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Don't get me wrong, Jesus was the beginning of a huge Jewish breakoff movement and revolution that shook Eurasia and the Roman Empire, and birthed one of the major religions in the world today - Christianity - but was the man himself really all that impressive, and involved in spreading the Christian faith, compared to other historical figures?

For starters, his origin as a political and religious movement leader for a minority in the Roman empire is not unique. Similar uprisings occured in other Roman provinces, such as Boudicca and the Celts in Caledonia (now Britain), and the Gallic revolts in Francia (now France roughly). His teachings only fell on the ears of other Jews, who were the only ones he preached to. It was only after the rebellion faltered and Jesus died that St. Paul went on a pilgrimage throughout the Roman Imperium to convert non-jews like himself to Christianity, something that Jesus never did. Arguably, one could even say that the spread of Christianity in Europe was not by the hand of Jesus, but by Paul. Jesus's influence while he was alive did not spread far beyond the Levant, where local jews clashed with Roman imperial rule (similar to Boudicca and celts, and other movements in the Roman Imperium). Paul also changed some major aspects of the Christian faith (which at that point in time was literally Judaism + Jesus is the prophet) to make it more appealing to various tribes and peoples throughout Europe. As previously stated, modern Christianity was more spread and structured by St. Paul than it ever was by Jesus himself (maybe it should be cauled "Paulianity"? lol ).

Secondly, as a movement birthed from the oppression of Jews under the Roman-controlled Levant, the initial movements of Jesus and his followers alone were not nearly as impactful as some more contemporary movements during the time in which they existed. Take Che Guevara and Fidel Castro for instance, who fought a socialist war of independence against Pinochet just a few kilometers from American soil, and won. Or the huge confucian social transformation of historical China. Or the Civil Rights movement that shook the developed world just ~50 years ago. All of these movements had far larger, far more successful impact during their existence, and the proteges of said movements have strongly affected the world in similar ways to the abrahamic faiths.

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Oscar4real:
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Huh?

PhuckJesus666:
Don't get me wrong, Jesus was the beginning of a huge Jewish breakoff movement and revolution that shook Eurasia and the Roman Empire, and birthed one of the major religions in the world today - Christianity - but was the man himself really all that impressive, and involved in spreading the Christian faith, compared to other historical figures?

For starters, his origin as a political and religious movement leader for a minority in the Roman empire is not unique. Similar uprisings occured in other Roman provinces, such as Boudicca and the Celts in Caledonia (now Britain), and the Gallic revolts in Francia (now France roughly). His teachings only fell on the ears of other Jews, who were the only ones he preached to. It was only after the rebellion faltered and Jesus died that St. Paul went on a pilgrimage throughout the Roman Imperium to convert non-jews like himself to Christianity, something that Jesus never did. Arguably, one could even say that the spread of Christianity in Europe was not by the hand of Jesus, but by Paul. Jesus's influence while he was alive did not spread far beyond the Levant, where local jews clashed with Roman imperial rule (similar to Boudicca and celts, and other movements in the Roman Imperium). Paul also changed some major aspects of the Christian faith (which at that point in time was literally Judaism + Jesus is the prophet) to make it more appealing to various tribes and peoples throughout Europe. As previously stated, modern Christianity was more spread and structured by St. Paul than it ever was by Jesus himself (maybe it should be cauled "Paulianity"? lol ).

Secondly, as a movement birthed from the oppression of Jews under the Roman-controlled Levant, the initial movements of Jesus and his followers alone were not nearly as impactful as some more contemporary movements during the time in which they existed. Take Che Guevara and Fidel Castro for instance, who fought a socialist war of independence against Pinochet just a few kilometers from American soil, and won. Or the huge confucian social transformation of historical China. Or the Civil Rights movement that shook the developed world just ~50 years ago. All of these movements had far larger, far more successful impact during their existence, and the proteges of said movements have strongly affected the world in similar ways to the abrahamic faiths.

I stopped reading when you said Pinochet. You are wrong. Check!