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| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by robosky02(m): 8:58pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
ozoebuka1:if you think niger delta is a joke then biafea too is a joke in the eyes of nigeria |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 8:58pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
Kelsonic:This bastarrd live Opobo out of ur madness |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 9:00pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
BiafranPound:Who dash u opobo man. Idiot igbo |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Mckennedy: 9:48pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
BiafranPound:Amam na isi adigi gi n'nma Kedu ihe ima banyere ndigbo? Onye bu nna gi? Obodo ka o'si? |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by BiafranPound: 9:50pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
nengibo:e bụ anohia! |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by BiafranPound: 9:52pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
Mckennedy:bịa nwo isioma, e bụ nwatakịrị! E maa a ịhe gaa nụ! ![]() |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by ConqueredWest: 9:59pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
Fremancipation:One bottle of Orijin for you |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 10:18pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
BiafranPound:bush ipob idiot kip denying your osu father |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by greatnation2: 10:33pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
BiafranPound:You are not smart, 1, what you are typing doesn't make sense 2, there is no way you can type in Igbo language with computer or phone and use the punctuations marks, the way you did, it shows you used Google translator then you copy and paste, although its stil messing you up, that was exactly what you did during 2015 presidential election, with Igbo name, why not show this zeal in Kwara? Why having sleepless night over Igbo? You guys problems are enormous, for century now Fulanies conquered Kwara, you guys hardly open thread to discuss about your brothers over there, so because your forefathers failed in Kwara, you current western generation are cowards to make effort to liberate your brothers who are crying for help, there are so many problems in west, ranging from rituals, rape, suicide, poverty, high debt boredom among all states in West and so many of them, you guys main headaches is Igbos, you can't run away from your problems for ever, soon or later they will be facing you guys, that's why we Igbo youths are talking the bulls by their hores, it not an easy ride but certainly we will conquer. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by hamilton62(m): 11:22pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
realjoker:what an idiocy? how on earth will a gullible mal-informed know what is history and not the doctored and cooked up stories normally found in your country? Google is here to stay and help people like you if only you can metamorphose for good... with open mind, let the internet help you and don't be a wimp... |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by RobbStark(m): 11:31pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
mrvitalis:Did I hear you say Imo and Anambra have gas more than all the SS combined?? Tell me you said that in error.
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| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by mrvitalis(m): 11:39pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
RobbStark:No I am 100% sure ...of what I said |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by realjoker(m): 11:42pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
hamilton62:This is My problem with liepod yoots. Once they are short of sane defense line to back up their busted lies they retort to throwing tantrums and name callings, . They label all facts that expose their lies as doctored and cooked up stories and want everyone to take their igberetv and beerfraudherald inspired facts derived from their wild imagination and self deception as the real fact. Their line of arguments are based on emotions and lies told to them daily on radio beerfraud |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by fratermathy(m): 12:19am On Mar 29, 2017*. Modified: 11:39am On Mar 29, 2017 |
The Igbo people do have an inalienable right to self-determination. If the majority of Igbos support Biafra, there is certainly no problem with that. Nigeria was never a discussed nation. I believe that the FG should look into the request of the Igbos and find a permanent solution to their agitations. The international community should as well be consulted and wooed to the Igbo cause. However, my issues with the current Biafra ideology being propagated by IPOB are as follows: 1. The addition of tribes that have historically not been in Biafra such as Urhobo-Isoko and Itsekiri. These tribes have never been and have never pledged or advocated for Biafra. In fact, many Urhobos have never even heard of the word before. So there is no basis for the addition of these people. 2. The addition of non-Igbo tribes in the South South. It is true that many of the minorities in the former Eastern Region were in the extinct Biafran republic but it must be emphasised that only a few of them commiserated with the cause. Currently, less than 1% of members of these ethnic minorities are sympathetic to the Biafran project. Many don't trust the motives of IPOB, which added them to maps without due consultation. The mistrust is further exacerbated by the reactions of IPOB youths online when confronted with the reality that members of minority tribes are NOT interested in Biafra. I have been hearing the common idea of a referendum from IPOB and Igbos but as far as I am concerned, there won't be any referendum in the South-South because the people haven't asked for it. Referendums are conducted on request and no minority tribe has asked for any in line with the Biafran ideology. In the SE, an overwhelming majority subscribe to Biafra so there won't also be a need for any referendum as the outcome would be certain. If IPOB is to succeed and attract sympathy, it should remain an IGBO affair as it is. After all, how many of the so-called minorities join in protests and the propagandist movement? Will they eat from where they did not work? From all the comments on the internet and the reality on ground, it is obvious even to the blind that minorities do not want Biafra. Why force yourself and your ideology on them? Isn't it wise to speak for only your ethnicity and agitate for an Igbo Biafra? If the minorities want Biafra, they should agitate for it then an agreement will be reached. Don't force it down their throats. Many of these minorities have strong voices in the nation because of their oil and Nigeria WILL NEVER let them go except the minorities themselves reject Nigeria -which I have not seen any doing-. If Biafra is to leave Nigeria smoothly, focus on Igboland and leave areas where Nigeria has huge investments in. It simply won't work as Nigeria won't lose Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Delta and Bayelsa, etc, without a fight! Biafrans should cater for their own first and if Biafra is achieved, she may then extend a hand of fellowship to the neighbouring groups. 3. Use of emotions, rather than logic and reason to make arguments. I will concede that this is shown mainly by the semi-literate IPOB member with an internet connection. If you come online to hear the arguments proferred for Biafra, many are ridden with tribalism against the Hausa-Yoruba. The Hausa-Yoruba are people too and have their own wishes and aspirations. You may not want to be in a country with them doesn't mean you should hate them. I also understand that they return the hate as well but the circle will never end if you guys don't get your priorities right. As an Urhobo, I have seen many comments by Igbos geared towards annexing us whether we want it or not. To them, the whole of Delta is Biafraland without even realising that Delta was never part of Biafra to begin with. This campaign of calumny, heightened by sentiments, have created enemies of many minorities. I have heard discussions by Urhobos/Itsekiris and even Ibibios about Igbo and Biafra and nothing good was said whatsoever. I won't blame them for it. They simply reacted to what they've seen, especially on the internet. 4. Playing Lugard. Although this is just a repetition of what I had said, I wish to emphasise again in concrete terms. The Igbos frequently reference Nigeria as the Lugardian experiment. This is totally correct. One of the problems in Nigeria is multilingualism. At the onset, we operated a regional system and tribalism was still a very serious issue. In fact, so bad was tribalism in the regional system that it caused a civil war. Biafra proponents frequently cite regionalism and resource control as the basis for the addition of non-Igbo speaking tribes to Biafra. If regionalism didn't work in a multiethnic Nigeria, what will be different in a multiethnic Biafra? A lot has happened since the previous agitation and many of the Nigerian minorities are genuinely wary of Nigeria's major ethnic groups, including the Igbos. You cannot sweep this under the carpet all of a sudden. IPOB should focus more on building bridges and building its public image to the minorities if they really want them in Biafra. You can't force people into a marriage that they don't want. Don't play Lugard all over again. 5. Lack of good strategy. If you need a nation. You have to get intellectuals - political scientists, economists, scientists, sociologists, lawyers, etc - to draw a map and make useful contributions to the cause. This is where MASSOB has done better than IPOB. Many of the modern day Biafran agitators are traders, who are not even in Igboland to begin with, semi-literates and pure illiterates. They lack the wherewithal to draw a good action plan that will involve all Igbos. Protests are good but what have they achieved so far? NOTHING!!! Biafra also needs a charismatic leader. Nnamdi Kanu preaches too much violence and he is a war-monger. Biafra tried violence in 1967 and it didn't work. You need a different strategy. Organise a think-tank, engage the many Igbo professors, scientists, business moguls, innovators, economists, politicians, etc, and draw a clear roadmap. You don't need to fight Nigeria to get Biafra. No one owns Nigeria so fighting her would be in vain. Once Biafra gets a clear vision and roadmap towards its actualization, many things will fall in place naturally. The campaign shouldn't be all about violent protests; you guys should go to towns and villages and sensitise people, write letters to heads-of-states, make more calls, use more coercive forms of protests such as civil disobedience, solidarity walk, etc. Protest more in Abuja, rather than the South East. I have more issues with the movement but I have made my point with the few I have listed. Biafra is a good cause. Every ethnicity has the right to create its own destiny. No one can force any determined group into anything. Just the way Igbos struggle for their inalienable rights to determine her faith, so also should Igbos recognise the minorities' right to fashion their own destiny. No one should play Lugard with people's future. Let us correct the sins of the past. Every ethnic group is independent and has the capacity to become a nation-state. God bless us all! |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by fratermathy(m): 12:25am On Mar 29, 2017 |
ExplorerReturns:I don't know of any other tribe o but the ones I boldened have made it clear through Urhobo Progress Union, our apex group, that we are not interested in Biafra and do not need any referendum whatsoever. Even among the misguided SSners that support Biafra, YOU WILL NEVER FIND AN URHOBO-ISOKO!!! Making the position known yesterday in a statement, National Publicity Secretary of the Urhobo Progress Union, UPU, Alhaji Mumakai-Unagha, warned that Urhobo and its territories should be counted out from any IPOB plan.https://www.nairaland.com/2735702/urhobos-denounces-inclusion-proposed-biafran |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by fratermathy(m): 12:32am On Mar 29, 2017 |
While I do not speak for any of these groups below, I came across official statements from the groups asking Igbos specifically to respect their wishes and exclude them from Biafra. Every group is entitled to self-determination. The SS minorities certainly have made their stand clear!!! Itsekiri peoplehttps://www.naij.com/620088-will-not-tolerate-another-igbo-invasion-itsekiri-people-dissociates-biafra.html Gbaramatu Leaderswww.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/gbaramatu-kingdom-not-part-of-biafra-community-leaders-warn/ Gov Wikewww.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/192971-gov-wike-bans-biafra-protests-in-rivers.html River Elders and Leaders Councilwww.newsrescue.com/we-are-not-biafrans-never-say-rivers-elders/ Senator Godswill Akpabiowww.thenationonlineng.net/rivers-elders-reject-biafra/ |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Bridget95(f): 3:30am On Mar 29, 2017 |
victorvezx:your hatred can't do a poo. why can't you be yourselves. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Bridget95(f): 3:33am On Mar 29, 2017 |
mrvitalis:It is glaring that you are not igbo. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 6:01am On Mar 29, 2017 |
BiafranPound:mrvtalis no mind dis osu igbo man denying his osu father, no opobo person speaks Igbo like dis. Liepods try again. Opobo man wey be iyc vice president |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Funlordjnr: 6:51am On Mar 29, 2017*. Modified: 12:18pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
blues20:See this one? Talking about respect! Nonsense! Now let me break something down for you...every since the day I gave you the sort of cyber beating you have never seen in your life over 8 months ago you have been pained and crying all over my mentions like the little girl you are! I must say your pain gladdens me a lot though! I actually even saw you cowardly referring to one of your fellow ignorant ipob youths that you wish you could fight me? Even with 4 hands you won't be able to fight me! You are just a cowardly cyber punk! Nothing more nothing less! I am more brilliant than you, more respected than you, more important than you and lastly more influential than you in every sphere of life both online or offline so allow that sink into your skull 1st! All you do is go around creating foolish monikers, crying afonja up and down and trying to form like one tribal crusader like that useless prisoner called kanu in kuje! Instead of you to act like my reasonable igbo friends who make cash and believe in bettering their lives, those of their families and helping the country progress your own quota is to be acting foolish all over cyber space screaming about bia-fraud and spreading lies and propaganda all over the forum! I have ended the careers of greater nairaland nitwits so your own case would be like taking candy from a baby! Go and do a census amongst your fellow tribalist chums and see if any of them would dare to challenge me in discussing politics or in engaging in vitriol! Now let me give you some expo...out of pity I will allow you use this account for a while...if you come writing nonsense all over my posts like a demented creature unnecessarily I will send mynd and seun to kick you back to the gallows where all your other accounts are currently chilling! If you are so pained by how I disgraced you once why don't you just go and open a thread and invite me there and watch the way I will come and decimate you on that thread too! Now go and find some afonjeezys to insult before going to beg your mummy for breakfast! Litttle boy! |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Kelsonic: 7:40am On Mar 29, 2017 |
Wic one is bastard again..... Wen u c ur Father if u don't call him bastard it will never be well with u. nengibo: |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Mckennedy: 8:08am On Mar 29, 2017 |
BiafranPound:Couldn't understand nothing from the trash you wrote up there..#Igbowannabe |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:16am On Mar 29, 2017 |
Igbo only Biafra when they've already denied you? Okay. BiafranPound: |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by ozoebuka1(m): 8:24am On Mar 29, 2017 |
robosky02:kk, I thought I was engaging a smart fellow |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:30am On Mar 29, 2017 |
nengibo:Leave him to be fooling himself. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:37am On Mar 29, 2017 |
are you people not ashamed? Bandtura just like me is an urhobo. Accept it or use the lagoon.[s] greatnation2:[/s] |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:38am On Mar 29, 2017 |
mrvitalis:Oya go drill it naaa. What are you waiting for? The worse thing that can happen to a man is when he feels he knows and does not know that he does not know. This is worse than ignorance or stupidity. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:42am On Mar 29, 2017 |
Mckennedy:See them. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:43am On Mar 29, 2017 |
nengibo:Nengi just leave them to continue fooling themselves on nairaland. When the time comes they'll run to their Biafra/SE as usual. |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by hamilton62(m): 8:46am On Mar 29, 2017 |
realjoker:Kid! have you forgotten that you started the harsh words before my reply: 'you toss me i rode hit you"? cry me an ocean, cry baby! Open you defunct kevlar skull or heart for knowledge then you will understand that you are IQ grounded! Knowledge is power... Ciao! for the last time because a lost soul is one that lacks knowledge of what he "thinks" he knows and still opaque against more vivid and hallmark enlightenment! God bless you with this delusion state of persistent-no-upgrade! |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:48am On Mar 29, 2017 |
It must be really sad for your own people to reject you. BiafranPound: |
| Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:53am On Mar 29, 2017 |
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