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Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by naptu2: 7:54am On May 04, 2017
Don’t destroy NIA, Nigeria can’t survive without it – Horsefall, pioneer DG NIA

ON May 4, 2017 1:21 AM

By Jimitota Onoyume


Chief Albert Horsefall is the founding Director General of the National Intelligence Agency, NIA. He was also Director General of the State Security Service, SSS.


In this exclusive interview, the former security czar, warned strongly against developing activities around the NIA, saying they were capable of completely ruining the intelligence agency.


He said he had heard that some military men whether retired or serving had been posted to take over some departments of the NIA, stressing this move would ridicule this distinct security body before the international community.


Albert also said he got feelers that some auditors had been deployed to look at the books of the NIA, noting that the security agency do not operate like other conventional organisations.


He pleaded for a brake to be applied to save the nation’s national intelligence body. According to him, auditors could trace to agents who are priceless treasures of intelligence agencies.


He said any attempt to unmask them would expose their lives to dangers in the countries where they are operating in disguised forms. Chief Horsefall said he had no other option but to cry out through the media after all efforts he made to see President Muhammadu Buhari and his deputy, Professor Yemi Osibanjo failed last week. Excerpts:




WHAT is your reaction to the state of affairs at the NIA?

I am concerned and baffled by what is happening in the NIA as the founding Director General of the service. I established the NIA in 1986 and set it up purely as a professional intelligence service at the highest level.

To achieve my objective I recruited equal number of graduates, 15 at that time from every one of the 21 states of the federation.

The entry qualification was first class or second class upper degree from any recognised Nigerian university. So the foundation was solid in terms of personnel.

Solid intelligence officers

Those who were keen observers then will express satisfaction that these were the best trained security officers in the country and even when compared with some other countries.

The training process went on for about three years. All of them learnt the art. I will not disclose what they were trained for but they were trained in the act of becoming solid intelligence officers.

No modern country can survive without an intelligence service especially one like Nigeria which has ambition for regional and international participation in politics and diplomacy. You need an intelligence service to promote your objectives beyond foreign service personnel. For this purpose the Nigerian Service during my time was very well equipped.


What gives me sleepless night is that action of the current DG of the service who was one of the early graduates of the process that I just described, and spent quite sometime abroad in the Commonwealth office. But the DG is only the top public relations manager of any service organization, below him there is a magnificent body of experience of capable Nigerians who make up the service.


Have you spoken with him?

I have not spoken with the DG quite frankly. It is alleged that he had “carelessly dropped” some money in a “safe” house in Lagos. Whether this is true or exaggerated, I am not in a position to really know because I have not been briefed on it. But that issue was allegedly discovered by another top public official, acting chairman of the EFCC.

In such a situation, one would say thank God that it was discovered by another agency within the same administration, that another top official discovered what appeared to be the indiscretion of a colleague.

The normal thing would have been for the gentleman to report to Mr. President. So the discoverer of the money had two options. One, to call his colleague to say he found money you carelessly dropped in a safe house, or go to Mr. President and say that he found this huge sum of money purportedly left carelessly by another top official of government. But the report we are receiving from the media is that the EFCC acting chairman, went to the media first to report it.

The questions are: are the two agencies serving the same government? Is it in the national interest for such delicate information to be in the custody of the press before the President? It is a matter of judgment. I will invite all concerned to reflect this issue soberly for national interest.

The NIA has come under tremendous pressure. I was told but I don’t know the truth of the matter that some serving or retired military officials have been posted to take over certain departments in the NIA. In a democratic setting, this is uncalled for.

Why?

Because you are invading the top secret of the organization. This is the service that operates the intelligence of the country overseas, the country’s diplomatic intelligence service. When you invade it this way, you expose it to ridicule, the myth around it will be gone.


Recruitment and management

When you invade it, you demoralise them. The intelligence service work with recruitment and management of agents overseas to bring information that will be moulded into intelligence to protect the national security. When you expose the service the way it is being done now, hopefully, foreign agents will lose confidence in the service, so you are not safe.


I am informed but I am not sure. They have asked some investigators to go and look into the records of the NIA. If they are operating in the parlance of a professional intelligence service, what would you find? Payments to agents, agents are the highest property of the intelligence agency.


Once you unmask them, you expose them to threats, they can be murdered. Because somebody will discover they have been working against them for the NIA. I recall as DG one of the issues I had with my political coordinator was that they wanted me to give him the list of those I am working with. And I said no, we quarreled until he gave up.


These are people working for the agency under different disguises abroad, their lives are in your hand as their commander. So when you expose their identity they are in danger.


Consequences of the probe?

These are some of the consequences of what could happen in the current exercise taking place. This is why I am appealing to all concerned to apply brake in the national interest!

National interest

Intelligence services all over the world are mystical, they operate in secrecy. Their resources are in secret, their resources are not necessarily allocations from government. They are allowed to raise resources from different sources so long as they disclose them to the head of government.

So my appeal to all concerned is that they should reflect on the delicate issues involved. You can’t build an intelligence agency in one day, not even in one year. When you expose this service the way you are going, everyday on paper, television, you will never be able to get an intelligence service in this country in the next twenty years.

You think it is like recruiting police people and putting them in uniform? You can’t build an intelligence service in five, ten years. It will take a sound professional mind to rebuild the intelligence service if you destroy this.


Have you made efforts to address the authorities on this?

I was in Abuja for one week to see the authorities. I could not see number one or number two. So this is the only option opened to me as the founding DG to use the media for this quite delicate matter. Of course, all the issues are in the media.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by naptu2: 7:55am On May 04, 2017
Chief Horsfall served in the Police Special Branch (E Department) from 1965-1976 (the Special Branch was the intelligence arm of the police). He was embedded with Nigerian troops during the Civil War.


He became a member of the National Security Organisation when it was created in 1976 (to replace the Special Branch) and he rose to become the deputy director general of the NSO (1984-1986). It was during this period that the NSO tried to kidnap Umaru Dikko.


He became the first director general of the National Intelligence Agency (NIA) when it was created in 1986. He was the DG of the NIA from 1986-1990, when President Babangida made him the DG of the SSS.

He left the SSS in 1992 and President Babangida made him the first chairman of the Oil Mineral Producing Areas Development Commission (OMPADEC) in 1993. OMPADEC is a forerunner of the Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC).

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Defaramade(m): 7:55am On May 04, 2017
Na so

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by bigtt76(f): 7:55am On May 04, 2017
The best yet Boko Haram and Niger Delta militants held Nigeria to ransom for close to a decade ....#mtscheeeeeeeeeeew!!!

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by naptu2: 7:59am On May 04, 2017
bigtt76:
The best yet Boko Haram and Niger Delta militants held Nigeria to ransom for close to a decade ....#mtscheeeeeeeeeeew!!!

That's primarily the jurisdiction of the SSS, not the NIA.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by mykel25(m): 8:07am On May 04, 2017
So make Dem no investigate how money has gone down d drain Abi...kwantinu oooo

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by opalu: 8:07am On May 04, 2017
Tell them

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Firstcitizen: 8:07am On May 04, 2017
We should allow NIA destroy Nigeria abi

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by seunmsg(m): 8:09am On May 04, 2017
Nonsense. No agency should be above accountability and public scrutiny no matter how sensitive their duties are.

This same silly mentality is why the president and all governors vote huge amounts as security votes annually without giving account of how the funds were expended.

For us to succeed in the war on corruption, we must move away from this old military mentality. Every public official and government agencies entrusted with public funds must be made to give account of how the funds were expended. No agency, no matter how sensitive, should be above accountability.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by BrutalJab: 8:09am On May 04, 2017
Leave APC and confused Bullhari alone

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by donsteady(m): 8:09am On May 04, 2017
This man is funny, "Carelessly" abi.? All these old criminals think we are stupidd

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Nobody: 8:11am On May 04, 2017
Yes we can!

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by DollarAngel(m): 8:11am On May 04, 2017
Are you afraid of auditing?

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Dandsome: 8:11am On May 04, 2017
Tell them. They want to use politics to kill it.

Immediately Oke said he informed NSA about the money I knew something was up

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by NOC1(m): 8:12am On May 04, 2017
of the truth Presidency abi president should be careful on how they handle this NIA matter, that organisation do a lot of secret abi covert works that the public should not know.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by kowema(f): 8:12am On May 04, 2017
Any agency that needs over $200 milion for one covert project or whatever should be gunned down.
Such plenty money and we can't see the outcome.
Didn't even know dey exist.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Dottore: 8:12am On May 04, 2017
There are many security forces and Intelligent Security outfits in this country yet security of lives and properties remain a joke.
We have
National intelligence Agency - NiA
Force Intelligence Bureau - FIB
Department of State Security-DSS
Department of Military Intelligence

Nigeria Police Force and many other sub units under the police force: Mopols, Counter Terrorist Unit, Anti Kidnapping, Special Anti Robbery Squad, I GPS XSquad, operation this and that.

CIVIL Defense

Vigilantes and many more yet there are countless unresolved murders and crimes almost on a daily basis.
God help us all

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by bantudark: 8:14am On May 04, 2017
the nia is useless and not effective.....nia shouldnt care about international pride....only care about nigeria and africa only...

where were they when boko haram was getting stronger??...people looting money??.....nigerians out of control?....

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Dhugal: 8:18am On May 04, 2017
Children all over the place.

NIA is for foreign intelligence, not domestic.
Failure of domestic intelligence lies squarely with your foolish SSS.
Don't destroy the NIA

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by jericco1(m): 8:19am On May 04, 2017
Someone has paid him to defend the NIA, despite their excesses. You can't play God all the time, who their intel epp?

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:19am On May 04, 2017
I think the matter should be handled with caution.
I also think this man is oveeratin NIA

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by ifex370(m): 8:19am On May 04, 2017
Mtcheew....





Intelligence kon sabi book ni...


How many of our leader's are intelligent... Dumb mot*******ERS lying everyywhere

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by TonyeBarcanista(m): 8:20am On May 04, 2017
jericco1:
Someone has paid him to defend the NIA, despite their excesses. You can't play God all the time, who their intel epp?
e epp you
Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Stanleyville(m): 8:20am On May 04, 2017
D only reason I even knew der is anytin cald NIA in dis country is because they stole money cry

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by misterh(m): 8:20am On May 04, 2017
bantudark:
the nia is useless and not effective.....nia shouldnt care about international pride....only care about nigeria and africa only...

where were they when boko haram was getting stronger??...people looting money??.....nigerians out of control?....
I believe the Boko Haram issue is within the purview of the DSS. Does the mandate of the NIA include going after looters, as you alluded to in your comment?

NIA has more to do with foreign intelligence.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by AntiWailer: 8:21am On May 04, 2017
Hmmm.
Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by AntiWailer: 8:21am On May 04, 2017
Stanleyville:
D only reason I even knew der is anytin cald NIA in dis country is because they stole money cry

I taya oo

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by Hiccups: 8:22am On May 04, 2017
This Government has failed to draw a line between what information is meant for the media and what information is not. They would rather not disclosed Mr. President's medical status.

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by AntiWailer: 8:22am On May 04, 2017
naptu2:


That's primarily the jurisdiction of the SSS, not the NIA.

You are right NIA's jurisdiction is keeping 48million dollars cash in personal apartment.

Na so

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by bantudark: 8:22am On May 04, 2017
misterh:

I believe the Boko Haram issue is within the purview of the DSS. Does the mandate of the NIA include going after looters, as you alluded to in your comment?

NIA has more to do with foreign intelligence.

foreign intelligence bring us nothing.......preventing trouble for the nigerians is their job..not playing international games..

the world is a dangerous place....we have no business playing nice with the world.....how many secrets did they steal from abroad to help us......illegal imigrants everywere....isnt it their job to inform us about illegal foreighners....

why are they not capable to trace shekau??....tompolo.....dokubo and others...

how could chibok happen under their watch?...

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Re: Don’t Destroy NIA, Nigeria Can’t Survive Without It – Horsefall, Pioneer DG NIA by jericco1(m): 8:23am On May 04, 2017
TonyeBarcanista:
e epp you
tah

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