walls01:


this charms are given to man by spirits, they are more powerful than man. how can one without charm withstand bullets? what is the source of this charms? diabolical men are connected to the dark spirits.

I believe it's a myth,it is just a religious belief based on divine revelation,it is very difficult or impossible to understand or explain.I'm a deist and I believe there's a God but he is a mystery,spirits also are mysteries.Most of the stories,revelations,dreams etc we hear nowadays are nothing but hallucinations,heresy and "tales of the gods".Most of the religious leaders are the major culprits behind these conspiracies going on in the religious world.

montezz:

Egbami. The guy practices Judaism. Awon holier than thou.

Holier than thou? I hardly even go to church. Learn to read properly and quote meaningfully. Judaism and Christianity? Funny guy.

Unclerukus:
Holier than thou? I hardly even go to church. Learn to read properly and quote meaningfully. Judaism and Christianity? Funny guy.

Are you a christian or a muslim?can you explain more on being spiritually dead or ignorant,thank you.

How did this get to the front page Mr moderator the op is a professional confusionist well done sir

sirfee:
I believe it's a myth,it is just a religious belief based on divine revelation,it is very difficult or impossible to understand or explain.I'm a deist and I believe there's a God but he is a mystery,spirits also are mysteries.Most of the stories,revelations,dreams etc we hear nowadays are nothing but hallucinations,heresy and "tales of the gods".Most of the religious leaders are the major culprits behind these conspiracies going on in the religious world.

is not a myth, the religious leaders use it in favor of their selfish thoughts. more like a fraudulent person using a known system to defraud people.

charms are no myth, they are real. some have hallucinations others don't. in some cases I can foretell what will happen in the near future. I tell people before it happen so no one will say am hallucinating

Op must hav attended palmwine school like 'samankwe in the strange forest' to go on an oshogbo weed induced trance like this.

walls01:


is not a myth, the religious leaders use it in favor of their selfish thoughts. more like a fraudulent person using a known system to defraud people.

charms are no myth, they are real. some have hallucinations others don't. in some cases I can foretell what will happen in the near future. I tell people before it happen so no one will say am hallucinating

There is nothing so special in forecasting or predicting because prediction is just an "informed guess or opinion".I can call it gambling because the results are not always accurate or guaranteed.

Concerning the charms and spirits;you are already deviating because I stated clearly that they are mysteries which means they might be real or fiction,nobody is fully sure or certain about that because mysteries are beyond human understanding.I refused to be fed with heresy,assumptions and "tales of the gods" because no one is omni potent and omni science(except God almighty).

In the religious school of thoughts;there is nothing like hallucination which is very wrong,even typhoid fever can make someone sees false vision and revelation.The religious folks want us to believe everything about them and their religions including their hoax doctrines and hypocrisy(no offence).

Few years back,some set of people came up with their evil and hoax agenda to deceive the public and to instigate turmoil and hatred in the religious world and beyond.I'm talking about the prophets of doom wandering around the world(especially here in Nigeria),they were brainwashing and misleading the masses all in the name of fake revelations and visions.

One even said he saw the late pope of the catholic church(John paul II),Michael Jackson etc in hell..is that not bullsh*t?The most annoying part is that some gullible religious bigots consumed and digested these gibberish and started applauding these scammers neglecting the truth and the facts.

Can you convince me to take this religion and its dictum/doctrines as the true way of life and the passage to eternal joy and rest.Can you convince me with facts and not assumptions,can you convince me to believe everything that comes out of this religion and it followers.For your information,I was born into a strong christian family/background(a catholic and a pentecostal) before I decided to adopt deism as my religion.

hotspec:
But wait, ao did u kno a.spirit has no characteristics of d physical body? Just curious

because the physical body harbours the spirit, something DIFFERENT from itself. Did u see that word? DIFFERENT!

sirfee:
Are you a christian or a muslim?can you explain more on being spiritual dead or ignorant,thank you.

I am a christian but I respect and tolerate people's view when it comes to religion, I feel there are different ways one can seek the face of God. I worship at home because Christianity in Nigeria is turning into a circus ( money, materialism and competition) and fake pastors everywhere.

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1- A person is spiritually dead when the aren't in touch with their spiritual environment and self (soul). A lot of people are born spiritually dead or dormant , it can be revived by getting involved in deep occult or religion. Spiritually alive people have certain gifts to do and experience things bordering on things you'd find ridiculous or borderline fictional. Gifts like trance (soul traveling), discernment, prophesy, healing, dreams and abilities to to use the third eye known as the spiritual eye on the forehead meant for seeing spiritual things ( usually activated through great level in occult or religion). Most people that have these gifts exploit it to become clerics claiming to be called by God. I personally have the gifts of dreams and discernment, sometimes I see things before they happen and can easily identify evil people, I don't know how i do it but I can.


2- Being spiritually ignorant is not understanding that there are both spiritual and physical parallel dimensions that exist in the universe. I once asked an Atheist friend of mine, " if a spiritual dimension doesn't exist, how can a dejavu be explained?" Fragments of your future seen years before the time, strange, isn't it? What science can explain that?. How is sleep paralysis attacks explained? It occurs only when you sleep face up ( It's safe to Say most scientists are atheists and would prove anything whether ridiculous or not to support their beliefs I.e evolution). How do you explain "juju"? I have seen where a young man was punched with a ring during a fight, his tongue became abnormally long like a dog's and he just jumped into the dirty gutter nearby to start drinking the contents. All this things all have spiritual undertones to them.

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Those are what I know on the subject.

smoking weed in this famine can very dangerous to health...

nairalandbuzz:


Oga, there is something called spiritual body and soul. When Jesus rose up, he appeared to His disciples in sspirit body... Did I mention he ate with them?

we have been confused so many times in the Bible , we know certain things in the scripture are not clear to us, yet we pretend we grasp it. That is called GULLIBILITY....!

walls01:


it is strange when we always mock what others feel. If I tell you this has happened to me you would say it happen in my head without any knowledge of how it happened

I am deeply sorry if my post sounds mockery.

plamonee:


Sorry, a human spirit look exactly as the human only that it's substance is different. In his account he side, his spirit took him which is consistent with account of people in bible days. Don't be too dismissive, God is still granting revelation even in our time. One thing is sure about all revelation it must lead you to Christ and deepen your knowledge of God. There is so much we do not know being restricted to only four dimensions. There's fifth,sixth,and seventh dimensions of knowledge available right now in Christ. But beloved all this things are granted when you have developed a relationship with holy spirit who made all this possible.

just like the spirits in movies ba? lets be very careful in admitting we understand the bible, cos most of it's content are spiritual happenings. Everything is never as it seems.

Incrizz:

Remember the story of Lazarus and The Rich Man in the book of Luke?

The Rich Man on earth was dead and still but in hell he could see, thirst, talk, feel.
He said he was thirsty!

hmmm..... a parable. It was a parable. A simple way to illustrate spiritual happenings in the beyond , for the benefit of very low spiritual sense of The listeners.

Unclerukus:
I am a christian but I respect and tolerate people's view when it comes to religion, I feel there are different ways one can seek the face of God. I worship at home because Christianity in Nigeria is turning into a circus ( money, materialism and competition) and fake pastors everywhere.

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1- A person is spiritually dead when the aren't in touch with their spiritual environment and self (soul). A lot of people are born spiritually dead or dormant , it can be revived by getting involved in deep occult or religion. Spiritually alive people have certain gifts to do and experience things bordering on things you'd find ridiculous or borderline fictional. Gifts like trance (soul traveling), discernment, prophesy, healing, dreams and abilities to to use the third eye known as the spiritual eye on the forehead meant for seeing spiritual things ( usually activated through great level in occult or religion). Most people that have these gifts exploit it to become clerics claiming to be called by God. I personally have the gifts of dreams and discernment, sometimes I see things before they happen and can easily identify evil people, I don't know how i do it but I can.


2- Being spiritually ignorant is not understanding that there are both spiritual and physical parallel dimensions that exist in the universe. I once asked an Atheist friend of mine, " if a spiritual dimension doesn't exist, how can a dejavu be explained?" Fragments of your future seen years before the time, strange, isn't it? What science can explain that?. How is sleep paralysis attacks explained? It occurs only when you sleep face up ( It's safe to Say most scientists are atheists and would prove anything whether ridiculous or not to support their beliefs I.e evolution). How do you explain "juju"? I have seen where a young man was punched with a ring during a fight, his tongue became abnormally long like a dog's and he just jumped into the dirty gutter nearby to start drinking the contents. All this things all have spiritual undertones to them.

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Those are what I know on the subject.

I really appreciate your comments because they are very relevant and you are also tolerant.But I have question for you,do you believe that sometimes what you see might be deceiving?do you believe that the spiritually alive people can also make mistakes sometimes?do you believe in hallucinations?

Thank you.

Melchizedek1:
My spirit took hold of my soul to a kingdom that wasn't bright but had a cloudy weather as if it wanted to rain, with lots of people without clothes in it, but weren't tormented. In the centre of that Kingdom was another small Kingdom that is fenced, painted with white paint, and they was light in it, the light was only in that fenced Kingdom. Those in the big Kingdom were walking round outside the fenced Kingdom naked, hoping to have access into it. I tried to look into the fenced kingdom to see if I can see people in there, then my spirit told my soul that I can't see them because am not there Lord.

I noticed that they was another Kingdom above me, then I tried to go up and have a look, I couldn't because the force was too heavy for me, so I retired to my spirit. When we got back to the earth, my spirit took my soul back to my body but refused to rest on it, instead he flew very high to the sky and looked at me then continued flying towards the moon, he went round the moon, got some light from it then started flying downwards with speed to where I was lying down, he grabbed me and flew upward a bit and then used the light he got from the moon which was in his mouth to make a circle like crown on my head, then he dropped my body and left with my soul back to the first Kingdom.

I tried once more to go upward and see the kingdom that was above me, this time I was able to fly up and stood at the gate, I had an object in my hand which was sharp like a weapon, I didn't know what to do with it because I knew that I wasn't going to fight. Suddenly I made a cut on my hand and my blood dropped, then I had access to that gate. I walked through and also flew through because I had wings like that of an angel. There were few buildings on that path, it was a path that kept moving upward, everything was white. I knew that some beings were there but I couldn't see them, then I asked my spirit then he replied as usual "you are not there lord" . I got to a place which seemed to be the far I could go, then my spirit went into one of the rooms leaving me behind, I tried to see what was happening in the room but I couldn't.

My spirit came out and we started going back, we goth to the gate then I looked back and saw that that Kingdom was only a pathway to another Kingdom. I thought that we were going home but my spirit took me and flew downwards through that first Kingdom, we flew deep down to a place of total darkness, it was another Kingdom, it was expanding and it's expansion was causing the giant stones to crack, which gave fire in some path of that Kingdom, the inhabitants were slaves, working to cover up the fire, the more they try to cover up the fire the more they had more fire break out because of the continuous expansion. I saw a big black spirit with wings lying down, I wasn't comfortable with the darkness and atmosphere, then I decided to leave, we flew through the first Kingdom, back to my body.

. You sure reads books that painted this image in your mind, which eventually reflected in your dream

Melchizedek1:
This has nothing to do with drugs, I don't do drugs. You may not understand it until you visits there, you may not come back if you aren't opportuned. This is purely spiritual and not religious.

Please tell me more

BrightEye:


we have been confused so many times in the Bible , we know certain things in the scripture are not clear to us, yet we pretend we grasp it. That is called GULLIBILITY....!

GULLIBILITY is you not understanding it... I understand it very well and I am a cast reader of scripture and other publications... So go and sit down... I am not confused by the bible and if you are confused, come out of your confusion and start reading the bible the way it is meant to be read word for word... its the simplest book to understand and you can stoop so low....

like if u think op is high on extraterrestrial weed,share if u think he was just released from YABA LEFT

LIKE IF U THINK OP IS HIGH ON EXTRATERRESTRIAL WEED,SHARE IF U THINK HE WAS JUST RELEASED FROM YABA LEFT....

sirfee:
There is nothing so special in forecasting or predicting because prediction is just an "informed guess or opinion".I can call it gambling because the results are not always accurate or guaranteed.

Concerning the charms and spirits;you are already deviating because I stated clearly that they are mysteries which means they might be real or fiction,nobody is fully sure or certain about that because mysteries are beyond human understanding.I refused to be fed with heresy,assumptions and "tales of the gods" because no one is omni potent and omni science(except God almighty).

In the religious school of thoughts;there is nothing like hallucination which is very wrong,even typhoid fever can make someone sees false vision and revelation.The religious folks want us to believe everything about them and their religions including their hoax doctrines and hypocrisy(no offence).

Few years back,some set of people came up with their evil and hoax agenda to deceive the public and to instigate turmoil and hatred in the religious world and beyond.I'm talking about the prophets of doom wandering around the world(especially here in Nigeria),they were brainwashing and misleading the masses all in the name of fake revelations and visions.

One even said he saw the late pope of the catholic church(John paul II),Michael Jackson etc in hell..is that not bullsh*t?The most annoying part is that some gullible religious bigots consumed and digested these gibberish and started applauding these scammers neglecting the truth and the facts.

Can you convince me to take this religion and its dictum/doctrines as the true way of life and the passage to eternal joy and rest.Can you convince me with facts and not assumptions,can you convince me to believe everything that comes out of this religion and it followers.For your information,I was born into a strong christian family/background(a catholic and a pentecostal) before I decided to adopt deism as my religion.

I was ones an atheist myself. as am talking to you I don't attend churches. one day in my bold self a being spoke to me I turn around but so no one,the voice told me if am that intelligent I should explain how the universe come to been.

later that night I saw myself speaking to someone I can't see arguing that pastors are preaching different things and different denominations confusing the people, I asked which one is correct. he stretch is hand and gave me the Bible.

as I study something in my head help me explain, I discover that more than 90% of what this pastors teach is wrong.
this is a long story but to cut it Short if you rely on happenings in the world your heart will be offended

take for instance evolution theory, a theory based on assumptions and without proof taking generally as law

sirfee:
There is nothing so special in forecasting or predicting because prediction is just an "informed guess or opinion".I can call it gambling because the results are not always accurate or guaranteed.

Concerning the charms and spirits;you are already deviating because I stated clearly that they are mysteries which means they might be real or fiction,nobody is fully sure or certain about that because mysteries are beyond human understanding.I refused to be fed with heresy,assumptions and "tales of the gods" because no one is omni potent and omni science(except God almighty).

In the religious school of thoughts;there is nothing like hallucination which is very wrong,even typhoid fever can make someone sees false vision and revelation.The religious folks want us to believe everything about them and their religions including their hoax doctrines and hypocrisy(no offence).

Few years back,some set of people came up with their evil and hoax agenda to deceive the public and to instigate turmoil and hatred in the religious world and beyond.I'm talking about the prophets of doom wandering around the world(especially here in Nigeria),they were brainwashing and misleading the masses all in the name of fake revelations and visions.

One even said he saw the late pope of the catholic church(John paul II),Michael Jackson etc in hell..is that not bullsh*t?The most annoying part is that some gullible religious bigots consumed and digested these gibberish and started applauding these scammers neglecting the truth and the facts.

Can you convince me to take this religion and its dictum/doctrines as the true way of life and the passage to eternal joy and rest.Can you convince me with facts and not assumptions,can you convince me to believe everything that comes out of this religion and it followers.For your information,I was born into a strong christian family/background(a catholic and a pentecostal) before I decided to adopt deism as my religion.

I was ones an atheist myself. as am talking to you I don't attend churches. one day in my bold self a being spoke to me I turn around but so no one,the voice told me if am that intelligent I should explain how the universe come to been.

later that night I saw myself speaking to someone I can't see arguing that pastors are preaching different things and different denominations confusing the people, I asked which one is correct. he stretch is hand and gave me the Bible.

as I study something in my head help me explain, I discover that more than 90% of what this pastors teach is wrong.
this is a long story but to cut it Short if you rely on happenings in the world your heart will be offended

take for instance evolution theory, a theory based on assumptions and without proof taking generally as law

Op please do you practice lucid dreaming or OBE. I would like to know.

walls01:




I was ones an atheist myself. as am talking to you I don't attend churches. one day in my bold self a being spoke to me I turn around but so no one,the voice told me if am that intelligent I should explain how the universe come to been.

later that night I saw myself speaking to someone I can't see arguing that pastors are preaching different things and different denominations confusing the people, I asked which one is correct. he stretch is hand and gave me the Bible.

as I study something in my head help me explain, I discover that more than 90% of what this pastors teach is wrong.
this is a long story but to cut it Short if you rely on happenings in the world your heart will be offended

take for instance evolution theory, a theory based on assumptions and without proof taking generally as law

Yes I agree with you on this one,thanks and good night.

sirfee:
Yes I agree with you on this one,thanks and good night.

thanks

BrightEye:


hmmm..... a parable. It was a parable. A simple way to illustrate spiritual happenings in the beyond , for the benefit of very low spiritual sense of The listeners.

Are all these verses parables too, because I can read that a "spiritual" Angel stretched forth his hands??

Revelation 5:11-12; 7:11 -12; 19:1-2. ... "And when the angel stretched out His hand over Jerusalem to destroy it....."

Incrizz:


Are all these verses parables too, because I can read that a "spiritual" Angel stretched forth his hands??

Revelation 5:11-12; 7:11 -12; 19:1-2. ... "And when the angel stretched out His hand over Jerusalem to destroy it....."

They are all parables and well coded but only the deep can understand. You think It is the city of Jerusalem? absolute Nope. Revelation is the most coded book in the Bible.

Babacele:
They are all parables and well coded but only the deep can understand. You think It is the city of Jerusalem? absolute Nope. Revelation is the most coded book in the Bible.

That's so clear..

But I was talking about the Angel.
The same way spiritual beings have been described in the Bible, has Op's dream been illustrated.