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Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by robosky02(m): 8:58pm On Mar 28, 2017
ozoebuka1:
imo, anambra, abia are part of nigerdelta, do u know that? Nigerdelta republic is d greatest joke of all time. its time to stop all these divide and rule tactis
if you think niger delta is a joke

then biafea too is a joke in the eyes of nigeria
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 8:58pm On Mar 28, 2017
Kelsonic:
Aw abt my bro/sis in the so called ss( as far as I'm consigned there's nothing like as) like obigbo, opobo, etc. So we should leave too....
This bastarrd live Opobo out of ur madness
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 9:00pm On Mar 28, 2017
BiafranPound:
am an Igbo man from Opobo rivers state, you think Igbo land is locked? think again. don't you know that port Harcourt (Igweocha) is Igbo land?? you think Ikwerres don't know that they are Igbos?
Who dash u opobo man. Idiot igbo
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Mckennedy: 9:48pm On Mar 28, 2017
BiafranPound:
onye ịsị Nkpọchà! grin
Amam na isi adigi gi n'nma Kedu ihe ima banyere ndigbo? Onye bu nna gi? Obodo ka o'si?
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by BiafranPound: 9:50pm On Mar 28, 2017
nengibo:
Who dash u opobo man. Idiot igbo
e bụ anohia!
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by BiafranPound: 9:52pm On Mar 28, 2017
Mckennedy:
Amam na isi adigi gi n'nma Kedu ihe ima banyere ndigbo? Onye bu nna gi? Obodo ka o'si?
bịa nwo isioma, e bụ nwatakịrị! E maa a ịhe gaa nụ! angry
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by ConqueredWest: 9:59pm On Mar 28, 2017
Fremancipation:
Lol. Niger delta republic is a hoax. Where is their movement? Where are people taking bullets for them? Where are their protests? Where are their organizations? Where is their constitution? Do they really exist in reality outside of nairaland?
One bottle of Orijin for you
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 10:18pm On Mar 28, 2017
BiafranPound:
e bụ anohia!
bush ipob idiot kip denying your osu father
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by greatnation2: 10:33pm On Mar 28, 2017
BiafranPound:
bịa nwo isioma, e bụ nwatakịrị! E maa a ịhe gaa nụ! angry
You are not smart,
1, what you are typing doesn't make sense
2, there is no way you can type in Igbo language with computer or phone and use the punctuations marks, the way you did, it shows you used Google translator then you copy and paste, although its stil messing you up, that was exactly what you did during 2015 presidential election, with Igbo name, why not show this zeal in Kwara? Why having sleepless night over Igbo? You guys problems are enormous, for century now Fulanies conquered Kwara, you guys hardly open thread to discuss about your brothers over there, so because your forefathers failed in Kwara, you current western generation are cowards to make effort to liberate your brothers who are crying for help, there are so many problems in west, ranging from rituals, rape, suicide, poverty, high debt boredom among all states in West and so many of them, you guys main headaches is Igbos, you can't run away from your problems for ever, soon or later they will be facing you guys, that's why we Igbo youths are talking the bulls by their hores, it not an easy ride but certainly we will conquer.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by hamilton62(m): 11:22pm On Mar 28, 2017
realjoker:
Nope you are wrong, this is not just about you it is a general trait of Beerfraud supporters, Mudslinging, name callings, dissemination of fake stories and so on is Liepod trademark.
what an idiocy?
how on earth will a gullible mal-informed know what is history and not the doctored and cooked up stories normally found in your country?
Google is here to stay and help people like you if only you can metamorphose for good...
with open mind, let the internet help you and don't be a wimp...
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by RobbStark(m): 11:31pm On Mar 28, 2017
mrvitalis:
I am against Biafra cos I think we igbos are the greatest beneficiaries of one Nigeria ..even a one Africa will benefit us more

Igbos wants South south not because of oil or gas (IMO and anambra has more gas than South south combined) but just because we won't feel safe in a landlocked country ...that's y I prefer akwa..cross joining the Biafra the even rivers and bayelsa ( very lazy and troublesome set of people)

Oil is not the problem of igbos but just Access to the sea
Did I hear you say Imo and Anambra have gas more than all the SS combined??
Tell me you said that in error.

Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by mrvitalis(m): 11:39pm On Mar 28, 2017
RobbStark:
Did I hear you say Imo and Anambra have gas more than all the SS combined??
Tell me you said that in error.
No I am 100% sure ...of what I said
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by realjoker(m): 11:42pm On Mar 28, 2017
hamilton62:
what an idiocy?
how on earth will a gullible mal-informed know what is history and not the doctored and cooked up stories normally found in your country?
Google is here to stay and help people like you if only you can metamorphose for good...
with open mind, let the internet help you and don't be a wimp...
This is My problem with liepod yoots. Once they are short of sane defense line to back up their busted lies they retort to throwing tantrums and name callings, . They label all facts that expose their lies as doctored and cooked up stories and want everyone to take their igberetv and beerfraudherald inspired facts derived from their wild imagination and self deception as the real fact.
Their line of arguments are based on emotions and lies told to them daily on radio beerfraud
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by fratermathy(m):
The Igbo people do have an inalienable right to self-determination. If the majority of Igbos support Biafra, there is certainly no problem with that. Nigeria was never a discussed nation. I believe that the FG should look into the request of the Igbos and find a permanent solution to their agitations. The international community should as well be consulted and wooed to the Igbo cause. However, my issues with the current Biafra ideology being propagated by IPOB are as follows:

1. The addition of tribes that have historically not been in Biafra such as Urhobo-Isoko and Itsekiri. These tribes have never been and have never pledged or advocated for Biafra. In fact, many Urhobos have never even heard of the word before. So there is no basis for the addition of these people.

2. The addition of non-Igbo tribes in the South South. It is true that many of the minorities in the former Eastern Region were in the extinct Biafran republic but it must be emphasised that only a few of them commiserated with the cause. Currently, less than 1% of members of these ethnic minorities are sympathetic to the Biafran project. Many don't trust the motives of IPOB, which added them to maps without due consultation. The mistrust is further exacerbated by the reactions of IPOB youths online when confronted with the reality that members of minority tribes are NOT interested in Biafra.
I have been hearing the common idea of a referendum from IPOB and Igbos but as far as I am concerned, there won't be any referendum in the South-South because the people haven't asked for it. Referendums are conducted on request and no minority tribe has asked for any in line with the Biafran ideology. In the SE, an overwhelming majority subscribe to Biafra so there won't also be a need for any referendum as the outcome would be certain.
If IPOB is to succeed and attract sympathy, it should remain an IGBO affair as it is. After all, how many of the so-called minorities join in protests and the propagandist movement? Will they eat from where they did not work? From all the comments on the internet and the reality on ground, it is obvious even to the blind that minorities do not want Biafra. Why force yourself and your ideology on them? Isn't it wise to speak for only your ethnicity and agitate for an Igbo Biafra? If the minorities want Biafra, they should agitate for it then an agreement will be reached. Don't force it down their throats. Many of these minorities have strong voices in the nation because of their oil and Nigeria WILL NEVER let them go except the minorities themselves reject Nigeria -which I have not seen any doing-. If Biafra is to leave Nigeria smoothly, focus on Igboland and leave areas where Nigeria has huge investments in. It simply won't work as Nigeria won't lose Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Delta and Bayelsa, etc, without a fight! Biafrans should cater for their own first and if Biafra is achieved, she may then extend a hand of fellowship to the neighbouring groups.

3. Use of emotions, rather than logic and reason to make arguments. I will concede that this is shown mainly by the semi-literate IPOB member with an internet connection. If you come online to hear the arguments proferred for Biafra, many are ridden with tribalism against the Hausa-Yoruba. The Hausa-Yoruba are people too and have their own wishes and aspirations. You may not want to be in a country with them doesn't mean you should hate them. I also understand that they return the hate as well but the circle will never end if you guys don't get your priorities right. As an Urhobo, I have seen many comments by Igbos geared towards annexing us whether we want it or not. To them, the whole of Delta is Biafraland without even realising that Delta was never part of Biafra to begin with. This campaign of calumny, heightened by sentiments, have created enemies of many minorities. I have heard discussions by Urhobos/Itsekiris and even Ibibios about Igbo and Biafra and nothing good was said whatsoever. I won't blame them for it. They simply reacted to what they've seen, especially on the internet.

4. Playing Lugard. Although this is just a repetition of what I had said, I wish to emphasise again in concrete terms. The Igbos frequently reference Nigeria as the Lugardian experiment. This is totally correct. One of the problems in Nigeria is multilingualism. At the onset, we operated a regional system and tribalism was still a very serious issue. In fact, so bad was tribalism in the regional system that it caused a civil war. Biafra proponents frequently cite regionalism and resource control as the basis for the addition of non-Igbo speaking tribes to Biafra. If regionalism didn't work in a multiethnic Nigeria, what will be different in a multiethnic Biafra? A lot has happened since the previous agitation and many of the Nigerian minorities are genuinely wary of Nigeria's major ethnic groups, including the Igbos. You cannot sweep this under the carpet all of a sudden. IPOB should focus more on building bridges and building its public image to the minorities if they really want them in Biafra. You can't force people into a marriage that they don't want. Don't play Lugard all over again.

5. Lack of good strategy. If you need a nation. You have to get intellectuals - political scientists, economists, scientists, sociologists, lawyers, etc - to draw a map and make useful contributions to the cause. This is where MASSOB has done better than IPOB. Many of the modern day Biafran agitators are traders, who are not even in Igboland to begin with, semi-literates and pure illiterates. They lack the wherewithal to draw a good action plan that will involve all Igbos. Protests are good but what have they achieved so far? NOTHING!!! Biafra also needs a charismatic leader. Nnamdi Kanu preaches too much violence and he is a war-monger. Biafra tried violence in 1967 and it didn't work. You need a different strategy. Organise a think-tank, engage the many Igbo professors, scientists, business moguls, innovators, economists, politicians, etc, and draw a clear roadmap. You don't need to fight Nigeria to get Biafra. No one owns Nigeria so fighting her would be in vain. Once Biafra gets a clear vision and roadmap towards its actualization, many things will fall in place naturally. The campaign shouldn't be all about violent protests; you guys should go to towns and villages and sensitise people, write letters to heads-of-states, make more calls, use more coercive forms of protests such as civil disobedience, solidarity walk, etc. Protest more in Abuja, rather than the South East.



I have more issues with the movement but I have made my point with the few I have listed. Biafra is a good cause. Every ethnicity has the right to create its own destiny. No one can force any determined group into anything. Just the way Igbos struggle for their inalienable rights to determine her faith, so also should Igbos recognise the minorities' right to fashion their own destiny. No one should play Lugard with people's future. Let us correct the sins of the past. Every ethnic group is independent and has the capacity to become a nation-state.


God bless us all!
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by fratermathy(m): 12:25am On Mar 29, 2017
ExplorerReturns:
so you don't know that most of these bastads shouting we ss are afonjas? how can you know the will of a people if not through an election? so how can you know the will of the average Ibibio iron effik annang isoko itshekiris urhobo ijaw ogoni etc if not through referendum?
I don't know of any other tribe o but the ones I boldened have made it clear through Urhobo Progress Union, our apex group, that we are not interested in Biafra and do not need any referendum whatsoever. Even among the misguided SSners that support Biafra, YOU WILL NEVER FIND AN URHOBO-ISOKO!!!


Making the position known yesterday in a statement, National Publicity Secretary of the Urhobo Progress Union, UPU, Alhaji Mumakai-Unagha, warned that Urhobo and its territories should be counted out from any IPOB plan.
“IPOB have their rights of agitation for freedom of self determination as enshrined in the united nation declaration stressing that other ethnic groups should not be dragged along to avoid the mistake that led to the civil war.
“The magnanimity of Urhobos in allowing Igbos celebrate the Igbo Cultural Day should not be taken for granted as we urge IPOB to delist Urhobo from its proposed map.”
https://www.nairaland.com/2735702/urhobos-denounces-inclusion-proposed-biafran
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by fratermathy(m): 12:32am On Mar 29, 2017
While I do not speak for any of these groups below, I came across official statements from the groups asking Igbos specifically to respect their wishes and exclude them from Biafra. Every group is entitled to self-determination. The SS minorities certainly have made their stand clear!!!


Itsekiri people

The Itsekiri people in Warri, Delta state have dissociated themselves from the call and agitation of some Igbo people in the south east for an independent state of Biafra.
Vanguard reports that this was made known on Tuesday, October 27 by Itsekiri Leaders of Thought through a statement by its chairman Pa
Johnson Ayomike and secretary, Edward Ekpoko.
https://www.naij.com/620088-will-not-tolerate-another-igbo-invasion-itsekiri-people-dissociates-biafra.html


Gbaramatu Leaders

The leaders of Gbaramatu kingdom, Warri South West Local Government Area, Delta State, have warned that Gbaramatu kingdom is not part of Biafra.
Elder Dickson Agagha, who spoke on behalf of the leaders at a meeting in Warri, insisted that Gbaramatu kingdom will never be part of Biafra, saying that any son or daughter of the kingdom making such a move to include Gbaramatu in Biafra will fail.
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/gbaramatu-kingdom-not-part-of-biafra-community-leaders-warn/



Gov Wike

Wike Bans Protesters in Rivers state

In a state broadcast, Mr. Wike banned all forms of street protests, demonstrations, rallies or unlawful gatherings associated with the agitations for the secession of any group from the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
“Majority of these individuals have come from neighbouring states and in the course of these protests, disrupted social and economic activities, damaged properties, assaulted and inflicted injuries on other citizens going about their lawful endeavours.
www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/192971-gov-wike-bans-biafra-protests-in-rivers.html


River Elders and Leaders Council

He said Rivers Elders noted those with Biafra “sentiments have chosen to transport trailer and bus loads of demonstrators from neighbouring states into Port Harcourt. To say the least, this amounts to the display of bad political fate across our neighbouring borders.
Rivers Elders pointed out “The action so far taken by the Biafra protesters in Port Harcourt is highly provocative to all genuine sons and daughters of Rivers state who have so far restrained themselves from confronting the demonstrators in Port Harcourt.”
www.newsrescue.com/we-are-not-biafrans-never-say-rivers-elders/


Senator Godswill Akpabio

The Rivers Commissioner of Police, Musa Kimo, also noted that his command would not allow lawlessness or breakdown of law and order.
Senate minority leader Senator Godswill Akpabio also condemned the Biafran agitators. Speaking at the venue of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) conference in Abuja, Akpabio, a former Akwa Ibom State governor, called on the Federal Government and the states where the militias are protesting to stop the spread of the agitation.
“The Biafra agitators must be told that those who witnessed the Nigerian civil war will never wish to experience another war in their entire
lifetime.
“If you don’t like the government of the day, you must wait for another election to vote them out”, Akpabio said.
www.thenationonlineng.net/rivers-elders-reject-biafra/
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Bridget95(f): 3:30am On Mar 29, 2017
victorvezx:
Deep within them they know Biafra will never be actualised without total support of the Niger delta. Assuming Biafra is actualised without Niger delta, that means it will be landlocked and surrounded on all sides by only Nigeria, their enemy. They won't have free asses to the sea, they will be like prisoners that Nigeria have to take care off. They won't do anything without involving Nigeria, that's a fact landlocked countries face. Due to the hatred they have sown and continue to sow in the hearts of Nigerians, especially among the major tribes, it's going to be hell on earth for them. We will show the biafrans pure hatred when the time comes
your hatred can't do a poo. why can't you be yourselves.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Bridget95(f): 3:33am On Mar 29, 2017
mrvitalis:
I am against Biafra cos I think we igbos are the greatest beneficiaries of one Nigeria ..even a one Africa will benefit us more

Igbos wants South south not because of oil or gas (IMO and anambra has more gas than South south combined) but just because we won't feel safe in a landlocked country ...that's y I prefer akwa..cross joining the Biafra the even rivers and bayelsa ( very lazy and troublesome set of people)

Oil is not the problem of igbos but just Access to the sea
It is glaring that you are not igbo.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by nengibo: 6:01am On Mar 29, 2017
BiafranPound:
am from Opobo town... Opobo town bụ ebe m si a bịa
mrvtalis no mind dis osu igbo man denying his osu father, no opobo person speaks Igbo like dis. Liepods try again. Opobo man wey be iyc vice president
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Funlordjnr:
blues20:
No issue bro... its just that we need to maintain respect for each others, as long as its necessary.
See this one? Talking about respect! Nonsense! Now let me break something down for you...every since the day I gave you the sort of cyber beating you have never seen in your life over 8 months ago you have been pained and crying all over my mentions like the little girl you are! I must say your pain gladdens me a lot though! I actually even saw you cowardly referring to one of your fellow ignorant ipob youths that you wish you could fight me? Even with 4 hands you won't be able to fight me! You are just a cowardly cyber punk! Nothing more nothing less!


I am more brilliant than you, more respected than you, more important than you and lastly more influential than you in every sphere of life both online or offline so allow that sink into your skull 1st! All you do is go around creating foolish monikers, crying afonja up and down and trying to form like one tribal crusader like that useless prisoner called kanu in kuje! Instead of you to act like my reasonable igbo friends who make cash and believe in bettering their lives, those of their families and helping the country progress your own quota is to be acting foolish all over cyber space screaming about bia-fraud and spreading lies and propaganda all over the forum! I have ended the careers of greater nairaland nitwits so your own case would be like taking candy from a baby! Go and do a census amongst your fellow tribalist chums and see if any of them would dare to challenge me in discussing politics or in engaging in vitriol!


Now let me give you some expo...out of pity I will allow you use this account for a while...if you come writing nonsense all over my posts like a demented creature unnecessarily I will send mynd and seun to kick you back to the gallows where all your other accounts are currently chilling! If you are so pained by how I disgraced you once why don't you just go and open a thread and invite me there and watch the way I will come and decimate you on that thread too! Now go and find some afonjeezys to insult before going to beg your mummy for breakfast! Litttle boy!
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Kelsonic: 7:40am On Mar 29, 2017
Wic one is bastard again.....

Wen u c ur Father if u don't call him bastard it will never be well with u.
nengibo:
This bastarrd live Opobo out of ur madness
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Mckennedy: 8:08am On Mar 29, 2017
BiafranPound:
bịa nwo isioma, e bụ nwatakịrị! E maa a ịhe gaa nụ! angry
Couldn't understand nothing from the trash you wrote up there..#Igbowannabe
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:16am On Mar 29, 2017
Igbo only Biafra when they've already denied you? Okay.
BiafranPound:
angry angry grin

good , but pls we want Igbo only BIAFRA! thank you
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by ozoebuka1(m): 8:24am On Mar 29, 2017
robosky02:
if you think niger delta is a joke

then biafea too is a joke in the eyes of nigeria
kk, I thought I was engaging a smart fellow
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:30am On Mar 29, 2017
nengibo:
Who dash u opobo man. Idiot igbo
Leave him to be fooling himself.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:37am On Mar 29, 2017
are you people not ashamed? Bandtura just like me is an urhobo. Accept it or use the lagoon.[s]
greatnation2:
Another afonja claming Urhobo, I'm sure you are the same person with Biafranpoud, only you using three monikers here, I thought Nigerdelta warned your elders to stay clear from their region, your kinsmen in Kwara and Kogi need you guys help, we careless about other minorities in Nigerdelta, we are after Igbos there, go and do the same in Kwara and Kogi coward.
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Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:38am On Mar 29, 2017
mrvitalis:
No I am 100% sure ...of what I said
Oya go drill it naaa. What are you waiting for?
The worse thing that can happen to a man is when he feels he knows and does not know that he does not know. This is worse than ignorance or stupidity.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:42am On Mar 29, 2017
Mckennedy:
Amam na isi adigi gi n'nma Kedu ihe ima banyere ndigbo? Onye bu nna gi? Obodo ka o'si?
See them.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Nobody: 8:43am On Mar 29, 2017
nengibo:
Who dash u opobo man. Idiot igbo
Nengi just leave them to continue fooling themselves on nairaland. When the time comes they'll run to their Biafra/SE as usual.
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by hamilton62(m): 8:46am On Mar 29, 2017
realjoker:
This is My problem with liepod yoots. Once they are short of sane defense line to back up their busted lies they retort to throwing tantrums and name callings, . They label all facts that expose their lies as doctored and cooked up stories and want everyone to take their igberetv and beerfraudherald inspired facts derived from their wild imagination and self deception as the real fact.
Their line of arguments are based on emotions and lies told to them daily on radio beerfraud
Kid! have you forgotten that you started the harsh words before my reply: 'you toss me i rode hit you"?
cry me an ocean, cry baby!
Open you defunct kevlar skull or heart for knowledge then you will understand that you are IQ grounded!
Knowledge is power...
Ciao! for the last time because a lost soul is one that lacks knowledge of what he "thinks" he knows and still opaque against more vivid and hallmark enlightenment!
God bless you with this delusion state of persistent-no-upgrade!
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:48am On Mar 29, 2017
It must be really sad for your own people to reject you.
BiafranPound:
onye ịsị Nkpọchà! grin
Re: Why Are IPOBS Desperate Over South South Minorites? by Amberon: 8:53am On Mar 29, 2017
Baby factory product grin
KINGOFTHEEAST:
another waste
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