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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by drhopeful: 6:21pm On May 30, 2017
Feygbe:


Thank you all for you quick responses. I did the US PCC before. Took the fingerprints while in the US. But it became invalid on going back there. My issue now is how to do the fingerprints here in Nigeria to send to the US.. Please assist
If you are in Lagos, you can go to Alagbon. Otherwise you can be like me - follow the instructions on how to fingerprint, buy a good stamp pad and do it in the comfort of your home. To be on the safe side, you can fingerprint on up to 5 copies of the form. Then mail your application packet to FBI. I did that and got mine in 7 weeks.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by bbaby84(f): 6:24pm On May 30, 2017
perks:


Laff wan kill me here oooo grin grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Me too! Tears streaming down. This Elfman is a character.

elfmann:

Hahaha..u dey mind them? You never read pre, which will get you an ITA na post you wan create a separate thread for. If my wife smashes IELTS any need for me to do ECA? Can I use one WES profile for two pple u know to save cost. With questions like these..no headway.. Which means you haven't read page 0 sef. Go ahead, only Una go dey look unaselves and dey ask who is VO? What is ADV?

cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Babachi: 6:51pm On May 30, 2017
Feygbe:


Thank you. Do the funds need to have been transferred to my acct for any certain period before?
No
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Feygbe: 6:53pm On May 30, 2017
drhopeful:
If you are in Lagos, you can go to Alagbon. Otherwise you can be like me - follow the instructions on how to fingerprint, buy a good stamp pad and do it in the comfort of your home. To be on the safe side, you can fingerprint on up to 5 copies of the form. Then mail your application packet to FBI. I did that and got mine in 7 weeks.

Thank you so much!

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Feygbe: 6:54pm On May 30, 2017
bbaby84:


Print out the form and take it to Alagbon for finger printing then post to FBI

Thank you very much!
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Bosayo: 7:58pm On May 30, 2017
Hello my peeps, abeg help a sister ohhh. I have updated my account with my new ielts result since morning but my Crs score remain the same.
Should i withdraw and re-create account.

Thanks
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Jumdah20: 8:04pm On May 30, 2017
Wowwww, that would be horrible, lol

Boss13:


Yes oh - Using gift deed opens your documents to more scrutiny. They know that 99% of gift deeds are actual loans, but with legal documents supporting the gift, there is nothing they can do. Rather they would review your documents very well with the view of finding errors and not completeness. In cases where slight errors can be ignored, they would hold it against the applicant.

These are not my views, but from someone who just got COPR.

My view - I will advise anyone who intends to use gift deed to avoid it at last minute. If your lender can spare the money for 6 months, use another account to collect the money and buy Treasury bills for 6 months or agree with your lender to credit your account with narration - PURCHASE PAYMENT OF ASSETS/CAR/LAND. Then go and get documents to support sales. If you still want to use gift deed - ensure your documents are over complete without errors.

I hope the Visa officers are not reading this comment sha.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by AlexanderGreat(m): 8:04pm On May 30, 2017
Thanx a bunch!

Boss13:


Go to the Federal high Court Igbosere. I think its N500 per page. It may have increased oh!
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Nobody: 8:19pm On May 30, 2017
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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by ottawaboi: 8:55pm On May 30, 2017
Boss13:


POF can either be in the name of the primary applicant or in the name of the spouse. Nothing wrong in POF being in your name. No need to transfer to your wife.

Please note that this is just my opinion. The supposed problem with your POF is your cooperative, because the VO will need to confirm objectively that you have the money you claimed in your application and I do not know how your cooperative will satisfy that. You can either get a certificate from your cooperative after you liquidate the funds to show when the investment was made and when it was liquidated. This can assist the VO to form an opinion that the money in your statement of account is actually from your cooperative. Also, like I said previously, no need transferring the money again to your wife. It may appear you are trying to conceal something. Please note that I said, it may appear. Then you can explain your proof of funds in your letter of explanation. And if you can liquidate this cooperatives investment today, please do, but get the certificate and letter from them and also hope your cooperative is registered.

On your wife's international passport, she has two choice - wait next year to get a new one or apply with the old one. Also, the name on her passport must be the same on her application. There is a section for applicants who have other names - she can then put her new name there. Then support with marriage certificate, affidavit and newspaper column for change of name.
well said senior. However, the funds isn't coming from only one cooperative. Luke I earlier said ,its my thoughts. Will really appreciate more contributions in this regard and how best to go about it.

As PoF, can we present, her account,my account and a dorm account?? Isn't this too distracting for the VO??

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by MummyJaygirls: 8:58pm On May 30, 2017
Bosayo:
Hello my peeps, abeg help a sister ohhh. I have updated my account with my new ielts result since morning but my Crs score remain the same.
Should i withdraw and re-create account.

Thanks

Check in 24 hours
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Chordata(m): 10:36pm On May 30, 2017
My people, I think we need to conduct more research on what constitutes or does not constitute acceptable POF. I've been doing some research and it seems like provident funds (PF) are accepted. PFs are quite similar to our Retirement Savings Account (RSA). Here is an extract from one of the provinces in Canada (Saskatchewan):

"The following funds will be accepted:

Personal chequing or savings accounts
Bonds
Cash value life insurance
Guaranteed Investment Certificate (GICs) or Certificates of Deposit
Mutual Funds
Provident Funds (an official letter from the provident fund organization indicating the amount of funds that are accessible is required)
Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs)
Stocks
Tax Free Savings Accounts (TFSAs)
Term deposits and time deposits (must be valid at the time of application and remain valid throughout the entire application process)
Treasury Bills

Debentures, credit cards, lines of credit, gold, cash, property or businesses are not accepted as settlement funds".

On CIC website, they say the following about POF:

These funds could be in the form of:

-cash,
-documents that show property or capital payable to you (such as stocks, bonds, debentures, treasury bills, etc.), or
documents that guarantee payment of a set amount of money, which are payable to you (such as bankers’ drafts, cheques, travellers’ cheques or money orders).

The only issue for now is probably that no one has tested this. I plan to write them to get an opinion soon so maybe we can get clarity about the whole issue.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by yungreezy: 10:43pm On May 30, 2017
Guys please quick question, I'm about paying for my iqas eca now, but I'm using a friends card. I hope this wouldn't cause any issues? Given that the name on card information would be his.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by perks: 10:47pm On May 30, 2017
yungreezy:
Guys please quick question, I'm about paying for my iqas eca now, but I'm using a friends card. I hope this wouldn't cause any issues? Given that the name on card information would be his.

Doesn't matter
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Nobody: 12:02am On May 31, 2017
Onyeenyeh:


3. I have a three year old cousin who lives with me. Is there any possibility of including him in my application?

Look into the possibility of adopting your cousin legally after due consultation with the parents or guardians (as the case maybe) and getting the necessary paperwork/orders from the social welfare office and courts...i think that's the only way for him to be your dependant.

Also see the below:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/glossary.asp#d

Adoption
A process whereby a person becomes a member of another family. This process must create a genuine parent-child relationship that permanently severs the legal ties to the child’s biological parents or guardians.

Dependent child
A child who depends on their parent for financial and other support. A son or daughter is considered a dependant of their parent when the child is:
under 19 years old, and does not have a spouse or partner, or
19 years old and over, and has depended largely on the parent’s financial support since before the age of 19 because of a physical or mental condition.

The definition of a dependent child before August 1, 2014 was:

A child who depends on their parent for financial and other support. A son or daughter is considered a dependant of their parent when the child is:

under 22 years old, and does not have a spouse or partner, or
a full-time student on an ongoing basis since before the age of 22, and has depended largely on a parent's financial support since that time, or
22 years old and over, and
became a spouse or partner before the age of 22, and
has been a full-time student on an ongoing basis since before the age of 22, and
has depended largely on a parent's financial support since they became a spouse or partner, or
22 years old and over, and has depended largely on the parent's financial support since before the age of 22 because of a physical or mental condition.

Culled from CIC website
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by GFavor: 3:11am On May 31, 2017
Hello Gurus in the house, for the POST ITA issues, i will suggest we have a page on this thread that has the steps for Post ITA just like Zandora did with page 0 for Pre ITA. This way anyone that has a question on Post ITA will be referred to this page, then come back and ask specific questions. This Post ITA page should contain what to look out for, putting your docs together, snapshots, pdf tips etc. It should also have the meanings of all those abbreviations COPR,AOR, etc.
I know it will be time consuming but pls gurus in the house lets put heads together so people don't keep clamouring for a seperate thread Post ITA.
@ Vcole, Dupsyshoo, Elfmann, Cala, Zandora etc over to u.

Sorry i will not be able to contribute as we are still in the pool. Hubby is the PA, we have been on this since 2015. All information we needed we got from this thread. I have never asked any question because i always visit the thread and pick solutions from responses. I started from page 0. Hubby is not so keen so i have to en courage him from what i read from here. His profile is better.

Sorry for my long epistle. God will help everyone on this canadian dream. Let us keep this thread alive.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Boss13: 6:50am On May 31, 2017
Chordata:
My people, I think we need to conduct more research on what constitutes or does not constitute acceptable POF. I've been doing some research and it seems like provident funds (PF) are accepted. PFs are quite similar to our Retirement Savings Account (RSA). Here is an extract from one of the provinces in Canada (Saskatchewan):

"The following funds will be accepted:

Personal chequing or savings accounts
Bonds
Cash value life insurance
Guaranteed Investment Certificate (GICs) or Certificates of Deposit
Mutual Funds
Provident Funds (an official letter from the provident fund organization indicating the amount of funds that are accessible is required)
Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs)
Stocks
Tax Free Savings Accounts (TFSAs)
Term deposits and time deposits (must be valid at the time of application and remain valid throughout the entire application process)
Treasury Bills

Debentures, credit cards, lines of credit, gold, cash, property or businesses are not accepted as settlement funds".

On CIC website, they say the following about POF:

These funds could be in the form of:

-cash,
-documents that show property or capital payable to you (such as stocks, bonds, debentures, treasury bills, etc.), or
documents that guarantee payment of a set amount of money, which are payable to you (such as bankers’ drafts, cheques, travellers’ cheques or money orders).

The only issue for now is probably that no one has tested this. I plan to write them to get an opinion soon so maybe we can get clarity about the whole issue.

I can confidently tell you that Pension funds if submitted will not be calculated as your POF.

Let me explain - you need to prove you have funds to settle in Canada and take care of your family for the meanwhile. This fund MUST be available to you at any point in time - Pension fund isn't.

Now when you get to Canada - you can show your Pension fund as part of your settlement funds. That will be accepted to enable you gain entry. Please note settlement fund is not proof of fund.

POF is before you get COPR. Settlement fund is after you get COPR and you are landing in Canada. What you disclosed above is what you will show border control when you get to Canada. They will not ask you for 6 months bank statement. However, the VO must ascertain that the fund you claim you have is actually yours.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by temitope06(m): 7:27am On May 31, 2017
I don't understand when folks say this thread doesn't tackle post ITA issues. I got every single post ITA info I needed from this same thread. Docs to submit in each section, converting to PDF, merging two or more PDF docs, letter to get from the bank, how to go about paying for the application, POF, getting PCC, gift deed samples, hospital info for Medicals and so many more I got from this thread. Are all these not post ITA issues? Questions like how VOs conduct background checks is beyond us na, we be VO? All u shd worry abt is submitting the appropriate docs and how to go about that is all on this thread. The only tricky issue is POF and diff scenarios have been tackled here. If u wanna create a thread for whatever, go ahead but don't say this thread doesn't tackle this and that. 100% of info I needed to submit was gotten off this thread. Just read and open ur brain while reading to understand. It's not rocket science or quantum physics. Same question is repeated on every single page. Gurus in the house, God bless.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Nobody: 7:45am On May 31, 2017
Boss13:


I can confidently tell you that Pension funds if submitted will not be calculated as your POF.

Let me explain - you need to prove you have funds to settle in Canada and take care of your family for the meanwhile. This fund MUST be available to you at any point in time - Pension fund isn't.

Now when you get to Canada - you can show your Pension fund as part of your settlement funds. That will be accepted to enable you gain entry. Please note settlement fund is not proof of fund.

POF is before you get COPR. Settlement fund is after you get COPR and you are landing in Canada. What you disclosed above is what you will show border control when you get to Canada

Please can you shed more light on settlement fund/border check thingy? Will they surely ask for settlement fund proof to gain entry into the country?
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Chordata(m): 8:56am On May 31, 2017
Boss13:


I can confidently tell you that Pension funds if submitted will not be calculated as your POF.

Let me explain - you need to prove you have funds to settle in Canada and take care of your family for the meanwhile. This fund MUST be available to you at any point in time - Pension fund isn't.

Now when you get to Canada - you can show your Pension fund as part of your settlement funds. That will be accepted to enable you gain entry. Please note settlement fund is not proof of fund.

POF is before you get COPR. Settlement fund is after you get COPR and you are landing in Canada. What you disclosed above is what you will show border control when you get to Canada. They will not ask you for 6 months bank statement. However, the VO must ascertain that the fund you claim you have is actually yours.

okay fine but what are you basing your conclusion on? Experience or did you read up something? Do you have documentary evidence?
There is no difference between proof of fund and settlement fund except you can show me the difference from some write up. Proof of fund means you should have sufficient funds to settle in Canada so I don't know how you distinguished between the two. Read from Canadavisa forum and you will find people that used provident funds as POF. They do not expect you to have all the cash in hand at the moment; the idea is that you can access the funds when you need to.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by XX01(f): 9:33am On May 31, 2017
Chordata:


They do not expect you to have all the cash in hand at the moment; the idea is that you can access the funds when you need to.

Going by your argument, can you access your retirement savings when you need it? I think it should be last option. More like a Plan Z if all else fails.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by mzjennypher(f): 9:34am On May 31, 2017
Dear House, pls my masters result wld be approved today by senate but only transcript and notification of result wld be available as certificate wld take 8-12weeks cos vc has to sign. please can i send my transcript and notification of results to iqas? wld they evaluate without certificate? dear gurus pls assist.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by edababa007(m): 9:37am On May 31, 2017
Boss13:


I can confidently tell you that Pension funds if submitted will not be calculated as your POF.

Let me explain - you need to prove you have funds to settle in Canada and take care of your family for the meanwhile. This fund MUST be available to you at any point in time - Pension fund isn't.

Now when you get to Canada - you can show your Pension fund as part of your settlement funds. That will be accepted to enable you gain entry. Please note settlement fund is not proof of fund.

POF is before you get COPR. Settlement fund is after you get COPR and you are landing in Canada. What you disclosed above is what you will show border control when you get to Canada. They will not ask you for 6 months bank statement. However, the VO must ascertain that the fund you claim you have is actually yours.


Pension fund is allowed. I went to my PFA ( IBTC Pensions Managers) to confirm if only 25% of my account balance can be considered as POF for Canada PR Visa. I was informed that the total balance in my account would be considered. That though 25% is considered for those that are out of work and still in Nigeria. 100% is considered for those applying for Canada PR.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Nobody: 9:47am On May 31, 2017
Chordata:


Provident Funds (an official letter from the provident fund organization indicating the amount of funds that are accessible is required)
Registered Retirement Savings Plans (RRSPs)


Hope you know that though the above are similar, there is a difference...
The sum total in a Provident Fund can be assessed when the need arises but in the case of RSA you can only assess 1/4 before retirement and nothing more.

Let's try to take our minds totally out of the RSA and look for better means of Proof of Funds

What is good for John might be poisonous to James...to be forewarned is to be forearmed!

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Dammiehar(f): 9:59am On May 31, 2017
mzjennypher:
Dear House, pls my masters result wld be approved today by senate but only transcript and notification of result wld be available as certificate wld take 8-12weeks cos vc has to sign. please can i send my transcript and notification of results to iqas? wld they evaluate without certificate? dear gurus pls assist.

IQAS have been known to evaluate qualifications with notification of results, just make sure your transcripts are sent by your school, you should be good.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Nobody: 10:04am On May 31, 2017
edababa007:



Pension fund is allowed. I went to my PFA ( IBTC Pensions Managers) to confirm if only 25% of my account balance can be considered as POF for Canada PR Visa. I was informed that the total balance in my account would be considered. That though 25% is considered for those that are out of work and still in Nigeria. 100% is considered for those applying for Canada PR.



Please don't be deceived...you can't have access to 100% of funds in your RSA...25% is what the Pensions Act states and this can only be applied for four months after you are out of work.

The question we should ask ourselves is: would the 25% be accessed before we submit our application post ITA and would it be sufficient to meet CIC's requirement for the program under which we are applying?The answer most likely is NO! as Most people here are still employed and as such this would prove a difficulty.

Be it known that You can only access 100% upon retirement and that too has conditions to be met and hence does not satisfy the requirement of funds being free from encumbers...(if not we would have being allowed to borrow).

Also the PFA is not the VO who holds a final decision on what constitute proof of funds

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by keni: 10:13am On May 31, 2017
edababa007:



Pension fund is allowed. I went to my PFA ( IBTC Pensions Managers) to confirm if only 25% of my account balance can be considered as POF for Canada PR Visa. I was informed that the total balance in my account would be considered. That though 25% is considered for those that are out of work and still in Nigeria. 100% is considered for those applying for Canada PR.



Bros please shed more light on this issue please
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Chordata(m): 10:16am On May 31, 2017
Charmingdivah:


Please don't be deceived...you can't have access to 100% of funds in your RSA...25% is what the Pensions Act states and this can only be applied for four months after you are out of work.

The question we should as ourselves is: would the 25% be accessed before we submit our application post ITA and would it be sufficient to meet CIC's requirement for the program under which we are applying?The answer most likely is NO! as Most people here are still employed an as such this would proof a difficulty.

Be it known that You can only access 100% upon retirement and that too has conditions to be met and hence does not satisfy the requirement of funds being free from encumbers...(if not we would have being allowed to borrow).

Also the PFA is not the VO who holds a final decision on what constitute proof of funds


Fair point
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by Feygbe: 10:21am On May 31, 2017
drhopeful:
If you are in Lagos, you can go to Alagbon. Otherwise you can be like me - follow the instructions on how to fingerprint, buy a good stamp pad and do it in the comfort of your home. To be on the safe side, you can fingerprint on up to 5 copies of the form. Then mail your application packet to FBI. I did that and got mine in 7 weeks.

Hello. Pls what paper type did you print the FD- 258 form on? The website says standard white paper stock. Can I get that at regular business centres?
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program Connect Here by keni: 10:22am On May 31, 2017
Charmingdivah:


Please don't be deceived...you can't have access to 100% of funds in your RSA...25% is what the Pensions Act states and this can only be applied for four months after you are out of work.

The question we should as ourselves is: would the 25% be accessed before we submit our application post ITA and would it be sufficient to meet CIC's requirement for the program under which we are applying?The answer most likely is NO! as Most people here are still employed an as such this would proof a difficulty.

Be it known that You can only access 100% upon retirement and that too has conditions to be met and hence does not satisfy the requirement of funds being free from encumbers...(if not we would have being allowed to borrow).

Also the PFA is not the VO who holds a final decision on what constitute proof of funds


This is the understanding I have too but since he said something about those that are out of Job but still in Nigeria, I think he should explain further

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