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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by GavelSlam: 6:24am On May 06, 2017
Ikechukwuni6:
A nation that supports injustice is not a nation at all.

Imagine, carving out oil rich igboland and attached to Rivers as "punishment" to igbos for Biafra. Till date marginaliz9ng the people of that lamd as "punishment" for getting igbo.

Carving out oil rich delta land to Ondo for "award".

Destroying lands of oil Roch communities and ignoring to Fox it despite knowing the livelihood of the people of those lands descendant heavily on ocean aka fishing.

Oya despite all that, stealing oil companies headquarters and attaching it to lagos. The heavy taxes that should go to the communities whose land is being destroyed goes to Lagos which isn't even contributing not even 1% of that resources. Those taxes is used by lagos to increase its people living standard and beat chest while belittling those who they bleed dry.

Now to resolve all that injustice, immediately they refuse it

Yet this country government wonder why militants is still fighting.
What a joke

You guys love to make false statements with such confidence one might actually believe if one was uninformed.

Does Igbokoda sound like a delta name to you?

Or simply because oil is found in a place it must be owned by delta?

Oil companies pay tax to the federation and most chose to leave their former abodes due to gross insecurity, Warri a case in point.

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Agimor(m): 6:25am On May 06, 2017
But that is the Gospel truth..... You can't site your business in an unsafe environment.... Niger Delta should wise up.

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 6:28am On May 06, 2017
And all the omo - oniles disrupting the ease of business and land development in the west are Niger deltans right?

The oil companies in Houston do they share their proceeds with the rest of the country or is there equity, justice and fairness?

It is easy, if the region is unsafe for the citing if headquarters, it is also unsafe to feed the country.
rafindo:
I thank this dishonourable members for doing the right thing for once.sentiment apart business are sited where safety is guaranteed and ease of doing business is okay.as far I am concerned the Niger delta is one of the top place in the world where ease of doing business is extinct. With marching ground ideology, aimless so called lazy youth leader that destroy your property for not compensating the boys.pls don't give me that Houston rubbish of having the hqtr of major oil coys.if your are sincere the government provide the necessary and tax rebate for oil coys.Nigeria is the only country where the community shout our oil as if all lands do not belong to the Fgn

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 6:30am On May 06, 2017
Then the FG should stop terrorising our region. You have your cocoa, and your cows. Go feed the nation with those.
HughJazz:
You want to force Oil companies HQ back to Niger Delta so you can kidnap their workers and terrorize them again

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Caseless: 6:30am On May 06, 2017
Relocate, if that will bring peace. But oil companies alway give a valid reason why they don't want to relocate.

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 6:33am On May 06, 2017
Violence and injustice go hand in hand. You do not oppress a people and expect them to keep mum. The reason there is stability in the western world is because there is equity, justice and fairness.
Ajibel:


So where you come from, violence is the only language you understand?

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by GavelSlam: 6:34am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
And all the omo - oniles disrupting the ease of business and land development in the west are Niger deltans right?

The oil companies in Houston do they share their proceeds with the rest of the country or is there equity, justice and fairness?

It is easy, if the region is unsafe for the citing if headquarters, it is also unsafe to feed the country.

And the oil companies in Norway that do?

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by aribisala0(m): 7:01am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
Violence and injustice go hand in hand. You do not oppress a people and expect them to keep mum. The reason there is stability in the western world is because there is equity, justice and fairness.
I agree the oppression should be dealt with with the RIGHT solution but do not scapegoat the oil companies the Issue is between the Nigerian state and the Niger Delta people and the proble is the Nigerian constitution. There is no sensible solution that should impose anthing on oil companies.Oil comanies are not the only ones doing business in Nigeria.When they were asked to invest hundreds of millions of dollars exploring for oil no one made this kind of law so the rules cannot be changed once the game has started because those same rules will apply to every other business industry.
I don't know why people are always sentimental and refuse to reason clearly.
So because the Nigerian state is opressing its people the oil companies should pay?
Today Ikpeazu is going to bring people from China to make shoes in Aba when they start will we ask them to reloacate to the north because Cow skins come from there ? People need to start thinking like adults and not like children

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by bayelsaowei(m): 7:02am On May 06, 2017
Site all oil firms and government parastatals in the Niger delta and watch the Niger delta crisis dwindle almost to a stop...

Let all of us suffer together..nonsense country

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by bayelsaowei(m): 7:04am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
And all the omo - oniles disrupting the ease of business and land development in the west are Niger deltans right?

The oil companies in Houston do they share their proceeds with the rest of the country or is there equity, justice and fairness?

It is easy, if the region is unsafe for the citing if headquarters, it is also unsafe to feed the country.
thank you for these questions..

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by aribisala0(m): 7:10am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
And all the omo - oniles disrupting the ease of business and land development in the west are Niger deltans right?

The oil companies in Houston do they share their proceeds with the rest of the country or is there equity, justice and fairness?

It is easy, if the region is unsafe for the citing if headquarters, it is also unsafe to feed the country.
Are the companies compelled to be in Lagos by any Law

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by bakynes(m): 7:13am On May 06, 2017
All these South South boys just cry like babies. What is the big deal in siting your headquarters in another state. The FG collects the tax anyway not the state govt.

You guys are only thinking like this because it's not your investment, is it not better to site their HQ where they know it is safe for life than an uncertain region. A region that can start bombing and kidnapping tomorrow.

I was in PH in 2015, if you see the convoy of a white man probably an Oil worker you would think it was a Governor or president. This you can't see in Lagos, you will probably just see the White man and his driver or a white man jogging on the road. He knows he is relatively safe and can live life not live life in hiding or with Armed security because of fear of kidnapping.

Do you know how much Chevron and Mobil has spent building their headquarters over the years, you now just want them to abandon the facility and start building another one spending millions of dollars again. They don't think with sentiments like you guys do, they think business wise.

These militants see these kidnapping and facility bombing as business it's no more agitation for a greater Niger Delta.

If relative peace comes to the Niger delta today these Oil companies will naturally relocate back nobody needs to tell them.

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by babyfaceafrica: 7:26am On May 06, 2017
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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by aribisala0(m): 7:33am On May 06, 2017
bakynes:
All these South South boys just cry like babies. What is the big deal in siting your headquarters in another state. The FG collects the tax anyway not the state govt.

You guys are only thinking like this because it's not your investment, is it not better to site their HQ where they know it is safe for life than an uncertain region. A region that can start bombing and kidnapping tomorrow.

I was in PH in 2015, if you see the convoy of a white man probably an Oil worker you would think it was a Governor or president. This you can't see in Lagos, you will probably just see the White man and his driver or a white man jogging on the road. He knows he is relatively safe and can live life not live life in hiding or with Armed security because of fear of kidnapping.

These militants see these kidnapping and facility bombing as business it's no more agitation for a greater Niger Delta.

If relative peace comes to the Niger delta today these Oil companies will naturally relocate back nobody needs to tell them.


Let us learn to use logic properly. Rejection of the resolution has NOTHING to do with security.Even if the region was safer than Switzerland with not a single kidnapping it should be rejected on principle. What principle?? government does not and should not have the authority to tell a company where to locate its headquarters. It is like a father inlaw telling his son in law where to live. If he wishes to impose such a condition it must be agreed before the wedding not after.

What we must not forget is if we agree that government has such power in the first place then why will such a power be limited to the oil industry or to decisions about location and not other things

If indeed we wish to move our country away from dependence on oil how will we attract investment in other sectors with this kind of signal. Is the oil industry the only industry in Nigeria

Imagine telling music companies or movie companies or soft drink companies etc where to locate for one pretext or another .This will cause total chaos in our economy. You start telling Davido where to make his videos or who to put in it? It is only when laws are enacted that people begin to realise they have created a monster. The majority of films are sold in Lagos so should we insist all films are shot in Lagos?

This has absolutely nothing to do with security and everything to do with establishhing limits to governent power generally

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Bizibi(m): 7:48am On May 06, 2017
Don't worry,the companies will move there.......
Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by ElsonMorali: 7:50am On May 06, 2017
And Why should they relocate? So that you can keep bombing their facilities and kidnapping their personnel?

Dumb!

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 7:53am On May 06, 2017
There is no sense in the bolded. The cow skins gotten from the north are they stolen or they are bought? Would the Chinese firm or the aba shoe makers need to deplete farmlands, steal the cows and skin them or they simply buy the cow leathers at fair prices??

The oil companies are not all that innocent. You do not live in the host communities and are obviously not from the Niger Delta so i suggest you make enquiries about the pollution and degredation that Shell and its likes have done to our lands or keep mum in this issue. So they can deplete and destroy our lands but not locate their headquarters there?,


aribisala0:
I agree the oppression should be dealt with with the RIGHT solution but do not scapegoat the oil companies the Issue is between the Nigerian state and the Niger Delta people and the proble is the Nigerian constitution. There is no sensible solution that should impose anthing on oil companies.Oil comanies are not the only ones doing business in Nigeria.When they were asked to invest hundreds of millions of dollars exploring for oil no one made this kind of law so the rules cannot be changed once the game has started because those same rules will apply to every other business industry.
I don't know why people are always sentimental and refuse to reason clearly.
So because the Nigerian state is opressing its people the oil companies should pay?
Today Ikpeazu is going to bring people from China to make shoes in Aba when they start will we ask them to reloacate to the north because Cow skins come from there ? People need to start thinking like adults and not like children

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Ajibel(m): 7:56am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
Violence and injustice go hand in hand. You do not oppress a people and expect them to keep mum. The reason there is stability in the western world is because there is equity, justice and fairness.

So, moving the HQs to Niger delta would automatically solve the problem of injustice?

Bro, you are only being sentimental. If it was the other way round, lets say Lagos was in the East or South, the same way the Yorubas fight for the soul of Lagos and claim it's theirs while you folks wail, is what you guys would do to and let other tribes cry of injustice.
Lets leave it as that. Thanks.

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by HughJazz(m): 7:57am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
Then the FG should stop terrorising our region. You have your cocoa, and your cows. Go feed the nation with those.
seems like you don't understand that threats can't get you all you want . If you want those companies to come . You need a peaceful environment and business friendly environment. Will you take your head office to borno now because boko haram tells you to. Sometimes I wonder how some people have brains but don't seem to make use of it. Federal Government can't force companies to move . Its up to your state governments to have a nice and safe investment friendly environment before anything happens. You can threat all you want .

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by nabiz(m): 7:59am On May 06, 2017
rafindo:
I thank this dishonourable members for doing the right thing for once.sentiment apart business are sited where safety is guaranteed and ease of doing business is okay.as far I am concerned the Niger delta is one of the top place in the world where ease of doing business is extinct. With marching ground ideology, aimless so called lazy youth leader that destroy your property for not compensating the boys.pls don't give me that Houston rubbish of having the hqtr of major oil coys.if your are sincere the government provide the necessary and tax rebate for oil coys.Nigeria is the only country where the community shout our oil as if all lands do not belong to the Fgn
keep quiet my friend if you don't know what to say. who told you Niger deltans ar lazy? which part of the region have u been to? do u know the type of work those guys do to survive? you guys destroy their farm land, and fishing water and other means of living and u are here talking rubbish. what else do you want them to do. how do you want them to survive. imagine destroying and polluting all the land in the north. don't you know that this guys have been surviving even before oil, rubbish

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Ajibel(m): 8:00am On May 06, 2017
KINGOFTHEEAST:
now tell me one thing diplomacy has achieved in Nigeria nothing infact the govt ll even kill you but once you turn violent the come begging

Bro, there is injustice in the Niger delta. I am a witness there because I do stay in Delta state when I lived in the East. But you cant tell me moving the HQs of oil companies is a solution to the injustice.

Let me even tell you if you're not aware, there is a new estate being built in Eko Atlantic city called Eko energy estate which most of the oil companies have buy into.

So those agitating for the relocation of their HQs are on a very long thing!

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 8:05am On May 06, 2017
Norway practices true federalism. Or maybe you should get your oil from Norway cuz we Niger deltans are tired of of this father Christmas.
GavelSlam:


And the oil companies in Norway that do?
Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by HughJazz(m): 8:08am On May 06, 2017
dadavivo:
then they should remove all their pipelines from the unsafe region and take it to where their headquarters is that is safe. APC government think they are wise, they're just buying time for the bigger fight that will soon start in the Creeks
this is the reason why your people will never have peace , because you always threaten others and want them to just follow suit. Have a safe environment first . Then the oil companies will even be begging to come there . Not everything is fight fight. I cannot shit inside my house and expect visitors to stay , if my house is the best looking and most awesome house no one will tell visitors not to come, they will force to come themselves .

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by aribisala0(m): 8:09am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
There is no sense in the bolded. The cow skins gotten from the north are they stolen or they are bought? Would the Chinese firm or the aba shoe makers need to deplete farmlands, steal the cows and skin them or they simply buy the cow leaders at fair prices??

The oil companies are not all that innocent. You do not live in the host communities and are obviously not from the Niger Delta so i suggest you make enquiries about the pollution and degredation that Shell and its likes have done to our lands or keep mum in this issue. So they can deplete and destroy our lands but not locate their headquarters there?,


You are the arbiter of where there is sense? If YOU like an idea then there is sense in it?

How do you knoow where I live? Do not talk like a child .You know absolutely NOTHING about me..

The way the law works whether we like it or not one law made today will have consequences tomorrow for businesses that have nothing to do with oil.

The solution to the problems you mention have nothing to do with headquarters location Why not suggest that they must marry Ijaw women.? The problem is not Shell but the Nigerian State who fail to enforce existing laws and which oppresses its people.

What is the defiition of headquarters in your proposed plan and how does that tie in with this modern digital era. In a few years time who is to say headquarters will not be web based? As things are no major decisions are made in Nigeria anyway so thhe idea that there is a headquarters of Shell in Nigeria is absurd.

Companies NOT JUST OIL COMPANIES must make the decision without govenment interference.

If Osinbajo was not deceiving you ask him to start by relocating NNPC

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 8:14am On May 06, 2017
You are now beginning to sound like a broken record. I will not keep going back and forth as I have things to do.

Like I said, if those oil companies cannot locate their headquarters in the Niger Delta then they can as well go drill their oil in Borno.
aribisala0:
You are the arbiter of where there is sense? If YOU like an idea then there is sense in it?

How do you knoow where I live? Do not talk like a child .You know absolutely NOTHING about me..

The way the law works whether we like it or not one law made today will have consequences tomorrow for businesses that have nothing to do with oil.

The solution to the problems you mention have nothing to do with headquarters location Why not suggest that they must marry Ijaw women.? The problem is not Shell but the Nigerian State who fail to enforce existing laws and which oppresses its people.

What is the defiition of headquarters in your proposed plan and how does that tie in with this modern digital era. In a few years time who is to say headquarters will not be web based? As things are no major decisions are made in Nigeria anyway so thhe idea that there is a headquarters of Shell in Nigeria is absurd.

Companies NOT JUST OIL COMPANIES must make the decision without govenment interference.

If Osinbajo was not deceiving you ask him to start by relocating NNPC

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 8:20am On May 06, 2017
What exactly are boko haram fighting for? It is you who sounds like a brainless adult. Even an international media outlet said that the Niger Delta Avengers are one of the few militants groups in the world Who are actually fighting for a good course. It is only dumb people who would even place boko haram terrorists in the same sentence with the ND avengers.

I am done here.

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HughJazz:
seems like you don't understand that threats can't get ypu all you want . If you want those companies to coe . You need a peaceful environment and business friendly environment. Will you take your head office to borno now because boko haram tells you to. Sometimes I wonder how some people have brains but don't seem to make use of it. Federal Government can't force companies to move . Its up to your state governments to have a nice and safe investment friendly environment before anything happens. You can threat all you want .

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by rafindo(m): 8:22am On May 06, 2017
KINGOFTHEEAST:
Yoruba so much love for ss because those administrative offices are in Lagos they have done something better right ....like I always say friendship with sw like water poured in a basket
.keep deluding urself about my origin. rather than look at the merit of them not citing the hqtr in Niger delta u decided to wear ur bigotry with gladness I am happy for u

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Amberon: 8:22am On May 06, 2017
Who said the relocation would curb the injustice? Don't get nothing twisted, we are all for true federalism and resource control.

You don't see NDs wailing about Lagos. Only Igbo's do that.
Ajibel:


So, moving the HQs to Niger delta would automatically solve the problem of injustice?

Bro, you are only being sentimental. If it was the other way round, lets say Lagos was in the East or South, the same way the Yorubas fight for the soul of Lagos and claim it's theirs while you folks wail, is what you guys would do to and let other tribes cry of injustice.
Lets leave it as that. Thanks.

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by GavelSlam: 8:26am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
Norway practices true federalism. Or maybe you should get your oil from Norway cuz we Niger deltans are tired of of this father Christmas.

In May 1963, the Norwegian Government proclaimed sovereignty over the Norwegian continental shelf. A new act was adopted establishing that any natural resources on the shelf belong to the Norwegian state, and that only the King (in practice the Government) has the authority to award licences for exploration and production.
Despite Norway’s proclamation of sovereignty over large sea areas, it was still necessary to clarify the delimitation of continental shelf, and primarily the boundaries with Denmark and the UK. In March 1965, agreements were concluded on the delimitation of the continental shelf on the basis of the median line principle.


http://www.norskpetroleum.no/en/framework/norways-petroleum-history/#main-content-start

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by Ajibel(m): 8:29am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
Who said the relocation would curb the injustice? Don't get nothing twisted, we are all for true federalism and resource control.

You don't see NDs wailing about Lagos. Only Igbo's do that.

Actually my earlier post on this thread was to address the outrage from the Ijaw youths on the refusal of the Reps to endorse the relocation of Oil companies HQ.

With true federalism or resource control, are you also going to determine where the companies site their HQs?

On Lagos issues, lets reverse the case, let me know what you think. If Lagos happened to be in the Niger delta and the south west was the home of oil exploration and the oil companies drilling oil in the south west decides to site their HQs in Lagos which is in the Niger delta, would you still demand that the HQs be moved from your region (Niger delta) to the region (south west) where the oil is being drilled? smiley

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Re: Reps Reject Oil Firms’ Relocation To Niger Delta by HughJazz(m): 8:32am On May 06, 2017
Amberon:
What exactly are boko haram fighting for? It is you who sounds like a brainless adult. Even an international media outlet said that the Niger Delta Avengers are one of the few militants groups in the world Who are actually fighting for a good course. It is only dumb people who would even place boko haram terrorists in the same sentence with the ND avengers.

I am done here.

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a terrorist is a terrorist whether religious or economic. Bombing government infrastructure is terrorism . Kidnapping oil workers is terrorism. Whether you like it or not. You hate the truth. Personal I feel for the people of niger delta. I'll rather have 50% sharing formula of oil proceed to oil producing state a true federalism. But I can't at the same time talk out of my bum and talk with feelings and sentiments but not facts.

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