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ElsonMorali:
You still don't understand that it's an indictment on the Jonathan govt.

If Nigeria had as much jets, why was boko haram left to fester up till the point where over 200 school girls were kidnapped without any resistance and our soldiers were making tactical retreat across our border into Cameroon?

Please where did you see so much jets ? The ATR and drones were purchased after The chibok kidnap while the FN was puchased prior to the kidnap but could be used since our pilots where yet to get type ratings for them and their precision muinition never arrived ..Bro i am not a fan of Jonathan but know there was also sabotage aginst him by Hausa troops who didnt want to be led by an infidel commander in chief to fight a group claiming to fight for islam

God bless GEJ

God bless GEJ on this... just that the northern cabals was an obstacle to his achievements, but he tried.

SalamRushdie:
Please where did you see so much jets ? The ATR and drones were purchased after The chibok kidnap while the FN was puchased prior to the kidnap but could be used since our pilots where yet to get type ratings for them and their precision muinition never arrived ..Bro i am not a fan of Jonathan but know there was also sabotage aginst him by Hausa troops who didnt want to be led by an infidel commander in chief to fight a group claiming to fight for islam

Any proof of that?

Who were boko haram killing most? Northerners! So why wouldn't soldiers from northern extraction want to protect their own?

Of course there were saboteurs, both northern and southern, but they weren't exactly the reason Jonathan wasn't striking back at the terrorists.

The answer to that lies in Obasanjo's statement to him when Jonathan went visiting during the 2015 campaigns.

ElsonMorali:
Any proof of that?

Who were boko haram killing most? Northerners! So why wouldn't soldiers from northern extraction want to protect their own?

Of course there were saboteurs, both northern and southern, but they weren't exactly the reason Jonathan wasn't striking back at the terrorists.

The answer to that lies in Obasanjo's statement to him when Jonathan went visiting during the 2015 campaigns.

Bro most of the leading troop that did help cub the excesses of Boko Haram are mostly lead by the middlebelt extractions, I mean the Tarok (Langhtern people from plateau state) and some Christians soldiers from other states... Muslim's soldiers from major northern leak military tactics to boko boys and that's why it took time...

Acetyl:
Bro most of the leading troop that did help cub the excesses of Boko Haram are mostly lead by the middlebelt extractions, I mean the Tarok (Langhtern people from plateau state) and some Christians soldiers from other states... Muslim's soldiers from major northern leak military tactics to boko boys and that's why it took time...

i'm sure you've forgotten that a canadian international negotiator fingered Ihejirika, chief of army staff as a prominent boko haram sponsor.

Google it if you think it's a lie.

ElsonMorali:
i'm sure you've forgotten that a canadian international negotiator fingered Ihejirika, chief of army staff as a prominent boko haram sponsor.

Google it if you think it's a lie.

Lol ,this is Nigeria where politics is played with virtually everything. Accusing Ihejirika bro is a false accusations. Yes, why do I said this? If you can still recall vividly El-rifai was the one shouting Ihejirika is killing Northern youth and not fighting boko boys. All these are game plan and blackmailing. If you are privileged to get close to NA you will understand Boko Haram issues, those that really turned it to politics.60per.of military baracks in Northern states today are occupied by soldiers from south... The Yorubas, Taroks (though Northern's but they don't believe in Northern oligarchy) south South's and the Igbos and some some core Northern soldiers. All these revelations happened after a thorough IT gathering and that was why GEJ makes little process in dealing with boko boys a little towards the expiration of his tenure. It a fact bro.Ok why was Alex bade accused despite the fact that he was also feeling the pains (Adamawa). The truth is that core Northern hate being lead by infidels (Christians) as they are called. These Northern soldiers Muslims are those causing the sabotage, the leak military tactics to their brotherhood thinking they are fighting the infidels.

Acetyl:
Lol ,this is Nigeria where politics is played with virtually everything. Accusing Ihejirika bro is a false accusations. Yes, why do I said this? If you can still recall vividly El-rifai was the one shouting Ihejirika is killing Northern youth and not fighting boko boys. All these are game plan and blackmailing. If you are privileged to get close to NA you will understand Boko Haram issues, those that really turned it to politics.70per.of military baracks in Northern states are occupied by soldiers from south... The Yorubas, Taroks (though Northern's but they don't believe in Northern oligarchy) south South's and the Igbos and some some core Northern soldiers. All these revelations happened after a thorough IT gathering and that was why GEJ makes little process in dealing with boko boys a little towards the expiration of his tenure. It a fact bro

i dont think the canadian would soil his international repute to take part in Nigeria's petty politics.

He not only indicted Ihejirika, he also pointed accusing fingers at Ali Modu Sheriff, claiming that the two were neck deep in boko haram sponsorship.

Guess who the current PDP chairman is. Yes, Ali Modu Sheriff.

Remember the accusation of the late Azazi, who pointed out that PDP was very much in the know about boko haram.

Guess what happened to Azazi, the then chief of army staff, from the south south. Yeah, he died. Helicopter crash they called it.

ElsonMorali:
i dont think the canadian would soil his international repute to take part in Nigeria's petty politics.

He not only indicted Ihejirika, he also pointed accusing fingers at Ali Modu Sheriff, claiming that the two were neck deep in boko haram sponsorship.

Guess who the current PDP chairman is. Yes, Ali Modu Sheriff.

Remember the accusation of the late Azazi, who pointed out that PDP was very much in the know about boko haram.

Guess what happened to Azazi, the then chief of army staff, from the south south. Yeah, he died. Helicopter crash they called it.

Ok what will Alimodu sheriff gain in sponsoring Boko boys?He initiated it and his intentions back then wasn't what it later turned out to be. It just like having some touts or so called area boys used for political fight but it later boomeranged and by so doing He (cannot denied) it. Yes he sponsor them but they were not Boko boys then.Just a mere political thugs that later metamorphose into the threat we have today.

Acetyl:
Ok what will Alimodu sheriff gain in sponsoring Boko boys?He initiated it and his intentions back then wasn't what it later turned out to be. It just like having some touts or so called area boys used for political fight but it later boomeranged

this is just like asking what would a gun runner gain by sponsoring a war? Profits of course.

Did you read how much billions the various chiefs of staff made out of the boko haram war under Jonathan?

Why do you think boko haram was so powerful then?

ElsonMorali:
this is just like asking what would a gun runner gain by sponsoring a war? Profits of course.

Did you read how much billions the various chiefs of staff made out of the boko haram war under Jonathan?

Why do you think boko haram was so powerful then?

.Ok if you said so but let me ask you questions... If you are OK (rich) to some extent, will sponsor or be part of terrorism against your people, town, and state of birth or origin. Not that you are looking for way out but after being at least OK some extent?

Acetyl:
.Ok if you said so but let me ask you questions... If you are OK (rich) to some extent, will sponsor or be part of terrorism against your people, town, and state of birth or origin. Not that you are looking for way out but after being at least OK some extent?

For you to be in the arms business, you can't be poor.

Seems, you don't have a Good grasp of the human nature.

People are callous and they'd do anything for money and power.

That you and I can't or won't cross some lines doesn't mean there aren't others who will.

I can't sponsor terrorism against my enemies not to talk of my people.

Same way I can never take another person's kids for money rituals. Doesn't mean there aren't others who'd be glad to.

ElsonMorali:
For you to be in the arms business, you can't be poor.

Seems, you don't have a Good grasp of the human nature.

People are callous and they'd do anything for money and power.

That you and I can't or won't cross some lines doesn't mean there aren't others who will.

I can't sponsor terrorism against my enemies not to talk of my people.

Same way I can never take another person's kids for money rituals. Doesn't mean there aren't others who'd be glad to.

well said sha but I don't like blaming GEJ for the boko issues cos the Northerns are the problem of themselves,let another Southern attain that post and you will witness another poo from the north.

Acetyl:
well said sha but I don't like blaming GEJ for the boko issues cos the Northerns are the problem of themselves,let another Southern attain that post and you will witness another poo from the north.

When boko haram started in 2009, I was doing my NYSC in a village in the North, Plateau state to be precise.

There was palpable fear in the air.

But few weeks after, Yar'Adua's government decimated the group and would have finished them off If not for his death.

Enter Jonathan.

Remember his witless speeches?

The "I am not a general in the army" speech,

the " boko haram are my brothers and sisters" speech

And the "There's terrorism in other countries, so Maybe is our turn" speech

These make it so difficult to absolve him of any blame or complicity.

I place the blame squarely at his feet bro.

ElsonMorali:
When boko haram started in 2009, I was doing my NYSC in a village in the North, Plateau state to be precise.

There was palpable fear in the air.

But few weeks after, Yar'Adua's government decimated the group and would have finished them off If not for his death.

Enter Jonathan.

Remember his witless speeches?

The "I am not a general in the army" speech,

the " boko haram are my brothers and sisters" speech

And the "There's terrorism in other countries, so Maybe is our turn" speech

These make it so difficult to absolve him of any blame or complicity.

I place the blame squarely at his feet bro.

Why am exonerating GEJ is he procured every necessary military equipments needed to combat the war, every dine asked for by then chief security advertiser was given which Dasuki later diverted for his own use and coupled with facts that he had issues with sokoto caliphate for ousting his dad then. If not GEJ would have been prosecuted by international community for not handling the issues well as we witness from other countries but major countries can see the war equipments his government purchased so the blame still lie much on the then chief security adviser I mean Dasuki he is from North, he knows where the shoe pinches them, they are the one feeling the heat of boko boys. So the grievances should be channeled to Northerns that why I said they are their own problem

alienvirus:
Nigerian military. One of the best on tue continent.

God bless my Nigeria

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Acetyl:
Why am exonerating GEJ is he procured every necessary military equipments needed to combat the war, every dine asked for by then chief security advertiser was given which Dasuki later diverted for his own use and coupled with facts that he had issues with sokoto caliphate for ousting his dad then. If not GEJ would have been prosecuted by international community for not handling the issues well as we witness from other countries but major countries can see the war equipments his government purchased so the blame still lie much on the then chief security adviser I mean Dasuki he is from North, he knows where the shoe pinches them, they are the one feeling the heat of boko boys. So the grievances should be channeled to Northerns that why I said they are their own problem

Bro, a little advice here. Don't ever vouch for any politician. They are not worth it.

Dasuki was NSA, do you honestly believe that He diverted funds many for security to politicians without his boss's awareness?

Jonathan can not be prosecuted. You guys should realise that Nigeria is not a baby country that even the U.S. can invade anyhow.

Worse case scenario, they'll leave us to kill ourselves.

Obasanjo asked Jonathan to tell everyone the reason why he wasn't fighting boko haram.

Jonathan hoped that the crisis in the north east would continue so that there wouldn't be an election there which happens to be the stronghold of his main opponent.

Remember there was a renewed effort on the part of the fg when Jonathan realised here might lose the election sure to his shoddy handling of the terrorist group.

That's one of the reasons he postponed the election from February 14. Remember?

Zane2point4:
Shame thats all i can say.. ...outdated soviet era planes.. ..except for the transport plane, which is even somehow phased out in other countries.
For christ sake we are at war, why don't dey procure state of an art jet fighters.

Standard war jet won't be sold to Nigeria government because the world powers see Nigeria's government as having a Human Rights abuse records. Imagine the British government who colonised Nigeria isn't also ready for such deals with sales of wars ship or jet fighters to Nigeria government. It is really a shame on Nigerian government.

ElsonMorali:
Bro, a little advice here. Don't ever vouch for any politician. They are not worth it.

Dasuki was NSA, do you honestly believe that He diverted funds many for security to politicians without his boss's awareness?

Jonathan can not be prosecuted. You guys should realise that Nigeria is not a baby country that even the U.S. can invade anyhow.

Worse case scenario, they'll leave us to kill ourselves.

Obasanjo asked Jonathan to tell everyone the reason why he wasn't fighting boko haram.

Jonathan hoped that the crisis in the north east would continue so that there wouldn't be an election there which happens to be the stronghold of his main opponent.

Remember there was a renewed effort on the part of the fg when Jonathan realised here might lose the election sure to his shoddy handling of the terrorist group.

That's one of the reasons he postponed the election from February 14. Remember?

well I know politicians are devilish especially the Nigerian folks but I don't think any Southern can compromise the security of his own people because money and advice from someone else from another region... I know the country we are living square pet are put in round holes huh .I don't think a Yoruba or an Igbo man can act that way so extent of that massacre, oh men the level of destruction in the north east is too much. Dasuki is damn foolish, well he is a Northern sha easy to brainwash .

Acetyl:
well I know politicians are devilish especially the Nigerian folks but I don't think any Southern can compromise the security of his own people because money and advice from someone else from another region... I know the country we are living square pet are put in round holes huh

Hmmm... you don't know our southern folks then.

You've forgotten that the northerners don't do ritual killings for money, we Southerners do.

ElsonMorali:
Hmmm... you don't know our southern folks then.

You've forgotten that the northerners don't do ritual killings for money, we Southerners do.

Yes but bro the level of massacre in the north east pass ritual killing bro more than thousands soul went for it coupled with billions naira property destroyed

Acetyl:
Yes but bro the level of massacre in the north east pass ritual killing bro more than thousands soul went for it coupled with billions naira property destroyed

All because of corruption.

Can you compare the boko haram of Jonathan's time to the boko haram of this time?

ElsonMorali:
All because of corruption.

Can you compare the boko haram of Jonathan's time to the boko haram of this time?

definitely no, there improvement but can u also compare the level of killings being carried out by Fulani herdsmen? Fulanis are killing, destroying property everywhere. so it's a wist of maneuver

Olu317:
Standard war jet won't be sold to Nigeria government because the world powers see Nigeria's government as having a Human Rights abuse records. Imagine the British government who colonised Nigeria isn't also ready for such deals with sales of wars ship or jet fighters to Nigeria government. It is really a shame on Nigerian government.

What about russians too, they dont give a damn about what you wana do about the procuments, why can't we even go as low as su-25, or even generous to buy su-35 flanker?

What a disgrace. Outdated planes

A country of 180 million people.

Acetyl:
definitely no, there improvement but can u also compare the level of killings being carried out by Fulani herdsmen? Fulanis are killing, destroying property everywhere. so it's a wist of maneuver

True. You're right. The Fulani herdsmen killings is a blight on Buhari's administration and integrity.

That's probably the only major fault I see in him.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7IOJfmCj54

60 Seconds with top Nigerian Air Force pilot, Hastruup

Flight Lieutenant Hastruup of 103 Strike Force, Yola speaks on the mission to Sambisa forest and the fight against Boko Haram insurgents in the North-Eastern part of Nigeria.

Beautiful airplane But Boko Haram is giving this airplane a problem, for many many years I don't understand why I suspect; This guy drives very fast when approaching Boko Haram area to save himself, He avoid to get injured He don't want to make any mistake

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtH1OBJ5Y7Y

Very Much Improved Nigerian Air Force

I don't trust this guys, since they failed to destroy Boko haram, No,no,no, I don't trust this team at all