4dor:


In as much as I'm a fan of you talking about your experience I think you got the Buhari/corruption link wrong. So are you saying it was 2015 that the world started viewing us as a corrupt country? You see this corruption thing went mainstream after 1979 and it has gone down hill from there, leaders till date have only paid eye service to it. So Buhari echoing what we are and the world already knows is not the problem. The first stage of solving a problem is admitting the problem.

We are not saying corruption started around 2015. The issue is going to say it at the international scene. Comon!, who does that?! Is there no corruption in the American system, albeit on a low level? How often do you see the president of a country going to rubbish his state before the world? It seems he only remembers his country is corrupt and picks his lines once he's traveled.
And have you noticed that the tiny shred of respect Nigeria had has gone since he came onboard? No country takes the "giant of Africa" serious anymore. Even Mali and war-torn Libya now deport our citizens. Nigerians are killed with impunity outside and nothing happens cos they know the Nigerian govt won't do jack.
Me am just waiting to round-off my program here and scram!

FrankNetter:
Sometime ago, while driving around Chicago Heights, I came across this "okirika shop". It reminded me of the days I used to go to Oil Mill and Mile 1 park (Port Harcourt people go understand) to shop for clothes. This shop is just the yankee version of benddown select.
While coming over to the USA, I dashed my cousins most of my stuff (including my brogues shoe). I was so happy to see some brogues shoes and vintage shirts in this shop though. This one na first grade Okirika, new bale!

that last pic na morris shirt.. na 2.5k naira.
if i show yankee, na okirika i go dey wear..

FrankNetter:
What if breeze mistakenly blows this dude into nairaland's politics section? and he sees the hateful comments we throw at each other? How we tribally stereotype each other and look for every opportunity to spew hatred? Do you guys realize nairaland is the biggest? nigerian forum? Are we representing ourselves well? What would the world think when they come across the comments on this forum? Shaming ourselves all because of "likes"?

This situation is a perfect example of "you think you are doing me? You are doing yourself" Left for me, I think seun should copy reddit and quora on the upvote thingy, that way, stupid and tribalistic comments would get so many downvotes, it would deter tribalists from even commenting.

One thing we should all bear in mind is that the internet never forgets.

Sooner than later he'll get here, it's quite easy, as long as he keeps reading up on Nigeria. It's a messed up situation Nairaland and Nigerians have put themselves into.

cedar3:

We are not saying corruption started around 2015. The issue is going to say it at the international scene. Comon!, who does that?! Is there no corruption in the American system, albeit on a low level? How often do you see the president of a country going to rubbish his state before the world? It seems he only remembers his country is corrupt and picks his lines once he's traveled.
And have you noticed that the tiny shred of respect Nigeria had has gone since he came onboard? No country takes the "giant of Africa" serious anymore. Even Mali and war-torn Libya now deport our citizens. Nigerians are killed with impunity outside and nothing happens cos they know the Nigerian govt won't do jack.
Me am just waiting to round-off my program here and scram!

If I'm a thief and you call me a thief, did you do anything wrong? Yaradua got elected from a fraudulent election he got sworn in and said he knows the election that brought him in wasn't fair yet we hailed him. Just check the stories on front page and there is no single day you won't see a Nigerian doing something bad abroad. I agree that Buhari is a problem but the thing is he's not even the major problem. Citizens get the President they deserve.

As for international respect, if you are a keen observer of international politics then you will agree we've had a bit of credibility, the change in attitude from the top countries is evident for everyone to see.

Also, deportation is not how you measure international respect, if you go to any country and you break their laws you will be deported it has nothing to do with respect. Btw I know a neighbor that was deported from Libya like 15 years ago so it's not a new thing smartphones and the Internet has just made these stories easily accessible.

FrankNetter:
I was wiping down the tops, counters and kitchen stuff, when the dude (who was sweeping) pulled up beside me, he was like "obi, you not from around here, are you?" I replied, "na bro, I'm from Africa" (most people here think Africa is a country, so its easier for me to say Im from Africa to avoid too much talk). Surprisingly, he asked, "what country bro?" I replied "Nigeria".

"You miss home?"

I replied "Yeah man, its a great place with nice weather and lovely people"

@FRANKNETTER don't worry our generation would change the world!
the damage has been done. what happens hence forth depends on us.
#NiceGIST

4dor:


In as much as I'm a fan of you talking about your experience I think you got the Buhari/corruption link wrong. So are you saying it was 2015 that the world started viewing us as a corrupt country? You see this corruption thing went mainstream after 1979 and it has gone down hill from there, leaders till date have only paid eye service to it. So Buhari echoing what we are and the world already knows is not the problem. The first stage of solving a problem is admitting the problem.

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@FRANKNETTER what about that white babe, your colleague ..that one wey no dey go church, wey message you for Facebook...

You no do that babe,again...

4dor is correct.

FSociety, you are the one missing the point.

electronic:

@FRANKNETTER don't worry our generation would change the world!
the damage has being done. what happens hence forth depends on us.
#NiceGIST

make i find small trouble

FrankNetter:

see eh, you do not know how much buhari's utterances have damaged our image internationally. How do you start defending your country when your president has gone on international television to shame all the citizens of the country. One thing we should all know is that the internet never forgets. Here's someone who has never been to the country before, judging every single person based on what he read on the internet.

Bro...don't get it twisted!....Buhari's statement made as much difference as if you add a barrel of water into the ocean. How many people ever did listen to what he had to say? How many people even know him?...try doing a test in your workplace... ask who is Buhari and I can guarantee you at least 70% will have no idea. Like you said earlier.... Africa is seen as a country but then again..... Nigeria is in a league of its own...there is Africa...and there is Nigeria.... negative Nigeria.... either a bunch of crooks ...always scheming to scam people's money...or.... as a guy... always trying to marry for papers and always having a wife and kids back home waiting. That has been and still is the perception of Nigerians abroad....nothing changed when Buhari said what he said. Tell people you are African.... they'll be pretty much cool with you. ... tell them you are Nigerian... and you'll see the difference. Nigerians...scammers.... all other Africans... hungry and starving....you will never hear of Nigerians as hungry and starving! That's the reality.
On Culture..... of all the groups. ..Whites have no Culture..none. The Akatas have been intentionally stripped of their culture during slavery...but still... have some left within. Do you (not personal) ever realized that of all the religions.... none... not one was founded by Whites? They have no Culture period.
In all... I do like how you are really questioning whether we are the ones that are promoting the negative image of ourselves....and how much NL is a platform for promoting self hatred.

NONNYG:
make i find small trouble

FrankNetter:


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see eh, you do not know how much buhari's utterances have damaged our image internationally. How do you start defending your country when your president has gone on international television to shame all the citizens of the country. One thing we should all know is that the internet never forgets. Here's someone who has never been to the country before, judging every single person based on what he read on the internet. Over the course of our conversation, he brought up a lot of topics: jollof rice (I later told him about fried rice too), fufu and our food in general.

Bro....right from day one...u have been a Buhari hater....always finding away to link Buhari to everything on this ur thread. Seeing Nigerians as corrupt people have been there even before Obasanjo. This has nothing to do with Buhari, or did ur friend at work specifically tell u he heard that from Buhari? The truth is Nigerians are the one destroying themselves abroad....and we are indeed fantastically corrupt. Do ur part by being different at work..so others will have another perception about Nigerians. Blaming Buhari for ur friend calling Nigerians corrupt is just deep rooted hatred which u av displayed several times on this thread and on your blog. You can do ur thing here without bringing in politics into it all the time. I flew in to NY and everyone could see the compound corruption going on at the MMIA. From immigrations,customs, police,airline staffs,airport workers, FAAN officials. Visitors see all this too. Or is it our Yahoo boys that are always looking for preys abroad. Why won't they say we are corrupt. Play your part by not being dubious or corrupt and your friend at work will know not every Nigerian is corrupt!

Originalsly:
Bro...don't get it twisted!....Buhari's statement made as much difference as if you add a barrel of water into the ocean. How many people ever did listen to what he had to say? How many people even know him?...try doing a test in your workplace... ask who is Buhari and I can guarantee you at least 70% will have no idea. Like you said earlier.... Africa is seen as a country but then again..... Nigeria is in a league of its own...there is Africa...and there is Nigeria.... negative Nigeria.... either a bunch of crooks ...always scheming to scam people's money...or.... as a guy... always trying to marry for papers and always having a wife and kids back home waiting. That has been and still is the perception of Nigerians abroad....nothing changed when Buhari said what he said. Tell people you are African.... they'll be pretty much cool with you. ... tell them you are Nigerian... and you'll see the difference. Nigerians...scammers.... all other Africans... hungry and starving....you will never hear of Nigerians as hungry and starving! That's the reality.
On Culture..... of all the groups. ..Whites have no Culture..none. The Akatas have been intentionally stripped of their culture during slavery...but still... have some left within. Do you (not personal) ever realized that of all the religions.... none... not one was founded by Whites? They have no Culture period.
In all... I do like how you are really questioning whether we are the ones that are promoting the negative image of ourselves....and how much NL is a platform for promoting self hatred.

What you wrote about culture is very very dumb.

How can you say a sub group does not have culture?
Do You even know what culture is

Culture is way of life, and saying they have no culture is tantamount to saying that they are dead, because as long as you are alive, you must have a way of life, which is your culture.

Stop reasoning in such manner, it's wrong

Ugosample:



What you wrote about culture is very very dumb.

How can you say a sub group does not have culture?
Do You even know what culture is

Culture is way of life, and saying they have no culture is tantamount to saying that they are dead, because as long as you are alive, you must have a way of life, which is your culture.

Stop reasoning in such manner, it's wrong

I think he's right if you come to the u.s you'd understand that the akatas(black Americans) are lost between the western culture and their roots. They believe they are Americans because they gained citizenship by birth which is fine but what's your definition of culture when you have nothing to show for it? the funniest thing is they have hatred for Africans so much. I don't know if it's some gender stuff but the hatred is there

FrankNetter:
Was arranging my room and came across this. How time flies

True bro this reminds me of back in nigeria i was so eager to come to the u.s like make we come see the yankee wey them dey talk about lol. welcome letter never arrive i don master interview requirments those hosiptal names and address dey boil for my head. you no go blame me

As Una don enter make Una help others come over nah, that's how we do it in QATAR/UAE thread

therealchase:




i think he's right if you come to the u.s you'd understand that the akatas(black americans) are lost between the western culture and their roots. They believe they are americans because they gained citizenship by birth which is fine but what's your definition of culture when you have nothing to show for it? the funniest thing is they have hatred for africans so much. I don't know if it's some gender stuff but the hatred is there

You don't get my point

There is nobody, or sub group without its distinct culture.

The black Americans have their distinct culture, the Hispanics have their own, and the whites have theirs too.

Culture is your way of life, and how can you say that a group has no way of life?

That is the dumb statement many Africans say, that a group have no culture

Ugosample:



You don't get my point

There is nobody, or sub group without its distinct culture.

The black Americans have their distinct culture, the Hispanics have their own, and the whites have theirs too.

Culture is your way of life, and how can you say that a group has no way of life?

That is the dumb statement many Africans say, that a group have no culture

Enough already. What's with your inferiority complex? He's right in a way and you're right in a way. Infact he's probably more right than you are cos if a group of people do things differently or their ways of life don't tally much, then there's little or no culture. That doesn't mean there aren't still teeny weeny things they have or do in common. You don't have to label all Africans (yourself included) dumb. WTF

toluine56:

Enough already. What's with your inferiority complex? He's right in a way and you're right in a way. Infact he's probably more right than you are cos if a group of people do things differently or their ways of life don't tally much, then there's little or no culture. That doesn't mean there aren't still teeny weeny things they have or do in common. You don't have to label all Africans (yourself included) dumb. WTF

I hardly make comments here, but I had to respond to this discourse.
With due respect, you got @ugosample’s assertions wrong. In language, there is what is called “implied meaning” and “what is meant”. For example, You are a boy. It might mean a young male or you are not grown-up. What is implied is always different from what is meant. Now to the issue of culture; as rightly stated by him, culture is a way of life, so there is nobody in this world without culture albeit intangible or how strange it is to us. Eating habit, food, language, dressing, piercing, even tattooing are all parts of one’s culture. Before now the majority of people in Nigeria had several piercings or tattoos on different parts of their bodies however how crude the artistry was then. But now if our parents see us trying to get the same tattoos they say we are copying other people’s culture. Cultures, traditions and norms go hand in hand.
You may say they have lost their cultural values, and not that they do not have any culture.
In our modern society chatting and texting are now part of our culture. Culture is invariably in a state of change. Because people are not doing was been done before does not mean they do not have any culture. It is either they have picked up something different from the previous conventions or modified it.
Another example is polygamy practised widely until recently in Nigeria. Would it be right to say that if someone decides not to take up a second wife the person has lost his culture? There is always the issue of “identification”
We tend to choose the way we want to be identified or what to be identified with. I may be a Nigerian and yet want to be identified as an American. This might be so if I am in that environment, but there are some things that can identify us namely skin colour(for black people), facial appearance (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc), language, food; these might be very difficult to change.
The African-Americans, of course, do have culture. They have a peculiar way of life, even if it is different what is obtained on the African continent. Even a child born of Nigerian parents but grew up in America will most of the time have different values from a child born and grew up in Nigeria.
Let us try to learn from each other, we cannot always see things in the same way. I respect other people’s opinion but that does not mean I have to accept it. Thank you very much.

bayoshenko:


I hardly make comments here, but I had to respond to this discourse.
With due respect, you got @ugosample’s assertions wrong. In language, there is what is called “implied meaning” and “what is meant”. For example, You are a boy. It might mean a young male or you are not grown-up. What is implied is always different from what is meant. Now to the issue of culture; as rightly stated by him, culture is a way of life, so there is nobody in this world without culture albeit intangible or how strange it is to us. Eating habit, food, language, dressing, piercing, even tattooing are all parts of one’s culture. Before now the majority of people in Nigeria had several piercings or tattoos on different parts of their bodies however how crude the artistry was then. But now if our parents see us trying to get the same tattoos they say we are copying other people’s culture. Cultures, traditions and norms go hand in hand.
You may say they have lost their cultural values, and not that they do not have any culture.
In our modern society chatting and texting are now part of our culture. Culture is invariably in a state of change. Because people are not doing was been done before does not mean they do not have any culture. It is either they have picked up something different from the previous conventions or modified it.
Another example is polygamy practised widely until recently in Nigeria. Would it be right to say that if someone decides not to take up a second wife the person has lost his culture? There is always the issue of “identification”
We tend to choose the way we want to be identified or what to be identified with. I may be a Nigerian and yet want to be identified as an American. This might be so if I am in that environment, but there are some things that can identify us namely skin colour(for black people), facial appearance (Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc), language, food; these might be very difficult to change.
The African-Americans, of course, do have culture. They have a peculiar way of life, even if it is different what is obtained on the African continent. Even a child born of Nigerian parents but grew up in America will most of the time have different values from a child born and grew up in Nigeria.
Let us try to learn from each other, we cannot always see things in the same way. I respect other people’s opinion but that does not mean I have to accept it. Thank you very much.

Okay. My grouse was the African thingy. I hardly comment here too except am pushed to. You could see I also agreed partially with him. One love. Thanks

And you think it will be well with politicians in Nigeria? Imagine someone's dream for the youths. I weep for Nigeria

abduldope:
frank from your previous post I have to say THANK YOU for opening this thread.
you are a real eye opener to us



those coming in here to post anything related to DON'T COME TO YANKEE




Thunder FIRE!!! una Nyash


NONSENSE

guyz are not smiling oooooo,baba make you take ham easy ooo abeg............

NONNYG:
As Una don enter make Una help others come over nah, that's how we do it in QATAR/UAE thread

u know nah

Ugosample:



You don't get my point

There is nobody, or sub group without its distinct culture.

The black Americans have their distinct culture, the Hispanics have their own, and the whites have theirs too.

Culture is your way of life, and how can you say that a group has no way of life?

That is the dumb statement many Africans say, that a group have no culture

yea i catch you. Culture is the total way of life of people the way they live,interact they have their own beliefs and ways of life fine but don't forget the akatas(black americans) originally were africans who were brought to the u.s during the slavery era. Their culture is rooted in West and Central Africa. Slavery greatly restricted the ability of African-Americans to practice their original cultural traditions, many practices, values and beliefs survived,but over time they've been modified or blended into with European cultures such as that of the Native americans. so what's that? where's the culture if it's been modified?

OluDare01:
Most mechanics you will find around are Mexicans and the number of cars:mechanic ratio is so high

nawa for Mexicans ooo.. na. everything dem dey do?

anodebeanthony:
And you think it will be well with politicians in Nigeria? Imagine someone's dream for the youths. I weep for Nigeria

Are these barrows for graduates or non-graduates? I don't quickly jump into conclusion without asking question, who are they for, before making concluded verdict. If the barrows are for people who have been doing the business, it is good, in a way. Everyone can't work in government offices, and that, I can't support the barrows are for graduates. Also, if one has not done the job of barrowing before, I will not accept that for them. So, It depends on, who are barrows meant for.

No. From his postings, I know he is not in the South-Side (It's over 95% black, but very few Nigerians live there). He is in the South Suburbs. South side is closer to downtown proper. For the most part, most of the south suburbs are crime free. Of course, there are some south suburbs that have their own share of crime. I am in the far north West suburbs...about 55 miles (about 90 kilometers) from downtown Chicago.

Afam4eva:
@FrankNetter
Do you live in or close to South-side Chicago? How is the crime situation in your side of Chicago?

Toppytek:


nawa for Mexicans ooo.. na. everything dem dey do?

Not everything just something to survive some of them do under table jobs(you suppose understand . Most of them are illegal immigrants that don't have the requirements to be employed so they do those jobs and are paid lesser than the minimum wage and them they work fireee

Fun day at the beach

PDPGuy:
Fun day at the beach

only girls snap water

therealchase:


Not everything just something to survive some of them do under table jobs(you suppose understand . Most of them are illegal immigrants that don't have the requirements to be employed so they do those jobs and are paid lesser than the minimum wage and them they work fireee

e yeah.. that's one of the reasons I don't support anything illegal.. it's not easy to work talkless of been paid less than the minimum wage... I hope i'd find it easier peradventure am opportune to travel abroad prolly the US in other not to fall a victim of illegal immigrant thingy.