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LordAdam16:
You see, I was going to school you properly, but then decided against it, when I discovered you didn't even deserve it.

I said this



And you said this:



And my first reaction was like, is this guy okay? Do you even read or did you just start following politics and economics in 2015?

Now to my first statement:



These are the proofs:

Breaking News: Michael Aondoakaa Sacked By Acting President Jonathan -- http://www.osundefender.com/?p=7763
Nigeria's acting president asserts power by sacking cabinet -- https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/mar/17/nigeria-acting-president-sacks-cabinet

The second



These are the proofs:

Nigeria blasts America, says U.S has let Nigeria down in war against Boko Haram -- http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/170879-nigeria-blasts-america-says-u-s-has-let-nigeria-down-in-war-against-boko-haram.html
Nigeria to buy arms from Russia -- http://thenationonlineng.net/new/nigeria-to-buy-arms-from-russia/

The third



These are the proofs:

Why Nigeria did not sign EU/ECOWAS trade liberalisation agreement, by Aganga -- http://thenationonlineng.net/nigeria-sign-euecowas-trade-liberalisation-agreement-aganga/
Nigeria clarifies reasons for not endorsing EU-ECOWAS EPA -- https://www.ictsd.org/bridges-news/bridges-africa/news/nigeria-clarifies-reasons-for-not-endorsing-eu-ecowas-epa
http://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/western-africa/2014/04/01/nigeria-rejects-eu-partnership/ -- http://www.cnbcafrica.com/news/western-africa/2014/04/01/nigeria-rejects-eu-partnership/

You see, I typically do not respond to people who prove to be heavily uninformed and unable to even inform themselves when given the chance.

I mean someone who is comparing Lee Kuan Yew who was a dictator and had unlimited freedom to do whatever he liked including suppressing free press and the opposition with GEJ would ruled in a democracy.

I mean you're trying to compare the corruption under Fashola whose oversaw far less money than GEJ did yet still managed to spend N139m to construct boreholes -- http://dailypost.ng/2015/08/24/fashola-spent-n139m-on-two-boreholes-lagos-state-government/ and spent N78m to design a website -- http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/188040-outrage-over-fasholas-spending-of-n78million-lagos-funds-on-own-website.html.

Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously right now?

And it is on this NL that we analyzed Fashola's thievery versus the corruption in GEJ's government.

While the Fg spent 260 million per mega watt fashola spent 400 million per MW -- https://www.nairaland.com/1474680/gov-fashola-spends-n400-million.

And we all know if a vindictive PDP governor was ruling Lagos now, more corrupt sh*t would come to light.

And you are talking about a $2.1b scandal that actually was a sum total of all NSA funds for all of Dasuki's tenure and were only less than N2b has been recovered. Really, someone stole N350b and only N2b was recovered and you call yourself intelligent. And let's not forget, the FG is too scared to give the man an open trial.

And you're talking about a Malabu trial that hasn't ended yet.

And you want to talk about Soludo that entered CBN as a well-off person but came out stupendously richer. Saying Soludo is not very corrupt is like saying Atiku is a saint.

And let's not start about el-Rufai that no one trusts with money. Including OBJ. I mean for a thief like OBJ not to trust el-Rufai with money, it tells a lot doesn't it.

And you say, you prefer SLS to el-Rufai. SLS that wasted N4b as an Emir. Someone who has a reputation for being financially reckless in the finance industry.

But yet in your pea-sized brain you want to compare these thieves waiting for their opportunity to GEJ that had already being in charge of over $200b of oil revenue alone in 5 years. And yet he didn't build or buy any property outside Nigeria.

I said you were smart. I take that back.

I'm not even going to delve into the other bunch of trash you wrote, because someone who is obviously uninformed and unintelligent like yourself can't be taken seriously.

You've lost the little credibility you had.

I mean, how can you say NEPA was botched under GEJ, but he ended up privatizing the distribution and generation part of PHCN to the DISCOS and GENCOS respectively.

You are utterly disappointing.

Stick to analyzing technical issues. That is your strength. Don't make a fool of yourself trying to run in a field when you can't crawl in same field.

*drops mic*

-Lord

LordAdam16:
Chief, there is no president that would have been able to transform Nigeria in 6 years, especially a country so divided across several lines. No president.

And saying that the Presidency shouldn't be about zone, that is the ideal. We are talking about reality. The reality is that the presidency is about zoning in Nigeria.

Jonathan made mistakes, but saying he did not have the quality to rule Nigeria for 10 years in untrue.

Two things cost him the presidency in 2015. Tinubu was offered VP position by the North and that derailed his support in the SW and the Northern saboteurs in his fold worked against him especially in the North Central.

None of these things were entirely his fault. He had already offered Tinubu all that a regional leader would ever want in 2011 with commitment to do more in 2015. He did well for the North and Northern elites during his tenure.

That is why the fact that he is a Southern minority native is very important. If he was a Northerner, 2015 would have been a walk in the park. Regardless of whether he auctions Nigeria on eBay or if Boko Haram killed 100,000 people.

Buhari is a certified failure, but if he was healthier, he would have ruled for 8 straight years with issues, whether he made himself CBN governor and Fulani Herdsmen kill 1 million people.

This is the Nigeria you and I live in. This is the reality we wake up to every morning.

-Lord

romme2u:
bros u murdered that guy and took away the little credibility he had.

u get strength to dig up that US and EU palaver where jona threaten to close Nigerian border if any ECOWAS country signed that deal. u forgot the gay stuff obama tried to push down jona's throat.

reason i don't joined issues with these guys because of their bias and myopic stance. they forgot history and gloss over stuffs just to present their strong and holy than thou attitude.

omohayek:
Really? Or could it be that I simply don't share your blinders with regard to GEJ and the PDP?


And my point is that trying to be all things to all men is the exact opposite of leadership.


This is utterly ridiculous! Where have any of these 3 men overseen gigantic scandals like Dasukigate or Malabu Oil?


Which is why he reversed already signed privatization contracts, setting Nigeria's international reputation and economy back tremendously? You clearly have a different definition of "rule of law" than any I'm used to.


This is just the oil mentality of the past 3 decades talking. You should look up some comparative statistics on taxation some time, and you'll see that Nigerian taxation is extremely low, far lower than is optimal for development. The reason why so few Nigerians care so little about policies and track records, focusing all their attention on candidates tribes and religions instead, is because they see the government merely as a source of "free" goodies to be shared out by tribal champions to their followers. A government that doesn't depend on citizens taxes doesn't have to care too much how they feel about its priorities, as long as it can keep the military and police happy.


Yes, because Lee Kuan Yew was a people person who avoided quarrels, right? Sometimes a man who is willing to fight for what he knows is right is what is needed.


And who exactly nominated him? Perhaps you should have read more carefully what I wrote before responding. To repeat, "a northerner who has El-Rufai's brains and administrative skills, but without the ethnocentrism". I would actually have preferred SLS as a northern candidate, but becoming Emir of Kano has taken him out of the running.


This is simply fact-free conjecture on your part, and a nonsensical one at that. None of the men I've mentioned have the long track record of corruption and incompetence of an Ibori protoge like GEJ. Your blind partisanship has robbed you of all objectivity.


Again, more nonsense. Have you forgotten that the botched privatization of NEPA took place under your hero? Do you know what property rights and judicial independence imply in terms of what any minister can possibly do? And how exactly would "super-Barth" have gotten around Buhari's insistence on pegging the Naira, while denying the DISCOs the freedom to freely adjust the rates they charge? All I see here is more partisan rhetoric divorced from an understanding of the economic and political realities of the power sector.


Here you have half a point, but your partisan zeal blinds you to the fact that Buhari's ministers are only going to be able to do what he allows them to do, which is why we saw more positive movement during the 50 days Buhari was abroad than during the preceding 18 months.


Again, more partisan hot air. Has it occurred to you that they are constrained by what their boss (Buhari) is willing to hear? Since when has Buhari ever been a friend of any market-oriented policies? Why exactly do you think most major policy initiatives seem to happen precisely when he's off in London getting treatment?


It has everything to do with being weak. You clearly don't appreciate that leadership is about leading, which means going out and making a positive case for what you believe, even at the cost of risking immediate disapproval. Try reading a political biography of Abraham Lincoln or Winston Churchill sometime, to get an appreciation for what that really means: real leaders can call on their followers to make tremendous sacrifices for the future, but to sell such a message, they have to possess a credibility that GEJ lacked, due to the insane amounts of brazen corruption he tolerated.


Where did you get this 1970s "anti imperialist" nonsense from?


Funny how you admit he privatized power, but fail to acknowledge that his selling off the assets to under-capitalized domestic firms had anything to do with the sector's current difficulties. And as for the TSA and "whistle blowing" programs you claim GEJ would have passed, wasn't 6 years enough to "work out the kinks"? Or perhaps "Fortunato" was too worried about getting his share of OPL 245 to want such programs getting in the way?


He is called "weak" because "weak" is exactly what he was, too weak-willed to rein in corrupt subordinates like Dasuki, Obanikoro, Diezani and so many others, and too weak in willpower to resist participating in ripoffs like the Malabu Oil scam.



And here you descend into the lowest form of tribalism and conspiracy theorizing. Are you counting amongst your "3 regions" the same SW that voted for GEJ in 2011, and from which came his loudest supporters when northern politicians were insisting he step down rather than run for re-election? Is that the same region which still gave GEJ 45% of its votes despite the numerous corruption scandals and the unchecked spread of Boko Haram?

You really should be ashamed of yourself for descending to such depths of rank tribalism. That's the only explanation for talking about "regions" supposedly "vowing" to "frustrate" a government, as if 30 or 40 million people all got together in secret somewhere to plot against your faultless hero. That you can't even conceive of a politician winning or losing support on the basis of his track record says a great deal about the limitations of your thinking, so oriented is it to tribalistic talk of "regions" and whatnot.


You'd make a fine spin doctor in Donald Trump's team, with all your talk of "loyalists", as if political appointees don't hold a primary duty to the Nigerian electorate before any particular politician. Again, this just shows how blinkered your mindset is by Nigeria's tribalistic, "national cake" sharing mentality, according to which principles count for nothing, while "loyalty" counts for everything, even when it is to an incompetent crook who just happens to be "our kinsman" or "our son".


Rubbish, rubbish and again rubbish! Who are you to tell me or anyone else what I'm to do "in my life"? Who appointed you chief arbiter? And what's this nonsense about "every government in Nigeria is corrupt including the present one", other than an attempt at pretending that since corruption can never be completely eliminated it ought to be overlooked?

All you've spewed here is a pastiche of apologetic nonsense intended to cover your blind support for rank incompetence and thievery, and it's as transparent as day that you're doing so because you see GEJ as one of "your own", to be defended to the death purely on the basis of tribe alone, otherwise, you wouldn't keep bringing up that nonsense about his being a "minority civilian president", as if that excused overseeing an orgy of thieving even as an insurgency was spreading like wildfire in the north-east.

The unfortunate thing is that I nearly mistook you for one of the few intelligent and reasonably objective commenters on Nairaland, but in blindly defending a regime that virtually all international observers - including the NYT, the FT, the Economist, Transparency International, the UK government, and now, the Italian legal system - damned for its festering corruption, you've disabused me of any illusions I might have had about you.

Jolar101:
Who will monitoring these orders?

Are CCTVs working in ports/airports

Nigeria government good at giving orders, when done with reading those orders on papers, they all straight to slumber/sleeping.

Osibanjo signed orders, what next?

A country where government officials will sent their subordinates to streets for bribing will have balls to implementing these orders?

LordAdam16:
Don't mind them.

I ready to disgrace them one after the other, until they abandon their obsession with GEJ.

The man lost, left things peacefully, and is resting. They'd still be using his name to score cheap populist points.

-Lord

linuxuser:
Well like I said previously, I agree to some extent with some of your points, but I did not agree that the zoning was jettisoned but rather it was Jonathan that tried to play smart and he was outdone by people that are smarter than him. Six years was enough for Jonathan to effectively carry out any change that he deems fit. He does not need 10 years and never got it. Jonathan may be a good man but he does not have the quality of a president to lead Nigeria for 10 years that is simply the truth. That he is from the minority is completely irrelevant. The Presidency should not be able my zone or your zone but rather it should be on the quality and ability of the person concerned.

Look at Nigeria now in the hand of the dullard of Daura. He only wanted at all cost to carry out vengeance/vendettas and that is why Nigeria has not moved forward in the last 2 years. His incompetence is even worse than that of Jonathan but there you have him. His supporters would want him to rule from the grave because they are his supporters. None of them thinks about Nigeria collectively. The Daura President was there in 1984 or thereabout and inflicted the worst economic policy on Nigerians. History is repeating its self now. Nigerians can no longer eat three meals now. We have been drawn back by Buhari's cluelessness and bigotry.

LordAdam16:
Exactly. Omohayek is intelligent in the technical aspects of how to get Nigeria back on track, but very myopic on the personnel side of things.

Nigeria can never have an all-round President that satisfies all the whims. It is impossible.

Fashola, Soludo, and El-Rufai are not better than Yar'Adua or GEJ.

All 3 of these younger "bright" minds he mentioned are excessively more corrupt than GEJ both individually and collectively.

Yar'Adua was a Marxist but had the most respect for the rule of law of all Nigerian leaders post-1999.

GEJ was the first Southern minority leader in the history of Nigeria and he knew if he wanted to maintain any iota of legacy, he didn't have to be act like a strong military man putting enemies in the gallows. It was the smart thing to do but it wasn't even enough.

Fashola, Soludo, and el-Rufai would perform in their own way, but they'd also bring lots of baggage.

Fashola would tax Nigerians to the high heavens and make Buhari's pummeling sound like child's play.

Soludo doesn't know how to manage people and he'd fight with everybody.

el-Rufai may likely lead Nigeria to a civil war. All of them would be doubly corrupt than any Nigerian Leader in recent history.

Buhari should never have become President, that much is certain. But now that he is president, let us not pretend that he is the only one at fault. He increased Amaechi's Ministry allocation by 1000% compared to what GEJ gave the Ministry, and Amaechi squandered it calling completion of a 80%-completed project (he himself said it this week) an achievement.

Fashola's rating is a tad below average, for all the freedom, responsibility, and money given him. If GEJ had given Barth the same level of freedom and backing as Buhari has given Fashola, Barth would outperform Fashola convincingly.

Let's not even talk about Osinbajo and Adeosun who were in charge of the economy and took 18 months to put together a fiscal plan. 18 MONTHS!!!

Compare these so-called super ministers to ministers like Mohammed and Ibe and it becomes apparent that they have ZERO excuses.

You can't make hard line economic decisions without holding the polity in your grip comfortably. If Osinbajo had removed subsidy there would have been more protests than happened when Buhari removed subsidy. It has nothing to do with being weak, it's all about the mindset of the polity.

GEJ sacked the Attorney General and disbanded the cabinet to remove all Yar'Adua loyalists days after he was made Acting President while Yar'Adua was still alive. GEJ looked America in the eye and told them to Bleep off when they wouldn't provide weapons. He looked EU in the eye and told them to lick his backside when they brought their imperialist economic plan. He embraced China when the West was blowing hot. He privatized power despite the opposition. He implemented BVN and IPPPS despite the opposition from the polity. If he had worked out the kinks of the TSA and Whistle Blowing programmes in time, he would have implemented them.

Yet despite all of this, he is called a weak person. Someone who sacked the House of Representatives and cowed the legislature, something Buhari wouldn't dare do. Someone who disregarded the Northern Leaders and the Sultan to impose emergency rule in Northern states.

I don't know what you guys wanted from the man. 3 regions had already vowed to frustrate his government, 1 region was crying about marginalization, 2 others said he wasn't doing enough. There was evidence of complicity from people in his government, the military, and the polity in the rise of Boko Haram, should he have become a dictator like Erdogan, before he'd have been termed strong.

Or should he have placed his few core loyalists in a sea of open and hidden disloyalists on the chopping block just to please a populace that didn't see beyond their nose when he wanted to remove subsidy or the same disloyalists?

Omohayek can call GEJ's government corrupt, every government in Nigeria is corrupt including the present one, but never in his life should he call him weak and incompetent. That is completely untrue. For a minority civilian president, he was phenomenal.

-Lord

Dee60:
You are right on this aspect - There is no single Nigerian that can be a 'perfect' president - They will all come with their flaws. Its high time we come to terms that we have problems with the followership, like we have with leadership. Travel on the streets of Lagos or Abuja or PH and see how self-centred our country men are. In a society where people worship self you should not suddenly expect to have a 'messiah' president. The orientation is warped. Like followers like leaders! OBJ came, saw and was conquered, so did GEJ. They may have had their good intentions but I really think Nigeria is tough to govern because the people are so fixated on themselves!

bounty007:
Osibanjo media centres.. unleashed.

i said it.. if bubu step out..this guys go paint naija eldorado in two weeks..

i no lie..
afonjas are easily predictable.

pray for bubu..

he is sick, just like every human.

an not yet incapacitated..

so why should he resign?

omohayek:
[1] Buhari's aversion to privatization shackles what can be done with the NPA, which would be better off in the hands of private international operators, just as the airports would be much better run if sold to private companies like the ones running London's Heathrow, Gatwick and Standsted airports.
[2] Buhari's refusal to allow the Naira to float has severely crippled the inflow of foreign investment, which is badly needed as the $1 billion that was allocated to Fashola's ministry for all of Nigeria is less than what was spent on a single train terminal in London, or half the amount spent on a single airport in Japan's Kansai region. Nigeria needs spending on the order of $40-50 billion just to make up its infrastructure deficit, yet people expect Fashola to perform miracles with the little he's given?


Oh, is it Buhari's "trust" and "respect" for "competence" and "integrity" that made him ignore Ibe Kachikwu's repeated advice to deregulate the price of fuel, leading to needless long queues everywhere, or Kachikwu's suggestion to sell off the refineries, rather than wasting more money on "turn around" maintenance that never achieves anything?


On the contrary, these comments of yours are the ones that are revealing, as they show you to be just another tribalistic Nigerian incapable of the slightest objectivity. You have to be blind to see me blame Obasanjo for foisting weak leaders on Nigeria in an effort to continue pulling the strings in secret, and consider that "glowing": anybody who can see something positive in accusing Obasanjo of wrecking Nigeria's future for his own selfish purposes is the sort of addled tribalist who would happily insist that 2+2=5 if it suited his ethnocentric biases.

As for your claim that there's something "baseless" about calling El-Rufai an ethnocentrist, you must live in a different universe from mine, one where the man never openly said on Twitter the following:

https://twitter.com/elrufai/status/224577000218689537

and who didn't later reward Fulani nomads for killing people in southern Kaduna by paying them off:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/12/weve-paid-fulani-stop-killings-southern-kaduna-el-rufai/

To a shameless tribal bigot like you, I doubt anything could ever count as an indictment of El-Rufai in your eyes.

LordAdam16:
Exactly. Omohayek is intelligent in the technical aspects of how to get Nigeria back on track, but very myopic on the personnel side of things.

Nigeria can never have an all-round President that satisfies all the whims. It is impossible.

Fashola, Soludo, and El-Rufai are not better than Yar'Adua or GEJ.

All 3 of these younger "bright" minds he mentioned are excessively more corrupt than GEJ both individually and collectively.

Yar'Adua was a Marxist but had the most respect for the rule of law of all Nigerian leaders post-1999.

GEJ was the first Southern minority leader in the history of Nigeria and he knew if he wanted to maintain any iota of legacy, he didn't have to be act like a strong military man putting enemies in the gallows. It was the smart thing to do but it wasn't even enough.

Fashola, Soludo, and el-Rufai would perform in their own way, but they'd also bring lots of baggage.

Fashola would tax Nigerians to the high heavens and make Buhari's pummeling sound like child's play.

Soludo doesn't know how to manage people and he'd fight with everybody.

el-Rufai may likely lead Nigeria to a civil war. All of them would be doubly corrupt than any Nigerian Leader in recent history.

Buhari should never have become President, that much is certain. But now that he is president, let us not pretend that he is the only one at fault. He increased Amaechi's Ministry allocation by 1000% compared to what GEJ gave the Ministry, and Amaechi squandered it calling completion of a 80%-completed project (he himself said it this week) an achievement.

Fashola's rating is a tad below average, for all the freedom, responsibility, and money given him. If GEJ had given Barth the same level of freedom and backing as Buhari has given Fashola, Barth would outperform Fashola convincingly.

Let's not even talk about Osinbajo and Adeosun who were in charge of the economy and took 18 months to put together a fiscal plan. 18 MONTHS!!!

Compare these so-called super ministers to ministers like Mohammed and Ibe and it becomes apparent that they have ZERO excuses.

You can't make hard line economic decisions without holding the polity in your grip comfortably. If Osinbajo had removed subsidy there would have been more protests than happened when Buhari removed subsidy. It has nothing to do with being weak, it's all about the mindset of the polity.

GEJ sacked the Attorney General and disbanded the cabinet to remove all Yar'Adua loyalists days after he was made Acting President while Yar'Adua was still alive. GEJ looked America in the eye and told them to Bleep off when they wouldn't provide weapons. He looked EU in the eye and told them to lick his backside when they brought their imperialist economic plan. He embraced China when the West was blowing hot. He privatized power despite the opposition. He implemented BVN and IPPPS despite the opposition from the polity. If he had worked out the kinks of the TSA and Whistle Blowing programmes in time, he would have implemented them.

Yet despite all of this, he is called a weak person. Someone who sacked the House of Representatives and cowed the legislature, something Buhari wouldn't dare do. Someone who disregarded the Northern Leaders and the Sultan to impose emergency rule in Northern states.

I don't know what you guys wanted from the man. 3 regions had already vowed to frustrate his government, 1 region was crying about marginalization, 2 others said he wasn't doing enough. There was evidence of complicity from people in his government, the military, and the polity in the rise of Boko Haram, should he have become a dictator like Erdogan, before he'd have been termed strong.

Or should he have placed his few core loyalists in a sea of open and hidden disloyalists on the chopping block just to please a populace that didn't see beyond their nose when he wanted to remove subsidy or the same disloyalists?

Omohayek can call GEJ's government corrupt, every government in Nigeria is corrupt including the present one, but never in his life should he call him weak and incompetent. That is completely untrue. For a minority civilian president, he was phenomenal.

-Lord

Martins301:
I was enjoying your post till I got to the last 5 paragraphs. With all due respect sir, GEJ was an abysmal failure. He was a weakling who was too afraid to make tough decisions that could help the masses. Instead, He was more concerned with lining the pockets of his loyalists who constitute less than 0.5% of Nigeria's population.


Believe it or not, if Yar Adua or Buhari had/have the same opportunities (age, good health, high oil price, etc) that GEJ and OBJ had, they would surpass the achievements of the latter duo.

DelGardo:
I don't really have the space to go through your response in the manner it yearns, however I will quickly address some of your points.

We have privatised NEPA. Has that worked any magic? You mention Heathrow but you forget that NHS is still run buy the govt while health insurance in Nigeria is privatised. We have privately run companies that can't pay salaries nor their debts e.g Aero and Arik. So privatising is not a magic wand. Any president in a developing country that dives into full capitalist logic is stupid like Jonathan.

Egypt copied the "floating" template that you suggested. I encourage you to compare inflation (Egypt 31%; Nig 17%), and FDI between Nigeria and Egypt before you confuse people further.

You argue that Buhari does not favour free market and privatising. How about the planed concession of narrow gauge rail lines to GE? How come he hasn't cancelled the meaningless privatisation of the power sector? The real problem is that privatisation experience in Nigeria has always fallen short of expectations due to narrow interests, and any serious leader will be careful with that packaged as the almighty formula.

Basically what you put up there as proof of your assertions lack robust analysis of the root causes while you have managed to impose your very short sighted opinion - laced this with a large dose of bias - as fact.

So that statement is part of your evidence to malign El-Rufai. As an Igbo man I will say to anyone who sets out to kill Igbo people that there will be a reckoning. Does that make me a tribalist? Even after he clarified that he paid the injured parties to compensate them for loss of their cattle in order to allow peace reign; you are still part of the angry and adamant bunch castigating the action. When millitants were paid for peace to reign in the ND it was condemned by many (me too), and in fact one can condemn paying off agitators of any kind, but it will be unfair to term that approach ethnocentric or focus more on the act than on the intended outcomes.

Dude, you are clearly intelligent and engaging but your views on these issues are extreme and your language too colourful.

omohayek:
Really? Or could it be that I simply don't share your blinders with regard to GEJ and the PDP?


And my point is that trying to be all things to all men is the exact opposite of leadership.


This is utterly ridiculous! Where have any of these 3 men overseen gigantic scandals like Dasukigate or Malabu Oil?


Which is why he reversed already signed privatization contracts, setting Nigeria's international reputation and economy back tremendously? You clearly have a different definition of "rule of law" than any I'm used to.


This is just the oil mentality of the past 3 decades talking. You should look up some comparative statistics on taxation some time, and you'll see that Nigerian taxation is extremely low, far lower than is optimal for development. The reason why so few Nigerians care so little about policies and track records, focusing all their attention on candidates tribes and religions instead, is because they see the government merely as a source of "free" goodies to be shared out by tribal champions to their followers. A government that doesn't depend on citizens taxes doesn't have to care too much how they feel about its priorities, as long as it can keep the military and police happy.


Yes, because Lee Kuan Yew was a people person who avoided quarrels, right? Sometimes a man who is willing to fight for what he knows is right is what is needed.


And who exactly nominated him? Perhaps you should have read more carefully what I wrote before responding. To repeat, "a northerner who has El-Rufai's brains and administrative skills, but without the ethnocentrism". I would actually have preferred SLS as a northern candidate, but becoming Emir of Kano has taken him out of the running.


This is simply fact-free conjecture on your part, and a nonsensical one at that. None of the men I've mentioned have the long track record of corruption and incompetence of an Ibori protoge like GEJ. Your blind partisanship has robbed you of all objectivity.


Again, more nonsense. Have you forgotten that the botched privatization of NEPA took place under your hero? Do you know what property rights and judicial independence imply in terms of what any minister can possibly do? And how exactly would "super-Barth" have gotten around Buhari's insistence on pegging the Naira, while denying the DISCOs the freedom to freely adjust the rates they charge? All I see here is more partisan rhetoric divorced from an understanding of the economic and political realities of the power sector.


Here you have half a point, but your partisan zeal blinds you to the fact that Buhari's ministers are only going to be able to do what he allows them to do, which is why we saw more positive movement during the 50 days Buhari was abroad than during the preceding 18 months.


Again, more partisan hot air. Has it occurred to you that they are constrained by what their boss (Buhari) is willing to hear? Since when has Buhari ever been a friend of any market-oriented policies? Why exactly do you think most major policy initiatives seem to happen precisely when he's off in London getting treatment?


It has everything to do with being weak. You clearly don't appreciate that leadership is about leading, which means going out and making a positive case for what you believe, even at the cost of risking immediate disapproval. Try reading a political biography of Abraham Lincoln or Winston Churchill sometime, to get an appreciation for what that really means: real leaders can call on their followers to make tremendous sacrifices for the future, but to sell such a message, they have to possess a credibility that GEJ lacked, due to the insane amounts of brazen corruption he tolerated.


Where did you get this 1970s "anti imperialist" nonsense from?


Funny how you admit he privatized power, but fail to acknowledge that his selling off the assets to under-capitalized domestic firms had anything to do with the sector's current difficulties. And as for the TSA and "whistle blowing" programs you claim GEJ would have passed, wasn't 6 years enough to "work out the kinks"? Or perhaps "Fortunato" was too worried about getting his share of OPL 245 to want such programs getting in the way?


He is called "weak" because "weak" is exactly what he was, too weak-willed to rein in corrupt subordinates like Dasuki, Obanikoro, Diezani and so many others, and too weak in willpower to resist participating in ripoffs like the Malabu Oil scam.



And here you descend into the lowest form of tribalism and conspiracy theorizing. Are you counting amongst your "3 regions" the same SW that voted for GEJ in 2011, and from which came his loudest supporters when northern politicians were insisting he step down rather than run for re-election? Is that the same region which still gave GEJ 45% of its votes despite the numerous corruption scandals and the unchecked spread of Boko Haram?

You really should be ashamed of yourself for descending to such depths of rank tribalism. That's the only explanation for talking about "regions" supposedly "vowing" to "frustrate" a government, as if 30 or 40 million people all got together in secret somewhere to plot against your faultless hero. That you can't even conceive of a politician winning or losing support on the basis of his track record says a great deal about the limitations of your thinking, so oriented is it to tribalistic talk of "regions" and whatnot.


You'd make a fine spin doctor in Donald Trump's team, with all your talk of "loyalists", as if political appointees don't hold a primary duty to the Nigerian electorate before any particular politician. Again, this just shows how blinkered your mindset is by Nigeria's tribalistic, "national cake" sharing mentality, according to which principles count for nothing, while "loyalty" counts for everything, even when it is to an incompetent crook who just happens to be "our kinsman" or "our son".


Rubbish, rubbish and again rubbish! Who are you to tell me or anyone else what I'm to do "in my life"? Who appointed you chief arbiter? And what's this nonsense about "every government in Nigeria is corrupt including the present one", other than an attempt at pretending that since corruption can never be completely eliminated it ought to be overlooked?

All you've spewed here is a pastiche of apologetic nonsense intended to cover your blind support for rank incompetence and thievery, and it's as transparent as day that you're doing so because you see GEJ as one of "your own", to be defended to the death purely on the basis of tribe alone, otherwise, you wouldn't keep bringing up that nonsense about his being a "minority civilian president", as if that excused overseeing an orgy of thieving even as an insurgency was spreading like wildfire in the north-east.

The unfortunate thing is that I nearly mistook you for one of the few intelligent and reasonably objective commenters on Nairaland, but in blindly defending a regime that virtually all international observers - including the NYT, the FT, the Economist, Transparency International, the UK government, and now, the Italian legal system - damned for its festering corruption, you've disabused me of any illusions I might have had about you.

LordAdam16:
Omohayek please school this pauper correctly.

I was going to as it is I'm as knowledgeable as it gets on the issues you raised here, but I do not doubt for a second that Omohayek would set your loose canon of a brain straight. This after all is his playground--technical issues.

My apologies in advance for the pummeling you are about to receive.

-Lord

LordAdam16:
What nonsense.

If you read all five paragraphs and still say GEJ is a weakling, you have no use of your brain. Simply exchange it for akara balls.

So removing fuel subsidy was not a tough decision. Privatizing PHCN was not a tough decision. Implementing BVN and IPPPS was not a tough decision. Allowing free and fair elections even if it meant losing PDP states was not a tough decision. The joke is on you mister.

Who doesn't line the pockets of loyalists in Nigeria? The two saints you called Yar'Adua and Buhari did and are doing exactly the same. You want to compare GEJ and OBJ to Yar'Adua and Buhari? Is that supposed to be a joke? Are you drunk?

Better stay off my mention if you don't want to feel sorry for yourself. You can say this nonsense when you are with your illiterate beer parlor friends or on NL threads where your bigoted ilks gather, but you dare not say it to my face or you'd receive the bashing of your life.

Be warned and steer clear.

-Lord

So removing fuel subsidy was not a tough decision

Privatizing PHCN was not a tough decision.

Implementing BVN and IPPPS was not a tough decision.

Allowing free and fair elections even if it meant losing PDP states was not a tough decision.

DelGardo:
I have a feeling you think you are dealing with an airhead. Do me a solid and bring it on. I have been easy on him but this as far as it goes.

Next move will enjoy my full attention and it won't be so pleasant. Clown

Martins301:
I though you had brains but now I'm certain your skull is filled with just dusting powder. You are what I'd call a myopic shortsighted analyst with a moronic mindset. No wonder the other guy rubbished you and your useless claims.



I'm sure you're stupid enough to know that GEJ only removed subsidy partially. He had no balls to remove it 100% even when he knew that it was being used to defraud the government. The subsidy fraudsters were of course his cronies.

Buhari on the other hand removed subsidy completely and heaven did not fall. That is what making tough decisions mean in case you are too fücked up in the head to know.


If you're not as stupid as your moronic hero, you'll realize that the whole process of unbundling PHCN then was a sham. Yes, GEJ privatized PHCN, but 4 years after, what has been the effect of such decision? Abysmal power generation, high electricity tariff, and extortion of consumers by the DISCOS who still operate estimated billings and have refused provide prepaid meters to consumers cos they know it will limit their fraud.

It would have been a tough decision if GEJ had unbundled PHCN and handed over the assets to it's new owmers based purely on merit, national interest, technical and managerial expertise and possession of a solid capital base for investing in our power sector. But alas, your dumb weak hero made that decision based mostly on political expediency and so PHCN ended up in the hands of cronies and political allies who have no fvcking idea on how to solve our power problem but have unlimited ideas of how they can recover 50 times the meagre investment they made initially.

Emeka Offor, Abdulsalam Abubakar, Ibrahim Babangida and Tinubu are some of those who have no IQ on how to solve our power sector problems but have vested interest in a lot of the DISCOS and GENCOS.

Hope you're not too stewpid to admit that your hero was a spinless slowpoke?



If you classify implementation of BVN and IPPPS as tough decisions then you are monolithic zombie. How many Nigerians kicked against BVN and IPPPS?



Was Ekiti election free and fair? Have you forgotten about Ekitigate so quickly or are you just playing the dumb ostrich?

If you're talking about 2015 elections, please get it into your fvcked up skull that PDP and GEJ were rejected because of what they stood for (crass incompetence and unbridled looting).


If you like waste your time to quote me to type 10 pages of horseshit. I won't dignify you with any response cos your brain is full of emptiness.

Martins301:
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I though you had brains but now I'm certain your skull is filled with just dusting powder. You are what I'd call a myopic shortsighted analyst with a moronic mindset. No wonder the other guy rubbished you and your useless claims.



I'm sure you're stupid enough to know that GEJ only removed subsidy partially. He had no balls to remove it 100% even when he knew that it was being used to defraud the government. The subsidy fraudsters were of course his cronies.

Buhari on the other hand removed subsidy completely and heaven did not fall. That is what making tough decisions mean in case you are too fücked up in the head to know.


If you're not as stupid as your moronic hero, you'll realize that the whole process of unbundling PHCN then was a sham. Yes, GEJ privatized PHCN, but 4 years after, what has been the effect of such decision? Abysmal power generation, high electricity tariff, and extortion of consumers by the DISCOS who still operate estimated billings and have refused provide prepaid meters to consumers cos they know it will limit their fraud.

It would have been a tough decision if GEJ had unbundled PHCN and handed over the assets to it's new owmers based purely on merit, national interest, technical and managerial expertise and possession of a solid capital base for investing in our power sector. But alas, your dumb weak hero made that decision based mostly on political expediency and so PHCN ended up in the hands of cronies and political allies who have no fvcking idea on how to solve our power problem but have unlimited ideas of how they can recover 50 times the meagre investment they made initially.

Emeka Offor, Abdulsalam Abubakar, Ibrahim Babangida and Tinubu are some of those who have no IQ on how to solve our power sector problems but have vested interest in a lot of the DISCOS and GENCOS.

Hope you're not too stewpid to admit that your hero was a spinless slowpoke?



If you classify implementation of BVN and IPPPS as tough decisions then you are monolithic zombie. How many Nigerians kicked against BVN and IPPPS?



Was Ekiti election free and fair? Have you forgotten about Ekitigate so quickly or are you just playing the dumb ostrich?

If you're talking about 2015 elections, please get it into your fvcked up skull that PDP and GEJ were rejected because of what they stood for (crass incompetence and unbridled looting).


If you like waste your time to quote me to type 10 pages of horseshit. I won't dignify you with any response cos your brain is full of emptiness.[/s]

LordAdam16:
Really?

Why are you in a hurry to have your cred shattered on NL? Masochism much?!

I mean Omohayek with his many gaffes has dealt you a number already and I just took him to the cleaners. And you think I should take you on after opining that el-Rufai is not a bigot. In public, on NL... Are you f**king serious?

You say that sh*t and you think you are smarter than a chimp.

Wait on for Omohayek, he's done it once, he'd f*ck you over again. And if you still want me to finish things off after you've had your a$$ handed to you, I'll not refuse a gentleman's request.

-Lord

DelGardo:
So Soludo who your revered Omohayek thinks will be a perfect president is not a bigot? Same Soludo that supports Nnamdi Kalu's parochial pursuits in the name of Igbo emancipation? In case you don't know yet Kalu is also a sworn hater of any group not associated with Biafra. How then is Soludo less of a tribalist than El-Rufai except the fact that he is Igbo and Igbo's are "not" ethnocentric. Yeah right!

Let me be the one to break it to you, Sir: every Nigerian thinks his group first. So to that extent we are all ethnocentric. Meaning you should shove your NL validation of crass stupidity where the sun don't shine.

You can carry on with you NL d*ck measurement with whoever you please but that amounts to nothing if your world view is so narrow. To make matters worse you are a even wailer, which means that you are an intellectual midget.

romme2u:
i think it is best if you ignore them. APC propaganda machine in cahoot with the west have infected their brain with GEJitivitis, and bashing the man on every opportunity is the symptoms of their brain disorder.

Sadly they don't know that they are infected just like bots in a botnet attack

LordAdam16:
Exactly. Omohayek is intelligent in the technical aspects of how to get Nigeria back on track, but very myopic on the personnel side of things.

Nigeria can never have an all-round President that satisfies all the whims. It is impossible.

Fashola, Soludo, and El-Rufai are not better than Yar'Adua or GEJ.

All 3 of these younger "bright" minds he mentioned are excessively more corrupt than GEJ both individually and collectively.

Yar'Adua was a Marxist but had the most respect for the rule of law of all Nigerian leaders post-1999.

GEJ was the first Southern minority leader in the history of Nigeria and he knew if he wanted to maintain any iota of legacy, he didn't have to be act like a strong military man putting enemies in the gallows. It was the smart thing to do but it wasn't even enough.

Fashola, Soludo, and el-Rufai would perform in their own way, but they'd also bring lots of baggage.

Fashola would tax Nigerians to the high heavens and make Buhari's pummeling sound like child's play.

Soludo doesn't know how to manage people and he'd fight with everybody.

el-Rufai may likely lead Nigeria to a civil war. All of them would be doubly corrupt than any Nigerian Leader in recent history.

Buhari should never have become President, that much is certain. But now that he is president, let us not pretend that he is the only one at fault. He increased Amaechi's Ministry allocation by 1000% compared to what GEJ gave the Ministry, and Amaechi squandered it calling completion of a 80%-completed project (he himself said it this week) an achievement.

Fashola's rating is a tad below average, for all the freedom, responsibility, and money given him. If GEJ had given Barth the same level of freedom and backing as Buhari has given Fashola, Barth would outperform Fashola convincingly.

Let's not even talk about Osinbajo and Adeosun who were in charge of the economy and took 18 months to put together a fiscal plan. 18 MONTHS!!!

Compare these so-called super ministers to ministers like Mohammed and Ibe and it becomes apparent that they have ZERO excuses.

You can't make hard line economic decisions without holding the polity in your grip comfortably. If Osinbajo had removed subsidy there would have been more protests than happened when Buhari removed subsidy. It has nothing to do with being weak, it's all about the mindset of the polity.

GEJ sacked the Attorney General and disbanded the cabinet to remove all Yar'Adua loyalists days after he was made Acting President while Yar'Adua was still alive. GEJ looked America in the eye and told them to Bleep off when they wouldn't provide weapons. He looked EU in the eye and told them to lick his backside when they brought their imperialist economic plan. He embraced China when the West was blowing hot. He privatized power despite the opposition. He implemented BVN and IPPPS despite the opposition from the polity. If he had worked out the kinks of the TSA and Whistle Blowing programmes in time, he would have implemented them.

Yet despite all of this, he is called a weak person. Someone who sacked the House of Representatives and cowed the legislature, something Buhari wouldn't dare do. Someone who disregarded the Northern Leaders and the Sultan to impose emergency rule in Northern states.

I don't know what you guys wanted from the man. 3 regions had already vowed to frustrate his government, 1 region was crying about marginalization, 2 others said he wasn't doing enough. There was evidence of complicity from people in his government, the military, and the polity in the rise of Boko Haram, should he have become a dictator like Erdogan, before he'd have been termed strong.

Or should he have placed his few core loyalists in a sea of open and hidden disloyalists on the chopping block just to please a populace that didn't see beyond their nose when he wanted to remove subsidy or the same disloyalists?

Omohayek can call GEJ's government corrupt, every government in Nigeria is corrupt including the present one, but never in his life should he call him weak and incompetent. That is completely untrue. For a minority civilian president, he was phenomenal.

-Lord