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Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by jonbellion(m): 10:08am On Jun 12, 2017 |
Pidgin2:baby do you see ignorance in me too? |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 10:10am On Jun 12, 2017 |
Pidgin2: in think you're oversimplifying this hugely, from my little findings, holding an adopted child doesn't feel as good as holding a child that medically and legally belongs to you! most of those who did adoption before the advent of IVF would've done IVF instead if it were available at the time and they had the means I mean, why do people still give birth when there are still lots of children in orphanages? that kinda sounds like the point you're making then again adoption isn't as easy in developed world as it is in developing/underdeveloped ones, there are so many rules one has to abide by that at the end of the day its easier (read better) to just do IVF instead at the end of it all, it all boils down to "choice" and I won't call their choice "madness" cuz I kinda understand the reason behind it |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by ilynem(m): 10:54am On Jun 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:You have valid points. But having a baby isn't the only thing that can make a woman lose her stature. There are so many of them. I agree with you that there aren't many fat people in show biz but there are people like Jonah Hill and Melissa McCathy who used their "fatness" and incredible acting skills to gain popularity. Jonah has slimmed down and bit and even Melissa but I don't think they will get as many roles as they are getting now if they transformed to a regular muscular guy and shapely girl respectively. I believe (and it is my opinion) that the only reason a lady wouldn't want to have kids by herself for fear of losing her shape is laziness. There are lots of thin, shapely girls on Hollywood with children. Heidi Klum is still one of the most respected models in the world (and probably the richest), and she has four Children!! Beyonce had blue and even got hotter after that and is about to have twins and I bet she will get her figure back after that. Look at Catherine, wife of Prince Williams and it is hard to believe two children have come out of that woman. I know some of them go to the extreme (plastic surgery) to get their figures back, but it can be achieved through proper dieting and exercises. One my sister's friend has had three kids and you will still mistake her for a teenager. She runs a fitness class specially for mothers. So yes, a girl who cares about her career in show biz can get back her figure after pregnancy. Its all about discipline. Surrogacy shouldn't be a choice. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:54am On Jun 12, 2017 |
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Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:59am On Jun 12, 2017 |
jonbellion: This may not end well for you 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by ilynem(m): 11:05am On Jun 12, 2017 |
bennyann:Nice. |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by ilynem(m): 11:07am On Jun 12, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:Yes you can. |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 11:14am On Jun 12, 2017 |
ilynem: yes I agree with most of your points but Beyonce drives my point further did you know that Beyonce was accused to have used a surrogate and used Hollywood prosthetics in place of real pregnancy? check the video on YouTube, you'll see where she actually "gave herself away" when her pregnancy flopped in a very unnatural way, she did eventually posted naked pictures, but who's to say it wasn't well staged just like "makeup free pictures" we see around? secondly, during the birth of Blue Bey and Jay actually got the hospital virtually closed down temporarily, there are allegations that they used a surrogate and they just want to cover it all up! thirdly, they've now built a maternity ward in their own very home! this means they can carry out surrogacy and no one would even suspect truth is that in these days you CAN'T know if these guys actually used surrogates, they have a team of experts that do the cover up if a surrogate would give birth instead of the celebrity and there's a huge difference between someone who became popular and gained roles due to her fatness and someone who gained roles for her thin shape but lost it! both can't be compared, the world of showbiz is extremely competitive that they need all the advantages they can get these people aren't "lazy", if they were they wouldn't be shapely even without childbirth as most of these celebs actually carry out vigorous exercises, diet etc already I would say they instead just don't want to leave anything to chance |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:24am On Jun 12, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: Atheism is 2,500 years old and communist tried using it to solve problems and it turned out to be a blood bath . But the bible has been used to solve many problems . Have you read Norman's book 'The power of positive thinking'? Norman mentioned numerous people whose problems were solved through the knowledge of their bible - depression , low self esteem , marital issues , failure in business , and even mental problems were all solved just by reading the bible . 'I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me; - this passage alone elevates your spirit and invigorates your body . People draw strength and power from the Divine source by just quoting this passage whenever they are weak , in pain , depressed or feeling down or despondent . What are you even saying ?! Gerrahia mehn 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 11:27am On Jun 12, 2017 |
^ the irony of the above post is this thread |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:33am On Jun 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Asking if surrogacy is a sin is not a problem . And the answers given are in harmony with the scriptures . The question was asked because of my understanding of the bible . You too Gerrarahia 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 11:34am On Jun 12, 2017 |
^ the irony is still lost on him |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:38am On Jun 12, 2017 |
^ I thought he understands irony , maybe I was wrong |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by ilynem(m): 11:39am On Jun 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord:Like you said, these are allegations. But I know people who have given birth and gotten their figures back. I have two friends who had children out of wedlock and you wouldn't even know unless you ask. One of then specifically told me that the reason she worked to get her figure back is so she can remain appealing to men because she doesn't want to stay unmarried. She doesn't earn millions from having a nice body, she just wants to stay appealing and she's working for it. So why won't someone who earns millions work for theirs too? If you care about your career in showbiz, you will be disciplined enough to work for your figure. But if you can't do that, then maybe you really do not want children. But if you can't go through that stress, then Bennyann has given a super and more reasonable alternative and that is adoption. Now let me paint a picture for you. A girl with a nice figure and a big career in modeling earning millions of dollars. She wants children but doesn't want to lose her figure because it will affect her career. She has three options. 1. Get pregnant and work hard to get your figure back. 2. If you are too lazy and undisciplined to do that, you can adopt. Adoption even shows what a selfless person you are. 3. Surrogate. What does this tell you? A mother who wouldn't risk her career for a child, a mother who isn't disciplined and hard working enough to get back her figure to save her career after the birth of the child and someone who isn't selfless enough to even consider adoption. If you pick the third option, it simply means you will be a terrible mother and don't deserve that child. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:42am On Jun 12, 2017 |
bennyann: Well said there . I learnt a lot from this . Thank you so much . And thanks , Ishilove I get it now And no , its not me oo . 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:44am On Jun 12, 2017 |
ilynem: You are right . Thanks a lot . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by ilynem(m): 11:46am On Jun 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:You are welcome sir. 1 Like |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 12:06pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
ilynem: I think you're committing a lot of false dichotomy here 1. sounds good but there are those who after birth couldn't get it back! and they most likely tried all they could, you seem to be oversimplifying this by implying hard work is all that's needed, its not that simple!! I know people who couldn't, I attend gym every day except Sunday, I've seen women frustrated about childbirth weight gain that just wouldn't go away no matter how hard they try, these aren't even celebs mind you, just the average woman who wants to keep shape for whatever reason they have and I can never call them lazy as even I admire their dedication how much more a celeb who's source of livelihood is connected to her image? maybe they just don't want to tempt fate by finding out what childbirth does to them this situation is not as simple as you are making it 2 adoption is hardly an option when there's surrogacy, most people would go for surrogacy ahead of adoption and then again you contradicted your own point with your next point about surrogacy, let me show that "A mother who wouldn't risk her career for a child" how does adoption actually solve this? does this mean she's now ready to sacrifice her career for an adopted child if such circumstances come up I've seen parents who don't care for their child and I'm pretty sure you've seen many such around too so I see that as a no point, if someone cares for an adopted baby such a person would most likely care more for their own biological baby, it would be very rare even to a point of impossibility to find someone who cares more for an adopted child than a biological one, there's something about it I think a bit of bias is shinning through here, it seems to me that you're trying hard to paint a caricature of surrogacy developed countries have several stringent rules when it comes to adoption and next to nothing on surrogacy which makes surrogacy a better alternative to adoption cuz legal bullsheeets are very much avoided all in all, I'm not saying I support them or I agree with their choice, I simply say that I understand their choice in the real world its a matter of what works, not opinion of what one deems better humans try to get the easy way as much as possible, technology has given us these easy ways over the years and now its given (certain) celebs surrogacy which has all the advantages they want 1 shape loss risk is hugely lowered 2 no need carrying any baby for 9 months and the health issues that come with it 3 a child that belongs medically and legally to her husband and her while having NO trace to the woman that carried the baby (As far as we know) 3 next to no complications legally so if a celeb does chose surrogacy I fully understand her choice so long the surrogate mother isn't being forced (which is impossible) I see a future where surrogacy is the order of the day especially for celebs |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Ranchhoddas: 12:14pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:This unending foolishness of yours is why I no longer like to respond to you anymore. I even find it difficult to read your posts these days as you always find a way to connect every thread to communism, Hitler and mass murder just as you are trying to do now. Tell me, how can atheism be 2500 years old when David the Psalmist is recorded in the Bible saying, ''the fool says in his heart, there is no God...''? I know you will respond with something more foolish, and another clown will like your post. |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Ranchhoddas: 12:19pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
ilynem:Using the Bible, how do we stop the Qatari government from funding terrorism? |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 12:20pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: "another clown"? there's only one his posts have one like and one share by default from that clown 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by jonbellion(m): 12:20pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:lol Pidgin2's undying love for me and I for her is well known so I don't know what the heck you're talking about |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by felixomor: 12:21pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: David prophecied about Jesus too. Jesus wasnt born on earth then. So whats your point.? |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
jonbellion: perhaps he's jealous |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas: My brother , I don't even mention you . You must be obsessed with me . Wishing and hoping that I notice your comments T ell me, how can atheism be 2500 years old when David the Psalmist is recorded in the Bible saying, ''the fool says in his heart, there is no God...''? According to Historians , the origin of the book of Psalms is not earlier than the 5th century during the post-Exilic period - isn't this the same time atheism began (between the 5th and 6th century )? Who is now the foolish one ? 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:27pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: Felixomor , this cheerleader and a myrmidon of sonofluc1fer immediately hopped on the bandwagon of foolishness that ignorant dude was driving - this speaks volumes of the superior intelligence he claims to have. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Ranchhoddas: 12:28pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
felixomor:Are you sure you understand the question? We are talking about the ''age'' of atheism. I no know wetin concern Jesus for this matter. |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by felixomor: 12:29pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:LoL Free him bro. The guy is on his periodic intellectual spasms 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by hopefulLandlord: 12:29pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: did my post hit a nerve? |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Theophinio(m): 12:31pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Follow the natural way made by God for procreation unless you are medically unable to do so Using it for your own selfish aim is #EVIL |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by felixomor: 12:32pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
Ranchhoddas:Exactly, Just as u were trying to use a poem of david to deduct age of atheism. U missed it first, By the way, how far your Barcelona prophecy? The only simple prophecy u ever attempted 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by Ranchhoddas: 12:32pm On Jun 12, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:5th century? Who wrote the book of Psalms? |
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