₦airaland Forum

Debatesmartly:
You lot and the thieving elite?
The same type of thieving elite surronding buhari? the one who financially supported his campaign? The one he will never send the effc after ?
The same Pdp and corruption he hates while his daughter Halima is married to Ali Modu Sherriff son?
The west is sending back part of Abacha's loot every trimester same Abacha pmb said he never stole a dime from Nigeria?
Same Buhari who had to borrow money for his form while his children were schooling in the UK and wearing designer items.
Spare us the bullshit and the hypocrisy.
Your Apc is 80% former Pdp politicians only a populace as stupid and gullible as nigerians can belive that those are changed men or all somehow innocent.

each time i expose your hate filled propaganda, you come up with another one. Yes thieving elites who are finding it difficult for the first/second ( the first time being Buhari's too) time in the history of this country to madloot easily . We even hear say una Oga IBB through Dokpesi don launch another corruption coven APDA to which all of you remnants of corruption can run to before we finally put you all in your ignoble places for una crimes.

Halima is an independent human being and only God knows how love operates. It shows how utterly petty you to drag her into this. I was expecting you to say that the daughter of an ex president was involved in one crime or the other . Her only sin is being the daughter of una enemy - Buhari.
Pmb may not be perfect but among Nigerian leaders alive, he is the most honest. Who ministers the petroleum sector as a young military officer but refuses to own a filling station nor an oil license nor took any special gift except a Muhammadu Buhari?
His second incarnation in the petroleum sector PTF chairman was also an harvest of blessings which birthed so many projects and ideals like the Dora Akunyili's NAFDAC. Once again Buhari left a clean record all through .
So as a Buhari , an expresident ,general and cattle farmer whose wife makes more money legitimately cant wear designers nor send his children to school in the UK? Tell the world he sponsored his children with the proceeds of corruption citing dates,places and accounts as many VIPs are being exposed presently.

When nothing could be pinned on Buhari pre 2015 elections, did you enemies of Nigeria try to assassinate pmb in Kaduna in 2014?
We ordinary Nigerians funded APC ,if you have any contrary view bring your evidence here.

Babacele:
each time i expose your hate filled propaganda, you come up with another one. Yes thieving elites who are finding it difficult for the first/second ( the first time being Buhari's too) time in the history of this country to madloot easily . We even hear say una Oga IBB through Dokpesi don launch another corruption coven APDA to which all of you remnants of corruption can run to before we finally put you all in your ignoble places for una crimes.

Halima is an independent human being and only God knows how love operates. It shows how utterly petty you to drag her into this. I was expecting you to say that the daughter of an ex president was involved in one crime or the other . Her only sin is being the daughter of una enemy - Buhari.
Pmb may not be perfect but among Nigerian leaders alive, he is the most honest. Who ministers the petroleum sector as a young military officer but refuses to own a filling station nor an oil license nor took any special gift except a Muhammadu Buhari?
His second incarnation in the petroleum sector PTF chairman was also an harvest of blessings which birthed so many projects and ideals like the Dora Akunyili's NAFDAC. Once again Buhari left a clean record all through .
So as a Buhari , an expresident ,general and cattle farmer whose wife makes more money legitimately cant wear designers nor send his children to school in the UK? Tell the world he sponsored his children with the proceeds of corruption citing dates,places and accounts as many VIPs are being exposed presently.

When nothing could be pinned on Buhari pre 2015 elections, did you enemies of Nigeria try to assassinate pmb in Kaduna in 2014?
We ordinary Nigerians funded APC ,if you have any contrary view bring your evidence here.

You are so redundant, gullible and stupid his wife makes enough for their children but he couldnt borrow privately and quietly from her? He had to make himself appear like he is modest and make up a story about how he was scrambling for money. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell to you.
Awww poor Halima fell in love with a man whosefather has stolen billions out of one of the poorest states in Nigeria. Borno.
You speak of IBB and you mention oil licences again another one of his daughter married to someone who lives off Ibb corrupt's administration and arbitrary oil bloc allocations .
Poor innoncent Buhari he hates corruption , he is not enamored by money it is only his daughters that fall randomly madly and completely in love with people who livelthood has caused Nigeria to be such an economic disaster. He refuses girlfts. He refuses gifts for himself but doesnt mind his family members lifestyle being sustaindled by stolen money. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that I can't help you.
He hates corruption so much that mingles, associate and intermarry with these looters. You are the company you keep.
And what does his so called good character have done for nigerians so far are we not in a middle of a recession right now?
You are not even embarrassed to mention his first tenure ,he overthrew someone who had been democratically elected only to become an economic disaster himself. Fast forward 30 plus years later he is a failure once again.
Out of this great Nation if this dinosaur is the only honest and qualified person you can find to lead it we are in trouble.
Instead of looking to the future and expect excellence ,we look to the past accept and for mediocrity in a person like Buhari.

Debatesmartly:
You are so redundant, gullible and stupid his wife makes enough for their children but he couldnt borrow privately and quietly from her? He had to make himself appear like he is modest and make up a story about how he was scrambling for money. If you believe that I have a bridge to sell to you.
Awww poor Halima fell in love with a man whosefather has stolen billions out of one of the poorest states in Nigeria. Borno.
You speak of IBB and you mention oil licences again another one of his daughter married to someone who lives off Ibb corrupt's administration and arbitrary oil bloc allocations .
Poor innoncent Buhari he hates corruption , he is not enamored by money it is only his daughters that fall randomly madly and completely in love with people who livelthood has caused Nigeria to be such an economic disaster. He refuses girlfts. He refuses gifts for himself but doesnt mind his family members lifestyle being sustaindled by stolen money. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that I can't help you.
He hates corruption so much that mingles, associate and intermarry with these looters. You are the company you keep.
And what does his so called good character have done for nigerians so far are we not in a middle of a recession right now?
You are not even embarrassed to mention his first tenure ,he overthrew someone who had been democratically elected only to become an economic disaster himself. Fast forward 30 plus years later he is a failure once again.
Out of this great Nation if this dinosaur is the only honest and qualified person you can find to lead it we are in trouble.
Instead of looking to the future and expect excellence ,we look to the past accept and for mediocrity in a person like Buhari.

if you ain't stewpid and mischievous, why can't you tell us how PMB should live his private life? When your attempts and lies have been exposed the next thing is to go rogue and become irrational ,so if we can't get the man let's smear his daughters. Even if Jesus were PMB ,you lots would say " why did you call yourself the king of Jews?": a sorta give a dog a bad just to get it hanged! But we Nigerians trust him and his records are top notch. Prove to the world that corruption proceeds get to PMB through Halima an independent person . What lifestyles? mention them with dates,places and persons?


Go ask your elders why is it that each time the nation is about to collapse in the past 40 years Dr Buhari is always called to come and save her? Also ask 30 years later after the ignoble rule of PDP , Nigerians once again voted PMB to come and salvage the country once again from the mess PDP had left behind as predicted by Ponzi Okonjo iweala when she said, in 2014, we should prepare for their recession when Gej started borrowing to pay salaries the way Shagari told us to prepare for austerity ? When you steal $43m and keep in a toilet in ikoyi the economy go appreciate? Shame on all of you!!

Super1Star:
Whatever motivated him to speak is his business.

The fundamentals is that constitution review to recognise national confab, referendum, plebiscite and secession is the ONLY WAY to go.

Threat of secession will not move anybody, because it is an Armageddon even Nnamid Kunnu, the Merlin of Biafrau.d will not dare to venture into.

At last you are all coming to your senses. As far back as April 1994 we told all of you restructuring is the only way. Rather than support it, all the regions went against it and you are now all back to the same square 1 we provided as the only solution 23years ago.

This is was the Yorubas advise 23years ago that you are all just coming to terms with:

my yoruba muslim brother 50 years ago d Biafra reached aburi accord with nigeria, but gowon and our very own rat poison legend awolowo rejected it

ejanla077:
my yoruba muslim brother 50 years ago d Biafra reached aburi accord with nigeria, but gowon and our very own rat poison legend awolowo rejected it

My Igbo Jewish friend, Awolowo saw what Zik did not see in 1956 and he proposed that the secession clause be included int he OCnstitution being drafted. As usual the myopic Igbo greatest man kicked against it and connived with the British and Ahmadu Bello to prevent it.

This is Zik in his own voice, when he was still sane:

NN: Before I begin to ask you questions on your manifesto, I want to touch on one more thing. In both his network and West German television interview, the Head of State [General Olusegun Obasanjo] condemned all old politicians. He said the old politicians are responsible for our ills. Do you agree?

ZIK: With respect, I don’t. I feel that his speech writers or whoever is responsible for the final draft of his speech, misconceived the whole idea by generalizing. If he has said that many politicians, or some politicians he would be correct but he made a sweeping generalization. I don’t feel I am a saint or perfect, but if you study my history in the last 30 years of this country’s political development, you will find that most of the things I stood for, which my opponents opposed are the basis of what the present Federal Military Government has endorsed, and which is the basis of the new constitution.



Now, how can you turn round now to say that all of us are responsible? Let me give you examples. In 1945, the Richard’s Constitution was promulgated. I opposed the division of Nigeria into three parts. I felt that regionalism was not in the interest of Nigeria and that it would lead to provincialism and parochialism. It means that we began to think in terms of our region and not of one Nigeria.

Then, I coined the concept of one Nigeria and the slogan ‘One Nigeria’. But is that not what we fought for in the civil war and is it not the basis of our new constitution?

Well, if in 1945 my contemporaries felt that I was wrong and in 1949 conference at Ibadan, this Richard’s Constitution was endorsed and my party submitted a minority report which was brushed aside and 30 years later, the concept is found to be correct, don’t you think it is unfair to judge those of us who fought 30 years ago for one Nigeria with those who oppose One Nigeria?

NN: If I may take you on. The principle of what you supported is being vindicated alright. But what actually happened in practice? People say that NCNC was vehemently opposed to the creation of what are now the Cross River and Rivers States. In other words there seems to be a contradiction between principles and practice.

ZIK: That was propaganda. It is wrong. The NCNC supported the creation of Calabar States, Ogoja State and Rivers State but not to lump the three together, because if you do that you will have permanent minorities. Again on the question of secession. In 1953 the NPC under the leadership of my good friend, the late Sardauna, threatened to secede from the federation unless their 6-point proposals were adhered to. I had to use personal diplomacy. We had been personal friends since 1940. So, I saw Sir Ahmadu Bello and prevailed upon him that the unity of this country was greater than himself and myself and the other people too helped so that the North shifted grounds and agreed and so the country was saved. That was in 1953.

Again, however, when the 1954 constitution conference started, my good friend, Chief Obafemi Awolowo tabled a motion to the effect that in the new constitution, provision should be made that any state which feels like seceding should do so. I was opposed to it and said ‘no’ and said that once we have a federation, we are indivisible and perpetual. That was when we began to use that expression - ‘The Indivisibility and perpetuity of the federation’ - and that to secede would amount to treason. And so, a debate ensued.

The Secretary of State then was Oliver Littleton, later Lord Chandos and he was very much interested and that was his first time in saying that the people of African descent were people actually debating at a high level. So a full day was given to Chief Awolowo to make his points. He spoke brilliantly as a lawyer. He made his points why secession should be incorporated in the constitution. He cited the case of the Soviet Union which is a federation, and that secession is written there so that any state in the Soviet Union can secede at will.
He also cited the case of Western Australia and eventually he finished his case and was applauded. We adjourned. The next day, I had to reply. I availed myself of the opportunity to, well, demolish the arguments of my friend and I cited the case of United States which based its constitution on that of the Swiss Confederation. That is Switzerland. I pointed out a case, I think, that of Texas versus White, where Mr. Salmon Chase, the Chief Justice laid down the principle - he was really an arbiter - that the union was intended to be perpetual and indivisible and that any attempt to divide the union by secession was treasonable.

The North (NPC) supported Action Group. The question was then: Should we have secession? The Colonial Office came to our rescue. You know, the usual principle of Britain - ‘divide and rule’ (laughs) but this time, it was in our favour. So, the colonial office backed us. Lord Chandos said that on the face of the arguments before him it would be suicidal to incorporate secession in our constitution and that is why we have section 86 in our constitution that if any region or state should secede, then it will be an act of treason and that was what led to this war, because Col. Ojukwu seceded and so violated the constitution.

Now, if in 1954 I, as a politician fought against secession and won against Chief Awolowo and others who were in favour of secession, don’t you see that the Head of State won’t be fair to me in saying that the politicians of pre-1966 were responsible for the downfall of the republic?

If the clause had been included, would there have been a need to go on the self destruct war of 1966 and would there have been any need for Aburi or Saburi Accord?

Words of Advice -- Igbos should always learn to see beyond now!!!!

Babacele:
if you ain't stewpid and mischievous, why can't you tell us how PMB should live his private life? When your attempts and lies have been exposed the next thing is to go rogue and become irrational ,so if we can't get the man let's smear his daughters. Even if Jesus were PMB ,you lots would say " why did you call yourself the king of Jews?": a sorta give a dog a bad just to get it hanged! But we Nigerians trust him and his records are top notch. Prove to the world that corruption proceeds get to PMB through Halima an independent person . What lifestyles? mention them with dates,places and persons?


Go ask your elders why is it that each time the nation is about to collapse in the past 40 years Dr Buhari is always called to come and save her? Also ask 30 years later after the ignoble rule of PDP , Nigerians once again voted PMB to come and salvage the country once again from the mess PDP had left behind as predicted by Ponzi Okonjo iweala when she said, in 2014, we should prepare for their recession when Gej started borrowing to pay salaries the way Shagari told us to prepare for austerity ? When you steal $43m and keep in a toilet in ikoyi the economy go appreciate? Shame on all of you!!

You brought up Buhari 's character and honesty ,how am i smearing his daughters I am stating facts? I find ironic that Buhari hates corruption and everything it has cost Nigeria to end up being tied by marriage and blood through his grand children with some of Nigeria's of biggest thieves.
His own children are being with looted funds and I am supposed to believe this man in noble in character.
The f'ing irony Buhari to save Nigeria from collapsing ?
An amateur who arrived ill prepared ,when you want your plan to save Nigeria to succeed because the situation is dire and need to be taken care of urgently for the country not collapse you come prepared. You don't wait 6 months to nominate a cabinet with filled idiotic amateurs.
Save nigeria from collapse is that why in June 2017 the budget is not signed yet ?
Blame PDP all you want it just shows the level and depth of your stupidity.
You hate pdp so much that you the citizen funded a party of Apc who is composed 80 % of the same politicians you critize that used to be PDP and the havoc they created in Nigeria.
You love Buhari more than you love Nigeria
You put a man before your country
You idolize a man
He is there to serve us Nigerians not for us to worship him.
I dare you to find any of posts of mine where i am blindly defending Gej or Pdp or all the bastards that have dragged this country down like you are defending Buhari's mediocrity, failures and hypocrisy.
You are intellectually inferior
You are complete fool I will no longer respond to you.

bappahman:
www.punchng.com/restructuring-igbo-reps-seek-national-referend

Now u are talking. Anything done before this step is signed into law is a waste of time.