Rossikki:
Yawwnnnn. The world has heard those boastful words before. Pride comes before a fall.

Rossikki:
China didn't go through any great intellectual awakening between 1970 and 2017. In the 1970s, China was just your typical developing country. Most people rode around in bicycles. They just enacted some protectionist economic policies, clamped down on corruption, and focused on manufacturing. Result? The China we see today. You people overthink this development thing. It's really not that complicated.

EvilUnityBeggars:


A house divided can't be great economically, politically, socially etc

Why did a Yoruba senator oppose the extension of the railway line to the Igbo heartland

Why did Senator Gbajamila oppose the relocation of oil companies headquarters back to ND area

Why are Northerners opposing restructuring

Why are Fulani herdsmen killing fellow countrymen



First thing seen in all great super power nations is Unity born out of love understanding and tolerance


Just imagine someone being killed for urinating near a mosque instead of being cautioned


Rossikki, you are a dreamer and a deluded one for that matter

India is not great because of the discriminating caste system practice over there

China greatness might be short live if she doesn't find a common ground with the dissenting regions

Unity love understanding tolerance and hardwork make nations great and not population

Rossikki:
No societies are perfect. Europe fought two "world" wars in the last century, that killed 100 million plus people. That's like 50 Biafra wars, in terms of casualties. If they could recover from that, then why should Fulani herders or arguments about restructuring stop Nigeria? They can't.

Rossikki:


Who the hell are you to impose a "ceiling" on Nigerian possibilities?

There are no "ceilings" for a country that's set to be the 3rd most populous nation on Earth after China and India.

No ceilings whatsoever.

Sapiosexuality:
That's the point. As long these issues have not been tackled or even considered to be worthy of attention, your dream of a Pharaonic Egypt is just what it is–a dream.

aribisala0:

There is ALWAYS a 3rd most populous. If we become 3rd we won't be the first to be 3rd just the latest.
How has that epped those that have been 3rd before?
That is if the coming civil war does not wipe out half of our population

Rossikki:
If you are the world's 3rd most populous nation, you will attract incredible amounts of investment, which is certain to boost your economy.

aribisala0:

Like I said there always has been a 3rd. .
Does history back up your assertion.
Being 3rd or even 1st is just one of severally equally important or more important factors.
Our population is similar to Pakistan

Rossikki:
I can't think of any nation in the last 200 years that was the world's 3rd most populous state, and yet wasn't highly influential in the comity of nations. Nigeria in 2050 will likely hold a billion people, roughly the current population of India. That is MARKET. That WILL attract major international capital and commerce.

vantage001:

In the case of the united states, they can walk the talk.
They walked the talk in WW2 and destroyed the imperial Empire of japan which was a superpower in its own right.
They crippled the soviet union, a mighty nuclear superpower too.
No other superpower in history has that achievement.
A round of applause for the yanks.

aribisala0:
highly influential is a nebulous and meaningless term.We were talking of attracting investment. There is no correlation between that an population China has been the most populous followed by India for decades and both were among the poorest nations on earth and still host many of the world's poorest. Add Nigeria Pakistan and Indonesia to that mix and you have the collection of the most wretched on the planet with forgotten diseases like leprosy and polio still prevalent. The idea that copulation and procreation is a pathway out of poverty is one of the most absurd I have ever heard

Sapiosexuality:
That was because their cultures, their traditions and their ethics were not eroded by any western influence. What was needed in their case was simply mobilization. They held tightly to these values in the face of new western threats. Their medicine, their religion, their food, etc, was not shaken.

In Nigeria, the reverse is the case. Our cultures, traditions and ethics were touched by western influences. I know how many times I've argued with folks around that intelligence has nothing to do with skin colour. We must first emancipate our people from mental slavery before we can entertain such dreams.

Rossikki:
Problems are not solved overnight. Look, in the UK, in the days of Charles Dickens, ie the Victorian era, about a century ago, people slept 10 to a room in London, Manchester, Liverpool etc. Disease was rife, child labour the norm. Poverty was widespread, as the aristocracy lived large in huge palaces. But, over a 100 year period, political agitation in the British Parliament led to societal changes, introduction of welfare benefits, and other policies aimed at alleviating the suffering of the poor and elderly... it took DECADES and DECADES of activism by various interest groups to get those laws passed, to what they have today. So development is not about saying, "look, we have problems. Therefore we can never succeed." That is the wrong way to approach the issue. If you have an agenda, your job is to PUSH that agenda politically.

STILL BROKE
Some of the world’s biggest countries have managed to reduce extreme poverty—except Nigeria
Yomi Kazeem April 21, 2017 Quartz Africa
In this Thursday, Oct. 11, 2011 photo, a woman woman sells plastic bags in a busy market on Lagos Island in Lagos, Nigeria. Lagos is expected to overtake Cairo soon as Africa's largest city. In Nigeria's commercial capital, the population is estimated at 15 million and growing at 6 percent or more each year. Problems with traffic congestion, sanitation and water supplies are staggering; a recent article in UN-Habitat said two-thirds of the residents live in poverty.
Paper chasing.
Despite its vast oil riches and impressive economic growth, Nigeria has struggled to lift its people out of poverty over the past three decades.
That fact stands out in the World Bank’s 2017 Atlas of Sustainable Development Goals, which shows that 35 million more Nigerians were living in extreme poverty in 2013 than in 1990. The Atlas tracks the progress countries are making to meet 17 development goals set out by the United Nations, such as reducing economic inequality, the use of clean energy, and literacy rates. Among the 10 most populous countries for which data is available, only Nigeria recorded an increase in the number of citizens who live in extreme poverty over the period of the study. The Atlas defines “extreme poverty” as living on less than $1.90 a day.

While the ballooning number can be linked to a population surge in Nigeria (the country grew from 96 to 174 million people between 1990 and 2013), this doesn’t fully account for the persistence of extreme poverty in the country. All 10 of the biggest countries in the World Bank’s report also registered population increases over that period, barring Russia. Nigeria’s 81% population increase was dwarfed by Ethiopia, which saw a 96% increase over the same period.
Nigeria’s progress has been significantly impeded by its inability to distribute the country’s immense oil wealth to citizens. This is corroborated by a recent report from the Legatum Institute, a London-based think tank, which measured “prosperity delivery” to citizens in comparison to a country’s actual wealth. Of the 38 countries covered by the research, Nigeria ranked 26th, with the report saying it was “under-delivering” prosperity to its citizens.
Corruption and incompetence are to blame, and last week served up another reminder of how much malfeasance costs the country. Emails leaked by anti-corruption charities Global Witness and Finance Uncovered suggested that a $1.3 billion payment by oil giants Shell and Eni in 2011 for a lucrative but undeveloped Nigerian oilfield never went to the public trust for which it was intended. Instead, almost all of the money (nearly half of that year’s national education budget) was divvied up as kickbacks between high-ranking government officials.

Sapiosexuality:
Yeah but it seems you already solved this problem before you wrote the op. Development is about saying 'Yes, we have problems and we are going to solve it'. Have we even, in unison, agree we have problems?

Your Charles Dickens analogy captures our point. It will takes decades and in our case Centuries but we cannot pretend that in 2050 we'd be the world power. While we engage in Activism, the most important thing is for the system to build the minds of her people.

My position is not that we can't achieve it but that the interval of your op is not realistic. It's not possible.

Rossikki:
The number One "western influence" is saying "No...it can't be done". It was the white man who implanted such feelings of inadequacy in you, which you are here propagating. Get rid of that particular bit of western influence, and the others will similarly disappear.

Rossikki:
What is not possible, the GDP projections of $7.3 trillion, or the population, or what? I never said every Nigerian will live in a palace in 2050. Why should it take "centuries" in our case? The GDP projections for 2050 by PwC, are based on current economic growth rates. So it makes no sense arguing that they are wrong.

Rossikki:
Stop lumping everyone together. Each country you listed has its own story. Pakistan is not China, and India is not Indonesia. China hosted the wretched of the earth, yet look at them today.

aribisala0:

Your statement lacks logic. If being 3rd most populous is such a crucia and absolute variable then the " story " should not be relevant. So which is it being third or the peculiar story?

Rossikki:
Nigeria by 2050 will be the the world's 3rd most populous nation on earth, after China and India.


https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/13/nigeria-larger-population-us-2050



Egypt of the Pharoahs

900 BC was the tail end of the mighty Egyptian empire, which had lasted for thousands of years, and had been Africa's Number 1 nation, exporting knowledge and technology across the earth.

The great empire of Mali, between the 10th and 16th centuries AD, tried hard to replicate the Egyptian miracle in the heart of West Africa, but eventually fell short due to lack of resources.

NOW COMES NIGERIA.

''We project new emerging economies like Mexico and Indonesia to be larger than the UK and France by 2030
(in PPP terms) while Turkey could become larger than Italy. Nigeria and Vietnam could be the fast growing
large economies over the period to 2050.'' PriceWaterHouseCoopers

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf


''Indonesia, Mexico and Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies''

http://www.pwc.com/jp/en/japan-press-room/press-release/2015/world-in-2050-150227.html


Nigeria, the emerging African Colossus, set to have a larger population than the USA in a couple of decades. With a projected GDP by 2050 of $7.3 TRILLION, the nation is a growing magnet for high end indigenous and foreign investment, and is projected to be among the world's top 10 economies by 2050.

NIGERIA appears set to lead a powerful African resurgence onto the world scene, and make Africa Great Again.

Rossikki:


Who the hell are you to impose a "ceiling" on Nigerian possibilities?

There are no "ceilings" for a country that's set to be the 3rd most populous nation on Earth after China and India.

No ceilings whatsoever.

nku5:
OP - I like your faith and hopes but Nigeria isnt anywhere near greatness. A huge population with a failed educational system is recipe for major failure....

Kathmandu:
You always sound so empty and delusional that you remind me of Boxer in Orwellian Animal farm

Bahddo:
I won't argue the bit about population, but 1 billion backward brains wouldn't make a country a superpower. Nigerians haven't learnt to reason like normal people, and the next generation do not look promising either. Superstitious minds, religious and ethnic bigotry do not make for much growth.

Forget it, mahn...

Kathmandu:
Mtseww. This one is even a troll