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Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by johnydon22(m): 3:33pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug:just bring on the arguments and stop this digressing rigmaroles |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 3:41pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
johnydon22: and I answered u beautifully, u just don't grasp the explanation, no evidence of red cup on the table isn't proof that there isn't simply put, observing non existence of red cup isn't proof of nonexistence of red cup, but observing something contrary to what should be observed under existence is proof of nonexistence, if u are intelligent ud grasp this by now |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by CatfishBilly: 3:41pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Like I said, the guy is a troll, all huff and puff, no substance. Later he will be shouting intelligence up and down. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 3:45pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
CeoMYN:yes, I am, are u |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 3:47pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: seems you are bored, let me give u an argument if everything exists , then God exists refute! 2 Likes |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by donnffd(m): 3:52pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: Non-sequitur!!! there is no relation between everything and God(and i mean God from your definition) 3 Likes |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:53pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: No. I don't care whether God exists or not. Actually a diestic God don't have to prove his existence. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:56pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: In law, we call this a leading question. When we ask a question we know would always lead to a single conclusion thereby cornering the other party. It's a tactic used by dishonest people to win a court case. 1 Like |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 3:57pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
johnydon22: i know you're smart that's why I'm taking my time to help u understand this if u want to show that something doesn't exist, u cannot say showing it doesn't exist is evidence, that's a circular reasoning 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 3:58pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
A leading question is a question which subtly prompts the respondent to answer in a particular way. Leading questions are generally undesirable as they result in false or slanted information This is a tactic used by blogthug 2 Likes |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 3:59pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
CeoMYN: every claim needs to be proven which logically implies claim of existence and non existence 1 Like |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:01pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Jackofall: this not a leading question, it a logical question, is God something or nothing? if God is something then God cannot be nothing that will be a logical contradiction 1 Like |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:01pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
OP you said "capital G, which I will define as Creator of universe and origin of life, any deity that's defined this way fits to be called God, eg Allah, Brahman, Yahweh". This shows that you are hiding..... Saying you are a diest and using Allah, Yahweh and Brahman as examples. Are you really a diest? 3 Likes |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:02pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
donnffd: is God something or nothing? 2 Likes |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:03pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: Why is a God diestic? People always abuse the word God. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by oaroloye(m): 4:07pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
SHALOM! Blogthug: If Atheists were open-minded, we would have no trouble with them at all. Strawman A False Example they can easily demolish, claiming to have demolished your point. red herring A pointless diversion from the actual issue. non sequitor An irrelevant point. Ad hominem An attack on the person raising an issue, in order to divert from the issue. then let's get talking, if you don't, go google[b] and understand them, then we can get talking ait? if u won't then don't waste my time I doubt if any actual Atheists ever come online. What you are dealing with are SHILLS- people posing as legitimate Posters, just to obstruct the free-flow of information, and abort enlightenment. 1 Like |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by donnffd(m): 4:07pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: Something or nothing cannot be a property of a concept, Concepts are imaginary, they are not something neither are they nothing, those properties doesnt apply to concepts, so until you show that God is not a concept, your question is invalid! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:08pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
CeoMYN: if God is believed to be the cause of the universe and Allah, Brahman, Yahweh , prime mover is believed to be the creator of the universe is means They are God. tho God can be given different personalities that may differ within religions, doesn't change the fact that they mean the same thing, God! |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:08pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: So if you cannot prove that u can't prove a negative,that must mean you can prove a negative. OMG. This is weakening me. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:11pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: Non sequitur. You have broken all your rules over and over again. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:13pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
donnffd: because you say so? lol are u saying imaginary things are not something? |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:14pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: Bro you are not a diest. 1 Like |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by donnffd(m): 4:16pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: is it that you cant read?... i just said those properties dont apply to concepts, its like asking 'what color is the air?', thats an invalid question because color is not a property of air! Dude, i see your arguing skills are really weak. 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:17pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Jackofall: you think we are playing here abi? if u cannot prove that you can't prove a negative it means the claim "u can't prove a negative " by logic cannot itself be proven lol |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:21pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: Ur nature analogy is pure strawman. What's the correlation between nature and the different gods we have. Common u can do better than this. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:23pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
donnffd: see this baby logician lol no! its not like saying what colour is air, it's like saying its air something or nothing ? use proper anology nxt time, now lf concepts , ideas are not nothing or something, then what are they? I'm enjoying u display ignorance by the way lol |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:24pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Jackofall: how can an anology be a strawman? u people are wonderful here o lol |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:25pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: This is so wrong. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I can't believe this is coming from a supposed intelligent being. |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:27pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
CeoMYN: Im actually the creator of Nigerian union of deists whatsapp group with over 40 members, I am a deist, u don't have to like it, add 07034362071 to join |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Nobody: 4:28pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
[sup][/sup] Blogthug: Yet another strawman. Concept ofcourse are something, that doesn't mean that for example, the concept that humans are computer simulations is something. Whatever something means to you, it's just a strawman attempt by you. 1 Like |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by donnffd(m): 4:29pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Blogthug: I think i am now believing you are a troll. Air is something, it has the properties of something, it is perfectly valid to ask, is air something? On the otherhand, concepts cannot be in the same category, it is in a different category From what i am seeing, you are trying to say everything in the english language has to fall into either something or nothing...smh Mehn this is just a waste of time...chaow 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Can Make OPEN Minded Nairaland ATHEIST Believe In Gods Existence , Try Me by Blogthug(m): 4:29pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Jackofall: common bro, that's my point, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, the Jonny dude thought it was, u are on my side |
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