factor.
From equation 1, it is very apparent that there are negative and positive values
And from equation 2, the square of any number is positive and certainly non of the numbers should be more than 6. Therefore, u can choose from -4 to 5 and be adding the squares of different combinations.
I got it at equation 2, and simply confirm it with equation 3.
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 10:28am On Mar 04, 2017
nextprince:
In this equation, there is no unique value attached to any of the unknowns. They are interchangeable. Attempt interchanging the values I stated and check, u will arrive at the same answer.

Eg
5-3-1=1
-3+5-1=1
-1-3+5=1

Or

5^2-3^2-1^2=35
-3^2+5^2-1^2=35
-1^2-3^2+5^2=35
Same with the third equation.
Such elaborate working ain't necessary especially when time is a factor.
From equation 1, it is very apparent that there are negative and positive values
And from equation 2, the square of any number is positive and certainly non of the numbers should be more than 6. Therefore, u can choose from -4 to 5 and be adding the squares of different combinations.
I got it at equation 2, and simply confirm it with equation 3.
Thanks Bro. I figured that out, that's why I deleted the question. I never knew you saw it.
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by dejt4u(m): 10:55am On Mar 04, 2017
(x, y, z) = (-1, -3, 5) OR (x, y, z) = (-3, 5, -1) OR (x, y, z) = (5, -1, -3)
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 2:33pm On Mar 04, 2017
mikezuruki:
X+y+z=1.....(1)
X^2+y^2+z^2=35......(2)
X^3+y^3+z^3=97.......(3)
From equ(3)
We that x^3+y^3=(x+y)^3-3xy(x+y)
So input that into equation(3)
(x+y)^3-3xy(x+y)+z^3=97....(4)
Using equ(1) x+y=1-z....(5)
Subt into equ(4)
(1-z)^3-3xy(1-z)+z^3=97
1-3z+3z^2-z^3-3xy(1-z)+z^3=97
Collect like terms
-3z+3z^2-3xy(1-z)=96......(6)
From equ(2)
x^2+y^2=35-z^2....(7)
Also x^2+y^2=(x+y)^2-2xy.....(cool
But x+y=1-z so
x^2+y^2=(1-z)^2-2xy....(9)
Equate equ(7) to equ(9)
35-z^2=(1-z)^2-2xy
Make xy the subject and subt into equ(6)
xy=z^2-z-17
Put it into -3z+3z^2-3xy(1-z)=96
-3z+3z^2-3(z^2-z-17)(1-z)=96
Divide through by 3 andExpand the bracket and
collect like terms
z^3-z^2-17z-15=0
Solve the polynomial
z=-1, z=-3 z=5
Subt for x and y in each value of z
x=-1, x=-3 x=5
And y=-1, y=-3, y=5.
Pls Bro, I solved the polynomial but I don't understand what you meamt by ;substitute for x and y in each value of z.
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by Nobody: 3:47pm On Mar 04, 2017
sureteeboy:
Pls Bro, I solved the polynomial but I don't understand what you meamt by ;substitute for x and y in each value of z.
If you've gotten the unknown(s) for x and y, no need solving for z. Just subtitute the figures gotten for both x and y
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 3:52pm On Mar 04, 2017
mikezuruki:
If you've gotten the unknown(s) for x and y, no need solving for z. Just subtitute the figures gotten for both x and y
No, what I meant was, I solved the polynomial and I got the 3 values of z. Now, how do I get the values of x and y from there?
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 7:27am On Mar 05, 2017
mikezuruki:
If you've gotten the unknown(s) for x and y, no need solving for z. Just subtitute the figures gotten for both x and y
Bro please, kindly assist for this last time. After getting those values of z, I don't know where to substitute them to get each values of x and y
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by Tellemall: 6:20am On Mar 06, 2017
sureteeboy:
Bro please, kindly assist for this last time. After getting those values of z, I don't know where to substitute them to get each values of x and y
Then find x or y the same way you found z. You only need to know two of the unknowns to solve for x, y [/i]and [i]z.
Re: Pls, Mathematicians, Kindly Help Me Solve This System Of Equations. by sureteeboy(op): 2:28pm On Mar 06, 2017
Tellemall:
Then find x or y the same way you found z. You only need to know two of the unknowns to solve for x, y [/i]and [i]z.
Yeah. I've already done it. Thanks very much.
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