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Africans are really crazy. I don't think they know what they are doing. The conference ought to be held in Africa, not America. Because Americans don't want us to grow. There are a lot of things I want to say about the US negative impacts on our continent but would stop here for now. The Asians can't be so foolish to go to the US, even if they want to go, the embassy might have signed an agreement to issue visas to all of them.

So? they were denied visa. Have they not heard of Sykpe?

when a woman wants you she doesn't approach you,rather she presents herself in such a manner that invited you to approach. you want to jump the gun.you want investment you do not fly to the states you rather put together a world class event in your country which invites people to come see.

davidif:
Wrong! You don't take a girl to meet your mom on the first date do you? You get to know them first then figure out if you even want to go out on a second date. You see that's how the business world works. You first listen to the proposition about what you are selling them then decide If I want to know more. You don't just get on a plane and fly to some continent looking for business ventures. If Rwandans want me to come and invest in there country. They will have to convince me first before I even consider taking a flight there. This is how business is usually done. Not everyone is willing to just take a plane and fly halfway across the world for a summit whem they have other things to do. This is just an introductory 'get to know you' kind of thing.

ojlifa:
when a woman wants you she doesn't approach you,rather she presents herself in such a manner that invited you to approach. you want to jump the gun.you want investment you do not fly to the states you rather put together a world class event in your country which invites people to come see.

The question is how many people want to go to Africa in the first place? You think this is Monaco we are talking about? You think you can just convince some businesses to come to your country simply because you are "hosting a world class event?" You must have never worked in the corporate world before have you? cos if you have you would know that corporations don't like to waste there money until they know its a sure thing. You don't spend money on a trip to Africa unless you are at an advanced stage of talks to close a deal or something along those lines. Show me how many companies will be willing to let there staff just fly to some far flung corner of the globe on an all expenses paid trip without first knowing about the place? Not only are they going to missing out on work but they are going to be on the hook if anything bad happens to him.

This is a 'get to know you' kind of summit. A networking kind of thing like a career fair where a company comes to campus to sell themselves to students and to possibly conduct interviews on site. If they like You they can then fly you out to there facility for another round of interviews type stuff.

If this where done in Africa maybe one or two big companies might be willing to send one or two employees there on a meet and greet but I can tell you that majority of the smaller to midsize companies won't. Besides who wants to fly to Addis Ababa? This is not Paris we are talking about?

Primebuilders:
I beg to differ. Look at the opening sentence

Each year, the University of Southern California brings delegations from Africa to meet with business leaders, government officials and others in the U.S. But this year, the African summit has no Africans. All were denied visas.

This summit have been going on for years. They should come to Africa and hold the summit if it not academic exercise

Who wants to come to Africa in the first place? You think some of this people don't have better things to do than to be jetting across the world on some wild goose chase. If you need my help, you come to me. I am not going to come to you afterall you need my money.

my friend you sound funny,how many people want to come to Africa? that is laughable everything you see in Europe and some in America is as a result of Africa,191 planes land in Nigeria daily and they are atlist 30% foreigners in them so go figure,you may not like your country especially if you are igbo that is auto default setting but definitely without Africa the world would collapse.quote me anywhere

davidif:
The question is how many people want to go to Africa in the first place? You think this is Monaco we are talking about? You think you can just convince some businesses to come to your country simply because you are "hosting a world class event?" You must have never worked in the corporate world before have you? cos if you have you would know that corporations don't like to waste there money until they know its a sure thing. You don't spend money on a trip to Africa unless you are at an advanced stage of talks to close a deal or something along those lines. Show me how many companies will be willing to let there staff just fly to some far flung corner of the globe on an all expenses paid trip without first knowing about the place? Not only are they going to missing out on work but they are going to be on the hook if anything bad happens to him.

This is a 'get to know you' kind of summit. A networking kind of thing like a career fair where a company comes to campus to sell themselves to students and to possibly conduct interviews on site. If they like You they can then fly you out to there facility for another round of interviews type stuff.

If this where done in Africa maybe one or two big companies might be willing to send one or two employees there on a meet and greet but I can tell you that majority of the smaller to midsize companies won't. Besides who wants to fly to Addis Ababa? This is not Paris we are talking about?

Although the rate of indisciminate US visa refusal has gone up dramatically since Trump came in; I must say this is one time that the consular got it right.

I know Mary Flowers personally. She is a con artist (and anyone who bothers to do checks on her will discover same) and your perusal of her bland website is just the tip of the iceberg. She and her coy have nothing to offer.

ttmacoy:
Your logic here is wrong because it was organised by Mary Flowers to help American companies recognise the investment opportunities in Africa.

She is the head of the consulting company Global Green Development Group and also the head of the USC Black Alumni Association hence why only those 2 organisations are sponsoring it.

if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?

They were probably refused the visa because the organisations don't seem to have much merit and also probably past attendees 40% of whom were refused ended up doing a runner or didn't even attend the summit at all.

Go and look at the website below. Her objective is to help US companies see investment opportunities in Africa so why doesn't she take them to Africa where they can meet a lot more small businesses who cant afford to fly to America and who need investment?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

This so called summit is supposed to be in it's 3rd or 4th year yet we can't see any photos videos reviews of past summits, attendees or speakers. We have no clue who is speaking at this event which was cancelled and it is for 3 days. See below website for another submit and see how they have a program with speakers and topics etc? Are you telling me you will really pay for a summit where you have no idea who is speaking or what topics they will be talking about? No idea what investors, companies etc. will be attending? Such events will put on their websites the companies they are expecting etc. to sell the event.

http://www.ccausafricasummit.com/

And for all US embassies in all the African countries to deny all invites it must mean that summit has been blacklisted for previous visa abuse or there are concerns about the summit.

The summit website is just one page, no links, nothing just one page. The text they have under climate change etc. is copy and paste from the UN publication on climate change.

Then from climate change they talk about Iroko investment which is another copy and paste but no idea why as it has nothing to do with this summit. All they have done is just come up with random topics, copy and paste existing publications from Google and say summit. God knows how much they charged for this. I couldn't check because registration is closed.

jameseva:
You didnt read the part where the article said.. The summit is to get investors to come invest in africa, did you?

what kind of investors? where did those investors get dia money from? is it not monies stolen from Africa by Africans? let Africans stay in Africa and invest in Africa. did you know that DANGOTE just started coal mining in Tanzania?

I think trump want the best for African.. We can do it by ourselves rather than running there always. Thank you Mr. Trump

davidif:
Hahahaha what a naive statement! You must have never worked in the corporate world before have you? cos if you have you would know that corporations don't like to waste there money until they know its a sure thing. You don't spend money on a trip to Africa unless you are at an advanced stage of talks to close a deal or something along those lines. Show me how many companies will be willing to let there staff just fly to some far flung corner of the globe on an all expenses paid trip without first knowing about the place? Not only are they going to missing out on work but they are going to be on the hook if anything bad happens to him.

This is a 'get to know you' kind of summit. A networking kind of thing like a career fair where a company comes to campus to sell themselves to students and to possibly conduct interviews on site. If they like You they can then fly you out to there facility for another round of interviews type stuff.

If this where done in Africa maybe one or two big companies might be willing to send one or two employees there on a meet and greet but I can tell you that majority of the smaller to midsize companies won't. Besides who wants to fly to Addis Ababa? This is not Paris we are talking about?

Thank you o

jameseva:
You didnt read the part where the article said.. The summit is to get investors to come invest in africa, did you?

With the huge no of likes & shares the dude has succeeded in passing the wrong message. Thumbs up for the correction. People easily get carried away with shallow and superficial speech as long as it's laced with charisma.

ttmacoy:
Your logic here is wrong because it was organised by Mary Flowers to help American companies recognise the investment opportunities in Africa.

She is the head of the consulting company Global Green Development Group and also the head of the USC Black Alumni Association hence why only those 2 organisations are sponsoring it.

if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?

They were probably refused the visa because the organisations don't seem to have much merit and also probably past attendees 40% of whom were refused ended up doing a runner or didn't even attend the summit at all.

Go and look at the website below. Her objective is to help US companies see investment opportunities in Africa so why doesn't she take them to Africa where they can meet a lot more small businesses who cant afford to fly to America and who need investment?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

This so called summit is supposed to be in it's 3rd or 4th year yet we can't see any photos videos reviews of past summits, attendees or speakers. We have no clue who is speaking at this event which was cancelled and it is for 3 days. See below website for another submit and see how they have a program with speakers and topics etc? Are you telling me you will really pay for a summit where you have no idea who is speaking or what topics they will be talking about? No idea what investors, companies etc. will be attending? Such events will put on their websites the companies they are expecting etc. to sell the event.

http://www.ccausafricasummit.com/

And for all US embassies in all the African countries to deny all invites it must mean that summit has been blacklisted for previous visa abuse or there are concerns about the summit.

The summit website is just one page, no links, nothing just one page. The text they have under climate change etc. is copy and paste from the UN publication on climate change.

Then from climate change they talk about Iroko investment which is another copy and paste but no idea why as it has nothing to do with this summit. All they have done is just come up with random topics, copy and paste existing publications from Google and say summit. God knows how much they charged for this. I couldn't check because registration is closed.

Good job

jameseva:
Even though you dont deserve any iota of a response from a sane human. You and people around you maybe be absolutely inferior to other humans. But NEVER in your entire pathetic existence refer to africans with that derogatory term ever. Else Sango olukoso strikes you straight to the hottest part of hell!! There are millions of us out here that even see ourselves as superior humans if not anything! Oloshi jatijati

Big mouth.
How are you superior when you can't get visa?
How are you superior when you slept all night without fan or AC because NEPA take light?.
How are you superior when you are struggling to get citizenship of another man's country?
How are you superior when you cant hold meeting or seminar in Lagos, Johannesburg or Accra except New York and London.
How are you superior when our brothers and sister in sports are representing white race? How many white people nationalize to your so called superior B.S.

I repeat. Any meeting, conference or seminar of this kind benefits only the organizers and participants not Africa.

This is a very apt and thoroughly researched answer. In summary you nailed it. The money spent by would be attendees registering and buying flight ticket would be better spent in Africa. We are complaining of poor forex earnings and low fdi and some persons can still cough out $500 for conference registration. This raises a flag. Also the issue of content on the website is another flag. I doubt if genuine attendees to standard and recognised technical conferences organised by IEEE and SPE would be denied visas. It may be that the conference is actually a means of fleecing would be attendees who also have sinister motives beyond attending the "conference".

ttmacoy:
Your logic here is wrong because it was organised by Mary Flowers to help American companies recognise the investment opportunities in Africa.

She is the head of the consulting company Global Green Development Group and also the head of the USC Black Alumni Association hence why only those 2 organisations are sponsoring it.

if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?

They were probably refused the visa because the organisations don't seem to have much merit and also probably past attendees 40% of whom were refused ended up doing a runner or didn't even attend the summit at all.

Go and look at the website below. Her objective is to help US companies see investment opportunities in Africa so why doesn't she take them to Africa where they can meet a lot more small businesses who cant afford to fly to America and who need investment?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

ojlifa:
my friend you sound funny,how many people want to come to Africa? that is laughable everything you see in Europe and some in America is as a result of Africa,191 planes land in Nigeria daily and they are atlist 30% foreigners in them so go figure,you may not like your country especially if you are igbo that is auto default setting but definitely without Africa the world would collapse.quote me anywhere

Hahajajaha this comment is so laughable it's not even funny. So a continent that depends on aid from western countries for survival is sooo valuable to the rest of the world will collapse without it? Isn't that like saying a rich man would go bankrupt without the beggar who begs him for good?
For you to even say that because 191 planes land in nigeria daily is a sign foreigners want to come to Africa is just fallacious. Foreigners who usually come to Africa are aid workers, the adventurous type or the guy who grudgingly gets sent to Africa on a posting from his employer because they can't find a local guy to do the job better. So for you to say that foreigners want to come to Africa is just plain fallacious bruh.

Your comment is so full of false assumptions and conflated mumbo jumbo that I am even wondering whether to even waste my time to unpack the rest. because i dont want to derail the thread. So I am going to re-iterate what I said earlier about people's perception of Africa, Sub Saharan Africa is not a prime business destination nor is it a desirable vacation destination meaning that if you want people to come you have to give them a very convinvincing reason to and that includes going there to present your case because of you think a westerners who values his time so very much is going to take time out of their day and leave there family (not to mention the multiple antimalarial injections they have to take before even coming here) then you have either never lived abroad before one worked there.

Children of Hate answer your name.the country is so bad,Africa is disgusting yet mumu like you dey Nigerian land.you still dey Nigeria,they carry Nigerian passport,are you not aware you can denounce your citizenship and take Up UN passport.just to educate you every and i repeat every technological product get atlist one of its raw material from Africa,no raw material no product.that includes your tv ,your steel,urinuim,your phone,and the list is endless but surely you cant know that you are too slave minded to know.make una do quick go isreal, children of hate

davidif:
Hahajajaha this comment is so laughable it's not even funny. So a continent that depends on aid from western countries for survival is sooo valuable to the rest of the world will collapse without it? Isn't that like saying a rich man would go bankrupt without the beggar who begs him for good?
For you to even say that because 191 planes land in nigeria daily is a sign foreigners want to come to Africa is just fallacious. Foreigners who usually come to Africa are aid workers, the adventurous type or the guy who grudgingly gets sent to Africa on a posting from his employer because they can't find a local guy to do the job better. So for you to say that foreigners want to come to Africa is just plain fallacious bruh.

Your comment is so full of false assumptions and conflated mumbo jumbo that I am even wondering whether to even waste my time to unpack the rest. because i dont want to derail the thread. So I am going to re-iterate what I said earlier about people's perception of Africa, Sub Saharan Africa is not a prime business destination nor is it a desirable business meaning that if you want people to come you have to give them a very convinvincing reason to and that includes going there to present your case because of you think a westerners who values his time so very much is going to take time out of their day and leave there family (not to mention the multiple antimalarial injections they have to take before even coming here) then you have either never lived abroad before one worked there.

ttmacoy:
if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?

They were probably refused the visa because the organisations don't seem to have much merit and also probably past attendees 40% of whom were refused ended up doing a runner or didn't even attend the summit at all.

Go and look at the website below. Her objective is to help US companies see investment opportunities in Africa so why doesn't she take them to Africa where they can meet a lot more small businesses who cant afford to fly to America and who need investment?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

This so called summit is supposed to be in it's 3rd or 4th year yet we can't see any photos videos reviews of past summits, attendees or speakers. We have no clue who is speaking at this event which was cancelled and it is for 3 days. See below website for another submit and see how they have a program with speakers and topics etc? Are you telling me you will really pay for a summit where you have no idea who is speaking or what topics they will be talking about? No idea what investors, companies etc. will be attending? Such events will put on their websites the companies they are expecting etc. to sell the event.

http://www.ccausafricasummit.com/

And for all US embassies in all the African countries to deny all invites it must mean that summit has been blacklisted for previous visa abuse or there are concerns about the summit.

The summit website is just one page, no links, nothing just one page. The text they have under climate change etc. is copy and paste from the UN publication on climate change.

Dude, this is a fairly young summit. It's not as established yet so I doubt if they have acquired the sophistication or have the clout for that yet.

Secondly, your assertion that "if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?" shows that you have not worked in the corporate world over here because if you have you would know that no one is going to send there employees on an all expenses paid trip to a far flunged country for some summit somewhere on planet earth. That's a waste of my time and resources especially if I am a small or mid sized company that can barely afford it. If you want me to come and invest in your country come and convince me first and introduce yourself to me.

There is no point beating the horse on this. Young or not the website for the summit is poor and suspect and I will not logically pay money based on what I saw on the site. Imagine the conversation with the VO, so what topic or speaker are you looking forward to hearing at the summit. errr I don't know the speakers yet. What companies etc. are you hoping to meet, errr it wasn't on the website. You see how silly that will sound?

Yes I agree the summit can either be held in the US or Africa, but saying companies will not send people to Africa is wrong. If a company sees the opportunities she claims on the summit website trust me they will send people. I have already posted links to previous similar summits held in Africa e.g. Addis Ababa and there was clearly photos of prior events with lots and lots of people so that puts your theory companies will not come to Africa to bed.

Again I ask where are photos of prior events and delegates and speakers? Or is the event too young to take photos in this day and age where smartphones all have cameras?

Can you honestly tell me if I sent you this link and told you hey this is an amazing summit go register $500, you will look at that site and pay for it? Can you honestly look at that link and tell me you will pay for it?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

I can assure you I have enough corporate experience to know companies and investors will fly to Nigeria if there are opportunities that warrant it and I have sent you an example of the Addis Ababa event which was full of people so I don't get why you keep claiming people will not come to Africa. I have worked for investment banks and currently a consulting firm and so I do not lack corporate experience.

Look at the objective of the summit, it is to introduce American companies to the lots of opportunities in Africa so if she has run this event 3 to 4 times why is there no information on past events, past successes etc? Instead you have copy and paste text from the UN climate change publication, and copy and paste from Forbes on iRoko. I'm sorry but I will NOT pay for such an event, and if I was a visa officer I would have lots of questions and the fact every single attendee was refused across multi African embassies suggest the summit must have been blacklisted.

Why is there only one sponsor of the event, literally this Mary Flower who heads both the consulting firm and the black alumni association, why only those 2 parties linked by 1 person. Those are the type of logical questions I would expect asked before paying money and I would expect VOs will also look at all this and if I was a visa officer the fact I can't even pay for such event means I will not issue the visa.

davidif:
Dude, this is a fairly young summit. It's not as established yet so I doubt if they have acquired the sophistication or have the clout for that yet.

Secondly, your assertion that "if she truly wants to help American companies recognise investment opportunities in Africa why not take them to Africa which will be a lot cheaper and easier?" shows that you have not worked in the corporate world over here because if you have you would know that no one is going to send there employees on an all expenses paid trip to a far flunged country for some summit somewhere on planet earth. That's a waste of my time and resources especially if I am a small or mid sized company that can barely afford it. If you want me to come and invest in your country come and convince me first and introduce yourself to me.

rightwingz:
Big mouth.
How are you superior when you can't get visa?
How are you superior when you slept all night without fan or AC because NEPA take light?.
How are you superior when you are struggling to get citizenship of another man's country?
How are you superior when you cant hold meeting or seminar in Lagos, Johannesburg or Accra except New York and London.
How are you superior when our brothers and sister in sports are representing white race? How many white people nationalize to your so called superior B.S.

I repeat. Any meeting, conference or seminar of this kind benefits only the organizers and participants not Africa.

Get tff outta here with your inferior asss! You & I should not even be engaged in discussions

ttmacoy:
There is no point beating the horse on this. Young or not the website for the summit is poor and suspect and I will not logically pay money based on what I saw on the site. Imagine the conversation with the VO, so what topic or speaker are you looking forward to hearing at the summit. errr I don't know the speakers yet. What companies etc. are you hoping to meet, errr it wasn't on the website. You see how silly that will sound?

Yes I agree the summit can either be held in the US or Africa, but saying companies will not send people to Africa is wrong. If a company sees the opportunities she claims on the summit website trust me they will send people. I have already posted links to previous similar summits held in Africa e.g. Addis Ababa and there was clearly photos of prior events with lots and lots of people so that puts your theory companies will not come to Africa to bed.

Again I ask where are photos of prior events and delegates and speakers? Or is the event too young to take photos in this day and age where smartphones all have cameras?

Can you honestly tell me if I sent you this link and told you hey this is an amazing summit go register $500, you will look at that site and pay for it? Can you honestly look at that link and tell me you will pay for it?

http://www.agedsummit.com/

I can assure you I have enough corporate experience to know companies and investors will fly to Nigeria if there are opportunities that warrant it and I have sent you an example of the Addis Ababa event which was full of people so I don't get why you keep claiming people will not come to Africa. I have worked for investment banks and currently a consulting firm and so I do not lack corporate experience.

Look at the objective of the summit, it is to introduce American companies to the lots of opportunities in Africa so if she has run this event 3 to 4 times why is there no information on past events, past successes etc? Instead you have copy and paste text from the UN climate change publication, and copy and paste from Forbes on iRoko. I'm sorry but I will NOT pay for such an event, and if I was a visa officer I would have lots of questions and the fact every single attendee was refused across multi African embassies suggest the summit must have been blacklisted.

Why is there only one sponsor of the event, literally this Mary Flower who heads both the consulting firm and the black alumni association, why only those 2 parties linked by 1 person. Those are the type of logical questions I would expect asked before paying money and I would expect VOs will also look at all this and if I was a visa officer the fact I can't even pay for such event means I will not issue the visa.

Dude, i said in my earlier post that only the wealthy and large multinational companies can afford to send there people on some trip to a far flung corner of the world. The small to midsize to small companies won't. Why would i want to risk exposure to countries with political instability, weak laws and infrastructure.

Secondly, this is not the first time they have hosted the event. They have hosted it multiple times and they say they usually get only a 40% rejection rate so why 100% this time around? uhn? If you think this has nothing to do with Trump's policies then you truly are deluded sir.

For more information see below.

Trump administration orders 'increased scrutiny' for visas
Diplomatic cables provide insight into how the government is implementing what Trump has called ‘extreme vetting’ of foreigners entering the US

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/23/rex-tillerson-visas-extreme-vetting-trump-administration

Trump Administration Orders Tougher Screening of Visa Applicants
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/politics/visa-extreme-vetting-rex-tillerson.html

ojlifa:
Children of Hate answer your name.the country is so bad,Africa is disgusting yet mumu like you dey Nigerian land.you still dey Nigeria,they carry Nigerian passport,are you not aware you can denounce your citizenship and take Up UN passport.just to educate you every and i repeat every technological product get atlist one of its raw material from Africa,no raw material no product.that includes your tv ,your steel,urinuim,your phone,and the list is endless but surely you cant know that you are too slave minded to know.make una do quick go isreal, children of hate

First of all, i am not a child of hate.

Secondly, i don't live in Nigeria.

Thirdly, i have no ties to Israel.

Fourthly, your assertion that "every technological product get atlist one of its raw materials from Africa" is probably conjecture. So why don't you the research on the components of all this technology you are talking about, trace there origins then we can talk later.

Oh by the way, its at least not "atlist" neither is Uranium spelt as "urinum". As for Israel, well i assume that you have already seen my spelling.

Lastly, have a good day.

clap for yourself,only a slave minded individual thinks knowledge of a language constitutes intelligence well done,abeg correct more of my spelling ,while you are at it teach the Germans,Chinese,Brazilians ,Spanish, french,Italians and the endless list how to spell .mugu if i tell you write in your children of hate language now,you no sabi

davidif:
First of all, i am not a child of hate.

Secondly, i don't live in Nigeria.

Thirdly, i have no ties to Israel.

Fourthly, your assertion that "every technological product get atlist one of its raw materials from Africa" is probably conjecture. So why don't you the research on the components of all this technology you are talking about, trace there origins then we can talk later.

Oh by the way, its at least not "atlist" neither is Uranium spelt as "urinum". As for Israel, well i assume that you have already seen my spelling.

Have a good day.

ojlifa:
clap for yourself,only a slave minded individual thinks knowledge of a language constitutes intelligence well done,abeg correct more of my spelling ,while you are at it teach the Germans,Chinese,Brazilians ,Spanish, french,Italians and the endless list how to spell .mugu if i tell you write in your children of hate language now,you no sabi

Hahaha hahaha e pain am. When someone resorts to insults then I know they have already lost an argument and can't think of a comeback Haha Haha.

if that one go make you sleep well for night,then enjoy

davidif:
Hahaha hahaha e pain am. When someone resorts to insults then I know they have already lost an argument and can't think of a comeback Haha Haha.