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The site area of the hall looks more like a desert. Very beautiful architectural masterpiece but will likely be put to real use 30 years from now.

Worksunlimited:
Misplaced priorities...

nice project on one hand... waste of space and resources on the other! oh well.....

hahahaha dis govt stupid die! why dem com build dis fine tin inside desert?? dem for build am inside their city naa... I no won bliv say na gombe city be dat.

Nice structure, I salute d Governor.

EmoBoy:
Oil money

And what's wrong with using oil money to develop all parts of a country, educate all it's citizens, and provide opportunities so all the citizens become highly productive members of societies? Vast amounts of the US was developed by initially redistributing wealth from the coastal areas to build railroads, cities, and industrial parks in the hinterland.

Farmers were subsidized heavily to develop farmlands in the western and mid-west states; people and railroad, electricity, telephone companies were given incentives (tax holidays, land grants, low interest loans) to "open up the interior"; universities, government parastatals and research centers were built "in the "middle of nowhere" .... with the majority of money coming from revenues and taxes on people in states like Massachusetts, New York, Virgina, Maryland, South Carolina, and increasingly California. And now over 300million people are enjoying the lifestyles that come with all these investments made in the past.

Even now, poorer states like West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana receive a disproportionate share of federal money, compared to how much they contribute to the national economy. So the comment "oil money" that I see so often, (which makes it seem that only a certain part of the country is entitled to it) really has no rational basis in modern countries.


That said, the structure is nice, and here are some examples of how it can aid development:

- hotels
- food vendors
- transportation (taxis, buses)
- office needs (photocopy/printing)
- people might start building around it, now that there's some activity and roads
- businesses and shops that employ/support the new residents
- local labour that helped to build it, and may maintain it (cutting grass, guards, fixing)
- tourism: conferences often dedicate some hours to touring, especially for out-of-state attendees

nextstep:
And what's wrong with using oil money to develop all parts of a country, educate all it's citizens, and provide opportunities so all the citizens become highly productive members of societies? Vast amounts of the US was developed by initially redistributing wealth from the coastal areas to build railroads, cities, and industrial parks in the hinterland.

Farmers were subsidized heavily to develop farmlands in the western and mid-west states; people and railroad, electricity, telephone companies were given incentives (tax holidays, land grants, low interest loans) to "open up the interior"; universities, government parastatals and research centers were built "in the "middle of nowhere" .... with the majority of money coming from revenues and taxes on people in states like Massachusetts, New York, Virgina, Maryland, South Carolina, and increasingly California. And now over 300million people are enjoying the lifestyles that come with all these investments made in the past.

Even now, poorer states like West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana receive a disproportionate share of federal money, compared to how much they contribute to the national economy. So the comment "oil money" that I see so often, (which makes it seem that only a certain part of the country is entitled to it) really has no rational basis in modern countries.


That said, the structure is nice, and here are some examples of how it can aid development:

- hotels
- food vendors
- transportation (taxis, buses)
- office needs (photocopy/printing)
- people might start building around it, now that there's some activity and roads
- businesses and shops that employ/support the new residents
- local labour that helped to build it, and may maintain it (cutting grass, guards, fixing)
- tourism: conferences often dedicate some hours to touring, especially for out-of-state attendees

The problem is not in using oil money to develop hither parts.
It's in using it to do developments that are necessary and can refund if not help create cash for further developments to occur without the need to burden the oil money further.
You sef see what they repeated use the oil money to do, is it an economic project?
And for crying out loud, the places producing the said oil money sef isn't even developed so why even leave the and go use proceeds from their resources to create beauty else where when they aren't even able to afford basic amenities.
Oga I know you are smart.
So try to analyze a post critically not just show that you are smart by posting smart, intelligent write ups.
Analyze each point too.
Intelligence isn't useful if its not used wisely.
Yes!
I read your post and got angry enough to reply you because i expected better from you.

CaptainFM1:
This project is out of place. Imaging International conference center in the desert! Things like this should be at the city center, not in the bush. Its a total waste of tax payers money!

Have you ever thought Dubai is a desert?

Dopeluiz:
hahahaha dis govt stupid die! why dem com build dis fine tin inside desert?? dem for build am inside their city naa... I no won bliv say na gombe city be dat.

Emu you, emu you.

Can you make such comment on Eko Atlantic?

What that pragmatic Governor has seen and planned and is executing, your small mind can never fathom, as your eyes can not see beyond your running nose.

jaybee:
Emu you, emu you.

Can you make such comment on Eko Atlantic?

What that pragmatic Governor has seen and planned and is executing, your small mind can never fathom, as your eyes can not see beyond your running nose.

wetn dis one dey tok?? Jadanu!!!

I would have been more excited had I read something like 'New Gombe International Secondary School with capacity for 5000 students'.

Alero3Arubi:
The problem is not in using oil money to develop hither parts.
It's in using it to do developments that are necessary and can refund if not help create cash for further developments to occur without the need to burden the oil money further.
You sef see what they repeated use the oil money to do, is it an economic project?
And for crying out loud, the places producing the said oil money sef isn't even developed so why even leave the and go use proceeds from their resources to create beauty else where when they aren't even able to afford basic amenities.
Oga I know you are smart.
So try to analyze a post critically not just show that you are smart by posting smart, intelligent write ups.
Analyze each point too.
Intelligence isn't useful if its not used wisely.
Yes!
I read your post and got angry enough to reply you because i expected better from you.

The places producing the said 'oil money' are not well developed because the leaders in those places are busy looting the money, instead of using it to improve the lives of the citizenry, while the indigenes are busy engaging in kidnapping, looting, blowing up pipelines, creating toxic illegal refineries etc. which scare away investors, and make it difficult for genuine projects to be established in the area.

laudate:
The places producing the said 'oil money' are not well developed because the leaders in those places are busy looting the money, instead of using it to improve the lives of the citizenry, while the indigenes are busy engaging in kidnapping, looting, blowing up pipelines, creating toxic illegal refineries etc. which scare away investors, and make it difficult for genuine projects to be established in the area.

Has it occurred to you that the said militants are not even up to 3% of the population of the SS?
That they are just political thugs same as boko haram is?
The real people who suffer just don't shout.
They struggle everyday to survive on what can be.
Investors aren't scared off because of the militants oga.
They are scared of because of the under developed community which cannot help their business grow.
Go and ask people who deal with the militants in the creeks, they would tell you they are the friendly.
If you settle them they wont stop you from working or doing your business, they even help guard your territory for you.
The matter here is not to drag whether militants are good or bad.
The matter here is that the generated resources should not just be used anyhow and anywhere but for the people who generate it.
Develop their lands, give them no reason to blame anyone.
Show the world you have tried and in so doing embarrass their laziness if any.

shumuel:
Thanks, are you presently in Gombe ?

Yes

shacxy:
Yes

Okay, Posted there or ?

shacxy:
Yes

Okay, Posted there or ?

shacxy:
Yes

Okay, Posted there or ?

Alero3Arubi:
Has it occurred to you that the said militants are not even up to 3% of the population of the SS?
That they are just political thugs same as boko haram is?
The real people who suffer just don't shout.
They struggle everyday to survive on what can be.
Investors aren't scared off because of the militants oga.
They are scared of because of the under developed community which cannot help their business grow.
Go and ask people who deal with the militants in the creeks, they would tell you they are the friendly.
If you settle them they wont stop you from working or doing your business, they even help guard your territory for you.
The matter here is not to drag whether militants are good or bad.
The matter here is that the generated resources should not just be used anyhow and anywhere but for the people who generate it.
Develop their lands, give them no reason to blame anyone.
Show the world you have tried and in so doing embarrass their laziness if any.

Investors are not scared off because of militants?? Yikes! What planet are you living on? I have even shared my own experiences on another thread, on this forum. https://www.nairaland.com/3781367/reps-reject-oil-firms-relocation/7#56297207

Secondly, who told you that militants are friendly? Have you had dealings with them? Or are you one of them? Please talk to oil workers of multinationals that have worked in the Niger-Delta and ask them to share their real-life experiences with you. Ask them how much their respective companies spend on procuring security within the ND, in order to ensure safety of lives and property. Just as Boko Haram has made the North-East unsuitable for business and investment, the ND militants have rendered their region unsuitable for prospective investors.

If the communities in the Niger-Delta truly want development, let them make their environment suitable for development by ensuring peace & stability in the region. Money & businesses do not thrive or multiply in the midst of hostilities. The said militants that you claim are not even up to 3% of the population of the SS, have made your region unattractive for development.

This was my response to another poster on a different thread:

laudate:
What crime rate would reduce?? Are you for real? Ok, let me share a true life experience with you. Years ago, a telecoms infrastructure company I used to work for, was contracted to install Base Transceiver Sites (BTS) for a multinational GSM operator. The sites were located in Lagos, Ondo, Rivers and Bayelsa states. The logistics company was duly notified to deliver the telecoms equipment to each of the sites in these respective states, and hand them over to our security guys over there. Our engineers & project teams would then go from one location to the next, to install & commission these sites. Oya, let me share the progress report with you:

In Lagos, a stipend of =N=9,000 to =N=15,000 per site was paid to a few omo oniles and we were granted right of way to commence & conclude our projects at each site. In fact, some of them volunteered to provide extra security for us and escort our teams daily, as long as the project lasted. We were able to finish up in record time, without loss of man hours or equipment.

In Ondo state, the communities where the project sites were located, were welcoming, hospitable and approachable. The best pounded yam and bush meat I ever ate that year, was provided free of charge by the indigenes of that community. At the end of the project, the traditional ruler was given a mobile phone courtesy of our office and one month of free calls, limited to a specific amount. He offered to give our Team Lead (an Engineer), a traditional title, which the guy respectfully declined. Again, all our sites in that state were installed without any hitches.

Rivers/Bayelsa was where our staff had their baptism of fire. The telecoms equipment delivered to site was not just stolen, the site was vandalized, and one of the security guards was killed by the local militants. As our engineers arrived on site, they were beaten, overpowered and 2 of them were kidnapped. Those who were lucky to escape, went to report the incident at the nearest police station. Guess what the policemen on duty said? "Na who send una go dat side? We sef, no dey go near dat place!" They refused to follow us to site and arrest the perpetrators.

Needless to say, we abandoned our luggage, vehicle and few remaining tools at the site, then took the next commercial bus back to Lagos. The loss incurred on that project was huge, and we declined any further offers to go back to the region to install any new BTS sites, for the rest of the year.

When we mobilised back to that site, we went along with a heavy detachment of SARS and mobile police snipers. Na who wan die?

Out of 11 sites planned for that Niger-Delta area during that period, we were only able to complete 2 sites. The rest has not been completed as we speak, due to the unrest in that locality.

laudate:
Investors are not scared off because of militants?? Yikes! What planet are you living on? I have even shared my own experiences on another thread, on this forum. https://www.nairaland.com/3781367/reps-reject-oil-firms-relocation/7#56297207

Secondly, who told you that militants are friendly? Have you had dealings with them? Or are you one of them? Please talk to oil workers of multinationals that have worked in the Niger-Delta and ask them to share their real-life experiences with you. Ask them how much their respective companies spend on procuring security within the ND, in order to ensure safety of lives and property. Just as Boko Haram has made the North-East unsuitable for business and investment, the ND militants have rendered their region unsuitable for prospective investors.

If the communities in the Niger-Delta truly want development, let them make their environment suitable for development by ensuring peace & stability in the region. Money & businesses do not thrive or multiply in the midst of hostilities. The said militants that you claim are not even up to 3% of the population of the SS, have made your region unattractive for development.

This was my response to another poster on a different thread:

I am done with you on this.
No No I wont do this with you.
Bye