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Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by kitaatita: 7:58am On Jun 07, 2017
Naira will soon crash. The Bureau de Change is owned, financed and sustained by CBN officials and politicians. They won't allow the Naira to gain against the dollar.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Souljaboi1: 7:59am On Jun 07, 2017
Primebuilders:
Which one is BDC rate and parallel market rate and black market rate. I tot is official rate (bank rate) and black market rate
Beats me too.

Davide470, please avail us an answer
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by aolawale025: 8:00am On Jun 07, 2017
Why must BDCs depend on the CBN. They should be able to flow with the market
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Owoloku1: 8:01am On Jun 07, 2017
DollarAngel:
USELESS COUNTRY, GIANT OF AFRICA, WITHOUT STABLE ELECTRICITY, NATIONAL AIRPORT, OR GOOD RAILWAY SYSTEM, NIGERIA IS AN UNFORTUNATE COUNTRY
K
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by rexlims(m): 8:04am On Jun 07, 2017
9japrof:
I was among those that criticised the move by the C.B.N to pump dollars into the market.

Looks like the intended objectives is working, if what it takes to bring the naira/dollar rates low means pumping dollars into the market so be it.

Please let it not be one step forward, three steps backward....
THIS IS SHORT TERM, HAVE U CONSIDERED THE LONG TERM EFFECT OF THIS POLICY?
IF U CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTIONS, THEN YOU SEE WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY
1. DO NIGERIA AS A COUNTRY PRINT DOLLAR NOTES?
2. HOW IS OUR TRADE BALANCE?
3. HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE AS FOREIGN RESERVE?
4. ARE WE INVESTING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS OR CONSUMER GOODS?

THE LIST IS ENDLESS.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by igbsam(m): 8:06am On Jun 07, 2017
greenermodels:
(1)the rate is still very high, we won't notice any significant fall in the prices of imported goods until it hits atleast #210, even that is higher than the rate Buhari met it.
(2)long-term defense of the currency is frowned at by all economics, proper economic policies is needed and we really don't have any in implementation right now.
It can't go down to that amount anymore cos we rely on crude oil trade to keep our reserve floating. So long the price of oil is not the same amount as at then, don't expect the dollar to trade at that amount. Crude oil price played a vital role in all this.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Firgemachar: 8:12am On Jun 07, 2017
Oya, speculators modath, EgunMogaji, Onatisi and wailer LordAdam, please come and spin this as mere propaganda. grin

Osinbajo-led FG is winning! cool

Glory be to God in the highest!! cool
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by alizma: 8:12am On Jun 07, 2017
john1035:
The worst exchange rate policy is what we practise. we can never move forward like this
sorry we are already moving forward, you can continue to sleep behind us
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by oyienootieno: 8:13am On Jun 07, 2017
Ngasky:
Good development.
When the current government devalued naira I thought they are making a grave mistake, but thank God I was proven wrong.
The rallying of naira is in the interest of Nigeria. And from the way things are going when the dangote's refinery started production the dollar will fall to below 300 or even possibly below 200. Because the major drain on dollar exchange in Nigeria is petroleum and petro allied products. So we won't spend dollars on them anymore, the demand will fall.
Also with time the refinery will produce excess to sell to neighboring countries or even to southern American markets thereby earning more dollars to Nigerian central bank.
Another good initiative policy is the made in Nigeria policy, now with the homegrown rice production it will further reduce the demand for foreign currency, all in all the two most foreign currency demand commodity will no longer need dollars so we should only use dollars for machinery and parts.
From the foregoing Nigeria will be great it is just a matter of consistency and determination by the successive governments.
Long live FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
Forget Dangote abeg. He has never made anything competitive including Sugar, Salt and Cement.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by 9japrof(m): 8:14am On Jun 07, 2017
rexlims:
THIS IS SHORT TERM, HAVE U CONSIDERED THE LONG TERM EFFECT OF THIS POLICY?
IF U CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTIONS, THEN YOU SEE WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY
1. DO NIGERIA AS A COUNTRY PRINT DOLLAR NOTES?
2. HOW IS OUR TRADE BALANCE?
3. HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE AS FOREIGN RESERVE?
4. ARE WE INVESTING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS OR CONSUMER GOODS?

THE LIST IS ENDLESS.
To be fair, I perfectly understand your arguments, this policy is not sustainable. It can only be practiced cos the price of oil is recovering that is shoring up our reserves.

But Nigeria in itself is a complicated entity that defies all odds, defies any reasonable logic else I don't see any explanation to the sharing of ECA monthly when there are capital projects such money should be pumped into.

Shey you read somewhere that Nigeria accrued more trillion debts in the past two years?
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by seguno2: 8:18am On Jun 07, 2017
Do we still have Buhari's five exchange rates?
Or Osinbajo has reduced the number thus making it difficult for the cabal in charge of round tripping, which was the root cause of the distortion and gaps between the banks and BDCs?
Who knows?
Who has the answer?
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Firgemachar: 8:20am On Jun 07, 2017
Ngasky:
Good development.
When the current government devalued naira I thought they are making a grave mistake, but thank God I was proven wrong.
The rallying of naira is in the interest of Nigeria. And from the way things are going when the dangote's refinery started production the dollar will fall to below 300 or even possibly below 200. Because the major drain on dollar exchange in Nigeria is petroleum and petro allied products. So we won't spend dollars on them anymore, the demand will fall.
Also with time the refinery will produce excess to sell to neighboring countries or even to southern American markets thereby earning more dollars to Nigerian central bank.
Another good initiative policy is the made in Nigeria policy, now with the homegrown rice production it will further reduce the demand for foreign currency, all in all the two most foreign currency demand commodity will no longer need dollars so we should only use dollars for machinery and parts.
From the foregoing Nigeria will be great it is just a matter of consistency and determination by the successive governments.
Long live FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
God bless you my brother!

This is what speculators fail to realise. They are being carefully pushed to the slaughter slab. grin

I can't wait for Dangote refinery to resume operations. smiley
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by seguno2: 8:22am On Jun 07, 2017
Hillarie:
N1 =$1 soon..

Am I wrong for trying to reach the things that I can't see?
No, you are not wrong.
One needs an overdose of faith to believe in change that is packaged and sold by confirmed and certified fraudulently corrupt people in APC.
Do you have it- overdose of faith?
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by seguno2: 8:27am On Jun 07, 2017
Ngasky:
Good development.
When the current government devalued naira I thought they are making a grave mistake, but thank God I was proven wrong.
The rallying of naira is in the interest of Nigeria. And from the way things are going when the dangote's refinery started production the dollar will fall to below 300 or even possibly below 200. Because the major drain on dollar exchange in Nigeria is petroleum and petro allied products. So we won't spend dollars on them anymore, the demand will fall.
Also with time the refinery will produce excess to sell to neighboring countries or even to southern American markets thereby earning more dollars to Nigerian central bank.
Another good initiative policy is the made in Nigeria policy, now with the homegrown rice production it will further reduce the demand for foreign currency, all in all the two most foreign currency demand commodity will no longer need dollars so we should only use dollars for machinery and parts.
From the foregoing Nigeria will be great it is just a matter of consistency and determination by the successive governments.
Long live FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
If dangote does not pay his taxes fully and promptly, Nigeria won't be great.
No.
Dangote will be great.
Nigeria will remain a rotten hell from where those who can are running away from while those who cannot complain only and pray for God to come down to fix problems that He has given them the brains to fix.
Dumb?
No.
Dumber?
No.
Dumbest?
Yes. Definitely.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by verygudbadguy(m): 8:28am On Jun 07, 2017
Primebuilders:
Which one is BDC rate and parallel market rate and black market rate. I tot is official rate (bank rate) and black market rate
As it stands, we have three rates in Nigeria. They are:
1. Official inter-bank rate
2. BDC rate
3. Parallel market rate.

The official inter-bank is fixed by the CBN to ensure a uniform rate across banks. The BDC rate is also fixed by the CBN and it has been pegged at 360 for sometime now. It is however under review as it is almost the same as the black market. The Parallel market otherwise known as black market, is determined by the forces of demand and supply.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by natznext(m): 8:39am On Jun 07, 2017
Ngasky:
Good development.
When the current government devalued naira I thought they are making a grave mistake, but thank God I was proven wrong.
The rallying of naira is in the interest of Nigeria. And from the way things are going when the dangote's refinery started production the dollar will fall to below 300 or even possibly below 200. Because the major drain on dollar exchange in Nigeria is petroleum and petro allied products. So we won't spend dollars on them anymore, the demand will fall.
Also with time the refinery will produce excess to sell to neighboring countries or even to southern American markets thereby earning more dollars to Nigerian central bank.
Another good initiative policy is the made in Nigeria policy, now with the homegrown rice production it will further reduce the demand for foreign currency, all in all the two most foreign currency demand commodity will no longer need dollars so we should only use dollars for machinery and parts.
From the foregoing Nigeria will be great it is just a matter of consistency and determination by the successive governments.
Long live FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
E easy to just type am oo, you need start to fast to experience am oo, nothing is normal/Logical here oo
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Hillarie(m): 8:39am On Jun 07, 2017
seguno2:
No, you are not wrong.
One needs an overdose of faith to believe in change that is packaged and sold by confirmed and certified fraudulently corrupt people in APC.
Do you have it- overdose of faith?
Hehe.. Overdose kwa?
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Okuda(m): 8:45am On Jun 07, 2017
Ngasky:
Good development.
When the current government devalued naira I thought they are making a grave mistake, but thank God I was proven wrong.
The rallying of naira is in the interest of Nigeria. And from the way things are going when the dangote's refinery started production the dollar will fall to below 300 or even possibly below 200. Because the major drain on dollar exchange in Nigeria is petroleum and petro allied products. So we won't spend dollars on them anymore, the demand will fall.
Also with time the refinery will produce excess to sell to neighboring countries or even to southern American markets thereby earning more dollars to Nigerian central bank.
Another good initiative policy is the made in Nigeria policy, now with the homegrown rice production it will further reduce the demand for foreign currency, all in all the two most foreign currency demand commodity will no longer need dollars so we should only use dollars for machinery and parts.
From the foregoing Nigeria will be great it is just a matter of consistency and determination by the successive governments.
Long live FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
this is what you are hoping for. when the world is moving to electric powered vehicles, Solar and Biogas. I pity Nigeria.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by natznext(m): 8:47am On Jun 07, 2017
greenermodels:
(1)the rate is still very high, we won't notice any significant fall in the prices of imported goods until it hits atleast #210, even that is higher than the rate Buhari met it.
(2)long-term defense of the currency is frowned at by all economics, proper economic policies is needed and we really don't have any in implementation right now.
Defense of the currency isn't bad if there're plans for longterm permanent solutions, plans to boost local production, reduce import and also increase exports
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by franzis(m): 8:50am On Jun 07, 2017
dollar is still 370-372 naira black market /bdc rate , not everyone can get it t that lower parallel rate
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by IamaNigerianGuy(m): 8:56am On Jun 07, 2017
Benjom:
It can only get better grin grin grin

What happens in the coming days will prove the effectiveness of this new infamous measure though.
.
What can only get better?
Can't you read ?
" the rally is dependent on Nigeria selling down her foreign exchange reserves...
How is that good news?
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by erico2k2(m): 8:56am On Jun 07, 2017
Ngasky:
Good development.
When the current government devalued naira I thought they are making a grave mistake, but thank God I was proven wrong.
The rallying of naira is in the interest of Nigeria. And from the way things are going when the dangote's refinery started production the dollar will fall to below 300 or even possibly below 200. Because the major drain on dollar exchange in Nigeria is petroleum and petro allied products. So we won't spend dollars on them anymore, the demand will fall.
Also with time the refinery will produce excess to sell to neighboring countries or even to southern American markets thereby earning more dollars to Nigerian central bank.
Another good initiative policy is the made in Nigeria policy, now with the homegrown rice production it will further reduce the demand for foreign currency, all in all the two most foreign currency demand commodity will no longer need dollars so we should only use dollars for machinery and parts.
From the foregoing Nigeria will be great it is just a matter of consistency and determination by the successive governments.
Long live FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
The only 2day out of this hole is when we stop pegging dollars to Oil .
Do you think petrol and oil marketer give a damn about forex ? Have you ever hear them complain by any media About forex shortage ?
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by gberra: 8:59am On Jun 07, 2017
Good News is becoming an orphan these days. Are wailers already committing mass suicide? grin
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by kjhova(m): 9:26am On Jun 07, 2017
john1035:
The worst exchange rate policy is what we practise. we can never move forward like this
Chief, don't just end your expose on a negative note.

Please tell us what the best exchange rate policy is and how we can go about bringing it to reality.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Ngasky(m): 9:26am On Jun 07, 2017
oyienootieno:
Forget Dangote abeg. He has never made anything competitive including Sugar, Salt and Cement.
I don't really like dangote but the real truth is he is the only rich Nigerian that believed in this country. There was a time he upgraded his sugar factory but before doing that he produced in excess to cater for 30 days while the downtime for the upgrade is 10 days, immediately the marketers heard that the work has started they triple the price of sugar in the market. He came out and explained to people that the price from factory does not change and there is enough for whole 30 days while his work will only be for 10 days still the marketers refuse to reduce. To cut the story short He has to give his depot the green light to sell to individuals buying cups or bags which before then he only sale to dealers
If only our rich and super thieves can be like him things would have been better for we common Nigerians.
Also ask why is he expanding to other African countries if Nigerian government is the one helping him with monopoly? He believed in making money and that's normal I believed even you would wish to be him right? tongue
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Ngasky(m): 9:31am On Jun 07, 2017
erico2k2:
The only 2day out of this hole is when we stop pegging dollars to Oil .
Do you think petrol and oil marketer give a damn about forex ? Have you ever hear them complain by any media About forex shortage ?
They do because more than 50% of dollars released by CBN goes to fuel import. And unfortunately dollar is the international currency for transaction, so unless another currency or system was adopted by entire worldwe have to deal on dollars
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by ifyain: 9:32am On Jun 07, 2017
NwaAmaikpe:
angry

Naija's FX is just like women...

Very difficult to understand or predict
It is easy to understand, just like women so long as you keep on spending money on her. but for how long? CBN will eventually run out of DOLLAR and we will be back to square one. Money can not buy love.
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Thatitan234(m): 9:32am On Jun 07, 2017
greenermodels:
(1)the rate is still very high, we won't notice any significant fall in the prices of imported goods until it hits atleast #210, even that is higher than the rate Buhari met it.
(2)long-term defense of the currency is frowned at by all economics, proper economic policies is needed and we really don't have any in implementation right now.
Note that of may 2015, USD was over 220naira

Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Ngasky(m): 9:40am On Jun 07, 2017
Okuda:
this is what you are hoping for. when the world is moving to electric powered vehicles, Solar and Biogas. I pity Nigeria.
You are looking at atlest 50 years of aggressive policy to achieve such vehicles worldwide.
I have a question you say electric powered vehicles, what is used to power the power stations that will give you the electric power to use in your vehicle? 70 % number of Power stations worldwide are using gasoline.
And demand for food will not allow biogas to go far. The land for cultivation is limited so the choice is either plant food and cash crops for feeding human beings and animal or crops for getting ethanol to power vehicles?
You know what the answer will be FOOD SECURITY
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Nobody: 9:43am On Jun 07, 2017
smiley
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by Ngasky(m): 9:44am On Jun 07, 2017
natznext:
E easy to just type am oo, you need start to fast to experience am oo, nothing is normal/Logical here oo
So tell me the logic. Maybe it is the village witches at work here
Re: FOREX Users Dump BDCs As Naira/dollar Rates Converge by 989900: 9:56am On Jun 07, 2017
It was inevitable . . . we knew this . . . contrary to contrary opinions.
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