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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by lionel4power(m): 8:35pm On Mar 18, 2017
nemesis2u:
The first test launch of the new North Korean solid-fuel medium-range ballistic missile Pukguksong 2 ( "Pukkykson-2"wink with self-propelled launcher.

nice hair cut mr.kim got by the way grin grin grin grin
cold launch.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by lionel4power(m): 9:33pm On Mar 18, 2017
nemesis2u:
https://www.military-today.com/navy/type_056_class_corvette_l9.jpg

The Type 056 (Western reporting name: Jiangdao) is a mass-produced corvette class intended for operations both close to and far away from the shore. These corvettes can be used for a number of different missions.


https://www.military-today.com/navy/type_056_class_corvette_l10.jpg


Variants


P18: export model of the Type 056 with somewhat larger dimensions. Armament, however, appears to be essentially the same. The P18 itself has two different sub variants, the C13B and P18N, depending on the country. So far, four P18’s have already been exported—two to Bangladesh and two to Nigeria. Another is in production for Nigeria as well. In addition, Kazakhstan and Argentina have considered buying P18’s. The P18 has an estimated cost of $50 million.


https://www.military-today.com/navy/type_056_class_corvette_l11.jpg
well to avoid misleading the general public, the Nigerian version does not have any noticeable anti ship or anti air missile launch tube, neither does any VLS tube present in the hull although other non warfare equipment was installed such as an oil spill management suite. The P18n is an opv and is armed as such.

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no picture or proof has ever surfaced online showing the p18n spotting any offensive weapon system other than her naval guns. please correct your post
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by andrewza: 9:04am On Mar 19, 2017
lionel4power:
well to avoid misleading the general public, the Nigerian version does not have any noticeable anti ship or anti air missile launch tube, neither does any VLS tube present in the hull although other non warfare equipment was installed such as an oil spill management suite. The P18n is an opv and is armed as such.

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no picture or proof has ever surfaced online showing the p18n spotting any offensive weapon system other than her naval guns. please correct your post
Haven got a close look at them i can say with out a doubt no missile are fitted. Though this is not a issue south africa puts boat davits on our missle decks.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:31pm On Mar 19, 2017
lionel4power:
well to avoid misleading the general public, the Nigerian version does not have any noticeable anti ship or anti air missile launch tube, neither does any VLS tube present in the hull although other non warfare equipment was installed such as an oil spill management suite. The P18n is an opv and is armed as such.

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no picture or proof has ever surfaced online showing the p18n spotting any offensive weapon system other than her naval guns. please correct your post
1st my post was about Type 056 corvettes of which p18n is a derivative , i have not explicitly stated anything relating to armaments of the p18n .

2nd when it comes to classification, global norm is to follow the OEM classification rather than local classification. so when reporting on Type 056 or its variants , people will generally classify it as corvettes , and if necessary as follow through mention its local classification eg. in Nigerian navy case OPV.

so ur claim of me saying anything regarding armaments of p18n is untrue and unsubstantiated,as my post was explicitly about Type 056 corvettes .

but ur free to post any additional info if u want.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:58pm On Mar 19, 2017
nemesis2u:
1st my post was about Type 056 corvettes of which p18n is a derivative , i have not explicitly stated anything relating to armaments of the p18n .

2nd when it comes to classification, global norm is to follow the OEM classification rather than local classification. so when reporting on Type 056 or its variants , people will generally classify it as corvettes , and if necessary as follow through mention its local classification eg. in Nigerian navy case OPV.

so ur claim of me saying anything regarding armaments of p18n is untrue and unsubstantiated,as my post was explicitly about Type 056 corvettes .

but ur free to post any additional info if u want.
I suspect Lionel might've been responding to this:

Variants

P18: export model of the Type 056 with somewhat larger dimensions. Armament, however, appears to be essentially the same.
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:46pm On Mar 19, 2017
frumentius:
I suspect Lionel might've been responding to this:
when i said "Armament, however, appears to be essentially the same" it was to be understood that (at least i was expecting) the readers to
understand it was a generalized statement since C13B is outfitted similarly like type 056 corvette unlike P18N.

if some alien comments humans wear bras and panties , would anybody be nit picking whether the aliens meant the males or the females of the human species .
it is kind of obivious isnt it . grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:32am On Mar 20, 2017
LCA MK1

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:41am On Mar 20, 2017
LCA MK1....

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:48am On Mar 20, 2017
grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by andrewza: 7:36am On Mar 20, 2017
nemesis2u:
when i said "Armament, however, appears to be essentially the same" it was to be understood that (at least i was expecting) the readers to
understand it was a generalized statement since C13B is outfitted similarly like type 056 corvette unlike P18N.

if some alien comments humans wear bras and panties , would anybody be nit picking whether the aliens meant the males or the females of the human species .
it is kind of obivious isnt it . grin
It still a incorect statment.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:57pm On Mar 20, 2017
andrewza:
It still a incorect statment.
yeah
unfortunately it is smiley
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:19pm On Mar 20, 2017
name the country/company which developed this air launched cruise missile grin

answer is very interesting grin grin grin grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 7:36pm On Mar 20, 2017
nemesis2u:
name the country/company which developed this air launched cruise missile grin

answer is very interesting grin grin grin grin
Pakistan
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:39pm On Mar 20, 2017
iblawi:
Pakistan
no grin

i asked who developed it , and not the end user

hint : Africa
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 7:41pm On Mar 20, 2017
nemesis2u:
no grin

hint : Africa
Algeria
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:46pm On Mar 20, 2017
iblawi:
Algeria
no grin

another hint : mirage iii (or derivatives)
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m):
nemesis2u:
no grin

another hint : mirage iii (or derivatives)
South Africa. They used the cheetah.

Torgos air launched cruise missile.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody:
iblawi:
Maybe South Africa.
it was developed by south africa and the company involved was denel.

this was developed for use with the south african Atlas Cheetah the derivative of mirage iii.

this was later sold to a particular foreign country (as the south african mirage / derivatives were retired ) who uses it now , given that nations mirage iii aircraft's were already qualified to carry/fire the ALCM.

this was possible because the ALCM mechanical and electrical interfaces are specific to the mirage iii aircraft's only.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 8:17pm On Mar 20, 2017
Air launched cruise missile

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 8:31pm On Mar 20, 2017
nemesis2u:
it was developed by south africa and the company involved was denel.

this was developed for use with the south african Atlas Cheetah the derivative of mirage iii.

this was later sold to a particular foreign country (as the south african mirage / derivatives were retired ) who uses it now , given that nations mirage iii aircraft's r already qualified to carry/fire the ALCM.

this was possible because the ALCM mechanical and electrical interfaces are specific to the mirage iii aircraft's only.

this happened in the 90s.
Why did they redesign it?

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:34pm On Mar 20, 2017
iblawi:
Air launched cruise missile
IMO the 2 ALCM r different (structural dissimilarity is visible) but we dont know about the sub-systems inside but one thing is sure their developer is same
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by iblawi(m): 8:37pm On Mar 20, 2017
nemesis2u:
IMO the 2 ALCM r different (structural dissimilarity is visible) but we dont know about the sub-systems inside but one thing is sure their developer is same
Nice 1.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:40pm On Mar 20, 2017
US army green berets testing exoskeleton system

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody:
iblawi:
Why did they redesign it?
TARGOS is a earlier version, while the ALCM i posted came later with design changes

TARGOS never became operational (my personal opinion, to avoid being roasted later grin)

similarly

south african denel Raptor 1 become that specific nation's H-2 SOW (stand off weapon)

south african denel Raptor 2 become that specific nation's H-4 SOW (stand off weapon)


denel was very busy in south asia at one point of time grin grin

it still is,
supplying all the parts for their final assembly grin grin grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:55am On Mar 21, 2017
grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:36am On Mar 21, 2017
hack for testing airborne radars

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:42am On Mar 21, 2017
iblawi:
Algeria
huh undecided huh undecided
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:27pm On Mar 21, 2017
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:31pm On Mar 21, 2017
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 4:37pm On Mar 21, 2017
nemesis2u:
it was developed by south africa and the company involved was denel.

this was developed for use with the south african Atlas Cheetah the derivative of mirage iii.

this was later sold to a particular foreign country (as the south african mirage / derivatives were retired ) who uses it now , given that nations mirage iii aircraft's were already qualified to carry/fire the ALCM.

this was possible because the ALCM mechanical and electrical interfaces are specific to the mirage iii aircraft's only.
There was no funding for these projects. Similar to the Small guided missile they proposed.

The Cheetahs were retired later in 2008.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:53pm On Mar 21, 2017
MikeCZA:
There was no funding for these projects. Similar to the Small guided missile they proposed.

The Cheetahs were retired later in 2008.
yes

by the way IMO reduction of threat/threat perception has stunted to some extent the south african defence industry.

south african arms industry specifically its exploits/innovation in land warfare system was part of our curriculum.
mention must be made of the Rhodesian's input.
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