₦airaland Forum

Ballmer:
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Igbos should define if it is preferable to have their son as service chiefs, build vital infrastructure, hold powerful positions, earn enormous contract etc that they want for their support in enthroning a govt and ensure the agreement is followed to the latter btw them and whoever they had such agreement with instead of disturbing the rest of the country with cries of marginalisation. The Igbos are not more marginalized than the NigerDelta that produce the bulk of the wealth of the nation. I doubt if they are more marginalized than the Yorubas and even the HausaFulani they cry are marginalizing them.

Real2020:
Yorubaas are the centerpiece of the problem of Nigeria. I cannot ignore them in relevant matter like this. The fact is Igbos by virtue of their strong abhorrence of evil and marginalization of any sort, will never, I repeat, will never condone of the federal governments allowing all SS and SE ports to be functional while denying Yorubas the rights to use their ports. This is how a typical Igbo man his...has zero tolerance for evil and marginalization even when done to his enemy.

Real2020:
What is funny is some Nigerians particularly yorubas think it's natural and okay for Lagos to have 2 seaports and largest functional international airport by design and for SE to have none. Some actually think Lagos has all these ports and airport by merit. When you try to to reason with them that why are Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri, Onne and Onitsha ports not as functional as Lagos ports, they come up with all manners of excuses but you tell that that Dangote is using Calabar seaport to import most of his goods into SE, and then they keep quiet.Lol! Same goes for the airport, why are Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna and Kano the only functional airports in the country for international direct flight services? The fact is if you go right now, I mean now, to Lagos and Abuja, count and interview those traveling to international destinations, I assure you over 50% are Igbos. Then why can't they travel directly from Enugu, Uyo, Calabar, Asaba or Port Harcourt? Same goes for their goods...all these companies Reno talked about in Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha import their goods via Lagos port, that's over 1000 kms drive and paying all kinds of customs fees and bribes on the way to finally make it to SE, and you tell me this is fair?

Yorubas...how will you people feel having to drive 1000kms to SE to fly and clear your goods? Not only do you do this one time only but a constant thing for the past 50 yrs? And you think it's ok? Yorubas....where are your conscience? Do you people have feelings at all? Do you have hearts? I commend Fayose and Fani but more yorubas need to come out and condemn this evil and wickedness!

Real2020:
Afonja...you can never reason with them even if you show them facts...never!

SnowJay92:
Lol, when a child has his kernel cracked by a benevolent spirit.

TeamSimple:
Why are you waiting for more yoruba's to help you cry your cry. What has igbos having a seaport got to do with the Yorubas Abeg.

Wasn't the former president of 6years closer to you people than the Yorubas? Why didn't you cry to him then, instead you wait for the Yorubas to help you in lobbying the government. He couldn't even provide you guys with the second Niger bridge he promised.

It seems no tribe can actually achieve a meaningful feet in Nigeria without the Yorubas. Hausa man want to win election, he will summon the Yorubas. South South GEJ wanted to be the president, had to lobby soyinka and obj. Nnamdi kanu was in prison for almost two years, he needed the efforts and supports of FFK and FaYoSe before being released.

Now ordinary seaports, you guys can't achieve on your own without calling out the South West. I wonder how easy it gonna be for you guys to get the Biafra you dream of without the Yoruba support then.

CRY YOUR CRY ABEG.

aribisala0:
See dem
After chest beating na begging

obailala:
I always like to view issues from the other perspective, hence I totally do not agree most times with general beliefs no matter how long it has been peddled. The Hausas hate Igbos so much and would kill even their own brother who as little as smiles at an Igbo man; that is not in doubt. But while there is a sort of Igbo marginalisation in existence, what we see today is majorly a thing of the mind and this paranoia is exactly what has kept the Igbo nation down for ages.

Firstly you claim policies were made against importation to strangle Igbo businesses, this is a very perfect example of the paranoid mentality which keeps ruining the minds of Igbos. Take a look the chart of Nigeria's foreign reserves below:
[img]http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/charts/nigeria-foreign-exchange-reserves@2x.png?s=nigeriaforexcres&v=201705041727u&d1=20140726&d2=20160826&type=column[/img]

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/foreign-exchange-reserves

From the chart above, you can see how rapidly Nigeria's reserves dropped when oil prices began dropping from mid-2014. Do you know what happens to an import dependent country when it runs out of reserves?... If you go study the Venezuelan situation, you will definitely not swallow the story that forex restrictions were done to punish anyone; only a paranoid person would study the Venezuelan situation and still return to say forex restrictions was strategy to target him.

I personally do not believe in the marginalisation theory which has been peddled since I was born; as a matter of fact, every single thing which the SE lacks today and which is termed marginalisation, every other zone in the country lacks them also. The only exceptions being Lagos (former FCT) and Abuja (current FCT). For the current administration, the only area I see a clear marginalisation is in terms of appointments, something which to me is totally useless when we consider how the numerous appointments did not help the SE zone in the last regime.

If you disagree with me, kindly point out the areas of marginalisation you know and I will explain my point.

louwie:
I agree with point 1, they are calculative

I agree with 3, politics is like that sometimes

but i do not agree with 2.

You do not understand, there is a bigger play here,

Ponder on this verifiable fact. "No comptroller general of customs has ever been of eastern extraction since the days of colonial govt till date"


ever asked why ? ? note: i do not have an answer myself.

Thank you.

Real2020:
Good point but your post is innocent...unaware of systematic marginalization of Igbos. Even if Igbo billionaires say to federal government we will use our money to build these ports in SS and airports in both regions, federal government will frustrate it. Because there is somebody in UK telling Hausa-Fulani how to keep Igbos marginalized because they see Igbos as their obstacle to the Nigeria enterprise.

valarinz:
Based on your frequent online activity, I believed you were angling towards building an online personality that will translate to a reasonable career path in the future. But for you to go this low? Take sides on tribal rants on nairaland, you're definitely nailing your coffin already.

No matter how u feel about that tribe you are sick and tired of, keep it to yourself, be professional, the Internet never forgets

Tnx

raker300:
A smart party that didn't get any vote from a region would try hard to integrate that particular region...but not the apc, they rather stew in their own misconceptions

Edit:

The apc and the pdp have shown they have the same agenda. the same hate that has lingered since after the biafran war is still in place.

IsaacChukwuemek:
Its part of Ibo culture to blame Yoruba for everything.

AworiLagosian:
You are an infantile person who can't put 2 plus 2 together simply because of your typical igbo man ego that is being massaged by reno's statement.

It is only people from that side that would believe that Nnewi has more industrial activity than Kano + Kaduna states.

What next? Orumba North LG has more industries than Oyo plus Ogun states?

I give up on you.

abescom:
The problem is igbo. You call yorubas your enemy when they do not support you, hate the hausas and then expect support.

You practicise politics of hatred everywhere you go. People are paranoid of you lot as you simply have not shown any reason why you should be trusted. Or what makes you think I will trust and support someone who calls me his enemy without any just and sensible reason.

And be fair, are you guys united? How many of you supported Orji's move to becoming president? Things will change for you lot when 1. You accept the fact that what happened during the biafra war is in the past. 2. No one is your enemy, everyone is merely fighting for themselves 3. You decide to unite to get the presidency and find way to win the support of others. Until then, forget it.

Real2020:
What is funny is some Nigerians particularly yorubas think it's natural and okay for Lagos to have 2 seaports and largest functional international airport by design and for SE to have none. Some actually think Lagos has all these ports and airport by merit. When you try to to reason with them that why are Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri, Onne and Onitsha ports not as functional as Lagos ports, they come up with all manners of excuses but you tell that that Dangote is using Calabar seaport to import most of his goods into SE, and then they keep quiet.Lol! Same goes for the airport, why are Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna and Kano the only functional airports in the country for international direct flight services? The fact is if you go right now, I mean now, to Lagos and Abuja, count and interview those traveling to international destinations, I assure you over 50% are Igbos. Then why can't they travel directly from Enugu, Uyo, Calabar, Asaba or Port Harcourt? Same goes for their goods...all these companies Reno talked about in Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha import their goods via Lagos port, that's over 1000 kms drive and paying all kinds of customs fees and bribes on the way to finally make it to SE, and you tell me this is fair?

Yorubas...how will you people feel having to drive 1000kms to SE to fly and clear your goods? Not only do you do this one time only but a constant thing for the past 50 yrs? And you think it's ok? Yorubas....where are your conscience? Do you people have feelings at all? Do you have hearts? I commend Fayose and Fani but more yorubas need to come out and condemn this evil and wickedness!

Bagehot:
Do you know why this comment is stupid? Cos both sea-ports and the airport in SW are in Lagos - the former from colonial masters, the latter from when Lagos was the country's capital. Going by your logic, Osun, Ekiti, Ogun and Ondo should be crying marginalization - they are afterall yoruba states with little to show for FG investment. I understand Stella Oduah transformed Enugu airport, and there is a second in PH. Both SW and SS have an airport each, so why blame yorubas?

Secondly, don't be asinine and think Igbos form a majority of folks travelling out by air, there are folks from 249 other ethnic groups as well.

Thirdly, I cant say for certain I know why only the ports in Lagos are working, but I have heard different reasons ranging from it being the deepest in Nigeria to insecurity in the SS, to even the fact that these ports are not economically viable. Going by the reason of economic viability, it probably makes a bit of sense - I mean if Tinapa FTZ was in Lagos, it would very likely be thriving. Going by your logic as well, the second port in Lagos in Ikorodu does not get much action either due to depth, or size, meaning there is something more to what makes the Apapa port so attractive. You talk about the ports outside Lagos not being viable, is it that they have been closed, or you want the government to force importers to route their goods through SE ports so as to make them 'viable'? Please help me to understand your perspective.

bestpunterever:
all what u have said here is a fact, in fact undisputed fact, but I want u answer this question, why did u guys not say all this During Jonathan era, the fact that u guys came up with all this after jonathan lost make it look like as hatred to buhari and osibanjo. Even Reno was among the immediate government and he never came up with this.

GoodMuyis:
You have A good Write up here.

The Igbos have so soon forgotten kpomo Cutting governor, who without FG intervention wanted to build Airport in his state, But our igbo brothers assumes it FG responsibility to do everything

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Real2020:
What is funny is some Nigerians particularly yorubas think it's natural and okay for Lagos to have 2 seaports and largest functional international airport by design and for SE to have none. Some actually think Lagos has all these ports and airport by merit. When you try to to reason with them that why are Port Harcourt, Calabar, Warri, Onne and Onitsha ports not as functional as Lagos ports, they come up with all manners of excuses but you tell that that Dangote is using Calabar seaport to import most of his goods into SE, and then they keep quiet.Lol! Same goes for the airport, why are Lagos, Abuja, Kaduna and Kano the only functional airports in the country for international direct flight services? The fact is if you go right now, I mean now, to Lagos and Abuja, count and interview those traveling to international destinations, I assure you over 50% are Igbos. Then why can't they travel directly from Enugu, Uyo, Calabar, Asaba or Port Harcourt? Same goes for their goods...all these companies Reno talked about in Nnewi, Aba and Onitsha import their goods via Lagos port, that's over 1000 kms drive and paying all kinds of customs fees and bribes on the way to finally make it to SE, and you tell me this is fair?

Yorubas...how will you people feel having to drive 1000kms to SE to fly and clear your goods? Not only do you do this one time only but a constant thing for the past 50 yrs? And you think it's ok? Yorubas....where are your conscience? Do you people have feelings at all? Do you have hearts? I commend Fayose and Fani but more yorubas need to come out and condemn this evil and wickedness!

Ballmer:
I will ignore the unverifiable figure peddled here but Igbo should stop allowing themselves to be ridiculed by folks that had the well with all to help their cause but did nothing when they can but instead chose to score some cheap political point when they have nothing to offer. It is sad that Igbos with all their sophistication can not take their destiny in the hands.

The SW is building three great infrastructural projects without a single support from the federal govt. All these project are initiated without any Yoruba being the president, VP, senate president, deputy senate president, speaker , deputy speaker or Holding the office of the SGF during commencement period of these projects which clearly shows that political appointment is no prerequisite to national or infrastructural development.

The SW at the moment is building a seaport, eko rail, lekki Atlantic. These projects will define the landscape of the region obviously for the beta in future to come. Omkri queried the marginalisation of Igbos but ignored Buhari did not only cancelled a rail project initiated by Jakande led Lagos govt but incurred several millions of debts on the state in the process yet you do not see the Yoruba lamenting Hausa Fulani or Igbo marginalising them.

One dare not think of the outcry Igbo will ridicule this country with should this happen to them. Omkri claim the east produce millions of shoes daily and queried why there is no airport in the east like they need the airport to ferry the produced shoes.Concerning Abia n Anambra being heaviest commercial traveller I will rather ignore this until a proven verifiable data to that effect is made available.

Igbo should fight for what is beneficial to them in every context they deem fit but should not allow sycophants like Omkri becloud their judgment while he caress their bruised ego to stay relevant. Omkri was a nobody before Jonathan and he will stay a nobody in the history of Nigeria. The Igbo on the other hand is an integral part of Nigeria and their grievance should be channelled to the appropriate authority. The Igbo had enduring alliances with the north it's time those alliances are put to use.

All the cry about marginalisation which i agree is there will not be solved with another cry of victimisation. Igbo should help themselves just like the SS and SW does at least till they have their freedom. Personally i believe Buhari does not owe the majority of the Igbo a thing even if they wail to heaven. The Igbo should henceforth define their desire each time they go into an alliance with any other ethnicity to produce the president.

Igbos should define if it is preferable to have their son as service chiefs, build vital infrastructure, hold powerful positions, earn enormous contract etc that they want for their support in enthroning a govt and ensure the agreement is followed to the latter btw them and whoever they had such agreement with instead of disturbing the rest of the country with cries of marginalisation. The Igbos are not more marginalized than the NigerDelta that produce the bulk of the wealth of the nation. I doubt if they are more marginalized than the Yorubas and even the HausaFulani they cry are marginalizing them.

Ballmer:
I will ignore the unverifiable figure peddled here but Igbo should stop allowing themselves to be ridiculed by folks that had the well with all to help their cause but did nothing when they can but instead chose to score some cheap political point when they have nothing to offer. It is sad that Igbos with all their sophistication can not take their destiny in the hands.

The SW is building three great infrastructural projects without a single support from the federal govt. All these project are initiated without any Yoruba being the president, VP, senate president, deputy senate president, speaker , deputy speaker or Holding the office of the SGF during commencement period of these projects which clearly shows that political appointment is no prerequisite to national or infrastructural development.

The SW at the moment is building a seaport, eko rail, lekki Atlantic. These projects will define the landscape of the region obviously for the beta in future to come. Omkri queried the marginalisation of Igbos but ignored Buhari did not only cancelled a rail project initiated by Jakande led Lagos govt but incurred several millions of debts on the state in the process yet you do not see the Yoruba lamenting Hausa Fulani or Igbo marginalising them.

One dare not think of the outcry Igbo will ridicule this country with should this happen to them. Omkri claim the east produce millions of shoes daily and queried why there is no airport in the east like they need the airport to ferry the produced shoes.Concerning Abia n Anambra being heaviest commercial traveller I will rather ignore this until a proven verifiable data to that effect is made available.

Igbo should fight for what is beneficial to them in every context they deem fit but should not allow sycophants like Omkri becloud their judgment while he caress their bruised ego to stay relevant. Omkri was a nobody before Jonathan and he will stay a nobody in the history of Nigeria. The Igbo on the other hand is an integral part of Nigeria and their grievance should be channelled to the appropriate authority. The Igbo had enduring alliances with the north it's time those alliances are put to use.

All the cry about marginalisation which i agree is there will not be solved with another cry of victimisation. Igbo should help themselves just like the SS and SW does at least till they have their freedom. Personally i believe Buhari does not owe the majority of the Igbo a thing even if they wail to heaven. The Igbo should henceforth define their desire each time they go into an alliance with any other ethnicity to produce the president.

Igbos should define if it is preferable to have their son as service chiefs, build vital infrastructure, hold powerful positions, earn enormous contract etc that they want for their support in enthroning a govt and ensure the agreement is followed to the latter btw them and whoever they had such agreement with instead of disturbing the rest of the country with cries of marginalisation. The Igbos are not more marginalized than the NigerDelta that produce the bulk of the wealth of the nation. I doubt if they are more marginalized than the Yorubas and even the HausaFulani they cry are marginalizing them.

wristbangle:
Thanks for the advice but the way you tailored it is not diplomatic. You don't need to harsh and emotional as well to make your point.

Careful how you table issue sir but I get your message clearly.

xcolanto:
I am not going to go too deep into this because if you cannot see a thing I cannot force you to see it. Marginalisation is a thing of feelings to some extent and if I feel that way you cannot see it but I can explain to you how I feel and why I feel that way. To you it might be of no consequence but to me it means a lot. What am I trying to say? You claim the lopsided appointments would be of no help to the SE but that's your point of view not that of the SE. It might be of no consequence but there is something called a sense of belonging which is needed in nation building. This the SE has been schemed out off on all fronts, be it projects, FG presence, appointments etc. This is not a good feeling and can stire up feelings of resentment, abandonment and neglect. This in all sense can therefore pass as marginalisation but not to you. The government has not scored well in this regard and it's unhealthy and outright wrong.

As for the manufacturing sector dominated by the SE, it's would have been wise If the APC lead government had provided incentives and palatives to quoshion the negative effects such a policy would have on a people who's livelihood and regional development depends on such a crucial sector that sustains the non oil revenue of Nigeria to a large extent. It wasn't up until some months ago was forex made available to that sector of which many still find it hard to access. In this regard many manufacturers have moved out of Nigeria to do business in boardering countries. Do have in mind that the government has not provided the needed environment for such companies to thrives in the first place, such as electricity, good roads, security etc.
However in sector as BDC dominated by the Hausa the government was quick to intervene, enriching their kinsmen to billions of dollars, a fact sanusi attested to. Also the petroleum sector dominated by the north was also earlier supported while other sectors where left to rot.

As I said its a feeling that cannot be ignored and am sure millions of people would agree with me on this one.

konfused:
To all and sundry who says Igbos are not marginalised, can you give one tangible reason for the anomaly that Reno pointed out.

It's very obvious, but due to the hatred they have for Igbos, they will say it doesn't matter.....

Sometimes I wonder what is it about the Igbos that makes every other tribe in Nigeria hate them.
When it comes to all ills associated with Nigeria, all other tribes re not exempted, so why the hate.

Name any crime associated with Nigeria, you will not fail to see an individual from every tribe that has been involved one way or the other.

So why always the IGBOS.

Ka Chineke nyere anyi aka.