fanficgirl:

I've been talking with an Indian . How long has your family been in Kenya?

About a century.

Nowenuse:


You argue like a lay man and a frustrated person bursting with so much emotions!

Japan, Korea, USA e.t c do not have wildlife compared to Kenya or Tanzania, does that mean that Japanese, Koreans and Americans also eat all the animals in their country?

World bank says that only 33% of Nigerians live below the poverty line. What is your source of 80%?

Mention one aspect in which Kenya is better than Nigeria and i will mention 3 aspects Nigeria is better than Kenya. I dare you!

Many Nigerians are frustrated so I won't get angry with your outburst. And yes! Nigeria is a frustrating country .Quit comparing other European and Asian countries to the argument here. How many Kenyans do you see in Nigeria? How many of your country men are in Kenya as immigrants? How many Kenyans are in your university? Do Kenya have the same resources like Nigeria? Do they have same population with you? There's no point daring me, Nigeria is developed only in papers and internet. Have a good day!

mtis:

Does everything in Naija rotate on one's complexion... if its not about white south africans its about kenyan indians..Dont you guys have white or asians in your country

Thickest humans I have ever seen, they have this 1960s mentality

nkwuocha1:


Nigerians also do that so what's your point? Your pastors here burn congregants to death, so whats your point? Your senators marry underage girls so what's your point? Your governor blame disease outbreak on Allah's vengeance, so what's your point?

Many African countries no longer want you so what's your point?Nigerians are in other African universities because of the low standards we have here so what's your point? My sister, a very intelligent lady wrote jamb three times, until I got pissed off and sent her out of Nigeria. Now her grades is so much of a potential First Class, now tell me what the hell is your point? Thanks to other African countries with good educational standards else many young talented Nigerians will lose focus in their education. Please stop blowing Nigerians trumpet, nothing is working here.

LoL.
Many Japanese, Koreans, Chinese and even Europeans go to the USA to school, does that mean that their educational systems are so faulty?

Many African countries no longer want us yet they cannot do without our Music, movies and worshipping our entertainers, they cannot stop coming to our churches, they cannot stop wearing our cultural attires and copying our styles.
Who is now fooling who?

Check top 200 or 100 universities in Africa, more Nigerian universities made the rank than all other countries except South Africa and Egypt.
This is because Nigeria spends so much to try and develop the dozens of her universities while other African countries like Ghana and Kenya will spend all their money in developing only 1 or 2 universities and abandon the rest.

Can you compare how much Nigerian university students pay for tuition compared to other African countries? We have some of the cheapest universities in the world which even the poorest Nigerians can afford. Do you think it is like that in other countries?

So what is your point exactly?

Every country has it's advantages and disadvantage!

Tuksgrad:






You make a lot of sense...ask him how many of those "butchered " Nigerians in South Africa and other countries are actually butcherd by fellow Nigerians? .Nigerians treat each other like poo both in Nigeria and outside but expect others to welcome them Strange!

No its only South Africans that "hunt down " Africans, Nigerians butchering each other weekly is African unity and brotherly love. Let's just focus on the xenophobic slaves because our bloodshed is ok, it's called being Nigerian.

Tuksgrad:






You make a lot of sense...ask him how many of those "butchered " Nigerians in South Africa and other countries are actually butcherd by fellow Nigerians? .Nigerians treat each other like poo both in Nigeria and outside but expect others to welcome them Strange!

You don't need to tell me these. My distant uncle died in SA. He was shot in the mouth by a fellow Nigerian in SA. sincerely many here defending Nigeria are just too emotional and blindly patriotic to a mediocre country. Nigeria is striving a bit today ain't because of genuine businesses. Nigeria's wealth majorly comes from human sacrifice/deprivation and illegality.

Lionessza:




Hahahaha @ killing other Africans in their midst

Bad people kill people all the time not just in Naija. Africans and middle east nations have killed their brothers shamefully. It is a huge problem which would continually die out in Naija but it doesn't excuse southafricans for killing their African brothers cos of stupid reasons like ....
they are taking our women, taking our jobs, etc.

kilo4sure:

I wonder where these figures are coming from sometimes, 80% in abject poverty? And yet we have the highest online presence in Africa , whether it be Facebook, twitter, bellanaija etc. Everyone l know no matter how they complain of poverty still have good phones, and do not stay in slums, in warri many dream big and do big things but they'll still tell u dey are poor. 80% below the poverty line? If you say 60% majorly becos of the North and some places in the south south then maybe but not 80%, you sef think am na my guy, dat lie sweet you for ear?

Lol. 80% small sef .
Na by phone? Na by facebook? Na WA ooo. Abi you no no say people wey no get bank account for Nigeria plenty pass people wey get? Bros if Kenya get quarter if Wetin we get, we for no dey smell their Yansh. Nigeria no try be say e no try. I know say you dey defend your country, carry on. Nothing do you.

nkwuocha1:


You don't need to tell me these. My distant uncle died in SA. He was shot in the mouth by a fellow Nigerian in SA. sincerely many here defending Nigeria are just too emotional and blindly patriotic to a mediocre country. Nigeria is striving a bit today ain't because of genuine businesses. Nigeria's wealth majorly comes from human sacrifice/deprivation and illegality.

So at your age you still believe human sacrifice gives wealth? Bros abeg nor allow these Kenyans laugh us pass so, l take God beg u biko.

kilo4sure:

So at your age you still believe human sacrifice gives wealth? Bros abeg nor allow these Kenyans laugh us pass so, l take God beg u biko.

Lol no be babalawo ownnnnnn oooo. I never mentioned human ritual bro. When you deprive people of their basic needs, you're enriching yourself at their own expense. Thereby sacrificing them by keeping for yourself their collective wealth.

nkwuocha1:



Many Nigerians are frustrated so I won't get agree with your outburst. And yes! Nigeria is a frustrating country .Quit comparing other European and Asian countries to the argument here. How many Kenyans do you see in Nigeria? How many of your country men are in Kenya as immigrants? How many Kenyans are in your university? Do Kenya have the same resources like Nigeria? Do they have same population with you? There's no point daring me, Nigeria is developed only in papers and internet. Have a good day!

Chinese and Lebanese people migrate all over the world to the extent that Ghana deported thousands of Chinese illegal workers some years ago. Does than make Ghana better than Lebanon or China?

Don't you know that the more the population of a country, the more difficult it is to cater for everyone? China would never have been able to make good progress if they had not enforced the one child policy with brutal force (and of course, this can only happen in a communist country that China is). Can it ever happen in a democratic settings like Nigeria?

At Nigerian independence in 1960, the British left us with 50 million people (present day Kenya's population) and 90% (45 million of the 50) were illiterates.
What would the illiterate population do if not to keep proliferating to find us with the large population we have now? What progress do you expect from a predominantly illiterate nation if not the crisis, wars and coups which have delayed our progress for decades??

We all know that Nigeria can do better, but one thing many of you guys do not understand is that colonial policies and foundations are what affected the African race and people. Some countries had more terrible and faulty colonial policies and administration than others and it will take decades, centuries or forever for Africans to overcome some of these besetting effects of faulty colonial policies.

Lionessza:





No its only South Africans that "hunt down " Africans, Nigerians butchering each other weekly is African unity and brotherly love. Let's just focus on the xenophobic slaves because our bloodshed is ok, it's called being Nigerian.

Loll. I wonder why they don't ask themselves if your country is so bad why are Nigerians and other Africans refusing to leave when offered the chance to? Why would you want to remain in a country where you are hunted like an animal? Is Nigeria that bad that it's citizens would rather leave in danger zones? .


I remember living in South Africa and I've never felt unwelcomed or any of my people "hunted " down by the crazy South Africans My best neighbors were South Africans ,I wonder why im still alive and I still visit that "shit hole " regularly I must have a death wish.

nkwuocha1:


Lol. 80% small sef .
Na by phone? Na by facebook? Na WA ooo. Abi you no no say people wey no get bank account for Nigeria plenty pass people wey get? Bros if Kenya get quarter if Wetin we get, we for no dey smell their Yansh. Nigeria no try be say e no try. I know say you dey defend your country, carry on. Nothing do you.

And if Kenya had as much population, ethno-religious diversity and faulty colonial policies as Nigeria. They would have been divided or been in irredeemable chaos like Sudan or Congo.

kilo4sure:

Bad people kill people all the time not just in Naija. Africans and middle east nations have killed their brothers shamefully. It is a huge problem which would continually die out in Naija but it doesn't excuse southafricans for killing their African brothers cos of stupid reasons like ....
they are taking our women, taking our jobs, etc.

How many foreigners were killed by South Africans? How many Nigerians specifically? . No one said excuse them ,and by the way as a foreigner who lived in South Africa for years I've never felt like my life was in danger. Oh please the "they take our women crap " was blown out of proportion by media , how many South African Women even date foreigners for such a cry ? Lol. As for the job thing I understood their cries , and it was the poor slum dwelling South Africans with no skills fighting the unskilled foreigner who was willing to take a little more than a quarter of the minimum wage in that country. This is not the average South African by the way. Not excusing the bloodshed though. That was stupid.

Nowenuse:


Chinese and Lebanese people migrate all over the world to the extent that Ghana deported thousands of Chinese illegal workers some years ago. Does than make Ghana better than Lebanon or China?

Don't you know that the more the population of a country, the more difficult it is to cater for everyone? China would never have been able to make good progress if they had not enforced the one child policy with brutal force (and of course, this can only happen in a communist country that China is). Can it ever happen in a democratic settings like Nigeria?

At Nigerian independence in 1960, the British left us with 50 million people (present day Kenya's population) and 90% (45 million of the 50) were illiterates.
What would the illiterate population do if not to keep proliferating to find us with the large population we have now? What progress do you expect from a predominantly illiterate nation if not the crisis, wars and coups which have delayed our progress for decades??

We all know that Nigeria can do better, but one thing many of you guys do not understand is that colonial policies and foundations are what affected the African race and people. Some countries had more terrible and faulty colonial policies and administration than others and it will take decades, centuries or forever for Africans to overcome some of these besetting effects of faulty colonial policies.

So Ghana deported Chinese? Wow! Yet Nigerians are importing them. Giving them our dollars to take back to China. Even thieves from China prisons are paid better in Nigeria than a Harvard Nigerian graduate.

Population is also an advantage as well as disadvantage. Depends on how the leadership and the ruled choose to make the best of that population. I was watching NTA sports the other day and realise how good the Chinese were in all kind of sports. Just like their population, they seem to be everywhere, culture, Education, Sports, tourism, Technology,Medicine,Labour and man power.This is a country that even with its massive population, corrupt officials are severely dealt with, no sentiments. Nigeria population is useless as the only thing we are good at is spreading epidemic diseases around.

Keep giving excuses why Nigeria is backward. The British should have not have given us independence. Clearly we are more backward than ever.

Your last paragraph sounds like an appeal. Unfortunately, Nigeria may only move forward when a full restructuring is done. Until then let's agree to disagree that indeed we are lacking way behind as a country.

Nowenuse:


And if Kenya had as much population, ethno-religious diversity and faulty colonial policies as Nigeria. They would have been divided or been in irredeemable chaos like Sudan or Congo.

Rwanda even after the ethnic genocide are living and striving in peace. I thought the slogan here is"Unity in diversity ".Even in the next 100 years Nigeria will continue to blame anybody but themselves for their own failures.

nkwuocha1:


You don't need to tell me these. My distant uncle died in SA. He was shot in the mouth by a fellow Nigerian in SA. sincerely many here defending Nigeria are just too emotional and blindly patriotic to a mediocre country. Nigeria is striving a bit today ain't because of genuine businesses. Nigeria's wealth majorly comes from human sacrifice/deprivation and illegality.

I get you. I lived in a neighborhood with many Nigerians and the rate at which they were getting arrested not only for criminality but also for murdering each other weekly. And it's funny how now Nigerians blame those on South Africans because they happened In their country.

nkwuocha1:


Lol no be babalawo ownnnnnn oooo. I never mentioned human ritual bro. When you deprive people of their basic needs, you're enriching yourself at their own expense. Thereby sacrificing them by keeping for yourself their collective wealth.

This makes so much sense. But they will never understand you until their go out and see the standard of living outside.

nkwuocha1:



No need going round in circles!!! Let's deal with meningitis first, heard death toll almost nearing a thousand now.

dude meningitis is in d northeast , that place is a different from Nigeria (to me) a as long as e no reach south ,west ,east na dem sabi

Tuksgrad:




I get you. I lived in a neighborhood with many Nigerians and the rate at which they were getting arrested not only for criminality but also for murdering each other weekly. And it's funny how now Nigerians blame those on South Africans because they happened In their country.

OK l get you, Nigerians are the worst people on earth, all they do is drugs, crime, and killing nothing else. They even have the audacity to put all the blames for their crimes and rape which they commit every week on the Holy South Africans. Infact because of this silly Nigerians, people now know south Africa for rape and crime. Such would never have happened but for these Nigerians. Hmm these bloody Nigerians, gerrahia Nigerians.

nkwuocha1:


So Ghana deported Chinese? Wow! Yet Nigerians are importing them. Giving them our dollars to take back to China. Even thieves from China prisons are paid better in Nigeria than a Harvard Nigerian graduate.

Population is also an advantage as well as disadvantage. Depends on how the leadership and the ruled choose to make the best of that population. I was watching NTA sports the other day and realise how good the Chinese were in all kind of sports. Just like their population, they seem to be everywhere, culture, Education, Sports, tourism, Technology,Medicine,Labour and man power.This is a country that even with its massive population, corrupt officials are severely dealt with, no sentiments. Nigeria population is useless as the only thing we are good at is spreading epidemic diseases around.

Keep giving excuses why Nigeria is backward. The British should have not have given us independence. Clearly we are more backward than ever.

Your last paragraph sounds like an appeal. Unfortunately, Nigeria may only move forward when a full restructuring is done. Until then let's agree to disagree that indeed we are lacking way behind as a country.

You are a very sentimental person. Learn to shelf your sentiments when engaging in a public discourse. You are not the only one frustrated about happenings in Naija. Many of us are, even worse than you are. The only difference btw us and your likes is that we have learnt to juxtapose sentiments with fair analogies and underlying causes of issues and not just how they are bloated from the surface.

Yes population is an advantage and disadvantage, i'm glad you said that. So, i hope you do will not deny that there are aspects in which Nigeria has used her large population beneficially as much as our large population is causing harm to us. So, why is it that your likes prefer to augment only our negativities?

You cannot really compare China a communist Nation where things are done by force without the people's opinion to a democratic Nigeria where everyone has a say in aspects like dealing with corruption and other issues. That is terrible analogy.

Talking about restructuring, yes i am very much in support of it.
However, some states in Nigeria have proven to us that with or without restructuring, Nigeria can still work.

Gombe state is not an oil producing state and infact they have one of the lowest internally generated revenue in Nigeria because it is a 'baby' state created in 1996 with no financial or industrial centre, but this state has some of the best roads, health care centres and schools in Nigeria (for their small population). How was this possible??

The Nigerian federal govt does not give a hoot about tourism, but how did Cross river state transform itself to a hub of tourism in west Africa with no oil derivation money??

Look at Lagos state and see the kind of progress it is making, what about Akwa Ibom state (with the former governor)?

The problem with many Nigerians is that we focus on the federal govt too much, forgetting or pardoning our state govts to do whatever they like with the billions of Naira they receive and generate.
What stops our state govts from developing their own electricity (as Lagos and Enugu states are planning on doing)? What stops them from creating their own industries and exporting the products of their own industries?

Nigeria needs restructuring, yes, but even without restructuring, we can still make tremendous progress, but this to a large extent depends on your state govts.

Some fools expect the federal govt to build primary schools for them, they expect the FG to tar their streets or clear their gutters for them. Is that not the height of stupidity?

uzzyfire:
dude meningitis is in d northeast , that place is a different from Nigeria (to me) a as long as e no reach south ,west ,east na dem sabi

This got me laughing .So northerners no be Nigerians again?

nkwuocha1:


Stop all this chest beating!! Defending Nigeria is like pouring water in basket these days, it's simply useless. You no dey shame, even with your oil and natural resources, Kenya still dey drag development with you. Nonsense!!!

baba go and tell buhari this crap u just sed ,abi na we be president

OreMI22:
Nigeria is truly an evil empire.

If it was not so big, it would have been very clear that Kenya is much more developed.

Nigeria with all its gas,coal and oil still lacks power more than the poorest African countries

u never hear India self dey use generator

nkwuocha1:


Rwanda even after the ethnic genocide are living and striving in peace. I thought the slogan here is"Unity in diversity ".Even in the next 100 years Nigeria will continue to blame anybody but themselves for their own failures.

Oga, everyone, especially most African nations have pros and cons.

Nigeria has been able to manage her large and diverse population as the largest country in Africa and is still making some progress, but Ethiopia, Sudan and Congo who had the 2nd, 3rd and 4th largest populations in SubSaharan Africa with all their rescources have all been divided by ethnic, religious and political wars today and are like shadows of their past.

If it was easy to manage a large and diverse population and still make progress, why couldn't Ethiopia, Sudan and Congo who are all about half of Nigeria's population do it?

Egypt the only large African country working well and better is 90% homogenous with one ethnicity and religion.

Nigeria even deserves kudos and praises for making it this far and still showing the world that a large diverse Black African nation can still make some progress united.

kilo4sure:

OK l get you, Nigerians are the worst people on earth, all they do is drugs, crime, and killing nothing else. They even have the audacity to put all the blames for their crimes and rape which they commit every week on the Holy South Africans. Infact because of this silly Nigerians people now know south Africa for rape and crime such would not have happened but for these Nigerians. Hmm these bloody Nigerians gerrahia Nigerians.

Hahahaha stop trying to change the whole thing by whining. No one said the only criminals in that country are Nigerians but I was telling him about how Nigerians acted in that neighborhood and I'm sure once the headlines hit in Nigeria, you all started insulting the country without even knowing who killed him like you did last week before finding out your fellow man was murdered by a Somalian. Your reputation for crime and drugs is your own doing please don't cry when people associate you with it. The rapes in South Africa are not only perpetrated by citizens , foreigners and yes Nigerians too. Your pastor is on their media now for such, a month back it was another nigeria given 22 years for the same.

uzzyfire:
dude meningitis is in d northeast , that place is a different from Nigeria (to me) a as long as e no reach south ,west ,east na dem sabi

Oga pls stop this kind of terrible statement.

I am from the North-central but yet i have been defending the nefarious activities of your people (from the south) who have tarnished the image of Nigeria with kidnapping, drug dealing, international prostitution and huma trafficking, ritualist practices, scamming and defrauding.

We Middlebelters and northerners are also suffering for crimes your own people commit.
These are the prices we all have to pay for a big and diverse country.

Tuksgrad:





Hahahaha stop trying to change the whole thing by whining. No one said the only criminals in that country are Nigerians but I was telling him about how Nigerians acted in that neighborhood and I'm sure once the headlines hit in Nigeria, you all started insulting the country without even knowing who killed him like you did last week before finding out your fellow man was murdered by a Somalian. Your reputation for crime and drugs is your own doing please don't cry when people associate you with it. The rapes in South Africa are not only perpetrated by citizens , foreigners and yes Nigerians too. Your pastor is on their media now for such, a month back it was another nigeria given 22 years for the same.

Ha no o never, why would l cry when they associate Nigeria with only drugs and crime? since that's the only thing Nigerians are known for, they do nothing else. There was a fake news of a Nigerian who became the best medical student in Russia, but l believe that news is fake, becos a Nigerian cannot do that, all they do is drugs, or maybe he wasn't even a Nigerian. l've heard similar reports of Nigerians being the most educated foreigners in some places in the west, that again is fake news cooked up by the Nigerian media just like their GDP is also fake, how can it be true when 80% in fact 90% live in poverty. I agree with you bro, don't mind these emotional Nigerians on Nairaland defending Nigerians blindly, ignorant of the acts of Nigerians world over. South Africa's crime and rapes are influenced by the Nigerians just like they have also corrupted the Ghanians by teaching them crime, can you imagine innocent Ghanians who didn't want to learn crime were forced by the Nigerians. O Nigerians, l weep for Nigeria.

Nowenuse:


You are a very sentimental person. Learn to shelf your sentiments when engaging in a public discourse. You are not the only one frustrated about happenings in Naija. Many of us are, even worse than you are. The only difference btw us and your likes is that we have learnt to juxtapose sentiments with fair analogies and underlying causes of issues and not just how they are bloated from the surface.

Yes population is an advantage and disadvantage, i'm glad you said that. So, i hope you do will not deny that there are aspects in which Nigeria has used her large population beneficially as much as our large population is causing harm to us. So, why is it that your likes prefer to augment only our negativities?

You cannot really compare China a communist Nation where things are done by force without the people's opinion to a democratic Nigeria where everyone has a say in aspects like dealing with corruption and other issues. That is terrible analogy.

Talking about restructuring, yes i am very much in support of it.
However, some states in Nigeria have proven to us that with or without restructuring, Nigeria can still work.

Gombe state is not an oil producing state and infact they have one of the lowest internally generated revenue in Nigeria because it is a 'baby' state created in 1996 with no financial or industrial centre, but this state has some of the best roads, health care centres and schools in Nigeria (for their small population). How was this possible??

The Nigerian federal govt does not give a hoot about tourism, but how did Cross river state transform itself to a hub of tourism in west Africa with no oil derivation money??

Look at Lagos state and see the kind of progress it is making, what about Akwa Ibom state (with the former governor)?

The problem with many Nigerians is that we focus on the federal govt too much, forgetting or pardoning our state govts to do whatever they like with the billions of Naira they receive and generate.
What stops our state govts from developing their own electricity (as Lagos and Enugu states are planning on doing)? What stops them from creating their own industries and exporting the products of their own industries?

Nigeria needs restructuring, yes, but even without restructuring, we can still make tremendous progress, but this to a large extent depends on your state govts.

Some fools expect the federal govt to build primary schools for them, they expect the FG to tar their streets or clear their gutters for them. Is that not the height of stupidity?

You are typing too much mate. Get out of the house, you are clearly high on generator fumes

kilo4sure:

Ha no o never, why would l cry when they associate Nigeria with only drugs and crime, since that's the only thing Nigerians are known for, they do nothing else. There was a fake news of a Nigerian who became the best medical student in Russia, but l believe that news is fake, becos a Nigerian cannot do that, all they do is drugs, or maybe he wasn't even a Nigerian. l've heard similar reports of Nigerians being the most educated foreigners in some places in the west, that again is fake news cooked up by the Nigerian media just like their GDP is also fake, how can it be true when 80% in fact 90% live in poverty. I agree with you bro, don't mind these emotional Nigerians on Nairaland defending Nigerians blindly ignorant of the acts of Nigerians world over. South Africa's crime and rapes are influenced by the Nigerians just like they have also corrupted the Ghanians by teaching them crime, can you imagine innocent Ghanians who didn't want to learn crime were forced by the Nigerians. O Nigerians, l weep for Nigeria.

Hahahaha stop being so emotional. No one said Nigerians don't do good things but the fact remains jails around the world have many Nigerians in them hence people see you that way. Why are you known as drug dealers? Scammers? Human traffickers? Because never a day passes without a Nigerian being on the news in one country or the other for crime, and unfortunately that in the minds of non Nigerians cancels the few good news about you. You can't blame anyone for being isolated and heavily searched in all airports your country men and your president told us all you are not worthy of trust . When there are daily killings in kaduna for example with your government dragging it's feet to intervene , do you think you can have a mouth to talk outside your shores?. Yes you commit crimes in the countries you mentioned cry all want but I never said they don't have local criminals, far from it. South Africa last year published that they had 4000 Nigerians in their jails and Nigeria had 0 of their people in your jails , that is embarrassing and you wonder why they see you the way they do. No Country should have that many foreigners in jail.

PissedYagami:

Thickest humans I have ever seen, they have this 1960s mentality

You better develop a thick skin when dealing with the likes of 1966 boys like Nowenuse. You don't have to give him any explanations becoz you owe him none and he doesn't deserve any. When you deal with people like him in life ,you better be prepared for some epic bullsh!t, that's his stock in trade. Sad ,but true.



Kenyans who are living in any city/village/slum in nigeria, please come out and share your experience. Registering on NL is easy, if you have some basic computer knowledge. And even if you don't, theres always a first time for anything in life. Use a random name of your choice, nobody is here to judge you, all we need is your input into the discussion. Tokelezea tafadhali.

Thank you.