erico2k2:

This was true 10 years ago . Now the BDC has taken over

Mbok presi what is BDC?

erico2k2:

There are more yorubas in the US and UK than Igbos this is fact

The Fact is that aside UK, Igbos in diaspora are far more than Yorubas, its likely to be in the ratio of 2:1. Yorubas are more in the UK simply because there was free visa for Nigerians during colonial period, and since Lagos was the capital then, many Yorubas used the opportunity to migrate to London. Igbos dominate diaspora population followed by Yorubas & Binis.

I am sick and tired of these people telling us how much Nigerians in diaspora remitted back to Nigeria without telling us how much went out of Nigeria within the same period. These monies went out in for of school fees, medical bills, money laundry, stolen crude oil etc.

olashas:

Lol . But you are one of them, are you not?

BiafraIShere:
The Fact is that aside UK, Igbos in diaspora are far more than Yorubas, its likely to be in the ratio of 2:1. Yorubas are more in the UK simply because there was free visa for Nigerians during colonial period, and since Lagos was the capital then, many Yorubas used the opportunity to migrate to London. Igbos dominate diaspora population followed by Yorubas & Binis.

Any concrete data to support this assertion?

When we remit money home (and I've been remitting money back to Nigeria for 30 years now), they don't ask for our state of origin. You send money as a Nigerian or as a citizen of that country if you have naturalised. So without verifiable data, no one can say for an absolute fact which tribe sends money home the most.

In terms of which tribe is far more in the diaspora. again without verifiable data, no one can authoritatively state which tribe is more than the other.

Based on guess work though, I'd say the Yorubas are more. I've lived abroad for 30 years and travelled extensively, so at least I can hazard some sort of guess.

Oh by the way, if your reply comes with insult, I will not respond. That's why I rarely post on Nairaland.
Thanks.

Humility017:


you didn't even mention the binis....all over Europe and the southwesterners in UK....

Did you see UK as top giver there?
We saw USA, China and many Asians countries

MadamT:


Any concrete data to support this assertion?

When we remit money home (and I've been remitting money back to Nigeria for 30 years now), they don't ask for our state of origin. You send money as a Nigerian or as a citizen of that country if you have naturalised. So without verifiable data, no one can say for an absolute fact which tribe sends money home the most.

In terms of which tribe is far more in the diaspora. again without verifiable data, no one can authoritatively state which tribe is more than the other.

Based on guess work though, I'd say the Yorubas are more. I've lived abroad for 30 years and travelled extensively, so at least I can hazard some sort of guess.

Oh by the way, if your reply comes with insult, I will not respond. That's why I rarely post on Nairaland.
Thanks.

Why would I resort to insult? What I stated is the obvious fact based on decipherible logic. Diaspora Igbos are apparently more in number than Yorubas.

BiafraIShere:
The Fact is that aside UK, Igbos in diaspora are far more than Yorubas, its likely to be in the ratio of 2:1. Yorubas are more in the UK simply because there was free visa for Nigerians during colonial period, and since Lagos was the capital then, many Yorubas used the opportunity to migrate to London. Igbos dominate diaspora population followed by Yorubas & Binis.

They are more in the UK cos of 70s indigenization decree that left Igbos penniless and Yorubas had the control of those companies, though defunct now.
Their people emigrated to Europe to squander the money, taking advantage of the free visa

InyinyaAgbaOku:


Did you see UK as top giver there?
We saw USA, China and many Asians countries

Nigeria[edit]

A major source of foreign-exchange earnings for Nigeria are remittances sent home by Nigerians living abroad.[22] In 2014, 17.5 million Nigerians lived in foreign countries, with the UK and the USA having more than 2 million Nigerians each.[22]

According to the International Organization for Migration, Nigeria witnessed a dramatic increase in remittances sent home from overseas Nigerians, going from USD 2.3 billion in 2004 to 17.9 billion in 2007, representing 6.7% of GDP. The United States accounts for the largest portion of official remittances, followed by the United Kingdom, Italy, Canada, Spain and France. On the African continent, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Libya and South Africa are important source countries of remittance flows to Nigeria, while China is the biggest remittance-sending country in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittance

MadamT:


Any concrete data to support this assertion?

When we remit money home (and I've been remitting money back to Nigeria for 30 years now), they don't ask for our state of origin. You send money as a Nigerian or as a citizen of that country if you have naturalised. So without verifiable data, no one can say for an absolute fact which tribe sends money home the most.

In terms of which tribe is far more in the diaspora. again without verifiable data, no one can authoritatively state which tribe is more than the other.

Based on guess work though, I'd say the Yorubas are more. I've lived abroad for 30 years and travelled extensively, so at least I can hazard some sort of guess.

Oh by the way, if your reply comes with insult, I will not respond. That's why I rarely post on Nairaland.
Thanks.

You went to USA, Europe, Asia and saw more yorubas?
You definitely move only in your circles only.
It's not even up for argument who is more in the Diaspora .

And UK sef no be better country. Too tight. That's why it's not even mentioned in the article

SIRTee15:


Nigeria[edit]

A major source of foreign-exchange earnings for Nigeria are remittances sent home by Nigerians living abroad.[22] In 2014, 17.5 million Nigerians lived in foreign countries, with the UK and the USA having more than 2 million Nigerians each.[22]

According to the International Organization for Migration, Nigeria witnessed a dramatic increase in remittances sent home from overseas Nigerians, going from USD 2.3 billion in 2004 to 17.9 billion in 2007, representing 6.7% of GDP. The United States accounts for the largest portion of official remittances, followed by the United Kingdom, Italy, Canada, Spain and France. On the African continent, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Chad, Libya and South Africa are important source countries of remittance flows to Nigeria, while China is the biggest remittance-sending country in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittance

I repeat, did u see UK in this article?

BiafraIShere:
Why would I resort to insult? What I stated is the obvious fact based on decipherible logic. Diaspora Igbos are apparently more in number than Yorubas.

"Desipherible logic" is not verifiable. I repeat no one can authoritatively state which tribe is more or less in the diaspora without accurate data to support the assertion. Anything else is just guesswork which anyone is free to hazard and believe if it makes them happy, I suppose.

18billion$?
This is very poor.
in 2015 and previous year, it was reported that nigerians in diaspora remitted 20-21billion$,
and with a weakened naira in 2016, I was expecting the remittances to reach a record high, not 18billion$

Naira got weaker in 2016_ which should have provided a huge incentive for diasporans to send home more money than they'd ever done, yet report is saying otherwise.

something is wrong, its either the previous records of the remittances of 2014 and 2015 is falsified or the present UN report is shabbily done.

dejavubobo1:
most of it must have gone into real estate, that's the only sector diasporans who intend to come back think of.
& maybe health sector too. mama in d village needs medicare.

but compared to wat Nigerians pay fr importation, education, health care & other foreign luxuries we are still at a loss o..

Unless you return to Nigeria, doing business from abroad is almost impossible.

People are too uncommitted and dishonest to manage your business on your behalf.

Most of us have sad stories to tell. I know some who have sold their hotels, guesthouses, farms, car dealership, pure water factories and other business they began from diaspora.

Often the only option left is real estate. Even if some tenants prefer to pay lawyers to fight you instead of paying rent, at least the property remains yours.

BiafraIShere:
Over 60% of that money is certainly from Igbo diaspora. How many a.b.o.k.is are even hussling to earn a living outside Nigeria except the few begging for alms in places like Saudi Arabia & Sudan. Parasites!

ibos be pulling out numbers out of their a$$es everytime without any data to support it. We own 95% of business in lagos, we own 90% of buildings in abuja, over 60% of remittance is from ibo e.t.c ...

walexy100:
Wow! Nigerians abroad really work hard.. N7trillion in a year almost at per with our budget

Yes...we all work hard including those wire wire boys in malaysia
By benin people all over Europe....i twale for una too

salford1:

ibos be pulling out numbers out of their a$$es everytime without any data to support it. We own 95% of business in lagos, we own 90% of buildings in abuja, over 60% of remittance is from ibo e.t.c ...

Actually Edo & Delta have a disproportionately high percentage of the remittance.Considering population.

years back in UK, Lagos, Ibadan & Benin City were the most popular remittance destinations. In fact those cities would be specifically written on remittance shop windows. It has hardly changed.

AreaFada2:


Actually Edo & Delta have a disproportionately high percentage of the remittance.Considering population.

years back in UK, Lagos, Ibadan & Benin City were the most popular remittance destinations. In fact those cities would be specifically written on remittance shop windows. It has hardly changed.

i dont know about delta but Edo...yes.

erico2k2:

The Benin people are in Italy France Germany . They are the largest population in them ends

have u been to Europe before or is it what u heard from kiosks gossip , they are minority in Nigeria... so how do they constitutes the highest population outside Nigeria get ur fact straight bro

erico2k2:

The Benin people are in Italy France Germany . They are the largest population in them ends

don't dull yourself, many Benin people go to Italy for what we all know but Igbos are still the largest Nigerian Diaspora in Italy or any country in Europe except UK where yorubas have a very large contingent.even at that, Igbos are like sardines there too. Am sure the gap between yorubas and igbo is not much and igbos will close the gap, the way am seeing it.

don't even call Germany and France, Igbos hold sway. especially those German automobile importers and igbo real estate merchants in Germany.

same as china

chukzyfcbb:
18billion$?
This is very poor.
in 2015 and previous year, it was reported that nigerians in diaspora remitted 20-21billion$,
and with a weakened naira in 2016, I was expecting the remittances to reach a record high, not 18billion$

Naira got weaker in 2016_ which should have provided a huge incentive for diasporans to send home more money than they'd ever done, yet report is saying otherwise.

something is wrong, its either the previous records of the remittances of 2014 and 2015 is falsified or the present UN report is shabbily done.

I don't think previous data was falsified but nothing is impossible. I would like to see the aviation data because around me, the weaker naira allowed people to travel home to take care of stuff and it's safe to assume that many went with lots of cash. I know of someone who was going home once in 2 years on the average and he went home 4 times in 2016 alone and twice this year growing his retirement business. Another friend went to Port Harcourt recently and declared over $15k in cash to the customs in Nigeria. The declaration may count as part of remittances but those who went with less $10k don't have to declare what they brought and added to the economy in Nigeria.

Shikena:

I don't think previous data was falsified but nothing is impossible. I would like to see the aviation data because around me, the weaker naira allowed people to travel home to take care of stuff and it's safe to assume that many went with lots of cash. I know of someone who was going home once in 2 years on the average and he went home 4 times in 2016 alone and twice this year growing his retirement business. Another friend went to Port Harcourt recently and declared over $15k in cash to the customs in Nigeria.

exactly my point, I will wait for world bank fact report on 2016. They are the agency that I know to be reliable in dishing out those facts not UN report. 2016 remittances should hit nothing less than 22billion $$$

We're contributing our quota to make Nigeria a better place.
But we need protection. Much of these money diasporans send home are not accounted for by the receivers.

IloveMoney:


don't dull yourself, many Benin people go to Italy for what we all know but Igbos are still the largest Nigerian Diaspora in Italy or any country in Europe except UK where yorubas have a very large contingent.even at that, Igbos are like sardines there too. Am sure the gap between yorubas and igbo is not much and igbos will close the gap, the way am seeing it.

don't even call Germany and France, Igbos hold sway. especially those German automobile importers and igbo real estate merchants in Germany.

same as china

have you been Italy,Germany and france B4?
Im not talking of what anyone does or do not do, Im talking of population

Bullhari007:
have u been to Europe before or is it what u heard from kiosks gossip , they are minority in Nigeria... so how do they constitutes the highest population outside Nigeria get ur fact straight bro

check my profile and post, Im typing from London,my advice buy a laptop and stop browsing with phones, there are more items on a laptop accessing NL than on a mobile phone.

takenadoh:

Mbok presi what is BDC?

Bureau De Change,is this not waht this topic is all about?Dont you have BDC in Nigeria like sand?
Now dont you look stupid

erico2k2:

check my profile and post, Im typing from London,my advice buy a laptop and stop browsing with phones, there are more items on a laptop accessing NL than on a mobile phone.

what am I going to do with ur profile, Bros abeg come back home I get better job for you... u sure u dey London self

Bullhari007:
what am I going to do with ur profile, Bros abeg come back home I get better job for you... u sure u dey London self

No U asked if I have ever been to Europe so I referred you to my profile, cos Im very sure at my age I can feeed you full linage, nor B boast

BiafraIShere:
The Fact is that aside UK, Igbos in diaspora are far more than Yorubas, its likely to be in the ratio of 2:1. Yorubas are more in the UK simply because there was free visa for Nigerians during colonial period, and since Lagos was the capital then, many Yorubas used the opportunity to migrate to London. Igbos dominate diaspora population followed by Yorubas & Binis.

I think In Italy there are more Benins but then again, there is not a lot to do in italy well we all know what the benins are into over there.

AreaFada2:

Unless you return to Nigeria, doing business from abroad is almost impossible.

People are too uncommitted and dishonest to manage your business on your behalf.

Most of us have sad stories to tell. I know some who have sold their hotels, guesthouses, farms, car dealership, pure water factories and other business they began from diaspora.

Often the only option left is real estate. Even if some tenants prefer to pay lawyers to fight you instead of paying rent, at least the property remains yours.

I think you are right, its better you invest in waht you and your wife can manage in full to avoid super stories.

erico2k2:

No U asked if I have ever been to Europe so I referred you to my profile, cos Im very sure at my age I can feeed you full linage, nor B boast

you first have to feed your malnourished impoverished parents in your village