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Eruditor:
Oh but changing drastically is an excuse. Did you see how CFC played against Watford until some first team starters were brought back? That is what a drastic change can do.

Pep will still get a better LB and RB (the types that can bomb forward and play defense) unlike what they have. Try to imagine Juve's season without Alves. Also the break creates more time for his players to imbibe his playing style - because it is beyond a formation.

At Barca or Bayern he would have been sacked? That also depends on what he had available and what the previous manager achieved. Improvements don't show up in only trophies. Jupp Heynckes was not sacked after going trophyless his first season.

He was signed to change City's style and culture. He does not only work on the tactics but also on player recruitment and rebuilding. His structure is still very much at Barca and Bayern till date. Just open your eyes and look. If his structures were ineffective, successive managers after him would have sought to dramatically change it but they don't.

I hope you know for example that Gundögan got injured early on. Gab Jesus (who has outscored Rashford in far less games) came in Jan and got injured. Nolito and Stones got injured at different times as well. They would have contributed more if they were not unfortunate.

Meanwhile, Joe Hart made a lot of gaffes as well in Torino. If I raised that as the reason City won nothing you are the same person that would have told me "if he knew Hart would be a problem, he should have changed Hart".

Allegri is going to win a treble this season. Did he do so in his first and second? Improvement.

iPopAlomo:
Oga... he had six months to plan... he was announced last v year January... he had two transfer window to replace RB & LB... then a blank cheque... instead he brought in a calamity goal keeper, an inexperience defender, an injury prone midfielder, and six months into the season... a striker...

Pep failed in England... simple and short...

And do not being Conte into this... it's an insult to Chelshit fans... we best them 3-0 at the emirate that saw them changed their formation and turn the season around...

Eruditor:
Pep did not win anything in his first season in England. Failed is finite. Wait till his tenure is up then judge. If we judged Jupp based one season in Bayern he failed as well.

Pep was tentative with his defense and rightly so. Besides he had targets but the transfers did not go through. He wanted Bellerin and Bonucci but their parent clubs did not let them go. Calm down.

I have nothing against Conte. But changing a formation and changing a pattern of playing are not the same. One is harder but brings longer lasting results.

I am not one to jubilate or be despondent over one season. Brendan Rodgers, Laudrup, Ranieri had one good season and got booted the next. A new formation will not make you a dynasty. Ask Carlo in CFC.

iPopAlomo:
And you're still dodging Juventus and AC Milan...

raumdeuter:
Do Juventus and Milan play In EPL? I Italy they play more tactical

sod09:
you are still typing abi....after next season, papa ajasco will go on another leave claiming he's tired.
That's a fat lie,he will go cos his tactics is expose. such a coward, sore loser and a racist.

iPopAlomo:
And England... they play more technical...

raumdeuter:
Racist?
Jesus Sane Sterling Fernandinho Sagna clichy who played regularly for him are which race?

Those are the type of statements you make when you've lost an argument

sod09:
these are europeans and americans
what happened to kelechi,etoo,keita and yaya
how many african players did he have at bayern? what future did kelechi and yaya have with city at the moment


oh u agreed he is a sore loser and coward,we getting there gradually

raumdeuter:
What a poor argument. Pep likes non African blacks but hates African blacks. Is the color black of African different from the black of European? Sagna is darker in complexion than etoo Keita and Iheanacho joined together

Aguero has no future at city, thru means he hates Argentine Joe Hart has no future at city that means he hates English players

How many African blacks are currently at arsenal

At Bayern Boateng Alaba Coman Costa were blacks that played under him

These are the type of sentiments we hear when someone has lost an argument.

sod09:
wat are you saying oga dayo
i asked you how many african players did papa ajasco used in bayern

iPopAlomo:
Pep first season in Barca...

Pep first season in Bayern...

Pep first season in England...

Please compare and contrast...

And he be like say you don dey smoke something stronger than weed... Rodgers coached Swansea, Laudrup coached Southampton and Ranieri coached Chelsea... please... don't fool yourself... all coaches/managers within the capacity of their clubs never disappointed in the first season... you think say I no dey watch football nii...


I don't know where Laudrup is... but Rodgers moved on to win the Scottish premier league, Ranieri followed suit...


Pep... coming in with one of the strongest sides in the premiership still struggled to make top 4... even him... can't blame his misfortune in England on his aging RB & LB...

raumdeuter:
Benatia is from Morroco. He bought him for Bayern
Before Guardiola how many African players did Juup use, How many did Carlo use. In current Barcelona how many African players are there, In Madrid how many African players do they use?

sod09:
you dont die easily do you
always looking for excuses by comparing and contrasting. i say guardiola is a racist you dragging other teams and coaches inside

Eruditor:
Oh but changing drastically is an excuse. Did you see how CFC played against Watford until some first team starters were brought back? That is what a drastic change can do.

Pep will still get a better LB and RB (the types that can bomb forward and play defense) unlike what they have. Try to imagine Juve's season without Alves. Also the break creates more time for his players to imbibe his playing style - because it is beyond a formation.

At Barca or Bayern he would have been sacked? That also depends on what he had available and what the previous manager achieved. Improvements don't show up in only trophies. Jupp Heynckes was not sacked after going trophyless his first season.

He was signed to change City's style and culture. He does not only work on the tactics but also on player recruitment and rebuilding. His structure is still very much at Barca and Bayern till date. Just open your eyes and look. If his structures were ineffective, successive managers after him would have sought to dramatically change it but they don't.

I hope you know for example that Gundögan got injured early on. Gab Jesus (who has outscored Rashford in far less games) came in Jan and got injured. Nolito and Stones got injured at different times as well. They would have contributed more if they were not unfortunate.

Meanwhile, Joe Hart made a lot of gaffes as well in Torino. If I raised that as the reason City won nothing you are the same person that would have told me "if he knew Hart would be a problem, he should have changed Hart".

Allegri is going to win a treble this season. Did he do so in his first and second? Improvement.

raumdeuter:
Someone used black players like Boateng Alaba Costa Coman, Jesus, Fernandinho, Kompany, CLichy, Sagna Sane Yaya you say it must be African he bought Benatia

You no satisfy.

I askd you how many Africans dey Barca Madrid Atletico, How many Africans did Van Gaal, Juup and Ancelotti use at the same Bayern

That is to show how illogical that line of reasoning is

Jose didnt use Asians he is also racist

Eruditor:
Pep did not win anything in his first season in England. Failed is finite. Wait till his tenure is up then judge. If we judged Jupp based one season in Bayern he failed as well.

Pep was tentative with his defense and rightly so. Besides he had targets but the transfers did not go through. He wanted Bellerin and Bonucci but their parent clubs did not let them go. Calm down.

I have nothing against Conte. But changing a formation and changing a pattern of playing are not the same. One is harder but brings longer lasting results.

I am not one to jubilate or be despondent over one season. Brendan Rodgers, Laudrup, Ranieri had one good season and got booted the next. A new formation will not make you a dynasty. Ask Carlo in CFC.

Spy360:
Lets start with Conte.

Changing formation is a broader way of changing pattern of play. Conte did not just change formation or pattern but also players. He dropped Iva, moves Apsi to CB, introduced Moses, and moved Hazard to CAM. He won the league from there on.

Bellerin and Bonnuci? Must Pep buy other clubs stars to build his own to win? He could as well buy the entire Chelsea squad so as to win the league. Lame.

Unless you want to classify Pep with the likes of Rodgers, Laudrup and Ranieri, DON'T EVER MENTION THEM AGAIN.

To your first question.

For me and every other football fan, Pep's first season is a failure, and rightly so. Pelligrini didn't get the sack for Pep to come and have a free season. Pep came to do what Pellegrini couldn't do- win a treble, 'just as he as aclaimed to have always done'.

Pep is a fraud. Case closed.

Spy360:
All these stories hold no excuse whatsoever.

I mean he is Pep Guardiola isn't he? He just has to win with his record + hype.

This was what the pundits said before a ball was kicked this season...

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37040156

17 out of 33 said City would win, their only reason was Pep.

snrman:
How much assnal buy xhaka self.The guy day play like say na 89m

raumdeuter:
Someone used black players like Boateng Alaba Costa Coman, Jesus, Fernandinho, Kompany, CLichy, Sagna Sane Yaya you say it must be African he bought Benatia

You no satisfy.

I askd you how many Africans dey Barca Madrid Atletico, How many Africans did Van Gaal, Juup and Ancelotti use at the same Bayern

That is to show how illogical that line of reasoning is

Jose didnt use Asians he is also racist

iPopAlomo:
Benatia isn't technically black... Pep don't like Black African players... not Arab Africans... Black Africans...

raumdeuter:
Lol this is hilarious.

How many black Africans dey Madrid, Barcelona Arsenal Atletico etc How many black Africans dey Bayern before Pep came and How many black Africans dey Bayern after Pep has gone

iPopAlomo:
Talk about Pep... how many are in his team...?!!!

And as for Arsenal... we get them before...

Eruditor:
You are trying too hard. Changing formation has nothing to do with pattern of play. Arsenal recently picked up 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 but don't play like Chelsea or Juve. Barca have used 3-4-3 even since Pep's days and they don't play like Chelsea.
Mou built that team as a defend first option and that was the foundation Conte built on. That's one.

Conte moved A here and B there. That is not just moot but superficial. When he moved Ake and John Terry against Watford did they not leak like a faulty tap? Yes, because personnel matters. If CFC had damning injuries and were forced to use Iva as RB they would have suffered in some games and it would not all be Conte's fault. That's how to be objective.

LOL. Bellerin is a star? And David Luiz, Batshuayi and Alonso were not stars for their former clubs?

Why you dey talk like pikin?

I mentioned those managers to show you a successful term is not based on one stint. Heck, RDM had resigned after winning the UCL and he would have been compared with Pep but TIME, TIME is what exposed him as a dud.

Pep's first season he did not win a title in England. To fail, he would have to end his tenure there today. If he does not and goes on to coach for subsequent seasons we would judge him a failure based on the integration of all his seasons put together.

Pep came to change the City footballing culture, playing style, dominance and team. City want to become a juggernaut not some has been like AFC. If he had done everything in one season you are the same person that would have said he did nothing but inherit a good team bla bla - after all, you are saying it about his time in Barca.

If he is a fraud, he is a better fraud than Wenger. Case closed.

Eruditor:
The Pundits don't know anything but you do. And you would always be right because you make your own analysis based on a result you have already seen. But hardworking Pundits have to project.

God punish them for being wrong.

All hail Wenger. 3rd best manager according to you behind only Conte and Poch.

raumdeuter:
I get am before na property? Pep too had Etoo Keita and Yaya etc before.

WHy should it be only Pep show us if other clubs have it so that we will know say Pep hates unless you wan say Enrique, Zidane Juup, Ancelotti, Simeone Wenger(currently) all hate black players who are playing for African countries

MrDojo:
Na wa ooo..... una nor dey tire 4 pep mata? He had a bad season no body should deceive him/her self... but he knw he'll spend crazy to rectify the failure that is this season.... a manager does not spend over £250M to come 3rd and its nt considered a failure. ....


Can't wait to see arsenal in europa next season