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| Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by banku(op): 7:08pm On May 16, 2017 |
FIVE HUNDRED AFRICAN CURRENCY TO ONE IS ILLOGICAL BY GOLD STDSource |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by sirusX(m): 7:21pm On May 16, 2017 |
Words to ponder |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Nobody: 7:29pm On May 16, 2017 |
sirusX: |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by OVI75(m): 8:02pm On May 16, 2017 |
Jst a question I Asked My Self After Reading This,How Can I Help Ameliorate This Pathetic State Of Event ? |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by banku(op): 9:48pm On May 16, 2017 |
https://www.ft.com/content/193bbffc-38af-11e7-821a-6027b8a20f23 Ant Financial’s $1.2bn takeover of MoneyGram has drawn fresh criticism from US lawmakers who say the acquisition of the US cash-transfer group by an affiliate of China’s Alibaba, in which Beijing holds an indirect minority stake, poses a national security threat. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by banku(op): 9:54pm On May 16, 2017 |
Alibaba founder Jack Ma (R) is facing criticism from Capitol Hill for the acquisition of MoneyGram by Ant Financial, an Alibaba subsidiary. ) |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by tollyboy5(m): 3:05am On May 17, 2017 |
lalasticlacla : this are words to ponder on what do you think |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by jara: 2:40pm On May 17, 2017 |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 1:42am On Jul 24, 2017 |
Fake economic gurus please show your colo-mentality to explain why Africans must work to death to exchange all our raw materials for printed foreign papers at any rate dictated by them. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by MagicBishop: 1:51am On Jul 24, 2017 |
That's because an expensive Yuan will make Chinese goods more expensive and less competitive in the international market. We've been down this road before where the US accused the Japanese of deliberate devaluing their currency in order to maintain a competitive age in the export market destined for the US. In the case of Africa and Nigeria in particular you produce nothing but consume everything produced outside your shores. Devaluation in the Nigerian scenario helps reduce imports by making imports expensive. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Blue3k(m): 1:52am On Jul 24, 2017 |
googi:Nobody said you had to do anything. If you sell raw commodity your subject to open market prices. If Africans were smart they would refine and process their resources. Only economic illiterates would be surprised about getting the least value for items at bottom of value chain. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by MagicBishop: 1:54am On Jul 24, 2017 |
googi:Stop comparing apples to oranges. China is the world's leading manufacturer and in order to prevent inflation on their exports due to a strong Yuan, the Chinese artificially devalued their currency to maintain an edge in the international export market. In your case you produce nothing and depend on imports for everything. Devaluation helps to prevent a scenario where your limited forex gets exhausted funding imports. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 2:45am On Jul 24, 2017 |
With all respect, those theories about 1. raw materials and finished products while reasonable are no longer valid. It is all politics. All countries sell raw materials except Japan with none or little. All you have to remember is the status of famine in China. First and foremost, they have to accept you as member of the trading clubs. China got in to spite Russia. China still dump inferior and fake raw materials at reasonable exchange rate to them. They are waking up. Too late China made it already. The second point is finished products. Even if we have finished products, we have no market locally and in foreign countries. Obama tried but most of our product were rejected in rich country clubs. Even Africans would rather trade with overseas countries than with one another. Even cassava bread we cannot sell locally. As for finished products, take gold for example. We've had finished gold designers for centuries but which market accept our finished gold apart from ancient times? Note that gold standard used to determine how strong your currencies are. When they could not pay back for all the gold in the Bank of England of those days, they started issuing promissory notes WHILE THE COUNTRY THEY NAMED GOLD COAST were issued printed papers for their gold. So they ditch the gold standard and now depend on printed papers at any exchange rate they desire. If I may respectfully ask, which finished products were Nigeria exporting in the 60s to 80s when naira commanded one and a half US dollar? Which finished product was Zimbabwe exporting before their money became useless. It is all political, no rationale, gold standard or printed papers can explain it. But if you want to hear the truth, ask a mad man. As I wrote somewhere else, when Trump was asked what happens to USA as the biggest debtor in the world if creditors cashed in. He told them the truth. Print more US papers! There are more printed $100.00 US bills outside USA than inside. So Madams and Sirs, stop trying to give rationale from what you learn in London School of Economics. BTW, Innoson is looking for market. Can anyone open Rich countries Club to Innosson? |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 3:27am On Jul 24, 2017 |
Sir, I think you are not up to date on China like Mr. Trump. China has now strengthened their currency by limiting flow or dwindling their reserve. They introduced measures Nigeria Central Bank has been castigated for. They introduced reporting, school fees curb, medical trips scrutinized, foreign loans examined for payments etc. http://www.scmp.com/news/china/economy/article/2076727/china-forex-reserve-unexpectedly-rises-us3-trillion-end-february The point here is that they can weaken their currency and strengthened it as they wish. MagicBishop: |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 12:05pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
London School of Economics gurus Una don skata? See how Una take book kill African countries finish. No difference between them and looters but these ones have some air of economic theories arrogance for their outdated classic studies that has been killing African countries since the 60s. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Bizibi(m): 12:27pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
googi:innoson will look at Africa market first before breaking into the intl market..... But fr Nigeria to survive, y will need to trade within Africa and maybe get into a sound deal with the Asia tigers to have access to the western market,what they teach in schools is what they are using against vulnerable nations via their citizens who learned in their schools. We have the raw materials but no smart person to negotiate and exchange goods with services alone. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 12:57pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Bizibi:May God bless you. I will even go further and say for Nigeria to survive we have to learn how to eat cassava bread, for Innosson to survive Nigerians and the Government must start patronizing their auto and for our agriculture to survive we must start patronizing Tryctors made at home. Then move to African countries and Asians who were in the same situation as us before they got into rich countries club. You would think that if we kept on negotiating on their economic theories since the 60s and our currencies kept hyper-inflating, we would have changed our negotiators. No, we pluck them from Sanford, MIT, Harvard, London Sch. of Economics while we call any opposite view dumb and pedestrian. You hit it right on the head about our negotiators. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by OAFMods: 1:14pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
Nothing to ponder here. The problem is not the Europeans or Americans, let African take their destiny in the own hand just like China Malaysia etc did. African should stop electing criminals with no foresight or insight into the dictate of the world politics. Until then we'd continue in the limbo we have always been. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Bizibi(m): 1:19pm On Jul 24, 2017 |
googi:exactly,we just need to change our thoughts towards monetary gain only,how I wish I had access to the crude oil,gold,diamond in this country,I will just focus on only exchange fr services and tech......we are gradually moving into a phase were investors will only listen to 'crude oil fr your high tech and high end construction equipments + services'. Things they do now is not in every advance economic text books. That is why I look at tompolo and the tom atekes as ignorant fellows,with their sale of illegal oil,they could not use this method to push fr development in their areas........ |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by atheistandproud(m): 9:40pm On Oct 09, 2020 |
banku:This is brilliant |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by banku(op): 12:21am On Oct 10, 2020 |
The question is: Will Africans ever learn? |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Multiplier7(m): 5:26am On Oct 10, 2020 |
What I can say there is this: What that underdeveloped the periphery Nations developed the Core Nations. Nigeria is case study. Upon all the huge resources the country is blessed with, none have been actually utilized for growth and development of the citizens. To kill import of finished product from the Core Nations and triggar export of both services and finished products to the periphery and semi-periphery Nations is key for development in Nigeria. But it boils down to Nigerian's accepting their own products, patronizing and giving it a value starting with our government down to the citizens. USA and China will not and cannot exploit the African countries if these measures are put in place. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by anonimi: 5:27am On Oct 10, 2020 |
googi:Does Innoson comply with the auto standards for rich countries? |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by anonimi: 5:28am On Oct 10, 2020 |
banku:There is no link in the source. |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Blackmann001: 6:07am On Oct 10, 2020 |
African currencies are real cuz of the type of economy dey run...China runs European standard economy,yet won't allow their currency to appreciate..that called manipulations |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by xxxXXXxxx: 2:50pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
When will there be an end to all these exploitation of Africa. what to do |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by tobechi74: 2:54pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
Some Nigerian are richer than nigeria |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by banku(op): 3:52pm On Oct 10, 2020 |
https://thewillnigeria.com/news/opinion-five-hundred-african-currency-to-one-is-illogical-by-gold-std/ anonimi: |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 1:39pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
Anonimi, I know you mean well but it is not about complying with standard or Innoson. No matter how Africa goods are refined to their standard, they block us to gain unfair trade balance in their favor. Obama tried AGOA. Banana from the Caribbean countries was used to play them against one another. What standard does banana have to meet? African food (which I oppose) were left rotten at ports in Europe and America. They do not want us out of their economic domination. https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/trade-development/preference-programs/african-growth-and-opportunity-act-agoa anonimi: |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by Xisnin(m): 1:46pm On Oct 12, 2020 |
This analysis is long but outdated. The gold standard is dead and only some conspiracists and scam artists are calling for its return. China wasn't invited into a so-called rich club, it worked its way into it. Exchange rate is irrelevant to a country's prosperity, it is our economic ignorance and over reliance on foreign goods that make many think so. The question the OP should be asking is why are Nigerians and its economists obsessed with western country's view? |
| Re: Western Countries Raise Hell For China Devaluation But Love Nigeria Devaluation by googi: 1:26pm On Sep 25, 2023 |
See colo-mentality o! Xisnin: |
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