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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by analice107: 2:30pm On Jun 11, 2017
proudafrogal:
you should ask your brother in Christ Ebuka.
I didn't hear it from him, but from you. Go ahead and tell me is Allah and Yahweh are the same.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by analice107: 2:31pm On Jun 11, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Allah is Jesus' father. Christians go to church to worship Allah. Muslims go to mosque to worship Yahweh. The Holy Spirit is what happens when Jesus ejaculates. tongue
Poor you.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by analice107: 2:32pm On Jun 11, 2017
Ishilove:
You're doing a fantastic job putting them and their demons in their proper place. grin
Satan will so laugh at them when this is finally over.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jun 11, 2017
[b][/b]
analice107:
I didn't hear it from him, but from you. Go ahead and tell me is Allah and Yahweh are the same.
KingEbukasBlog:
Yahweh , Allah are the same being . God is the pinnacle of moral perfection . You just rehashed the Euthypyro dilemma - its a false dilemma . God does not create moral laws arbitrarily , God's nature is the standard for objective morals , value and duties - all will be judged in accordance to the nature of God .
analice107:
I didn't hear it from him, but from you. Go ahead and tell me is Allah and Yahweh are the same.
see his post below
check the 1st sentence
KingEbukasBlog:
Yahweh , Allah are the same being . God is the pinnacle of moral perfection . You just rehashed the Euthypyro dilemma - its a false dilemma . God does not create moral laws arbitrarily , God's nature is the standard for objective morals , value and duties - all will be judged in accordance to the nature of God .
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 3:55pm On Jun 11, 2017
proudafrogal:
[b][/b]

see his post below
check the 1st sentence
Its the same God oo . In Islam , Adam , Abraham , even Jesus are seen as prophets . Muhammed is then viewed as the last prophet of God who totally reforms how God is .

How can Adam , Abraham worship Yahweh and recognize Him as their one and only God but these same individuals worshiped and served a totally different God in Islam ? Does that make any sense ?

Why some Christians say they are different beings is that Islam apparently has a defamatory conception of God .

Pay attention carefully :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJK3irA_sQA
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 4:29pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Its the same God oo . In Islam , Adam , Abraham , even Jesus are seen as prophets . Muhammed is then viewed as the last prophet of God who totally reforms how God is .

How can Adam , Abraham worship Yahweh and recognize Him as their one and only God but these same individuals worshiped and served a totally different God in Islam ? Does that make any sense ?

Why some Christians say they are different beings is that Islam apparently has a defamatory conception of God .

Pay attention carefully :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJK3irA_sQA
ok I ve heard.

you should address that to analice
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:33pm On Jun 11, 2017
proudafrogal:
ok I ve heard.

you should address that to analice
Alright

So are you an atheist ?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 4:53pm On Jun 11, 2017
Abraham and Adam were Christians? Lmao.
Yahweh - God of Judaism. No son. According to the Jews.

Allah - God of Islam. God having a son is a blasphemy. Jesus is a prophet

Yahweh - Christian version has a Son attached.

Bleep that though. They are all the same.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 5:14pm On Jun 11, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Abraham and Adam were Christians? Lmao.
Yahweh - God of Judaism. No son. According to the Jews.

Allah - God of Islam. God having a son is a blasphemy. Jesus is a prophet

Yahweh - Christian version has a Son attached.

Bleep that though. They are all the same.
You are shamelessly ignorant grin

The three religions have different conceptions of the same God .

Islam and Judaism reject Christ because they can't believe that the conscious eternal cosmic designer would incarnate as man - according to them , its logically impossible . Christ is seen as a false Messiah in Judaism .

God reveals Himself in Christianity as having a triune nature - Islam and Judaism reject this as a false revelation .

Judaism rejects Islamic doctrine because they are descendants of a slave woman , Gentiles , and their fiery enemies . The Jews couldn't accept that a Gentile could be a prophet of Yahweh . And Muhammed taught that Adam , Jesus and even Lot and some others were prophets while Judaism does not view these people as prophets .

Don't use humor and ridicule to mask your ignorance bro . We can see through smoke screens tongue
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 5:57pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Alright
So are you an atheist ?
Agnostic /skeptic
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 6:29pm On Jun 11, 2017
proudafrogal:
Agnostic /skeptic
Ok . What are you actually skeptical about ? God's existence or Religion ?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by analice107: 6:35pm On Jun 11, 2017
proudafrogal:
[b][/b]

see his post below
check the 1st sentence
why are you evading the point you raised? My position is, Allah is not the same with Yahweh. What is yours? Didn't you raise this issue because Ebuka says they are different?
I want to hear you say what you think, forget what we say, What do you say?

You know you'd fall flat on your face that's why you keep evading the point.

Tell me, is allah the same as Yahweh?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 6:39pm On Jun 11, 2017
cheesy
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 6:41pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
You are shamelessly ignorant grin

The three religions have different conceptions of the same God .

Islam and Judaism reject Christ because they can't believe that the conscious eternal cosmic designer would incarnate as man - according to them , its logically impossible . Christ is seen as a false Messiah in Judaism .

God reveals Himself in Christianity as having a triune nature - Islam and Judaism reject this as a false revelation .

Judaism rejects Islamic doctrine because they are descendants of a slave woman , Gentiles , and their fiery enemies . The Jews couldn't accept that a Gentile could be a prophet of Yahweh . And Muhammed taught that Adam , Jesus and even Lot and some others were prophets while Judaism does not view these people as prophets .

Don't use humor and ridicule to mask your ignorance bro . We can see through smoke screens tongue
So this God that allegedly created the whole universe decided to come as a human being and reside in the middle east and have himself killed as a sacrifice unto himself? Very interesting.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 6:50pm On Jun 11, 2017
analice107:
why are you evading the point you raised? My position is, Allah is not the same with Yahweh. What is yours? Didn't you raise this issue because Ebuka says they are different?
I want to hear you say what you think, forget what we say, What do you say?

You know you'd fall flat on your face that's why you keep evading the point.

Tell me, is allah the same as Yahweh?
I'm not evading. I know you and some other Christians dont think Allah and Yahweh are the same. I was surprised to see Ebuka claim they are the same that's why I called ur attention.

personally even when I identified as Christian I didn't think they where the same I used to argue prophet Mohamed just invented Allah the way he did just to convince Jews and Christians.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 6:51pm On Jun 11, 2017
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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by frank317: 6:52pm On Jun 11, 2017
analice107:
why are you evading the point you raised? My position is, Allah is not the same with Yahweh. What is yours? Didn't you raise this issue because Ebuka says they are different?
I want to hear you say what you think, forget what we say, What do you say?

You know you'd fall flat on your face that's why you keep evading the point.

Tell me, is allah the same as Yahweh?
I don't know why you feel u are making a big point...

The point here is both Allah and Yaweh are man made concept. That's why u and ebuka can't get it straight.

Both of you claim to know the same God, yet you have a different concept of the so called God. This is a big proof Yahweh or Allah is a man made idea.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 6:55pm On Jun 11, 2017
frank317:
I don't know why you feel u are making a big point...

The point here is both Allah and Yaweh are man made concept. That's why u and ebuka can't get it straight.

Both of you claim to know the same God, yet you have a different concept of the so called God. This is a big proof Yahweh or Allah is a man made idea.
I tire o
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by sonofluc1fer: 7:10pm On Jun 11, 2017
frank317:
Both of you claim to know the same God, yet you have a different concept of the so called God. .
Allah wrote the Bible. Yahweh wrote the Quran. 1 God.
grin

1 God, multiple forms. Allah sent the Holy Spirit to Jesus. Muahmmed is Yahweh's servant.

Different concepts my as.. These were clearly different deities.

Remember the 1st commandment from Allah - "Thou shall worship no other concept before me"

Baal was just another concept. Like Yahweh. And Allah. No difference at all. Concepts. Yahweh is a concept.
grin grin

At least analice107 knows better..
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 7:26pm On Jun 11, 2017
dalaman:
So this God that allegedly created the whole universe decided to come as a human being and reside in the middle east and have himself killed as a sacrifice unto himself? Very interesting.
So matter , consciousness , complexity , order , intelligence all came from nothingness without a creator ? Very interesting .
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by analice107: 7:37pm On Jun 11, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Allah wrote the Bible. Yahweh wrote the Quran. 1 God.
grin

1 God, multiple forms. Allah sent the Holy Spirit to Jesus. Muahmmed is Yahweh's servant.

Different concepts my as.. These were clearly different deities.

Remember the 1st commandment from Allah - "Thou shall worship no other concept before me"

Baal was just another concept. Like Yahweh. And Allah. No difference at all. Concepts. Yahweh is a concept.
grin grin

At least analice107 knows better..
Your case is different. You are dead cold.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by frank317: 7:59pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
So matter , consciousness , complexity , order , intelligence all came from nothingness without a creator ? Very interesting .
Another way of saying... I accept my concept of our origin makes no sense, yours makes no sense too.

Finally we are getting somewhere
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op):
frank317:
Another way of saying... I accept my concept of our origin makes no sense, yours makes no sense too.

Finally we are getting somewhere
He is arguing against revealed theology - knowledge of God through divine revelation. The deists too reject religion and religious beliefs which involves divine revelation . Haven't you seen deists mocking Christian and Islamic beliefs ? Go to their Facebook page and view .

You now understand this , isn't it funny that you have accepted atheism makes no sense ? grin

Now , we have finally gotten somewhere cool : Did the creator who revealed Himself in nature also communicate with man to reveal more details about Himself ?

This was the discussion logical minds had before atheism arrived with its gross stupidity .
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by AHCB: 8:15pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
He is arguing against revealed theology - knowledge of God through divine revelation. The deists too reject religion and religious beliefs which involves divine revelation . Haven't you seen deists mocking Christian and Islamic beliefs ? Go to their Facebook page and view .

You now understand this , isn't it funny that you have accepted atheism makes no sense ? grin

Now , we have finally gotten somewhere cool : Did the creator who revealed Himself in nature also communicated with man to reveal more details about Himself ?

This was the discussion logical minds had before atheism arrived with its gross stupidity .
Hello. Did you swim in the mud today?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by analice107: 8:20pm On Jun 11, 2017
frank317:
I don't know why you feel u are making a big point...

The point here is both Allah and Yaweh are man made concept. That's why u and ebuka can't get it straight.

Both of you claim to know the same God, yet you have a different concept of the so called God. This is a big proof Yahweh or Allah is a man made idea.
And, you believe you have made sense right?
gerrarahia.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 8:26pm On Jun 11, 2017
AHCB:
Hello. Did you swim in the mud today?
Hello , did you do this today ?

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by AHCB: 8:49pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Hello , did you do this today ?

https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous
i'm not an atheist, genius. Didn't I tell you "assumption is the mother of all fuck_ ups?".
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by frank317: 8:50pm On Jun 11, 2017
analice107:
And, you believe you have made sense right?
gerrarahia.
Why are u always angry? This is getting out of handoooooo.

Well, yes, I think I have given u the answer u deserve, this is probably why the best reply u had for me was to throw your normal tantrum.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(op): 8:55pm On Jun 11, 2017
AHCB:
i'm not an atheist, genius. Didn't I tell you "assumption is the mother of all fuck_ ups?".
Alright , I apologize . So what are you then ?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by frank317: 9:04pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
He is arguing against revealed theology - knowledge of God through divine revelation. The deists too reject religion and religious beliefs which involves divine revelation . Haven't you seen deists mocking Christian and Islamic beliefs ? Go to their Facebook page and view .
Tell me more about divine revelation. It's it the sought of misunderstanding u are having with Analice - Allah is Yaweh, Yahweh is not Allah.
And so what if deists mock Christians and Muslims?

You now understand this , isn't it funny that you have accepted atheism makes no sense ? grin
How?

Now , we have finally gotten somewhere cool : Did the creator who revealed Himself in nature also communicate with man to reveal more details about Himself ?
What a question!! Lets establish where the Creator revealed himself to nature first.

This was the discussion logical minds had before atheism arrived with its gross stupidity.
Since when did assumptions become logical mind?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by AHCB: 9:11pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Alright , I apologize . So what are you then ?
Must I be something? I am AHCB_ nothing more, nothing less.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by dalaman: 9:12pm On Jun 11, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
So matter , consciousness , complexity , order , intelligence all came from nothingness without a creator ? Very interesting .
Where did I ever make that claim. I so not know where all.these things came from.neither do you. While I agree that I don't know, you o the other hand accept the assumptions of others who falsely claim that they know. So the creator of the universe came abs was killed by humans as a sacrifice unto himself? Very interesting.
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