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SHAKABOOM:
Then let dere be armed conflict then..You think say NIGGAZ dey smile dis days?abi you think say the new ibo youth dey fear War..
Restructure or go to WAR.

fulanmafia:
What part of the sentence "constitutional amendment is required to restructure" do you constantly fail to understand?

Or do you think any recommendations can be implemented without the legislature?

SHAKABOOM:
Then let dere be armed conflict then..You think say NIGGAZ dey smile dis days?abi you think say the new ibo youth dey fear War..
Restructure or go to WAR.

Chigboboss:


Can we match the Nigerian Army, Air-force and Navy?

Do we have any arms or weapons stockpiled for any eventuality?

Do you know 99% of Nigeria's military establishments and armories are in the same north?

Do you want millions of our kinsmen dead again because of pride that will take us nowhere?

Do we have the US/UK as allies like the Nigeria?

Did your father experience the war and tell you of the horror they survived? Do you know up till now my mother is traumatized whenever war is mentioned?

fulanmafia:
Lol I suggest you do some reading before continuing with this discourse.

Ignorance is a terrible cancer, but thankfully it can be cured.

fulanmafia:
The soviet union collapsed by the orders of Communist party (or APC in our case) and Soviet Government with Mikhail Gorbachev (or Buhari in our case) at the top.

Yugoslavia and Sudan collapsed through armed conflict.

Which one can you do?

Whether you choose disintegration or restructuring, either can only be achieved through constitutional amendment or armed conflict.

fulanmafia:
Kids everywhere , don't let your parents that witnessed 1967 hear you.

Just listen to your brother...

HiddenShadow:
You shouldn't have exposed this fact to fulanimafia

It's a secret best served cold like East Timor successful separation from Indonesia

Ogbuefi2020:
You are just letting us know how primitive your people are, in the age you are boasting of feudalisitc conquest by blood shed.

SHAKABOOM:
Then let dere be armed conflict then..You think say NIGGAZ dey smile dis days?abi you think say the new ibo youth dey fear War..
Restructure or go to WAR.

HiddenShadow:
Go and read about East Timor successful secession from Indonesia through violence reinforced UN Referendum


Amnesty International has laid the foundation for it

What is remaining is for Nigeria to throw away Restructuring after Northern Rule which will completely end by 2027.

SHAKABOOM:
Those niggaz have this believe that ibos can't leave dia business and go to war again..Thats why dis wicked souls treat ibos anyhow they like and shot at innocent protesters,its time we clear dia doubt.

HiddenShadow:
Ogbuefi2020 shakaboom and chigboboss

Leave people like fulanimafia to be fooling himself until another East Timor repeats itself


East Timor violence reinforced UN Referendum is the pathway Nigeria is following which has started but will manifest by 2027

Just as Tiny East Timor broke away from mighty Indonesia will Biafrans break way through a violence reinforced UN Referendum

SHAKABOOM:
Those niggaz have this believe that ibos can't leave dia business and go to war again..Thats why dis wicked souls treat ibos anyhow they like and shot at innocent protesters,its time we clear dia doubt.

Ogbuefi2020:
I can see you are allergic to logical debate, if you have any fact, state it and let us continue the debate from whatever fact you may have revealed that we did not know before

fulanmafia:
You sound just like Ojukwu before he discovered the beauty of Ivory coast.

SE and empty chestbeating like...

kingzizzy:
The above is why restructuring is not possible in Nigeria. Wherw will anyone get majority of the legislators in 24 states to vote for restructuring? This is mission impossible especially with Northern states.


Restructuring will never happen in Nigeria ever ever. That is why all Southern Nigerians had better face the two choices remaining. Continue with Nigeria the way it is or secede.

fulanmafia:
Listen carefully for the last time;

No restructuring is possible without constitutional amendment whether there are confab recommendations or not. Kapish?

fulanmafia:
Listen carefully for the last time;

No restructuring is possible without constitutional amendment whether there are confab recommendations or not. Kapish?

HiddenShadow:
Fulanimafia does not know that UN conducts referendum whenever a secessionist uprising springs up the 2nd time

He hasn't heard of East Timor


Chigboboss Ogbuefi2020

HiddenShadow:
Listen carefully for the last time


Go study East Timor and bookmark it that I educated you first that Nigeria is on the way of Indonesia and East Timor scenario and will culminate between 2027 and 2030

wirinet:
If you say Restructuring is not possible because of difficult constitutional requirements, how do you then think secession will then be possible?
The main hurdle to restructuring is not necessarily the constitution, it is our elites - both political and business elites from all tribes including Ndigbo.
The elites of Nigeria are too pampered and enjoy huge advantages, they will not let go of these advantages willingly. If the Elites even if only southern elites advocate for restructuring believe me the north will start panicking and initiate negotiations.
Now tell me how many national assembly members advocate for restructuring. Name just one Ndigbo son advocating for restructuring. Tell me one civil society group advocating for restructuring. Tell me just one party that has restructuring as part of its manifesto. NONE.

wirinet:
If you say Restructuring is not possible because of difficult constitutional requirements, how do you then think secession will then be possible?
The main hurdle to restructuring is not necessarily the constitution, it is our elites - both political and business elites from all tribes including Ndigbo.
The elites of Nigeria are too pampered and enjoy huge advantages, they will not let go of these advantages willingly. If the Elites even if only southern elites advocate for restructuring believe me the north will start panicking and initiate negotiations.
Now tell me how many national assembly members advocate for restructuring. Name just one Ndigbo son advocating for restructuring. Tell me one civil society group advocating for restructuring. Tell me just one party that has restructuring as part of its manifesto. NONE.

fulanmafia:
Emptychest-beating kids everywhere , don't let your parents that witnessed 1967 hear you.

Just listen to your brother...

fulanmafia:
And I hope you're aware that the UN referendum in East Timor was on the request of their President Habibie and was not forced on the country (which is impossible as signatories to the UN charter)?

Is it Nnamdi Kanu that wants to ask for the UN Referendum ?

Well goodluck with that - knowing the most influential members of the UN (US/UK) have stated their positions on Nigeria in clear terms.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/01/restructuring-uk-united-nigeria-high-commissioner/
http://punchng.com/we-are-for-one-nigeria-says-britain/
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/198338-us-resumes-training-nigerian-troops-anti-terror-war.html

LISTEN.. I am not trying to antagonize or distress you, but to let you know your ONLY way out is through DIPLOMACY and not throwing insults, threats and blackmail at other Nigerians that you need to achieve your dream. Goodbye .

fulanmafia:
And I hope you're aware that the UN referendum in East Timor was on the request of their President Habibie and was not forced on the country (which is impossible as signatories to the UN charter)?

Is it Nnamdi Kanu that wants to ask for the UN Referendum ?

Well goodluck with that - knowing the most influential members of the UN (US/UK) have stated their positions on Nigeria in clear terms.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/01/restructuring-uk-united-nigeria-high-commissioner/
http://punchng.com/we-are-for-one-nigeria-says-britain/
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/198338-us-resumes-training-nigerian-troops-anti-terror-war.html

LISTEN.. I am not trying to antagonize or distress you, but to let you know your ONLY way out is through DIPLOMACY and not throwing insults, threats and blackmail at other Nigerians that you need to achieve your dream. Goodbye .

HiddenShadow:
Fulanimafia does not know that UN conducts referendum whenever a secessionist uprising springs up the 2nd time

He hasn't heard of East Timor


Chigboboss Ogbuefi2020

Ogbuefi2020:
What has the dullar.dinho doing about it. LIsten very well to the speakers above, they said that everybody is tried of status quo and urgent action is needed. He should just get things done or at least try and make some moves that all

SHAKABOOM:
He will know when its late.

HiddenShadow:
Go and read about the violence that erupted in Christian dominated East Timor which prompted the UN to conduct a referendum


It wasn't the President of Indonesia but the violent uprising that brought in the UN to conduct referendum

HiddenShadow:
Close your mouth
You are talking to a historian on secessionist movements

Ogbuefi2020:
Must you turn every thread to Biafra thread, you are the first to drag Biafra into this thread. Once again, look at the people that spoke, none of them is Biafran yet they said the same thing the Biafrans have been saying.

wirinet:
You seem not to understand how the political elite operate. They tell the masses whatever they want to hear to get the support of the masses, but when they get to positions of authority they do something completely different.

Imagine Prof Jerry Gana talking about restructuring, this is someone who had been milking this crooked structure all his life.
Even Atiku claim to have had the "Damascus road" experience and seen the light of restructuring. Give him the presidency and see if he is truly born again.

fulanmafia:
LIES.

HiddenShadow:
The answer to your question lies here



Conditions for UN Referendum
1) Member States can invite UN for Referendum eg India and Pakistan
2) Long unresolved secessionist war of about 25years brings about UN Referendum eg South Sudan
3) Second secessionist uprising brings about UN Referendum eg East Timor


Nigeria/Biafra is playing out like Indonesia/East Timor crisis


This crisis will culminate between 2027 and 2030

Northerners have 2 choices before them

Restructure or forget One Nigeria that includes Igbos

HiddenShadow:
Now answer the following questions

1) Was there violence before UN intervened

2) Why didn't Indonesia conduct a referendum but had to wait for a UN referendum.

Chigboboss Shakaboom Ogbuefi2020 wirinet

pls you guys should ask fulanmafia these 2 questions after reading the main content I extracted

wirinet:
You seem not to understand how the political elite operate. They tell the masses whatever they want to hear to get the support of the masses, but when they get to positions of authority they do something completely different.

Imagine Prof Jerry Gana talking about restructuring, this is someone who had been milking this crooked structure all his life.
Even Atiku claim to have had the "Damascus road" experience and seen the light of restructuring. Give him the presidency and see if he is truly born again.