₦airaland Forum

Develpeast:
It is you who is seeing the inconsistency. A united south has more influence than the east in Biafra. A united south has no influence against the north talkless of the west in Nigeria. You can debate that all you want.

An urhobo tribe will be well known, better represented in Biafra than Nigeria. You debate that all you want.

Urhobo and other southern minorities have for once in history to negotiate their individual existence before agreeing to be part of a union. If they do not agree, then they opt to stay back with the country.

It is something that you must do and you will not shy away from it. Negotiations must be in place because everyone will be starting from the beginning. It is a big task, but it is worth trying.

mekuzi09:
Big bross, I'm quoting you after a long time now, I believe that the days of tribal war is coming to an end on this forum..... Don't you think that you have the power to influence the constitution to suit your objective at the initial? To draft it in a way that no ethnic group can have an absolute grip on the presidency as it is obtainable in Nigeria.
I believe that the Biafrans are ready to give ND lot of consensus especially in the area of constitution and structure of the country. One of the major important factor is correct a century old mistake....

laudate:
The Urhobos are saying they do not want to unite with you, and yet you are still insisting on it by dishing up some half-baked theories, that any schoolkid can see perceive as hogwash. Haba! Na by force??

Develpeast:
Laudate, I am not a nairaland personality who you guys argue with irritating words. If you cannot have any logical argument, then I believe we are done here.

laudate:
There is nothing irritating about what I wrote. You are just the one who failed to see the logic in it. Sorry, can't help you.

clevadani:
Some people are just typing as if they would have the power in the new country to give Niger delta resource control

photoshoot:
my brother I shock o

You would think some of them are running for President of Biafra unopposed. We will, Biafra will...

Candyrain:
Noted. Thanks

I believe u are for restructuring of the country I suppose and I want to believe u've gone through this thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3831653/fg-why-restructuring-wont-work

That thread made it clear that restructuring in Nigeria is impossible. Igbos calling other ethnic nationalities to join in the struggle is to have a collective voice which would be loud enough that no one can ignore. We all have our various struggles including the Urhobos and this has been on for years, what has been the outcome so far? A lone voice is not always heard.

So in light of what was said in that thread, how else do u think we can push for the restructuring?

Note that before the Igbos set out for all out secession they were for restructuring which was the Aburi Accord.

Unimaginable123:
What are you gaining being part of nigeria?
And don't forget, Igbos make up 60% of Niger Delta

mathy001:
I didn't see that you modified your post later on. Just saw it.

Regarding your question, I believe that Nigeria is a dead nation. We can only try to salvage it but it may be very hard to do that with zombified Northerners roaming around. The only solution may be to secede or make a bold move such as what you guys did yesterday. However, yesterday's move was not bold enough. We need to do something to make a more lasting impression that will force the international community to look into the plight of the Igbos and the SS.

My only bone of contention is that if the minorities in the SS and Igbos must secede, there should be a round-table discussion of terms. These things have to be discussed before the struggle even starts. If Igbos had officially invited minority leaders to discuss terms of coalition, no one would have the impetus to claim "We the SS" or say that Igbos are forcing SSners into Biafra. Sadly, such is the reality because many youths go around peddling projected maps where other people's territories are arbitrarily added.

There needs to be a serious conclave on the issues that plague our region so that SS and SE can see how to harmonise interests. We may not be fighting for Biafra as SSners, but we can join the Igbos to shake the FG so that while Igbos get Biafra, minorities can either choose to join Biafra, get their own independent nations or remain in the new Nigeria or whatever will be left of it.

It all boils down to dialogue with the SS and SE leaders and I expect SE leaders who are at the frontline of the agitation to extend this invitation to all minority groups, even those in the Middle Belt, so that we can all express our goals and harmonise interests even if our interests are dissimilar.

DonCortino:
What of the igbos in rivers state?

Candyrain:
I'm glad we've come to some sort of agreement and I agree with you that every ethnic nationalities in the defunct Eastern region need to have a round table discussion to ascertain what next after successfully seceding from Nigeria, whether to stay together or to go separate ways.

I for one don't buy the idea of "forcefully" including other nationalities into the struggle without their consent. It's disrespectful and totally wrong.

U made mentioned that our move yesterday wasn't bold enough, what would u have suggested we do next?

Note that yesterday sit-at-home move was to pay our respect to those who lost their lives in the war.

mathy001:
I didn't see that you modified your post later on. Just saw it.

Regarding your question, I believe that Nigeria is a dead nation. We can only try to salvage it but it may be very hard to do that with zombified Northerners roaming around. The only solution may be to secede or make a bold move such as what you guys did yesterday. However, yesterday's move was not bold enough. We need to do something to make a more lasting impression that will force the international community to look into the plight of the Igbos and the SS.

My only bone of contention is that if the minorities in the SS and Igbos must secede, there should be a round-table discussion of terms. These things have to be discussed before the struggle even starts. If Igbos had officially invited minority leaders to discuss terms of coalition, no one would have the impetus to claim "We the SS" or say that Igbos are forcing SSners into Biafra. Sadly, such is the reality because many youths go around peddling projected maps where other people's territories are arbitrarily added.

There needs to be a serious conclave on the issues that plague our region so that SS and SE can see how to harmonise interests. We may not be fighting for Biafra as SSners, but we can join the Igbos to shake the FG so that while Igbos get Biafra, minorities can either choose to join Biafra, get their own independent nations or remain in the new Nigeria or whatever will be left of it.

It all boils down to dialogue with the SS and SE leaders and I expect SE leaders who are at the frontline of the agitation to extend this invitation to all minority groups, even those in the Middle Belt, so that we can all express our goals and harmonise interests even if our interests are dissimilar.

mathy001:
For what it symbolised, it was okay. However if it is a move to show the world the plight of the Igbos, it wouldn't have been enough. I suggest you guys adopt some of the means of protest that Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King employed. Some of these include: hunger strikes, silent protests, civil disobedience, occupation of government premises, etc. There are bolder moves that may be adopted.

mathy001:
I didn't see that you modified your post later on. Just saw it.

Regarding your question, I believe that Nigeria is a dead nation. We can only try to salvage it but it may be very hard to do that with zombified Northerners roaming around. The only solution may be to secede or make a bold move such as what you guys did yesterday. However, yesterday's move was not bold enough. We need to do something to make a more lasting impression that will force the international community to look into the plight of the Igbos and the SS.

My only bone of contention is that if the minorities in the SS and Igbos must secede, there should be a round-table discussion of terms. These things have to be discussed before the struggle even starts. If Igbos had officially invited minority leaders to discuss terms of coalition, no one would have the impetus to claim "We the SS" or say that Igbos are forcing SSners into Biafra. Sadly, such is the reality because many youths go around peddling projected maps where other people's territories are arbitrarily added.

There needs to be a serious conclave on the issues that plague our region so that SS and SE can see how to harmonise interests. We may not be fighting for Biafra as SSners, but we can join the Igbos to shake the FG so that while Igbos get Biafra, minorities can either choose to join Biafra, get their own independent nations or remain in the new Nigeria or whatever will be left of it.

It all boils down to dialogue with the SS and SE leaders and I expect SE leaders who are at the frontline of the agitation to extend this invitation to all minority groups, even those in the Middle Belt, so that we can all express our goals and harmonise interests even if our interests are dissimilar.

Develpeast:
A point raised is meant to be countered with a superior point which makes the former invalid by the postulator. Saying a particular line of thought is hogwash or zeroed down to school kids is you not engaging in the argument but committing a fallacy of ad baculum.

I believe when you are inquired to come have a table talk about the future of your people, keeping in mind the reality of our today, you will still dish out this same argument. Right?

googi:
I cannot understand all the promises either. It seems Biafra is afraid to go at it alone. Let Igbo have their country, Urhobo their country, Ijaw their country, Isheki and Edo too. If it does not work out, each can join whichever country they want.

They have enough problems getting Aquam and Rivers to join then.

Go at it alone if you're serious.