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Yup! Strange topic, but please work with me. In the midst of all these Apostle Suleiman nonsense, I know few people will have time for this, but still I crave your indulgence on this. I am a Christian! A very open minded christian (even if our Muslim brothers won't agree) so I have been trying to know what it is about Islam that is so wonderful to our Muslim brothers and sisters. I have read parts of the Koran, I have watched videos on YouTube from Muslim scholars ( Zakir Naik comes to mind, but to be honest, he isn't very bright. Off topic, in a video I watched Naik say a theory and a hypothesis are the same! Even someone in SS1 would know this is wrong and he is regarded as Islam's best debater). Back to our topic though, so I have done my little research on Islam when I had the time and I came up with something brilliant from a Hadith.
Sahih Muslim 6621: Abu Abyyas Ansari reported that Allah's messenger said, If you were not to commit sins, Allah would have swept you out of existence and would have replaced you by another people who committed sin and then asked forgiveness from Allah, and He would have granted them pardon.
Sahih Muslim 6622: Abu Huraira reported Allah's messenger having said, by Him whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them.
Now from these two quoted passages, Allah would destroy us for not sinning. And replace us with people who will sin so they can ask for forgiveness and he can forgive them. So if we were not sinning, Allah would have destroyed us. Luckily for us, we have been sinning. So you have to ask, why have we been sinning? Let's take a look at the Koran.
Koran 2: 35-36 :And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers." But Satan caused them to slip out of it and removed them from that [condition] in which they had been. And We said, "Go down, [all of you], as enemies to one another, and you will have upon the earth a place of settlement and provision for a time."
So according to the Koran, Satan made Adam and his wife sin. And according to Mohammed, you need to sin or Allah would destroy you. So basically, Adam and eve would have been destroyed if Satan hadn't made them sin. So Satan actually saved Adam and eve from Allah's destruction. As humans, we all sin! You know why? Satan!
Koran 15 : 39 : [Iblees] said, "My Lord, because You have put me in error, I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all.
In case you are wondering, Iblees is Satan.
So what logical conclusion do you get from this? Satan saves us all from Allah by making us to sin.
There is only one person who didn't sin according to Christian and Muslim sources. Jesus. If Allah wants us to sin then Allah would be angry at those who refuses to sin. So I guess Allah's greatest nemesis would be Jesus.
But yet our Muslim brothers and sisters claim to love Jesus and hate Satan when Satan is actually the one saving us from Allah's destruction.
Is Satan just misunderstood? I plead with you all, do not turn this into another religious keyboard battle, I just need a logical explanation to clear this confusion up so I can continue with my study. Thank you.

Satan is the master of deceit and confusion. And he's work is to 'hinder people from entering Heaven.'

or does someone dare to say 'save people from heaven' in rhetoric to your question

MrPRevailer:
Satan is the master of deceit and confusion. And he's work is to 'hinder people from entering Heaven.'

or does someone dare to say 'save people from heaven' in rhetoric to your question

I don't understand how this answers the question.

ilynem:
I don't understand how this answers the question.

Do you realise it's difficult to understand your question?

MrPRevailer:
Do you realise it's difficult to understand your question?

I don't think so. Your Hadith says we need to sin or Allah will wipe us out. Satan makes us sin. Does it mean Satan is saving us from Allah? Comprende?