Blue3k:
You honestly can't make it irrelevant given that it brings bulk of money and energy needed to nation short term. You can reduce the impact if the pie is grown in other areas of economy long term. I see Nigeria like Texas without the diversification of economy and good policies. The oil industry important to both place but Texas won't grind to halt with high energy prices.

Diversification of energy is simple approve more coal power plants. Pipeline vandals bite will sting less. You still have coal which is immune to bombing and easier to defend. Best part is it leave more money to fight pipeline vandals with.

It thousands to work in Southeast geopolitical region in coal mines and plants. This will qwell some cries of marginalization. There are many coal deposits in country yet they aren't exploited because sitting in darknees complain is almost as fun as football.

Next energy sources would be nuclear. The reason so far we don't use it despite our neighbor to north being huge supplier of Uranium is because we all know Nigeria is irresponsible. It's cheap and clean source. Fact is nobody want to roll the dice in the commuity.

Diversification of economy is about figuring out where our comparative advantage are naturally then moving to exploit it. The mineral sector bring less the 1% of GDP with Ondo being power house. Next step is Industrialization and mechanicalized farmering. Growing economy past oil is the answer there's plenty opportunities that anyone can list.

The most important factors to policy and and accountability. Everyone knows the issue with Nigerian economy. The fact is Nigeria only puts out fires example being refineries capacity. If there on ease of business, economic freedom, infastrure, and long term plan of being economic hegemony of West Africa we wouldn't be worrying about Niger Delta oil everyday.

baralatie:
unfortunately and fortunately you dont have a choice.Nigeria 2ru PMB signed a green pact to save the earth.in plain english you are Blocked from even building a coal fired station talk less of buying!

baralatie:
You thinking to avoid a crisis still wont hold because coal reserves is at Enugu(Guess what their demand is). So instead of the fg wasting time on alleged claims of oil deposits in chad,benue,bauchi,lagos(which will result to continued crisis).develop the niger delta using its resources

Blue3k:

It would put thousands to work in Southeast geopolitical region in coal mines and plants. This will qwell some cries of marginalization. There are many coal deposits in country yet they aren't exploited because sitting in darknees complaining is almost as fun as football.

melvinjames:
Niger Delta have been feeding Nigeria since 583 AD.

We haf taya already.

Blue3k:


One they can always jump out of agreement nobody going to declare war or sanction us. I think Trump plans to leave agreement aswell. Nobody going to stop us.



Not sure what your point is on the bold part. Didn't I already imply that the energy would be used for SE and provide jobs there. The excess energy will be supplied to other parts of nation. I also said there are other coal deposits in other part of the nation that are being utilized.

I agree on using resources to develope ND region. It's was never issue. I didn't bother addressing it because it not the topic for today. If it were up to me resources control. Minerals and property rights won't be exclusive domain of federal government and would be given to individuals and companies.



Good hopefully the FG get tired of depending on one source of income.

baralatie:
1.wether nigeria decides to jump out of the green pact is a totally different problem.all technologies on advanced coal engineer are in the u.s,britain and europe with franchise agreement with china.we are blocked out means we are blocked out.

baralatie:
4.the issue you are raising is diversification of income for the fg,this is different from increased power generation and utilisation thrrough privatisation.

baralatie:
5.diversification of national economy is a different wahala.

baralatie:
7.in summary we are stock with the nd and unless the fg address the development of that zone,crisis continu

Blue3k:


Scrubber technology isn't new and we could easily do it. The other advanced clean coal tech with carbon capture and coal gasification isn't necessary. All we need is the scrubbers that allow mainly CO2 and trace amounts of metal. That way environment stays clean. As long Nigerian government is serious about keeping environmental standards.



Hardly it's all connected. Energy is life blood of the economy. Most of the productivity issues has to do with lack of energy. In order to industrialize we need stable energy. Yes the sources of energy and sectors FG raises revenue from have lots to do with eachother.




It is that's why policies need to be made and accountability needs to be taken. The reason for ND crisis is due to neglect. Now they are running around putting out fires on their knees.



FG is stupid I agree. The need to negotiate but at same time make policies to make ND less of an Achilles heel. The weakness is very obvious solutions is simple not easy. First diversify negotiations then diversify energy sources, then improve on business environment in multiple sectors. After that reap benefits of good policies and peace.

Ps: there was nothing stopping nigeria from using coal since 60's. It's only FG stupidity of not making policies incentivizing investment in this area. Coal was known about before oil and gas.

baralatie:
let us assume we build a coal fired station(without green tech)the u.n,and e.u will impose trade sanctions excluding penalties on forex trade!

baralatie:
It is a bad plan to negotiate peace in niger delta and downgrade its deveplopment,growth with the other hand(it means you are confirmimg the root cause for agitation,the crisis escalates again).

baralatie:

also coal was only a trade commodity just like cocoa,palm oil and so on.their prices went unprofitable.which brings us back to square 1.pursue nd development and growth enjoy peace,power and industrial growth.there is no avoiding the issue

OreMI22:
Is Ghana or Saudi oil relevant to northerners?
NO, because they don't have a chance to steal it.


Just leave the Niger Delta oil to the owners and it will be irrelevant to you.

Blue3k:


UN and E.U imposes trade sanctions since when? Did they do it to China, India, Niger Rupblic or South Africa etc for crime of not being green. That's joke if you believe that. Besides who said you wouldn't build coal plant without scrubbers that have been around for decades.

List of plants being built world wide:
http://www.wri.org/resources/data-visualizations/proposed-coal-fired-plants-installed-capacity-mw



Who said downgrade it development? Diversification of energy sources doesn't hurt anyone. Do people in Niger delta not benefit from low energy prices? Didn't we agree on government should handle it's responsibility in Region?



The coal is so unprofitable that we sit in darkness with generators instead. That makes sense. Let's say we never export it. Why not use it for domestic consumption. FG should Develope ND no doubt. (Honestly states should develope themselves but that's annother can of worms).

Ps: These steps on either or. Both steps can be taken to diversify and make negotiations. Doing both just gives position of power.

Blue3k:


UN and E.U imposes trade sanctions since when? Did they do it to China, India, Niger Rupblic or South Africa etc for crime of not being green. That's joke if you believe that. Besides who said you wouldn't build coal plant without scrubbers that have been around for decades.

List of plants being built world wide:
http://www.wri.org/resources/data-visualizations/proposed-coal-fired-plants-installed-capacity-mw



Who said downgrade it development? Diversification of energy sources doesn't hurt anyone. Do people in Niger delta not benefit from low energy prices? Didn't we agree on government should handle it's responsibility in Region?



The coal is so unprofitable that we sit in darkness with generators instead. That makes sense. Let's say we never export it. Why not use it for domestic consumption. FG should Develope ND no doubt. (Honestly states should develope themselves but that's annother can of worms).

Ps: These steps on either or. Both steps can be taken to diversify and make negotiations. Doing both just gives position of power.

baralatie:
the last time an africa country dared the power of eu and un.the actors never lived to narate the story.abacha is an example.pmb wanted to scratch nobody told nigeria to form loyal. The issue still boils down to the niger delta,give these guyz growth and development.nigeria will walk in economical growth the e.u and u.s will be beging to be our ally.

Ovamboland:
After making our country live in dark stone ages and industry un competitive may such gullible citizens now leave the country as economic refugees and in droves, and guess their destination,same countries burning huge tonnage of coal for power like China, India, South Africa, USA, UK
Does above scenario make any bit of sense? But that's our reality

pazienza:
Enugu Coal Must not be used.

Edo discovered coal in large amount not long ago. I'm sure that if extensive exploration is done in Ondo axis, more will be found there. And I think Kogi and Benue also have coal.

Blue3k:


Any reason why Enugu must not be used?

Ondo and Benue having it wouldn't be a shocking revelation.

Plenty of states have coal in Adamawa, Akwa Ibom, Bauchi, Cross River, Gombe, Kogi and Nassarawa.

Source: Nigeria’s Mining and Metal SectorInvestment Promotion BrochureAugust 2016

Ovamboland:
It's one of the most foolish decision of the Nigerian government to abandon coal as a reliable and cheap source of power. Unfortunately many gullible citizens without appreciating the issues involved also jumped into the clean environment debate.

After making our country live in dark stone ages and industry un competitive may such gullible citizens now leave the country as economic refugees and in droves, and guess their destination,same countries burning huge tonnage of coal for power like China, India, South Africa, USA, UK
Does above scenario make any bit of sense? But that's our reality today.

If the Niger Delta had been a peaceful region and we were able to harness other resources to give ourselves a better life than present then we can argue about leaving coal untapped. But just look at the number of Nigerians who will rather dare death by crossing the Sahara or the Mediterranean Sea in dingy boats than continue to live in their own country.
Many of such could have been employed if power was taken seriously by the country.

The problem of global warming is been felt by all countries whether they are burning coal or not. That means we are sharing in the punishment and not benefiting from the gains of burning coal. So why not contribute our quota of green house gases and have better life and respect from our fellow men. Why must we always fail when called for strategic thinking?

davidif:


Dude, coal is bad. If you think I am lying go to China and see the awful impact of coal on the society.

davidif:


Dude, coal is bad. If you think I am lying go to China and see the awful impact of coal on the society.

Blue3k:


Sounds very unnuanced. You're better than that. If you have proper subbed technology you mainly get trace heave metal particles per million, carbon and methane. China’s issue is the fact they use coal without pollution control standards.

Your arguement would be like saying oil is bad for Niger Delta commuity and nation as whole. The oil has raised standards of living and economic productivity. The issue in Niger Delta isn't oil but the fact they aren't controlling pollution. This is why rivers get bad for fishers then issue with bombers.

I would point out benefits of cheap energy but u know that already.

Ovamboland:


Do you know how many Nigerian's will apply for the China visa lottery if they start one?
Compare that to the number of Chinese who desire to become Nigerian citizen if invited.

Coal burning is one of the traceable reason for this reality. You guys still fail to appreciate the enormous dislocation lack of power is causing this country.

If salvation resides in Solar and other renewable, what do you think is stopping China that actually makes its own solar panels from closing it's coal power plants and replace them immediately with solar?
It is now us that knows not how to make anything that is now better placed to see the reliability of and cost effectiveness of solar? Have you done the analysis? Cost benefit ratio, reliability or it's just a hunch feeling?

Even USA with high income cannot do away with coal just like that. It was even a hot issue at the last general election.

LOL at Nigerian's who dream of becoming an industrial giant but are afraid of smoke and accident.

Poverty is a far worse affliction than pollution.

davidif:


Bros Nigeria does not have to be like the U.S. It can be a leader in green energy like the scandinavians are. Nigeria should be looking to be more like Denmark, Sweden and other countries with a higher standard of living and higher quality of life than the U.S.

A close friend of mine worked in China some years ago and while he was there his brother came to visit and he said when the brother went outside, he threw up because the atmosphere is so polluted it's not even funny. There is so much smug in a lot of Chinese cities so yes I will take clean breathable air over runaway "industrialization". Have you ever wondered the health issues that come with an extremely polluted environment? Do you even know what the health costs are? If you want to know them move to Mexico city and find out.


Bros one thing you would learn as you grow up is that all the money in the world is nothing without good health.
Health is wealth.

Ovamboland:

To be fair they should allow us develop to their level before curbing coal plants The alternative is for them to give us free panels as inventive to not burn coal.

baralatie:
unfortunately and fortunately you dont have a choice.Nigeria 2ru PMB signed a green pact to save the earth.in plain english you are Blocked from even building a coal fired station talk less of buying!

FSBoperator:
Typical yoruba op just like that prostitute woman from the tales of Solomon and the baby.

Since you are not allowed to drill our oil anyhow you want you now want to relegate the same oil that has fed you parasitic ingrates for over 50yrs.

Evil dark people these afonjas

Blue3k:


Man your comment is idiotic. You bigots always have victimhood mentality. Assume anyone that says anything u disagree with is tribe you dislike.

Btw what did I say to make oil states unproductive? Only a fool would agree industrialization and using coal to power country bad.