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African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by jameseva: 7:15pm On Mar 19, 2017
Each year, the University of Southern California brings delegations from Africa to meet with business leaders, government officials and others in the U.S. But this year, the African summit has no Africans. All were denied visas.

Visa issues are not uncommon for people traveling from African nations. During her prior three summits, Mary Flowers saw a high percentage of her attendees at the African Global Economic and Development Summit, unable to attain visas.

"Usually we get 40 percent that get rejected but the others come," said Flowers, chair of the African Global Economic and Development Summit. "This year it was 100 percent. Every delegation. And it was sad to see, because these people were so disheartened."

Flowers estimated that she lost about 100 attendees, including speakers and government officials. The countries affected included Sierra Leone, Guinea, Ghana, Nigeria, Ethiopia and South Africa.

'A discrimination issue'

"I have to say that most of us feel it's a discrimination issue with the African nations," said Flowers. "We experience it over and over and over, and the people being rejected are legitimate business people with ties to the continent."

A request for comment from the State Department was not immediately returned.

Flowers said those who were denied visas were called for embassy interviews just days before they were supposed to travel, despite having applied weeks or even months ahead of time.

One of those denied a visa was Prince Kojo Hilton, a Ghanaian artist whose work includes special effects and graphic art. He paid his $500 fee to attend the event and was asked to lead a session on filmmaking. But he held off buying his plane ticket until his appointment at the embassy on March 13, four days before he was supposed to travel.

"I was really disappointed when I went to the embassy," Hilton said in an interview with VOA.

Travel ban

It remains unclear why all of the Africans heading to the event were denied visas this year.

Diane E. Watson, who formerly represented a Los Angeles-area district in Congress, said she had called the State Department to ask for information about the denial of visas for would-be delegates to the USC summit. But the State Department isn't allowed to discuss individual visa cases.

With the heightened attention on foreign nationals coming to the U.S., there have been stories of more visas being denied to people from countries other than those named in the Trump administration's executive orders. But visas are routinely denied by U.S. embassies without explanation.

If there has been an increase in the number of visas rejected under the new administration, it's hard to verify. The publicly available State Department data dates only to late 2016.

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/www.voanews.com/amp/3770907.html

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by HungerBAD: 7:22pm On Mar 19, 2017
Lol

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by DLondonboiy: 7:24pm On Mar 19, 2017
Eyaa

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by jameseva: 7:25pm On Mar 19, 2017
Even Valve has threatened to move Dota 2 and other video game tournaments out of the US because of the visa crackdown:

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/9/14571570/dota-2-international-tournament-visas-trump-immigration

Not to mention the drop in tourists to the US because of Trump. Anyone that still doesnt see that Trump is destroying America, day by day is either completely retarded or lives in an alternate reality.

Note: DOTA tourny is one of the largest sporting events in the US. It makes long standing sports like golf and tennis look pretty pathetic in some respects. It has tens of millions of viewers, tens of millions of players and the prize is in the tens of millions of USD

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by Horus(m): 8:36pm On Mar 19, 2017
An African business summit should be organised in Africa, not in the US

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by jameseva: 8:51pm On Mar 19, 2017
Horus:
An African business summit should be organised in Africa, not in the US

You didnt read the part where the article said.. The summit is to get investors to come invest in africa, did you?

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by DerideGull(m): 9:12pm On Mar 19, 2017
jameseva:
There were reportedly no African delegates at a summit about sustainable development in Africa after they were all denied visas to enter the US.

The African global economic and development summit, which takes place every year at the University of Southern California was particularly quiet this year after about 100 attendees were barred from entering the country to participate in the event.

The summit aims to encourage businesses to invest in Africa and particularly to support initiative to provide clean energy, tackle the impacts of climate change and reduce poverty.

Mary Flowers, who chairs the summit said:

“I have to say that most of us feel it’s a discrimination issue with the African nations. We experience it over and over and over, and the people being rejected are legitimate business people with ties to the continent.”

Among the people, who were not allowed to attend the event were speakers and government officials from Sierra Leone, Guinea, Ghana, Nigeria, Ethiopia and South Africa.

Source - [url][/url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/african-development-summit-univerrsity-southern-california-cancelled-african-delegates-denied-us-a7637696.html

Who in his/her right senses staged the African global economic and development summit in USA? What happened to the African countries?

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by jameseva: 9:34pm On Mar 19, 2017
DerideGull:


Who in his/her right senses staged the African global economic and development summit in USA? What happened to the African countries?

Africans that are smart enough to know that foreign investments are needed in their respective countries to grow their economies?

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by rozayx5(m): 9:46pm On Mar 19, 2017
i dont blame trump


we make america look special when they are not

Americans are also visiting Dubai cause some people down east put on their thinking cap

All these useless conferences do not add anything to development but a means to waste scarce resources

African Govts should form stronger Integrative frameworks and develop themselves

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by Horus(m): 1:32am On Mar 20, 2017
jameseva:


You didnt read the part where the article said.. The summit is to get investors to come invest in africa, did you?

Yes I did; They should simply do the summit in Africa to attracti investors in Africa

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by ojlifa: 2:03am On Mar 20, 2017
May God bless you


Horus:
An African business summit should be organised in Africa, not in the US

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by Moving4: 2:08am On Mar 20, 2017
Wat is wrong wit America! Wat nonsense!?

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by BigIyanga: 2:08am On Mar 20, 2017
DerideGull:


Who in his/her right senses staged the African global economic and development summit in USA? What happened to the African countries?
Cos Summit organizers are wooing US investors to come to Africa. Go and ask GMB, GEJ, OBJ andco when they attended such conferences.

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by ojlifa: 2:30am On Mar 20, 2017
when you want to invest in something,you go there and take a first hand look.


jameseva:


You didnt read the part where the article said.. The summit is to get investors to come invest in africa, did you?

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by CharleyCharley: 4:16am On Mar 20, 2017
rozayx5:
i dont blame trump


we make america look special when they are not

They are not? Really? grin

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by omowolewa: 4:43am On Mar 20, 2017
They should keep their traveling fees in Africa.
Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by davidif: 4:45am On Mar 20, 2017
ojlifa:
when you want to invent in something,you go there and take a face hand look.



Wrong! You don't take a girl to meet your mom on the first date do you? You get to know them first then figure out if you even want to go out on a second date with them. You see that's how the business world works. You first listen to the proposition about what they are selling then you decide if you want to know more. You don't just get on a plane and fly to some continent looking for business ventures. If Rwandans want me to come and invest in there country. They will have to convince me first before I even consider taking a flight there. This is how business is usually done. Not everyone is willing to just take a plane and fly halfway across the world for a summit when they have other things to do. This is just an introductory 'get to know you' kind of thing.

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by davidif: 4:48am On Mar 20, 2017
Horus:


Yes I did; They should simply do the summit in Africa to attracti investors in Africa

You don't take a girl to meet your mom on the first date do you? You get to know them first then figure out if you even want to ask them out on a second date. You see that's how the business world works. You first listen to the proposition about what you are selling to you then after the presentation, you can decide If you want to know more. If Rwandans want me to come and invest in there country. They will have to convince me very well first before I even consider taking a flight there. This is how business is usually done. Not everyone is willing to just take a plane and fly halfway across the world for a summit when they probably have other things to do. This is just an introductory 'get to know you' kind of thing not let's meet your parents kind of thing.

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by davidif: 5:02am On Mar 20, 2017
DerideGull:


Who in his/her right senses staged the African global economic and development summit in USA? What happened to the African countries?

When you need someone's help you go meet them they don't come and meet you.

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by jameseva: 10:31am On Mar 20, 2017
davidif:


You don't take a girl to meet your mom on the first date do you? You get to know them first then figure out if you even want to ask them out on a second date. You see that's how the business world works. You first listen to the proposition about what you are selling to you then after the presentation, you can decide If you want to know more. If Rwandans want me to come and invest in there country. They will have to convince me very well first before I even consider taking a flight there. This is how business is usually done. Not everyone is willing to just take a plane and fly halfway across the world for a summit when they probably have other things to do. This is just an introductory 'get to know you' kind of thing not let's meet your parents kind of thing.

Brain dey your head joor wink

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by austinvsb1(m): 10:36am On Mar 20, 2017
The ones i pity the most are those still actively wasting visa fees at US embassy. Even europeans are avoiding america!

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by shukuokukobambi: 10:39am On Mar 20, 2017
cheesy cheesy cheesy

And some unfortunate sods died protesting in solidarity with the African-hater some few weeks ago cheesy

I hope their family members were compensated with visa for life by Trump? cheesy

Let me go and listen to Trump's affectionate call to Buhari abeg cheesy

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by ttmacoy: 10:40am On Mar 20, 2017
Your logic here is wrong because it was organised by Mary Flowers to help American companies recognise the investment opportunities in Africa.

She is the head of the consulting company Global Green Development Group and also the head of the USC Black Alumni Association hence why only those 2 organisations are sponsoring it.

if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?

They were probably refused the visa because the organisations don't seem to have much merit and also probably past attendees 40% of whom were refused ended up doing a runner or didn't even attend the summit at all.

Go and look at the website below. Her objective is to help US companies see investment opportunities in Africa so why doesn't she take them to Africa where they can meet a lot more small businesses who cant afford to fly to America and who need investment?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

This so called summit is supposed to be in it's 3rd or 4th year yet we can't see any photos videos reviews of past summits, attendees or speakers. We have no clue who is speaking at this event which was cancelled and it is for 3 days. See below website for another submit and see how they have a program with speakers and topics etc? Are you telling me you will really pay for a summit where you have no idea who is speaking or what topics they will be talking about? No idea what investors, companies etc. will be attending? Such events will put on their websites the companies they are expecting etc. to sell the event.

http://www.ccausafricasummit.com/

And for all US embassies in all the African countries to deny all invites it must mean that summit has been blacklisted for previous visa abuse or there are concerns about the summit.

The summit website is just one page, no links, nothing just one page. The text they have under climate change etc. is copy and paste from the UN publication on climate change.

Then from climate change they talk about Iroko investment which is another copy and paste but no idea why as it has nothing to do with this summit. All they have done is just come up with random topics, copy and paste existing publications from Google and say summit. God knows how much they charged for this. I couldn't check because registration is closed.




davidif:


When you need someone's help you go meet them they don't come and meet you.

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by naijarates2017: 10:50am On Mar 20, 2017
Oh mama Africa.
Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by austinvsb1(m): 10:55am On Mar 20, 2017
No dude.. Your logic is the very wrong one here. Its sensationalism at best. You want investors in your business? you meet them and highlight several reasons why they should consider investing in your business (country) and not several other businesses (other countries) available.

You really expect me as an investor with loads of options and cash to move my fat ass out of my country to help an economy when those that needed help never came to me in the first place? You dey use juju??


ttmacoy:
Your logic here is wrong because it was organised by Mary Flowers to help American companies recognise the investment opportunities in Africa.

She is the head of the consulting company Global Green Development Group and also the head of the USC Black Alumni Association hence why only those 2 organisations are sponsoring it.

if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?

They were probably refused the visa because the organisations don't see to have much merit and also probably past attendees 40% of whom were refused ended up doing a runner or didn't even attend the summit at all.

Go and look at the website below. Her objective is to help US companies see investment opportunities in Africa so why doesn't she take them to Africa where they can meet a lot more small businesses who cant afford to fly to America and who need investment?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

This so called summit is supposed to be in it's 3rd or 4th year yet we can't see any photos videos reviews of past summits, attendees or speakers. We have no clue who is speaking at this event which was cancelled and it is for 2 days. See below website for another submit and see how they have a program with speakers and topics etc?

http://www.ccausafricasummit.com/

And for all US embassies in all the African countries to deny all invites it must mean that summit has been blacklisted for previous visa abuse or there are concerns about the summit.





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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by austinvsb1(m): 10:58am On Mar 20, 2017
shukuokukobambi:
cheesy cheesy cheesy

And some unfortunate sods died protesting in solidarity with the African-hater some few weeks ago cheesy

I hope their family members were compensated with visa for life by Trump? cheesy

Let me go and listen to Trump's affectionate call to Buhari abeg cheesy


All the smart people are saying this.. So it must be true cool. The very best visa for life folks shocked theee best cheesy So terrific! grin

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by Emassive(m): 11:00am On Mar 20, 2017
Good move. They will just pollute the place with recession
Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by ttmacoy: 11:02am On Mar 20, 2017
I disagree, if as she says Africa is a hot bed of investment opportunities yes I expect investors if they are interested to move their fat asses. Many of the so called African businesses are small and cant afford the expenses to fly aboard and if an investor comes to Africa he has access to meet a lot more African businesses than they coming over.

And even if they want to hold it in America which isn't bad the website is so poor and it is pretty much being organised by one woman Mary Flowers who works for the consulting company and heads the black alumni association at USC. No evidence of past events, no program of speakers and topics, no list of partners and expected investor attendees nothing at all.

http://www.energynet.co.uk/event/powering-africa-summit-2017

Look at that link for the US Africa energy summit and DC and compare.

all you have to do is copy and paste some text from the site to Google and you can see the source where it was copied from. The text on climate change is from the UN factsheet on climate change copy and pasted.

The section on iRoko is from Forbes copy and paste. Please look at it from the visa officers view.

For all US embassies in those African countries to deny all invitees don't you think the event has been blacklisted?

austinvsb1:


No dude.. Your logic is the very wrong one here. Its sensationalism at best. You want investors in your business? you meet them and highlight several reasons why they should consider investing in your business (country) and not several other businesses (other countries) available.

You really expect me as an investor with loads of options and cash to move my fat ass out of my country to help an economy when those that needed help never came to me in the first place? You dey use juju??

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by austinvsb1(m): 11:23am On Mar 20, 2017
Like I said, the foreign investors part coming to africa instead of african businesses going up there to woo them is complete sensationalism at best. In a fair world, it should probably be that way but Reality dictates otherwise. That is the truth and you know it.

I do not work as and neither do i know a visa officer, I am thus very unfamiliar with their genuinity screening procedures. I can only react based on what i read off independent news (which as you may well know is a fantastic and reputable news firm) that this event has been an ongoing annual one. While I agree that your stated arguments could be a reason for visa denial, I still would not rule out the possibility of discrimination against the African nations. A situation that has has increased significantly in the last few months as confirmed by Dabiri Abike (senior special assistant on foreign affairs and diaspora)

Could it be because it is an event organised by the head of Black Alumni association? And please don't act like you are totally unaware of the unprecedented increase in anti-immigration actions and stance of the USA since 45 became president. Not everything is written in ink and paper. Even Canadians are cancelling previously planned trips to the USA in droves.

Below are a few articles to read through should you be wondering about my claim about trump's discriminatory & anti-immigration stance and the corresponding effects on US tourism and economy:

http://time.com/money/4687114/trump-slump-foreign-tourism-us-immigration-travel/

http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/27/trumps-travel-ban-is-already-affecting-u

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/feb/28/us-tourism-experiences-a-trump-slump


ttmacoy:
I disagree, if as she says Africa is a hot bed of investment opportunities yes I expect investors if they are interested to move their fat asses. Many of the so called African businesses are small and cant afford the expenses to fly aboard and if an investor comes to Africa he has access to meet a lot more African businesses than they coming over.

And even if they want to hold it in America which isn't bad the website is so poor and it is pretty much being organised by one woman Mary Flowers who works for the consulting company and heads the black alumni association at USC. No evidence of past events, no program of speakers and topics, no list of partners and expected investor attendees nothing at all.

http://www.energynet.co.uk/event/powering-africa-summit-2017

Look at that link for the US Africa energy summit and DC and compare.

all you have to do is copy and paste some text from the site to Google and you can see the source where it was copied from. The text on climate change is from the UN factsheet on climate change copy and pasted.

The section on iRoko is from Forbes copy and paste. Please look at it from the visa officers view.

For all US embassies in those African countries to deny all invitees don't you think the event has been blacklisted?

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Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by shukuokukobambi: 11:50am On Mar 20, 2017
austinvsb1:


All the smart people are saying this.. So it must be true cool. The very best visa for life folks shocked theee best cheesy So terrific! grin

I guess cheesy cheesy
Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by jameseva: 12:14pm On Mar 20, 2017
austinvsb1:


All the smart people are saying this.. So it must be true cool. The very best visa for life folks shocked theee best cheesy So terrific! grin

Dude you just killed me grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: African Business Summit In US has No African Delegates. Their Visas Were Denied by ttmacoy: 12:22pm On Mar 20, 2017
I did not say it is a fake event, but you will agree with me a poorly run event can be used by people to get visas falsely cant it. I know many many Nigerians who have applied for visas claiming conference or exhibition and run.

While it was run on the USC campus it was not run by USC but by the Black Alumni association so USC's reputation doesn't exactly cover this. I can hire a hall on USC campus that doesn't mean the reputation of USC guarantees my event is a good one.

Also why is there no evidence of past events if this was successfully run as claimed? Even the organiser said in the past the visa denials were high and if at this point every single invitee was denied then I would rather ask questions around the legitimacy of the event and from what I see on the internet if I was a visa officer I would be suspect. I will like to see proof of past event and attendees, I will see like to see speakers, programs, topics etc., I will like to see photos of past events if as you claim it is run by such a prestigious university.

Also we do not have any insight into what previous attendees to the events did when they go to the US so to conclude it is Trump is jumping the gun. Besides Trumps executive order is in plain English and clear, and aside that it is not effect anyway.

Why is there only 1 woman involved with both sponsors of the event. Mary Flowers is the head of the consulting company and the head of the Black Alumni association, no one else involved. Really??

austinvsb1:


Like I said, the foreign investors part coming to africa instead of african businesses going up there to woo them is complete sensationalism at best. In a fair world, it should probably be that way but Reality dictates otherwise. That is the truth and you know it.

About the website, while I agree that it doesnt look like the most professional one, i have no reason to believe its the reason for which their visas were denied. According to the information from independent news, this event has been a yearly one in the University of Southern California which i'm sure you will agree is a renowned and highly regarded location to host a 'fake' summit.

My best guess for all of this: Donald trump and his discriminatory policies

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