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| Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 5:48pm On Apr 25, 2017*. Modified: 7:11pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
SHALOM! YOU SHOULD HAVE READ MY EARLIER POST: "AM I A BAD GUY FOR SAYING THAT "RAPE IS NOT A SIN?" [color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5. 32. What thing soever I Command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. IF there arise among you a Prophet, or a Dreamer of Dreams, and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder, 2. And the Sign or the Wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, "LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS, WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM;" 3. Thou shalt not hearken unto The Words of that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams: for The LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love The LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4. Ye shall walk after The LORD your God, and fear Him, and keep His Commandments, and obey His Voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him. 5. And that prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from The LORD your God, Which brought you out of the Land of Egypt, and Redeemed you out of the House of Bondage, to thrust thee out of The Way which The LORD thy God Commanded thee to walk in. [color=silver].[/color] 1st JOHN 3:4. 4. Whosoever committeth Sin transgresseth also The Law: for Sin is the Transgression of The Law. ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, IT IS TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW OF GOD THAT IS DEFINED AS SIN. If there is anything wrong with that interpretation, PLEASE TELL ME, RIGHT NOW! [color=silver].[/color] NUMBERS 15:27-31. 27. "And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a Sin offering. 28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before The LORD, to make an Atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him. 29. "Ye shall have One Law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among The Children of Israel, and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them. 30. "But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD, and hath Broken His Commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his Iniquity shall be upon him." WHEREAS, DELIBERATE BREAKING OF THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD IS DEFINED AS "INIQUITY." This is very interesting, in the light of the fact that YAHSHUA specifically warned that he would REJECT CHRISTIANS because of their INIQUITIES. [color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:12-29. 12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is The Law and The Prophets. 13. "Enter ye in at the Strait Gate: for Wide is the Gate, and Broad is the Way, that leadeth to Destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. "Because Strait is the Gate, and Narrow is The Way, which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find it. 15. "Beware of False Prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16. "Ye shall know them by their Fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17. "Even so every good tree bringeth forth Good Fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit. 18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit, neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit. 19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit is hewn down, and cast into The Fire. 20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them. 21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth The Will of my Father Which is in Heaven. 22. "Many will say to me in That Day, 'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?' 23. "And then will I profess unto them, 'I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.' 24. "Therefore whosoever heareth these Sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a Wise Man, which built his House upon a Rock: 25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that House; and it Fell not: for it was founded upon a Rock. 26. "And every one that heareth these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a Foolish Man, which built his house upon the Sand: 27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that House; and it Fell: and Great was The Fall of it." 28. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these Sayings, the People were astonished at his Doctrine: 29. For he Taught them as One having Authority, and not as the scribes. KENNETH COPELAND CITED TWO CASES OF WOMEN HE HAD MET, WHO HAD BEEN TOLD THAT THEY HAD COMMITTED "THE UNPARDONABLE SIN," BECAUSE THEY HAD CUT THEIR HAIR! One of them suffered a Nervous Breakdown as a result of trying to pray for forgiveness of an "UNPARDONABLE SIN" that did NOT EXIST, and became DEVIL-POSSESSED, and BEDFAST, who he discovered, going door-to-door preaching after a failed Programme. He delivered her, and started a Revival. WE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE UP SINS THAT DO NOT EXIST. In light of the Truth that RAPE IS NOT A SIN, what then should be the ATTITUDE and CONDUCT of Believers in God? Instead of GNASHING YOUR TEETH AT ME- as if I WROTE The Bible- why doesn't anyone have SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY? [color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:1-6. "JUDGE not, that ye be not judged. 2. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, 'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;' and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? 5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." THERE ARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT THINGS TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS "INCONVENIENT TRUTH." CURSING ME cannot be ONE of them. I find it totally-ridiculous and disgusting that CHRISTIAN VIRGINS AND MOTHERS have NOTHING to say about this. When and if THEY, their FRIENDS, or their CHILDREN are RAPED, perhaps they will remember that GOD SENT SOMEONE TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO- and they REFUSED- causing the MESS they find themselves bowed under? [color=silver]dryakson; Khaytunchi; adekzy; Loj; aloloatee; Setaje; jonnyp; adebisema; wolesmile; ahamdaman; contra; emartu[/color]
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| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by Cleopatra4(f): 5:58pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
Really?? Are you encouraging rape then? ![]() |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 6:55pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
SHALOM! Cleopatra4:DOES IT LOOK LIKE I AM ENCOURAGING RAPE? I am trying to encourage INTELLIGENCE! But I have COMPLETELY FAILED at that! If GOD has decreed that RAPE IS NOT A SIN, what is the LOGICAL NEXT STEP? [color=silver].[/color] LUKE 14:25-35. 25. And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto them, 26. "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my Disciple. 27. "And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my Disciple. 28. "For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it? 29. "Lest haply, after he hath laid the Foundation, and is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock him, 30. "Saying, 'THIS MAN BEGAN TO BUILD, AND WAS NOT ABLE TO FINISH.' 31. "Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32. "Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace. 33. "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my Disciple. 34. "Salt is good: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be seasoned? 35. "It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; but men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."
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| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by sonofthunder: 10:01pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
pls come back and explain your analogy further... |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by Nobody: 11:13pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
Wow...must be more to the statement.... |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 3:14am On Apr 26, 2017 |
SHALOM! sonofthunder:WHAT "ANALOGY?" There is no ANALOGY here! Did you even bother to read my previous Topic, like I suggested? |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 3:22am On Apr 26, 2017*. Modified: 4:07am On Apr 26, 2017 |
SHALOM! MZLady39:OF COURSE THERE IS! However, why is it that SOMEONE ELSE must do all the WORK for you? Why can NO ONE HERE THINK FOR THEMSELVES? Is it not because THE PASTORS TEACH YOU to LET THEM do your HEAVY THINKING for you? Isn't THAT why 99.99% of Christians NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING, because they PARKED THEIR BRAINS IN THE.CAR PARK, when they went to church? THERE ARE FOUR TYPES OF PEOPLE: 4. SHEEP: who know the voice of their shepherd, and follow him around, bur flee from strangers. They bear their fruit (wool) constantly. They have parted hooves, and digest all their food by chewing the cud. 3. GOAT: they have almost the same characteristics as the SHEEP, except that, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, they CANNOT bear fruit (goat hair) like the sheep. 2. PIGS: have cleft hooves, but do not chew the cud. They are known for eating total garbage abhorrent to SHEEP and GOATS. They appreciate a good bathing- but when it gets hot, they go and lie in filthy mud again, because they are so fat. FUN FACT: FAT contains interesting TOXINS that cannot be excreted by the body, which would KILL the body instantly, were they all released at once. This is what KILLS "DRY FASTERS" and Fasters who only drink their usual amount of water in the first week. FUN FACT: PIG SKIN makes great drums. FUN FACT: PIGS can track by smell even better than DOGS. 1. DOGS: do not part the hoof, nor chew the cud. They eat total garbage that SHEEP and GOATS abhor, but PIGS can enjoy with them. They have the disgusting habit of vomitting things too tough for them to digest, leaving it, then coming back to eat it later. There is no common market for DOG PRODUCTS. (*Yuck!*) They make great sentries and hunters. WHICH OF THESE ANIMAL CHARACTERISTICS FITS YOU? |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by ifenes(m): 3:28am On Apr 26, 2017 |
The bible god basically cared only about his own feelings. Worship him alone and not the other Gods. Reminds me of a severely insecure girlfriend. The rape part absurd and terrible, exactly what you expect from Boko haram. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 5:36am On Apr 26, 2017*. Modified: 4:09pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
SHALOM! ifenes:EVERY ISRAELITE COULD TRACE THEIR ANCESTRY BACK TO ADAM AND EVE. Do you understand the significance of that? NO! EVEN BECAUSE ATHEISTS ARE ALL IDIOTS, INCAPABLE OF THINKING LOGICALLY WITH ALL RELEVANT FACTORS, SO YOU DISCARD THE ONES THAT TAX YOUR LOW-WATTAGE BRAINS TOO MUCH, AND THEN ACCUSE GOD OF BEING "ILLOGICAL!" All Israelites carried with them list of all of their male ancestors going back to Adam and Eve. They surely had stories about them that were not in any books. These would be useful in identifying impostors. ALL CHILDREN OF ISRAEL RECOGNIZED THAT THEY CAME FROM THREE NOTABLE ANCESTORS, WHO OWED THEIR EXISTENCE TO GOD: ADAM: who was created directly by God from earth. NOAH: whose life was spared by God in The Great Flood. ABRAM: who had no legitimate son by age 99, his wife SARAI being barren by age 90. GOD MANIFESTED TO THEM PHYSICALLY, AND INFORMED THEM THAT HE WOULD ENABLE THEM TO HAVE A SON. All Children of Israel believed themselves to be the descendants of this child, ISAAC, and of his son, YACOB. YACOB wrestled with a Spirit Being, who Blessed him, and gave him the Name: ISRAEL. One of his TWELVE SONS became instrumental in saving their whole clan through PRECONITIVE ABILITY. However, this lead to their descendants becoming SLAVES to an EMPIRE, unable to leave. GOD raised up a BENJAMINITE named MOSES, and backed him with UNPRECEDENTED TELEKINETIC POWERS, and liberated the Children of ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and YACOB as he had predicted to ABRAM, centuries before. THE DEAL WAS THAT THESE DESCENDANTS SERVE HIM, AND HIM ALONE. Given their HISTORY, which they ALL BELIEVED IN and KNEW, how would it make any sort of SENSE for them to LEAVE The GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and YACOB, and worship ANOTHER GOD, who was NEVER there for them, and who was only going to EAT THEIR SOULS at their deaths- whereas HE was offering them ALL of the Power He displayed through MOSES- THE THIRD ATTENTION? FIRST ATTENTION: "Normal" Consciousness and Spiritual Energy levels- which are, in actual fact, only 10% and 1% what they should be, respectively.THE THIRD ATTENTION: once one has passed the FIFTH stage of SPIRITUAL ENERGY REHABILITATION, instead of attaining a SIXTH level, one's Energy instantly "JUMPS" to a TENTH level. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] In this state one can TALK TO GOD on a ONE-TO-ONE basis, AND LIVE. Such persons CANNOT DIE, nor be KILLED. This is what YAHSHUA called "EVERLASTING LIFE," and is what YAHWEH GOD ALONE had been STEERING MANKIND TOWARD THE WHOLE TIME. How do YOU express your GRATITUDE TO GOD for this UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY, offered ny NO ONE ELSE? Reminds me of a severely insecure girlfriend.THAT'S RIGHT: YOU BELIEVE THAT THE APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO THE LORD GOD STRICTLY PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY AND USEFULNESS OF THE SECOND AND THIRD ATTENTION MESSENGERS HE COMMANDED TO BRING THIS POWER TO YOU, TO STOP YOUR PAIN, TO HEAL YOU, AND TO ENABLE YOU TO ATTAIN IMMORTALITY, IS TO COMPARE HIM TO YOUR RETARDED GIRLFRIENDS! The rape part absurd and terrible, exactly what you expect from Boko haram.YOUR FOOLISHNESS AND STUPIDITY IS AS EXPECTED OF AN IGNORANT ATHEIST, WHO WAS NEVER EDUCATED IN DIVINE WISDOM. You are a RETARD, and, though it was YOUR DUTY to BETTER yourself, you didn't. HAPPENS. BUT WHAT EXCUSE HAVE THE WORSHIPPERS OF GOD FROM ANTIQUITY HAD, MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN- FATHERS, MOTHERS, SONS, DAUGHTERS- TO WHOM RAPE WAS A CLEAR-AND-PRESENT-DANGER, IN EVERY GENERATION, TO BEHAVE AS IF IT WERE NOT THEIR PROBLEM??! YAHSHUA expressed ANGER when HE came to town one day, and was about to HEAL somebody, and the people were ALL in AGREEMENT: "IF YOU HEAL THAT GUY TODAY, WE WILL KILL YOU- 'COZ IT'S THE WRONG DAY!" Yahshua was like: "YOU GUYS ARE SO RIGHTEOUS- STONING SABBATHBREAKERS FOR OBEYING THE SAME-DAY COMMANDMENT TO ALLEVIATE EVEN OUR ENEMY'S BURDENS- WHAT DAY DO YOU HEAL PEOPLE ON, THEN?" There was a young man, who was DEVIL-POSSESSED since CHILDHOOD: the NINE Disciples tackled his case, while YAHSHUA showed PETER, JAMES, and JOHN what THE THIRD ATTENTION AND IMMORTALITY look like. THEY WERE READY TO STONE THE NINE- because they didn't SOLVE THEIR Problen for them in sixty minutes or less! Whereas, NONE OF THEM had done anything about it. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by sonofthunder: 8:43am On Apr 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:okay, I guess I missed it. But kinda weird though. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by sonofthunder: 9:04am On Apr 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:Your description of 'ATTENTIONS' is based/sourced on/from? |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 10:41am On Apr 26, 2017 |
sonofthunder:Sorry: I write in haste, and forgot to list my reference. See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by sonofthunder: 2:21pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:can you share a link to the PDF? p.s. I don't really believe some of those stuffs though. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 4:06pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
SHALOM! sonofthunder:WHAT! That is PIRACY! Just kidding! If you want to find any book online, type its title in a Search Engine, along with the abbreviation "PDF." If you don't find it, it is not online. The man has been dead for nearly twenty years. You might search File-Sharing Sites such as MEDIAFIRE and 4ShARED. In Nigeria, you can probably find it on sale with GLENDORA or MANNABOOKS. It is very unintelligent of you to say that you do not believe in teachings you have never read before. This man has explained exactly how ALL forms of Spirituality work. He did in forty years what the Protestant Churches could not do in 500 years. He did it by putting his own neck on the line. (At one point, he got chased by a Mountain Lion, just because his Benefactor wanted him to learn something- namely, what people can do when they FOCUS their minds. He performed virtually SuperHuman athletic feats that night!) You who never bothered to learn nor do any works at all, are going to criticize a PhD in Anthropology, who did such risky field work, all by himself? |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by sonofthunder: 5:17pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:I already know about such 'schools of thought', just didn't know about your 'mentor' nor any of his works... |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 7:24pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
sonofthunder:This man was very different from most. If you have never heard of him, despite your own research, it is a given that you were steered away from the information, by Gatekeepers- because it is indeed HUGE. What about SCIENTOLOGY? What about THE CELESTINE PROPHECY? I have been in Groups purportedly dedicated to those Revelations- and they were all talking total crap- which I only knew, because I had prior Knowledge. A Novice would have been totally sucked in, and rendered useless. The same thing happens in supposedly Full Gospel Christian Groups. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by blueAgent(m): 9:08pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
ifenes:I pity you. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by blueAgent(m): 9:16pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
Stop deceiving people with all this fake misinterpreted Scriptures. 1 Thessalonians 5:22King James Version (KJV) 22 Abstain from all appearance of Sin. Of course Rape is one of such Secondly JESUS said in Matthew 5:28 27You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. How do you justify Rape when only mere looking at a Woman lustfully is already counted as Sin against God? For a Man to Rape a woman he must have concieved the thought Notured it and manifest it by Rape and all is Sin before God. I have told you before quit posting fake misinterpreted Bible verses. God would not leave you unpunished. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by Nobody: 9:19pm On Apr 26, 2017 |
oaroloye:Brother, "Sighs again" Huh? I just asked an innocent question. I'm sorry. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 5:05am On Apr 27, 2017 |
SHALOM! blueAgent:The Writings of PAUL are not SCRIPTURE. Of course Rape is one of suchSIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD. Adding things to The COMMANDMENT of God that are not there, and taking things away IS SPECIFICALLY DECLARED A SIN. Deuteronomy 12:32. [32]What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. Secondly JESUS said in Matthew 5:28This is not what THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES says. The Lord Yahshua said that he had not come to destroy THE LAW. THE LAW COMMANDED that there is to be judged a DIFFERENCE between RAPE and ADULTERY, whereby ADULTERY is a CAPITAL SIN, demanding SUMMARY EXECUTION, while a RAPIST of an UNATTACHED WOMAN merely needs to drop some cash, and gets to walk, if the FATHER decides that he cannot have his daughter to wife. That is the ONLY Right the RAPE VICTIM has. How do you justify Rape when only mere looking at a Woman lustfully is already counted as Sin against God?What I say is THE LAW OF GOD. What YOU say is MERE CONJECTURE. For a Man to Rape a woman he must have concieved the thought Notured it and manifest it by Rape and all is Sin before God.That is MERE Pharisee Reasoning. RAPE is only punishable when it is committed against a woman who ALREADY BELONGS TO ANOTHER MAN. If a man RAPED a woman who was neither BETROTHED nor MARRIED, how could it possibly be "ADULTERY?" Therefore, when YAHSHUA talked about "LOOKING ON A WOMAN," he was talking about looking on a woman WHO ALREADY BELONGS TO ANOTHER MAN. Which is already covered under THE LAW: [color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 20:17. 17. "Thou shalt not Covet thy Neighbour's House, thou shalt not Covet thy Neighbour's Wife, nor his Manservant, nor his Maidservant, nor his Ox, nor his Ass, nor Any Thing that is thy Neighbour's." TO DIGRESS SLIGHTLY: In OFFICIAL Roman Catholic textbooks (bearing the NILS IMPRIMATUR seal,) THS SECOND COMMANDMENT, forbidding IDOLATRY is SUMMARILY REMOVED, while the THE TENTH COMMANDMENT is DECEITFULLY SPLIT IN TWO, to COVER UP the fact that ONE of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS has been DESTROYED by them! Nobody is talking about that, except for THE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS. Therefore creating a REDUNDANT ADULTERY COMMANDMENT. This becomes relevant to the current discussion, because OYINBO THEOLOGIANS ATTEMPTED to tell Christians that LOOKING ON THEIR OWN WIVES, TO LUST AFTER THEM IN THEIR HEARTS, was ADULTERY! (True Story!) Yahshua never preached in ENGLISH nor GREEK, so the TRANSLATORS GOT IT WRONG, and wrote "WOMAN" where "WIFE" was intended. . MATTHEW 23:1-4. THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples, 2. Saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4."For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers." OYINBO BECAME LITERALLY INSANE, TRYING TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF HAVING BEAUTIFUL AND EVEN SEXY WIVES, WITHOUT LUSTING AFTER THEM IN THEIR HEARTS. Which is like telling a Math Pupil to DIVIDE BY ZERO. THEREFORE they became HYPOCRITES- LYING about their feelings to themselves and their fellow priests and parishioners. THEREFORE THE HOLY GHOST could NEVER gain ACCESS to those Churches, and the dominance of the Roman Catholic Church, with its Celibate Clergy, Monks, and Nuns remained SAFE. If the Roman Catholic felt remorse at "lusting after their own wife in their heart," they could blow it off to their Confessor, and he would "absolve" them. But the PROTESTANT Churches, which did not DO "CONFESSIONAL" (a root cause of every Christian Problem,) had no such "safety-valve," and became broken down by guilt and fear, hate, anger, envy, developing aberrated personalities to hide from themselves what they really were. Their wives find they have MARRIED A MADMAN, who feels ASHAMED for merely THINKING ABOUT THEM- and THEY want DIVORCE.... I have told you before quit posting fake misinterpreted Bible verses. God would not leave you unpunished.It is so disgusting that you exalt yourself to a point where you think you can give orders to other Brethren, whom you accuse of doing what you yourself are doing. [color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:1-6. "JUDGE not, that ye be not judged. 2. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy Brother, 'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;' 5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy Brother's eye. 6. "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO HELP BRETHREN WHOM YOU HAVE SADDLED WITH THE CRUSHING BURDEN OF NOT LUSTING AFTER THEIR OWN WIVES IN THEIR HEARTS- BECAUSE IT IS "ADULTERY", ACCORDING TO YOU? You don't HAVE one, DO YOU? Also, do YOU plan to woo a wife, marry her, and have children- all without ANY lust for her in your heart, which would be ADULTERY? Surely not. Your kind just CREATE DOCTRINES to serve some SHORT-TERM END- to CONDEMN someone you HATE. You don't see the END OF THE ROAD you have jumped onto . |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by blueAgent(m): 8:54pm On Apr 29, 2017 |
Read and learn the truth . not that your distored article. Deuteronomy 22:25–27 specifies the punishment the Mosaic Law required for a man who raped a betrothed woman. The man was to be killed by stoning while the woman was considered innocent. Though the Mosaic Law was for the nation of Israel during the time of Moses, the principle is clear that rape is sinful in the eyes of God and, under the Law, led to the most extreme punishment possible—death for the rapist. There are some difficult passages in the Old Testament in relation to this issue. One is Deuteronomy 22:28–29 , “If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” If the rape victim was not betrothed, then the rapist faced different consequences. We must see Deuteronomy 22:28–29 through the lens of ancient culture. In those days, social convention treated women poorly. They couldn’t own property. They couldn't get a job to support themselves. If a woman had no father, husband, or son, she had no legal protection. Her options were slavery or prostitution. If an unmarried woman wasn’t a virgin, it was extremely difficult for her to get married. If she wasn’t marriageable, her father didn’t have much use for her. God’s punishment on the rapist of a virgin—a monetary fine and lifelong responsibility— was designed to deter rape by holding the rapist responsible for his actions. He ruined her life; it was his responsibility to support her for the rest of her life. This may not sound fair to modern ears, but we don’t live in the same culture they did. In 1 Samuel 13, Prince Amnon raped his half-sister, Tamar. The horror and shame of being violated yet unmarried made Tamar beg him to marry her (her half-brother!), even after he had rejected her. And her full-brother, Absalom, was so disgusted with the situation that he murdered Amnon. That’s how highly virginity in women was prized back then. Critics of the Bible also point to Numbers 31 (and similar passages) in which the Israelites were allowed to take female captives from nations they conquered. Critics say this is an example of the Bible’s condoning or even promoting rape. However, the passage says nothing about raping the captive women. It is wrong to assume that the captive women were to be raped. The soldiers were commanded to purify themselves and their captives (verse 19). Rape would have violated this command (see Leviticus 15:16–18 ). The women who were taken captive are never referred to as sexual objects. Did the captive women likely eventually marry amongst the Israelites? Yes. Is there any indication that rape or sex slavery was forced upon the women? Absolutely not. In the New Testament, rape is not mentioned directly, but within the Jewish culture of the day, rape would have been considered sexual immorality . Jesus and the apostles spoke against sexual immorality, even offering it as justifiable grounds for divorce (Matthew 5:32 ). Further, the New Testament is clear that Christians are to obey the laws of their governing authorities (Romans 13). Not only is rape morally wrong; it is also wrong according to the laws of the land. As such, anyone who would commit this crime should expect to pay the consequences, including arrest and imprisonment. To the victims of rape, we must offer much care and compassion. God’s Word often speaks about helping those in need and in vulnerable situations. Christians should model the love and compassion of Christ by assisting victims of rape in any way possible. People are responsible for the sins they commit, including rape. However, no one is beyond the grace of God. Even to those who have committed the vilest of sins, God can extend forgiveness if they repent and turn from their evil ways (1 John 1:9 ). This does not remove the need for punishment according to the law, but it can offer hope and the way to a new life. oaroloye |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 1:53pm On May 01, 2017*. Modified: 6:10pm On May 03, 2017 |
SHALOM! blueAgent:As I have already explained, this passage has nothing whatsoever to do with "RAPE," but ADULTERY. There are some difficult passages in the OldThe Rapist is not treated as someone who has done something WRONG- merely as someone who has acquired a COMMODITY- just used another METHOD of ACQUIRING A WIFE. Nothing extraordinary. There is no "difficulty" here, except of ADDING something to The Commandment that IS NOT THERE. That the sex was NOT Consensual is considered AN IRRELEVANT. We must see Deuteronomy 22:28–29 throughThat is a complete lie. THE WITCH OF ENDOR was neither a slave, nor a prostitute. I wonder whom you think sold goods in the markets, or spun the thread and wove the cloth for clothes. They didn't have inns and cafes? Modern Oyinbos arrogantly presume anyone else to be a Savage- as they always have. If an unmarried woman wasn’t aNone of this rambling has produced any COMMANDMENT OF GOD stating that RAPE IS A SIN. Critics of the Bible also point to Numbers 31This rhetoric is consistent with JEHOVAH'S WITLESS literature. The soldiers wereThis is the WORST Religious Rhetoric ears ever heard! [color=silver].[/color] LEVITICUS 15:16-30. 16. "And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. 17. "And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even. 18. "The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even.” What has this got to do with anything? Sexual Intercourse renders a person Unclean- no matter who it is with. Cleanliness is irrelevant to what is being discussed, and you know that. After 30 days of Ritual Closure, the woman can now be bleeped- in all senses of the word. THAT IS RAPE- because she is a CAPTIVE. The women who were taken captive are neverWHAT YOU HAVE JUST SAID IS A PACK OF HORRIBLE LIES! [color=silver].[/color] LUKE 8:11-12. 11. "Now the Parable is this: 'THE SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD. 12. 'THOSE BY THE WAY SIDE ARE THEY THAT HEAR; THEN COMETH THE DEVIL, AND TAKETH AWAY THE WORD OUT OF THEIR HEARTS, LEST THEY SHOULD BELIEVE AND BE SAVED.' " [color=silver].[/color] JAMES 1:22-25. 22. But be ye Doers of The Word, and not Hearers only, deceiving your own selves. 23. For if any be a Hearer of The Word, and not a Doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24. For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25. But whoso looketh into The Perfect Law of Liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a Forgetful Hearer, but a Doer of The Work, this man shall be Blessed in his Deed. THE INIQUITOUS HATE THE WORD OF GOD. Therefore, when they read The Bible, they quickly relinquish all responsibility for The Word, and let THE DEVIL take it away, out of their hearts. [color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 21:10-14.THIS IS WHY- IN THE ATHEISTIC SOVIET UNION, WHEN CHRISTIANS WERE CAUGHT WITH THE BIBLE- WHICH WAS ILLEGAL- THE CHARGE WAS "DISTRIBUTING PORNOGRAPHIC LITERATURE." The Bible says what It means, and means what It says. I don't know what they told you, when you were, maybe 9 years old, and this came up in Sunday School. "WHAT HAPPENED NEXT, SISTER INFERIOR?" "THEY WENT HOME TOGETHER AND... UH, PLAYED MUMMIES AND DADDIES TOGETHER!" "YOU MEAN THEY PLAYED MUSICAL CHAIRS, AND HIDE AND SEEK?" "ERRR... SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YES!" Listen up! You are now in GROWN-UP CLASS- and we do not hide behind euphemisms, but call a 'Ho a Ho and not a Gardening Tool- got it? The man HAS A DESIRE FOR THE WOMAN! What do you think that means? WALT DISNEY, or HANNA-BARBERA CARTOON LOVE? You think he took her home, dressed her up, and made eyes at her across the dinner table? [color=silver].[/color] GENESIS 3:16.THIS IS ANOTHER LIE. THE NEW TESTAMENT does not dictate what is and what is not a SIN: ONLY THE TORAH can do that. [color=silver].[/color] MARK 7:5-13. 5. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, "Why walk not thy Disciples according to the Tradition of the Elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?" 6. He answered and said unto them, "Well hath Esaias prophesied of you Hypocrites, as it is written, 'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME WITH THEIR LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.' 8. "For laying aside The Commandment of God, ye hold The Tradition of Men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do." 9. And he said unto them, "Full well ye reject The Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own Tradition. 10. "For Moses said, 'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;' and, 'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER, LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:' 11. "But ye say, 'If a man shall say to his father or mother, "IT IS CORBAN, THAT IS TO SAY, A GIFT, BY WHATSOEVER THOU MIGHTEST BE PROFITED BY ME;" HE SHALL BE FREE.' 12. "And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; 13. "Making The Word of God of none effect through your Tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye." JEWISH TRADITIONS ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE DETERMINATION OF SIN AND RIGHTEOUSNESS. Further, the New Testament is clear thatAS I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE: PAUL WAS NEVER A CHRISTIAN, AND HAS NO RIGHT TO INVENT COMMANDMENTS AND REDEFINE RIGHTEOUSNESS FOR US. He NEVER saw Yahshua in the Sky, nor anywhere. His PURPOSE, From The Beginning, was to DESTROY THE CHURCH. CHRISTIANS DO NOT HAVE TO OBEY THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES, WHERE THEIR LAWS VIOLATE THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. [color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 6:24. 24. "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." IF WE HAVE TO OBEY "THE GOVERNING AUTHORITIES," LORD YAHSHUA WOULD HAVE HANDED HIMSELF OVER TO HEROD WHEN HE WANTED TO SEE HIM, OR TO THE SANHEDRIN, WHEN THEY DEMANDED HIS ARREST. We are Commanded to follow YAHSHUA- not OPINIONS OF MEN. To the victims of rape, we must offer muchThis is how YOU create the RAPE VICTIMS!
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| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 6:11pm On May 03, 2017 |
blueAgent:I count SCIENTOLOGY as part of my learning. "AUDITING" is an advanced form of counselling, that does not cast out DEVILS, rather, it "casts out" THE HANDLES AND FOOTHOLDS THEY NEED TO HOLD PLACE IN THEIR VICTIMS. The AUDITOR has to adhere to a set of strict rules, called THE AUDITOR'S CODE. The Auditor’s Code is a fundamental tool of auditing and of life. As L. Ron Hubbard wrote in Dianetics, “the Auditor’s Code outlines…the conduct survival pattern of Man. The Clear operates more or less automatically on this code.” Because the basic axioms of Dianetics and Scientology comprise the fundamentals of thought itself, what works in auditing also works in life.I BRING THIS UP, BECAUSE I WANT TO SHOW YOU CLAUSE 8. 8. I PROMISE NOT TO SYMPATHIZE WITH A PRECLEAR, BUT TO BE EFFECTIVE. "SYMPATHY" in this context, means: "TO THINK AND FEEL CERTAIN THINGS, BECAUSE OF SOMEONE ELSE." If someone was RAPED, what do people do? There is a supposed joke about a headmistress who was preparing a rape victim for her Police Interview. "First thing you must do, is to go to the fridge, and suck half a lemon!"God help you, if you think that is funny! When a girl reports being raped, everyone wants to SYMPATHIZE- they call it! "OO-O-OOH!!! AAAHHH! SO-O-O SO-R-R-R-Y-Y!" SCIENTOLOGY teaches to the effect that COMFORTING a person, making a FUSS over them, making them CENTRE-OF-ATTENTION, and so forth, after a personal disaster, like RAPE, IS TRAINING THEM to ALLOW it to HAPPEN AGAIN! The REACTIVE MIND will UNDERMINE the victim's ability to OVERCOME the Attack, IN ORDER TO EXPERIENCE THAT COMFORTING AND ATTENTION AGAIN! If the RAPE VICTIM knew that they were going to be PUNISHED on to of the RAPE, would they not FIGHT HARDER to RESIST the RAPE? Would they not THINK INTELLIGENTLY to BLOCK EVERY AVENUE a Rapist might use to get to them? SYMPATHY WEAKENS BOTH VICTIMS AND SYMPATHIZERS ALIKE! Christians shouldI AM ASSISTING VICTIMS OF RAPE BEFORE THEY BECOME VICTIMS0 SO THAT THEY WILL NEVER BE THE VICTIMS OF RAPISTS. The RAPISTS will become THEIRS'!' That is how I "help" Victims- BY NOT HELPING THEM BE VICTIMS! YOU HAVE NO COMPASSION FOR RAPE VICTIMS- BLUEAGENT AND YOU FAKE SYMPATHIZERS! You are UNDERMINING the Victims and Potential Victims, and SETTING THEM UP TO BE DESTROYED, so that YOU can put on your "GOOD SAMARITAN" Hypocrisy Mask! However, no one isI DO NOT BELIEVE THAT RAPIST-FOR-FUN CAN BE SAVED- WHETHER THEIR VICTIMS WERE BETROTHED OR MARRIED. A person who would do that, would need very extreme extenuating circumstances to justify themselves. For the RECORD: IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE that ANY Rapist of ANY type EVER achieved SALVATION. You want to THINK about that! [color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6. ALL The Commandments which I Command thee this Day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the Land which The LORD sware unto your fathers. 2. And thou shalt remember all the Way which The LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep His Commandments, or no. 3. And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know "THAT MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY, BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD DOTH MAN LIVE." 4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee, neither did thy foot swell, these forty years. 5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, “THAT, AS A MAN CHASTENETH HIS SON, SO THE LORD THY GOD CHASTENETH THEE.” 6. Therefore thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him. GOD CREATES TEMPTATIONS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SHOW WHAT THEY REALLY ARE. Do you think that ISRAELI women go crying home to daddy, that some Muslim gang ambushed her and raped her? THEY know about their duty better than anyone else. I am disgusted and disappointed that the airheaded Christian chicks on here could not bring that up. [color=silver].[/color] EXODUS 22:16-17. 16. "And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. 17. "If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins." EVERY UNATTACHED WOMAN A RAPIST RAPED HE MUST LOOK AFTER AS HIS WIFE. How many times is he going to do that, then? Clearly, he cannot make a career of it- or maybe he can- and he is actually going to live under the same roof with all of those angry women? That's HIS problem. Every FATHER and MOTHER, worthy of the name, HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY to PROTECT their CHILD from RAPE. If they FAIL in their DUTY, every CHILD growing up has the DUTY to PROTECT THEMSELVES from RAPE. If they don't do that, their PARENTS have raised a TOTALLY-SUICIDAL FOOL- because the FIRST THING you learn about RAPE is that it is NOT 100% PAIN-FREE, and it is NOT 100% SURVIVABLE. RAPE is NOT ALWAYS some "COOL ADVENTURE" you later laugh about with friends over drinks! It can get the victim SCARRED, CRIPPLED, or KILLED-FOR-LIFE! It should be TOPMOST in an INTELLIGENT PERSON'S MIND, to RECOGNIZE the RISK, and the PROBLEM, and SOLVE it! This again is a TEST FROM GOD- to see WHAT SORT OF SERVANT OF HIS you can be. One who can be RELIED-ON to PROTECT what is IMPORTANT. Or one who will "WAKA COME" with TEARFUL excuses!
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| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 7:30am On May 04, 2017 |
SHALOM! blueAgent:As I have already explained, this passage has nothing whatsoever to do with "RAPE," but ADULTERY. There are some difficult passages in the OldThe Rapist is not treated as someone who has done something WRONG- merely as someone who has acquired a COMMODITY- just used another METHOD of ACQUIRING A WIFE. Nothing extraordinary. There is no "difficulty" here, except of ADDING something to The Commandment that IS NOT THERE. That the sex was NOT Consensual is considered AN IRRELEVANT. We must see Deuteronomy 22:28–29 throughThat is a complete lie. THE WITCH OF ENDOR was neither a slave, nor a prostitute. I wonder whom you think sold goods in the markets, or spun the thread and wove the cloth for clothes. They didn't have inns and cafes? Modern Oyinbos arrogantly presume anyone else to be a Savage- as they always have. If an unmarried woman wasn’t aNone of this rambling has produced any COMMANDMENT OF GOD stating that RAPE IS A SIN. Critics of the Bible also point to Numbers 31This rhetoric is consistent with JEHOVAH'S WITLESS literature. The soldiers were commanded to purify themselves and their captives (verse 19). Rape would have violated this command (see Leviticus 15:16–18 ). The women who were taken captive are never referred to as sexual objects. Did the captive women likely eventually marry amongst the Israelites? Yes. Is there any indication that rape or sex slavery was forced upon the women? Absolutely not. In the New Testament, rape is not mentioned directly, but within the Jewish culture of the day, rape would have been considered sexual immorality . Jesus and the apostles spoke against sexual immorality, even offering it as justifiable grounds for divorce (Matthew 5:32 ). Further, the New Testament is clear that Christians are to obey the laws of their governing authorities (Romans 13). Not only is rape morally wrong; it is also wrong according to the laws of the land. As such, anyone who would commit this crime should expect to pay the consequences, including arrest and imprisonment. To the victims of rape, we must offer much care and compassion. God’s Word often speaks about helping those in need and in vulnerable situations. Christians should model the love and compassion of Christ by assisting victims of rape in any way possible. People are responsible for the sins they commit, including rape. However, no one is beyond the grace of God. Even to those who have committed the vilest of sins, God can extend forgiveness if they repent and turn from their evil ways (1 John 1:9 ). This does not remove the need for punishment according to the law, but it can offer hope and the way to a new life. oaroloye[/quote] |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by ScienceWatch: 2:01am On May 05, 2017 |
Cleopatra4:RAPE IS NOT CONDONED in the bible ! The OP is not against RAPE !!!! Oaroloye repeatedly stated that women are to blame when they are RAPED. He called them STUPID because they invited the RAPE. Studies have shown that CONVICTED RAPISTS believe that RAPE is not a sin. Has the OP been convicted of RAPE in the past ? I agree with Donald Trump when he says that, RAPISTS should be hung up by their balls in supermarket malls and beaten by disgusted shoppers. Watch your balls, Oaroloye !! |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 7:47am On May 05, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:What Sinners say about Righteousness is irrelevant. THE BIBLE CONDONES THE RAPE OF 1. UNBETROTHED AND UNMARRIED WOMEN. 2. WIDOWS OF ONE'S BROTHER. 3. WAR CAPTIVES. The perpetrators are not only not pumished, but even encouraged. THEREFORE, ANY INTELLIGENT AND GODLY FEMALE WOULD TURN TO GOD FOR PROTECTION. Which would be the PURPOSE of GOD the whole time. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by wolesmile(m): 7:51pm On May 14, 2017 |
oaroloye:I still wonder, sire, why I got mentioned here. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 1:24am On May 15, 2017 |
SHALOM! wolesmile:I thought you could bear Fruit of Wisdom and Understanding. |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by oaroloye(op): 1:33am On May 15, 2017*. Modified: 11:20am On May 15, 2017 |
Cleopatra4:[color=silver].[/color] JUDGES 3:1-4. NOW these are the nations which The LORD left, to prove Israel by them, even as many of Israel as had not known all the Wars of Canaan; 2. Only that the Generations of the Children of Israel might know, to teach them War, at the least such as before knew nothing thereof; 3. Namely, five lords of the Philistines, and all the Canaanites, and the Sidonians, and the Hivites that dwelt in mount Lebanon, from mount Baalhermon unto the entering in of Hamath. 4. And they were to prove Israel by them, to know whether they would hearken unto The Commandments of the LORD, Which He Commanded their fathers by the hand of Moses. WOMEN SHOULD VIEW RAPISTS AS AN ENEMY NATION- against whom, YOU SHOULD ALL NOTICE, no other man here, nor, perhaps, anywhere else, has any interest in protecting you against. God always knows what He is doing, and what He is Saying. The question is: DO WE? I find it extremely disappointing, and disgusting, that because I pointed out what THE WORD OF GOD, written 3,500 years ago said, you must ask whether I am encouraging RAPE. Is that the ONLY possible interpretation of my Message thus far? I expected, that long before now, many intelligent WOMEN-OF-GOD should have jumped in, to FINISH THE MESSAGE FOR ME. Perhaps come up with BETTER SOLUTIONS THAN MINE! [color=silver].[/color] ISAIAH 55:6-11./color[] [color=#990000]6. Seek ye The LORD while He may be found, call ye upon Him while He is near: 7. Let the Wicked forsake his Way, and the Unrighteous man his Thoughts: and let him return unto The LORD, and He will have Mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will Abundantly Pardon. 8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS MY WAYS," SAITH THE LORD. 9. "FOR AS THE HEAVENS ARE HIGHER THAN THE EARTH, SO ARE MY WAYS HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS, AND MY THOUGHTS THAN YOUR THOUGHTS. 10. "FOR AS THE RAIN COMETH DOWN, AND THE SNOW FROM HEAVEN, AND RETURNETH NOT THITHER, BUT WATERETH THE EARTH, AND MAKETH IT BRING FORTH AND BUD, THAT IT MAY GIVE SEED TO THE SOWER, AND BREAD TO THE EATER: 11. "SO SHALL MY WORD BE THAT GOETH FORTH OUT OF MY MOUTH: IT SHALL NOT RETURN UNTO ME VOID, BUT IT SHALL ACCOMPLISH THAT WHICH I PLEASE, AND IT SHALL PROSPER IN THE THING WHERETO I SENT IT." But that has not been the case, because no such intelligence exists, here. [color=silver].[/color] JOHN 3:1-12. THERE was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, "Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." 3. Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN,' HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 4. Nicodemus saith unto him, "How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" 5. Jesus answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 6. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7. "Marvel not that I said unto thee, 'YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.' 8. "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." 9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, "How can these things be?" 10. Jesus answered and said unto him, "Art thou a master of Israel, knowest not these things? 11. "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, 'WE SPEAK THAT WE DO KNOW, AND TESTIFY THAT WE HAVE SEEN; AND YE RECEIVE NOT OUR WITNESS.' 12. "If I have told you Earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of Heavenly things?" I AM GUIDED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD: THEREFORE MY THOUGHTS AND WAYS CANNOT BE WHAT SINNERS AND HYPOCRITES CAN CONCEIVE! [color=silver].[/color] LUKE 10:17-24. 17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name." 18. And he said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven. 19. "Behold, I give unto you Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, and over all the Power of the Enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." 20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven." 21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto Babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight. 22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and Who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him." 23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: 24. "For I tell you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' " What can it possibly matter what I am "encouraging?" What is THE LORD YAHSHUA encouaging? MIGHTINESS or WEAKNESS? |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by wolesmile(m): 11:51pm On May 15, 2017 |
oaroloye:Aiit sire |
| Re: Does Anyone Care About The Ramifications Of The Truth That "Rape Is Not A Sin?" by ScienceWatch: 1:50am On Jun 12, 2017*. Modified: 8:25pm On Jul 06, 2017 |
oaroloye:You make some good points in your response to my mention. Yes, It is good that I bear no malice toward you or anyone else. I HAVE learned much from Hond about cowardice. I too resent cowardice. That is my nature ! It is now common knowledge that LIFE is not a game to be played, but A BATTLE that must be won. RAPE IS A SIN !!! The BATTLE is between two most powerful spiritual forces known to humanity, Good & Evil. You Bronchitis Oaroloye, are using old worn out tactics to sow seeds of doubt and confusion among Christians. That's why you joined the mad crowd at Pentecostal PFN & CFAN to destroy easily VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE flowing like a raging river from the SCOAN CHURCH. Your Handler Pastor Chris Okotie has finally dropped you on the kerb to fend for yourself. Be mindful of the youth ! Don't allow them to suffer unnecessary spiritual strife. Direct them to where there is abundance of practical demonstrations of the REALITY of God. One effective demonstration is a more powerful motivator and teacher than a stack of books or years of lengthy MOTIVATIONAL SPEECHES. SIMPLICITY IS THE HALLMARK OF GENIUS ! JESUS IS A GENIUS !!!! There is no room in Christianity for dark FICTIONAL HOAXES such as NAGUALISM and CELESTINE PROPHECY. Should I mention Bronchitis Oaroloye's love for CRIMINAL SCIENTOLOGY ? Thank God, There is a place for the youth to see scientifically verifiable EVIDENCE of God's love 24 hours per day on the world's MOST WATCHED spiritual channel, EMMANUEL TV. REJOICE SCOAN ISRAEL ! |
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