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Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:05pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
perhaps a good analogy is best to teach you this basic tenet of an argumentative discussion.

Mr A: i have a diamond ball
Mr B: I don't believe you do
Mr A: proof that i don't !
this is a classical example of what you are doing here, asking people to prove your own unproven propositions which is both nonsensical and consonant with the simple rules of argument

a better scenario should be

Mr A: i have a diamond ball
Mr B: i don't believe you do
Mr A: here it is [shows his diamond ball]




failing your own rules yet again - this is a good example of an unnecessary ad hominem



why not just show us and leave google out of it, i thought you are extremely intelligent
listen here young man, saying you can't prove a negative claim by logic is itself a negative claim, so it cannot be proven, think deeper bro, u boring me lol
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:06pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
even if that's a baby logic let me let that slide.
evasion and i will not have that - you have hit a wall today and no running away from it, you should asked before engaging me.

i am teaching you a lesson in your own game, there is a red cup on that table, please prove there isn't [ i thought you are good at asking proof for the negate, now chew on your own gum]

now my prove for God's existence is because Nothing does not exists
another classical example of saying my proof of tree fairies are trees. it doesn't work that way, you can't just point at an unrelated subject as proof of your opinion without deriving a compelling argument to bridge these subjects. i am still waiting for your argument.
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:08pm On Mar 29, 2017
adepeter26:
Na everything you dae allow slide @blogth*UG? Ayama not understanding oo
most of them are ignorant of basic logic, imagine a free thinker saying stuff like " u can't prove a negative claim " lol they don't know that by logic that statement is itself a Negative claim , which means it cannot be proven. I can't start teaching everyone now, will take years so I'd let some slide, I know where I'm going smiley
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:08pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
listen here young man, saying you can't prove a negative claim by logic is itself a negative claim, so it cannot be proven, think deeper bro, u boring me lol
no argument yet - page two already
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by CatfishBilly: 3:08pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
whether he interferes or not it's not relevant here
Your definition of a god is not complete.
My default position was that it interferes, you pointed that out as a strawman.
You gotta choose one bro. Your definition of god can either interfere or doesn't interfere, it can't sit on the fence.
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by niyihawking(m): 3:08pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
it's like a scientist asking another scientist " which nature exists ? " nature is nature and God is God, though no two scientists will describe Nature same way, so as no two religion will describe God same way , get it?
Now, this is bull sh*t

kindly quote two different versions of Nature
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:09pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
evasion and i will not have that - you have hit a wall today and no running away from it, you should asked before engaging me.

i am teaching you a lesson in your own game, there is a red cup on that table, please prove there isn't [ i thought you are good at asking proof for the negate, now chew on your own gum]

another classical example of saying my proof of tree fairies are trees. it doesn't work that way, you can't just point at an unrelated subject as proof of your opinion without deriving a compelling argument to bridge these subjects. i am still waiting for your argument.
u write very long trash , now answer me

Is God something or nothing?
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:09pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
most of them are ignorant of basic logic, imagine a free thinker saying stuff like " u can't prove a negative claim " lol they don't know that by logic that statement is itself a Negative claim , which means it cannot be proven. I can't start teaching everyone now, will take years so I'd let some slide, I know where I'm going smiley
example - "prove there isn't a red cup on this table" adepeter26 watch closely, he will evade and dodge

Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:10pm On Mar 29, 2017
niyihawking:
Now, this is bull sh*t

kindly quote two different versions of Nature
if u can't grasp a simple analogy, there is no point discussing with you, meet others for notes later
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:11pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
most of them are ignorant of basic logic, imagine a free thinker saying stuff like " u can't prove a negative claim " lol they don't know that by logic that statement is itself a Negative claim , which means it cannot be proven. I can't start teaching everyone now, will take years so I'd let some slide, I know where I'm going smiley
I'm not gonna engage myself into this else, you are gonna get lost. The debate and argument is getting hot on you.

Face them & not me cheesy
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:11pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
u write very long trash , now answer me
hahahahahahaha we are getting somewhere

Is God something or nothing?
i dont think there is God so just like a unicorn god can be said to be nothing more than a concept. why not you that argues for God define God and we will take on that from the principle of your definition.
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:13pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
if u can't grasp a simple analogy, there is no point discussing with you, meet others for notes later
Just admit that you pulled a very nasty flop, there is no two description of nature that contradicts either in principle or essence, so you gave a very wrong analogy... give us conflicting description of nature from these supposed scientists you talked about.
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:13pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
example - "prove there isn't a red cup on this table" adepeter26 watch closely, he will evade and dodge
I dae watch the film Johnny. shocked

I knew from page zero that he will end up shooting himself. cool

He was trying to drift right from 0-page but you gat him. Nice one..... wink

I hope this thread ends well without resulting to exchange of words cry
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by niyihawking(m): 3:15pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
if u can't grasp a simple analogy, there is no point discussing with you, meet others for notes later
Instead of you to unlearn and relearn now, you are proudingrin

kwantinu Prof
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by CatfishBilly: 3:15pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
hahahahahahaha we are getting somewhere

i dont think there is God so just like a unicorn god can be said to be nothing more than a concept. why not you that argues for God define God and we will take on that from the principle of your definition.
I'm waiting for him with that definition too.
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by felixomor: 3:16pm On Mar 29, 2017
adepeter26:
Felixomor is like the devil as portrayed in the bible. He has come neither to add or contribute but derail the thread cheesy

Watchout CatfishBilly
U urself
What have u contributed to the thread?
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:18pm On Mar 29, 2017
reminder - page 2, yet no argument
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:19pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
reminder - page 2, yet no argument
I see the thread going nowhere bro. don't you think so too?
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:20pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
example - "prove there isn't a red cup on this table" adepeter26 watch closely, he will evade and dodge
lol primary school logic,

lacking evidence for a red cup is never evidence for No cup , observations contrary to what is expected if a red cup exists is evidence for No cup, I know this will be hard take time to understand it
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by hopefulLandlord: 3:20pm On Mar 29, 2017
another failed thread

op has NO argument
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by niyihawking(m): 3:21pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
every claim comes with a burden of proof,

now listen carefully to logic

the statement " you can't prove a negative " is by logic a negative claim lol, so it means u can't prove that u can't prove a negative claim, get it?
grin grin grin
swahiliioooioo
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:24pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
lol primary school logic,

lacking evidence for a red cup is never evidence for No cup , observations contrary to what is expected if a red cup exists is evidence for No cup, I know this will be hard take time to understand it
you think so high of yourself even when you appear so puerile, we are yet to get a compelling proof that there is no red cup on that table - state these observations and reconcile them as proof of no cup on that table
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:24pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
hahahahahahaha we are getting somewhere

i dont think there is God so just like a unicorn god can be said to be nothing more than a concept. why not you that argues for God define God and we will take on that from the principle of your definition.
are concepts nothing or something?
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:25pm On Mar 29, 2017
niyihawking:
grin grin grin swahiliioooioo
do u think I'm wrong?
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:26pm On Mar 29, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
another failed thread
op has NO argument
I do actually, God exists
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:26pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
are concepts nothing or something?
concepts are basically ideas, child of the human mind.
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:28pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
you think so high of yourself even when you appear so puerile, we are yet to get a compelling proof that there is no red cup on that table - state these observations and reconcile them as proof of no cup on that table
I just showed that your logic is flawed sorry u couldn't grasp it, absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, this is primary school logic nau lol
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:28pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
I do actually, God exists
that is not an argument but just your opinion now kindly regale us the thrilling arguments in support of this opinion which you have provided none yet.

till then what he said stances - You have no argument
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:30pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
concepts are basically ideas, child of the human mind.
you are dodging like your life depends on it, answer my question, are concepts nothing or something? are ideas nothing or something? is the human mind nothing or something?
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(op): 3:31pm On Mar 29, 2017
johnydon22:
that is not an argument but just your opinion now kindly regale us the thrilling arguments in support of this opinion which you have provided none yet.

till then what he said stances - You have no argument
please stay focused on our chat, u are everywhere, or are u their leader? that question is meant for him to ask me to prove it lol
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:32pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
I just showed that your logic is flawed sorry u couldn't grasp it, absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, this is primary school logic nau lol
lol that is another way of saying i cannot hope to prove the negate that no cup is on that table - absence of evidence not evidence of absence is a mantra we hear everyday.

your task was simple, prove the negate, prove there is no cup on that table... stop jumping up and down.

we are heading to page 3 yet no argument presented, i am still patiently waiting for one
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:33pm On Mar 29, 2017
Blogthug:
I do actually, God exists
Are you a Diest?
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