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| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:36pm On May 20, 2017 |
Droldnallufepoh:More evidence that disproves your "research" . |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Droldnallufepoh: 3:37pm On May 20, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:okay |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by DoctorAlien(m): 3:42pm On May 20, 2017 |
Droldnallufepoh:I think you're the one who learnt something from me today. I'm very happy that from today on, I will never see you ignorantly claim that the formation of stars and planets are fully explained. No, no, you don't need to thank me. It's my duty to educate "freethinkers". |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Droldnallufepoh: 3:45pm On May 20, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:educate us by claiming big bang is an atheistic claim educate us by claiming big bang is an explosion educate your people by calling anyone who's "opinion" differs from yours ad hater of your imaginary friend eg Kingebukasblog as for the formation of stars, I already told you to read a bit about science, that should help you on your way ![]() you can thank me but it would be understandable if you don't |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by akintom(m): 4:09pm On May 20, 2017 |
Deicide:* Yes, intelligence is a biological concept, and is relative in humans. *intelligence can be increased and decreased, via negative and positive neuro-conditioning cues. E.g- tell a normal child at iq score of 50, that a test shows that he has the best mental ability in the class. But it will show in his results, if he practices X, Y and Z (positive cues). If this child believes this, it has been confirmed that the child's iq score will increase. *please note, these research that concluded by saying that atheists are more intelligent than religious folks, Are designed within specific domain of enquiry and selected variables. *in this study, the narrowed domain was INSTINCT and the variable considered was STRESSFUL SITUATION. * According to the study, the atheists have overcome the instinct that makes human brain, to lean easily towards God's help, during stressful situations. *atheists understand and know, what stressful or perplexing situation are, therefore, they engage their mental power to address the situation. *religious folks on the other hand, switch easily towards "God's power", when in the same situation. *if you objectively assess the outcome of these two approaches, the atheists on the average, will have positive results, that will be significant. The above, explains the conclusion! |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by akintom(m): 4:23pm On May 20, 2017 |
Droldnallufepoh:Those cluster of christards, are the irritants that made intellectually honest Christians, stop commenting here. Their pungent idiocy, has terribly damaged the Christian religion on NL. By presenting Christians as extremely hateful, savagery and primitive. Also, most atheists avoid getting into discussion with Christians, because of the filthy antecedents of these buffoons. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Droldnallufepoh: 4:28pm On May 20, 2017 |
akintom:you have a brutal way with words |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Born2Freak(f): 5:24pm On May 20, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Really? Aren't South Korea, China, Japanese, Sweden atheistic countries? |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:38pm On May 20, 2017 |
Born2Freak:North Korea and China are atheist nations . Japan and Sweden are not atheist countries . |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Deicide: 6:10pm On May 20, 2017 |
akintom:No i don't think intelligence can be increased it can only be worked upon so the person might seem more knowledgeable but this doesn't mean the IQ increased or anything. and by the way intelligence by IQ is how fast someone can understand something and then retain the information. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Akiintom: 6:22pm On May 20, 2017 |
Please note! my familiar moniker akintom is banned at present. This is my alternative moniker. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Deicide:INTELLIGENCE Intelligence has been defined in many different ways including as one's capacity for logic, understanding , self-awareness , learning , emotional knowledge , planning , creativity , and problem solving . It can be more generally described as the ability to perceive information, and to retain it as knowledge to be applied towards adaptive behaviors within an environment or context. - Wikipedia Based on the above definition, intelligence can be increased. Deicide:Not "seem", it can be objectively established. Knowledge is a component of intelligence, and not intelligence itself. IQ test is an objective means of ranking intelligence. And it's realistically valid. Deicide:No, IQ has a more grand assessment function than your description. Pls check it out. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by PastorAIO: 6:42pm On May 20, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:With a brief google check this is what I found: So I would like to take a look at these 10 pieces of evidence and explain why they could not be further from evidence for something as silly as young earth creationism.http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2014/08/ken-hams-10-facts-that-prove-creationism-debunked/ |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by PastorAIO: 6:43pm On May 20, 2017 |
PastorAIO:if the quotation is long we can sum it down to this: Yet their discovery has not been published in any journal, or presented to any scientific organizations, they simply sit in their own arrogance and claim to know all about it. So as you can see, not a single one of these 10 claims proves creationism and none of them even provide something close. All they provide is proof that Answers in Genesis is either completely scientifically ignorant, or they think their members and supporters are, so they exploit that ignorance. Given that they are consistently untruthful, I think we can safely assume they know they are lying, but have a great understanding that their lies are worth money. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Blogthug(m): 7:12pm On May 20, 2017 |
itsJude:intelligent or Autistic? here is the research that shows atheism and autism are connected http://www.livescience.com/20654-autism-belief-god.html |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Blogthug(m): 7:24pm On May 20, 2017 |
akintom:intelligence isn't relative to humans, other animals have been shown to be highly intelligent |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Akiintom: 7:28pm On May 20, 2017 |
Blogthug:* Yes, intelligence is a biological concept, and is relative in humans. The above, has no connection with your remark. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Deicide: 8:03pm On May 20, 2017 |
Akiintom:@bolded shows that there is a limit depending on the individual Not "seem", it can be objectively established. Knowledge is a component of intelligence, and not intelligence itself.A person that is intelligent might not necessarily be knowledgeable No, IQ has a more grand assessment function than your description. Pls check it out.i meant to say intelligence sorry |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Nobody: 9:38pm On May 20, 2017 |
Interesting..... |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by firstking01(m): 11:16pm On May 20, 2017 |
The luck this ignorant generation have is the emergence of our lord jesus christ.... |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Born2Freak(f): 5:10am On May 21, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Based on what sir? How do you define an atheist nation? I ask this because Japan, Sweden, China etc all have an overwhelming number of atheists. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by DoctorAlien(m): 11:16am On May 21, 2017 |
PASTORAIO, compare Dan Arel's poor attempt at producing a rebuttal to the full content of Ken Ham's "The 10 Best Evidences from Science that Confirm a Young Earth" found in the link below: https://answersingenesis.org/evidence-for-creation/the-10-best-evidences-from-science-that-confirm-a-young-earth/?utm_source=aigsocial08202014tenevidences&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=facebooktwittergooglelinkedin Dan Arel was dishonest in picking only the first few sentences in each of the points contained in Ken Ham's piece. Of course all his "rebuttals" were equally rebutted in the "Rescuing devices" section of each point made in Ken Ham's piece. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by PastorAIO: 12:19pm On May 21, 2017 |
DoctorAlien:Of course 'rebuttals' can go back and forth till the day of judgment, but I think the crux of Ken Ham, or is it Dan Arel is here: PastorAIO:A rebuttal to end all rebuttals would be to simple provide the real scientific journal in which their discoveries were presented and the acceptance of the scientific community. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by plaetton: 12:56pm On May 21, 2017 |
akintom:The problem, I always say, is that the so-called Nigerian Christians hardly ever understand what Christianity is , how it began and how it had evolved over the ages. Nigerians see and use Christianity as just another convenient superstition to replace the superstitions of their forefathers. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Akiintom: 1:05pm On May 21, 2017 |
plaetton:You couldn't have said it better. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by PastorAIO: 1:11pm On May 21, 2017 |
plaetton:Olboi, you don summarize the beginning and the end of the old tin. Clap for yourself. I wish I could put those words on a plaque and hang it on my wall. Abeg dash me copyright. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by plaetton: 1:13pm On May 21, 2017*. Modified: 4:57pm On May 21, 2017 |
Deicide:Have you heard of Neural Plasticity ? In layman's terms, " practice makes perfect ". This simply means that if you practice anything , any Skill long enough, you will gradually improve your ability, become good at it, and able to completely master or a genius at it, any Skill at all. In other words, every one is inbued with unlimited intelligence cranial dexterity, and under the right enabling environment, the brain or mind is naturally malleable enough to exponentially increase in intelligence or stagnate. I made this similar argument earlier in the week in another thread, that our natural habitats in subsahara Africa, with our tropical vegetation and age old cultural norms had always been impediments to the growth and nurturing of Natural Curiosity and Intellectualism, and hence, our shortcomings in literary works, architecture and scientific achievements. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by plaetton: 1:14pm On May 21, 2017*. Modified: 3:23pm On May 21, 2017 |
PastorAIO:Copyright granted, good ol sire. ![]() |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Deicide: 1:22pm On May 21, 2017 |
plaetton:you guys are not getting me yes everyone is equipped with unlimited intelligence am not arguing that my point is the amount of time it would take Mr. A to understand something Mr. B might take just a tiny seconds to understand it.That's the intelligence am talking about, That is not something you practice and get perfect in. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by plaetton: 2:08pm On May 21, 2017*. Modified: 2:47pm On May 21, 2017 |
Deicide:Let me give you an example. Math tests, standard math tests are usually used to test or measure intelligence. People good in math are usually labeled "intelligent' , while people who are very poor in math are usually labeled dumb or OLODO(apologies to Deepsight). Now, as a result , many potentially bright young people give up on themselves and future possibilities very early in their youth because of their poor math skills. Using myself as an example, I realized late in secondary school that poor math teachers were the main problems associated with math phobia. I needed math in my career choice, so I motivated myself to conquer the phobia and devote my time to embrace math. After much much practice, I noticed that my brain/ mind began to organize numbers in my own custom unique patterns, and I began to be able to do complex calculations and math problems with greater ease over time,.a skill l still retain. To put this in biological context, we have the two hemispheres of the brain, the instinctive and the logical, always fighting for supremacy. The instinctive part is the older, more primitive , rigid, very short focused, more animalistic part of the brain that was very useful in the earlier stages of our evolution, when we solely relied on instincts and primitive impulses for our very survival. This instinctive side always wants to call the shots and have its way. In the side, we have the more recently evolved logical , rational part of the brain that is constantly challenging the status quo. This part of the brain also perceives in numbers and spatial terms. In summary, with practice, the logical and rational part of the brain can overshadow the instinctive, primitive part of brain , thereby increasing logical reasoning ability, rationality , clarity and a simplified way of dealing with complex issues. This dovetails with the thrust of the OP and the scientific conclusions quoted : that religion is part of the primitive instincts, and that a a breakaway from instinctive primitive behavior is an improvement in intelligence. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Deicide: 2:29pm On May 21, 2017 |
plaetton:But even with this poor Maths teachers people still pass right? The maths teacher asks a question and people still answer right but wait there is a guy at the back who seems not to be getting anything from what the teacher is saying. that's what am talking about of course this guy can improve his maths skills like me, for example, i would not understand some topic except you break it down very well for me or use real world examples to explain. so the point would be why do those people understand the poor maths teacher and the guy at the backs is finding it hard to understand? |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by plaetton: 2:46pm On May 21, 2017 |
Deicide:Aside genetic dispositions, it could very depend on how the COGNITIVE SKILLS were developed at infancy. We know that poor nutrition and hunger as well as malaria, for example, can negatively affect early COGNITIVE development, which would inevitably show in some learning disabilities or poor math skills. |
| Re: Atheists Are More Intelligent ‘because They Overcome The Instinct Of Religion' by Deicide: 2:49pm On May 21, 2017 |
plaetton:Am not talking about maths only in maths you only need to know it secrete then it becomes simple ![]() |
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