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Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by Secretgists: 7:35am On Apr 06, 2017
Russia's Supreme Court has begun hearing a government request to outlaw the Jehovah's Witnesses and declare it an extremist organisation. The justice ministry has already placed its headquarters near St Petersburg on a list of extremist groups. An estimated eight million people worldwide are part of the Christian-based movement, best known for going door to door looking for new converts. It... READ MORE

Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by fergie001: 7:44am On Apr 06, 2017
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Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by thesicilian: 7:50am On Apr 06, 2017
How is a harmless Christian sect like JW an extremist organization? I hope other Christians in the country like the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this. If they decide to keep quiet becauyit doesn't concern them, then it may be their turn next.

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Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by IncredibleJoe(m): 8:12am On Apr 06, 2017
thesicilian:
How is a harmless Christian sect like JW an extremist organization? I hope other Christians in the country like the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this. If they decide to keep quiet becauyit doesn't concern them, then it may be their turn next.

the belief of JW sometimes is unhealthy. they prefer to die rather than receive blood transfusion, they disown you if you marry outside d group. the group are kind of extremist except that they are peaceful.

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Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by joyandfaith: 8:19am On Apr 06, 2017
IncredibleJoe:


the belief of JW sometimes is unhealthy. they prefer to die rather than receive blood transfusion, they disown you if you marry outside d group. the group are kind of extremist except that they are peaceful.

can u provide the following stastics?
number of patients that died because they refused blood
number of patients died even after blood transfusion
Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by IncredibleJoe(m): 8:31am On Apr 06, 2017
joyandfaith:


can u provide the following stastics?
number of patients that died because they refused blood
number of patients died even after blood transfusion
I hope you know that medical statistics is unavailable in Nigeria but from my little experience in medical field, I know that blood transfusion is very important for patients with sickle cell, accident victims, post op patients with very low PCV. I once had a patient who had post partum hemorrhage, the blood level was dropping fast, we told dem she needed urgent blood transfusion , the husband declined becos they are JW. she died not long after that
Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by Ubenedictus(m): 8:34am On Apr 06, 2017
thesicilian:
How is a harmless Christian sect like JW an extremist organization? I hope other Christians in the country like the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this.
I dont support this, it is very wrong, freedom of religion is a fundamental right.

That said, jw are considered 'extremist' in russia not because they kill people or engage in violence but becos the russian state considers their teaching to be extreme.
Russia is a secular state in name only, in reality it is heavily affiliated to the Russia Orthodox Church...we kw jw do not play well with other church and considers them to be the babylon...etc the russian state believe those views to be intolerant, divisive and extreme to society in general and capable of fermenting hate, dislike...among the populace. Add that to the fact that jw are told not to vote, sing national anthem or serve in military...thus they are considered unpatriotic.

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Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by Ubenedictus(m): 10:56am On Apr 06, 2017
thesicilian:
I hope other Christians in the country like the Catholics, Anglicans, Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this. If they decide to keep quiet becauyit doesn't concern them, then it may be their turn next.
not very many people can lobby for the jw, First the catholics usually like carrying issue like this, but in russia catholic are a minority xtian church and have a 0.1% of christians population and have 0.00... of general russia population, the russian govt are even anti catholic. In April 2002, Bishop Jerry Mazur was stripped of his visa, forcing d appointment of a new bishop for that diocese. In 2002, 5 Catholic priests were denied visas to return to Russia, construction of a new cathedral was blocked in Pskov, and a church in southern Russia was shot at. They refused to register another catholic church and nothin happend even after court case was won, we also know jw dislike catholics, they wont accept help frm d 'LovePeddler of babylon'.

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Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by Ubenedictus(m): 11:19am On Apr 06, 2017
thesicilian:
Pentecostals etc will pray and lobby vehemently against this. If they decide to keep quiet becauyit doesn't concern them, then it may be their turn next.
Protestants are 0.2% of xtian churches in russia, they are also a minority, they do not have the influence, population or the power to affect these things or lobby with success, they are also considered foriegn religion in russia. and d jw also preach against them as part of d mystery of iniquity.

The church with the power to lobby in russia is d russian orthodox church with 87% of xtian population, the jw also hate them and preach against them, that way they made enemies with those who can help. The orthodox also dislike jw and accuse them of "Jehovists are a very closed group that affects society negatively, breaks up families, and arranges persecution
of those who desert their organisation" www2.stetson.edu/~psteeves/relnews/170327b.html
So i doubt they would help, d dislike seems mutual.
Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by Hairyrapunzel: 4:58pm On Apr 06, 2017
joyandfaith:


can u provide the following stastics?
number of patients that died because they refused blood
number of patients died even after blood transfusion

Can you provide the following statistics
Number of patients that survived because they accepted blood transfusion
Numberof patients that survived after blood transfusion
Re: Russia Moves To Completely Ban Jehovah's Witnesses by joyandfaith: 5:11pm On Apr 06, 2017
IncredibleJoe:

I hope you know that medical statistics is unavailable in Nigeria but from my little experience in medical field, I know that blood transfusion is very important for patients with sickle cell, accident victims, post op patients with very low PCV. I once had a patient who had post partum hemorrhage, the blood level was dropping fast, we told dem she needed urgent blood transfusion , the husband declined becos they are JW. she died not long after that

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