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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:38pm On Jun 12, 2017
dalaman:


. A God that is everywhere should be objectively detected. We have detected so many things in the universe, the presence of this God hasn't been detected anywhere, yet you claim it's everywhere. How can something be everywhere and yet undetectable and we are told that the thing wants people not only to detect it but know of its existence. Your God is exactly as something that doesn't exist in reality.

What is reality ? What if everything is simulated? What if we are in a matrix ? What if it is all a dream ? What if there is no matter and what exists are minds and their sensory ideas ?

You should not be subjective about reality and then stop trying to confine everything to your own opinion of reality . 'The universe is all there is ' - is this not an assumption too ? undecided

Since you claim you are open minded and have rejected everything we see as evidence , then provide an objective method of determining the presence of God . Help us construct your a device that can detect the existence and presence of God since that is what you are hell bent on .

dalaman:
He gave two assumptions. 1 that the universe began to exist and he provided his "evidence" for that.
2. He also said the universe created it self and also provided his "evidence".

But those are not evidence but assumptions all I need to do is provide my own counter assumptions but that isn't what I am.interested in. Am.interested in incontrovertible evidence not assumptions.

Since you claim that his evidence are mere assumptions , then prove they are . If what we all know are mere assumptions as you claim , why do you keep asking for evidence ?

It looks like your favorite shape is the circle undecided

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:29pm On Jun 13, 2017
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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by JackBizzle: 10:59pm On Jun 13, 2017
sonofluc1fer:

JESUS liars... SUPER liars
JESUS liars.. SUPER liars

Mammywater Liars.. Learner liars
Mammywater liars.. Learnee liars

Ebuka talk say allah na Jesus Papa,
Felix take straw, suck am like Fanta
Anallice come dodge am, like yawa
Dalaman don ask taya

Give me Dna, not denial
Those were separate gods, gods from across the Nile
Ebuka say Igbo man dey worship Yahweh in another form
Oh, how sadly misinformed
But Felix still dey in form
Dey suck shit like bitch in porn
grin grin

grin
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:14pm On Jun 18, 2017
Cc lalasticlala
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Antichristus: 10:29pm On Jun 18, 2017
OP, Can God create a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by BAILMONEY: 10:31pm On Jun 18, 2017
PHILOSOPHERS IN THE BUILDING OVER TO YA
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jun 18, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Good one, KingEbuka.

Now if only God, the omnipresent could just create an NL account and verify your claims, that'd be awesome.

One little miracle for my poor hell bound soul.

#AwesomeResponseJuicy
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:35pm On Jun 18, 2017
Antichristus:
OP, Can God create a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it?

Can you arm wrestle against yourself ?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Hillarie(m): 10:41pm On Jun 18, 2017
dalaman:
Most of your write up is just so nonsensical that I don't know where to begin from. Everything written up there is just empty assertion that makes no sense at all. I will just take one of them and show you that your assertions are false.




This is completely false. How can the pinnacle of moral perfection engage on evil? The bible is some.places has God doing evil, and apologizing for his evil deeds.

(Exod. 32:14), “And the Lord repented of the evil [/b]which he thought to do unto his people.

If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: [b]For I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you
.
Jeremiah 42:10

Why is your God doing evil and repenting? A perfect God that is the pinnacle of morality that goes about doing evil is impossible.

As usual you have come to just expose your self and you weak and ill thought out arguments that make no sense at all.

Bro, you're clearly confused about that.

That God repented of His evil doesn't make Him an evildoer..

Evil as used there means punishment.
The Bible says He Chastises those He loves..
When you err and your dad punishes you, does that make him evil?

God is, He is the Beginning and the End. He's the Love that will set you free

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by osazsky(m): 10:47pm On Jun 18, 2017
dalaman:


grin. Case closed. God is all these things, yet he'll have to rely on the incompetent and discredited KingEbukasBlog to let people know all these without creating a nairaland account and letting people know about it himself? I laugh in Hebrew.
u dont want to believe that god created you yet u believe that u metermophose from monkeys and apes.u believe that ur fore fathers were monkeys who gave birth to ur great grand father who was Lucky to come in d form of apes who later gave birth to ur grand father who was a gorilla dat gave birth to u a human .the time and effort you spend in understanding the big bang theory and d stupid evolution which you gladly embrace that u were once a homo erectus and now homo serpience ,dont u think believing dat there is a Supreme god up there is more easier to understand.y not understand d simple one is better than the difficult one ie evolution and big bang theory .then d difference in time and effort channel it into how to make whealth fool

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by davidodiba(m): 10:49pm On Jun 18, 2017
I have come to the bitter conclusion that if any man wants to hang his dog any rope will do.
For except the Holy Spirit helps those who say there is no God, they will always think they do this world a favor by not believing in God. It is never by force for you to do so. Even demons believe there is God and they tremble and shudder at this very reality. I may not know why they choose not to believe in God but the God of all grace will save all atheists on this NL in Jesus name

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by BAILMONEY: 10:50pm On Jun 18, 2017
dalaman:


You don't know. You only rely on the ideas of others. If you know tell me exactly when hu man's started to walk on earth. Communicate with your God and tell him.to tell you exactly when humans tatted walking on earth. Hope you know that it remains a big issue even amongst christians. While some claim it is just 6000 years ago some agree with science and say it's tens of thousands of years . Since you claim to know what created humans and also claim to be in communication with that things talk to it and let it tell you when exactly it created humans on earth. Am waiting.
IF THE GREAT CONTINENTAL PHILOSOPHERS LIKE RENE DESCARTES, BARUCH SPINOZA AND LEIBNIZ CAN PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WHO ARE YOU TO SAY OTHERWISE
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by oodua1stson: 10:53pm On Jun 18, 2017
This is one of the lamest god arguements I've seen ever.





Btw there's nothing goodabout a guy who would burn Pepe in a lake of fire forever

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:57pm On Jun 18, 2017
oodua1stson:
This is one of the lamest god arguements I've seen ever.

This is not an argument for God's existence . Please bro , read the article next time . If you still have any objection , please provide a cogent rebuttal and not resorting to a pooh pooh fallacy when there's nothing meaningful to contribute .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:58pm On Jun 18, 2017
Thanks lalasticlala smiley
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jun 18, 2017
sonofluc1fer:
Good one, KingEbuka.

Now if only God, the omnipresent could just create an NL account and verify your claims, that'd be awesome.

One little miracle for my poor hell bound soul.

Your sarcasm is noted. People who do not believe in God are in factvpeople of faith. Deep faith. Now that you have challenged God to open an ÑĹ account - what for - other than a whim - I dont know.
But I would like you try something. If you succeed, i will tear up my bible and join the nearest chapter of your faith. Because faith is what you practice.

Ok. Here is your challenge.
1. Find some place prefferably at a great height
2. Take with you bricks, cement, water, glass, tiles and basically stuff you need to build a house.
3. Fling them all in the air as high as you like.
4. Big bang theory or similar God "less" theories state that all these pieces should come together to form a perfect building. Of course we also need to believe that " big bang" is a random, impersonal and totally freakish accident that occured once for no reason and has not ocurred again since.
5. Your "new" building should also posess intelligences that allow it interact with planetary, tide and sesmic movements.
6. Your new building should be cspable of adapting to managing various risks and circumstances.
7. Sounds like an act of faith?
8. Yup. It takes great deal of faith to believe in a God "less" world.

The world is waiting for you. Dont hang about. Go create.

Do tell us when you are done.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Mujtahida: 11:12pm On Jun 18, 2017
felixomor:

God is a Judge.
It is the work of a judge to repay evil with evil.
Its called justice.
The evil you highlighted there comes after people commited evil and abominations they were commanded not to.

But unfortunately, you wont read those verses before it.
Why?, because you simply read the bible because of argument.
So the Bible God as judge did evil as a recompense for evil and abominations committed and yet he repented over that same evil?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by jomoh: 11:12pm On Jun 18, 2017
dalaman:


grin. Case closed. God is all these things, yet he'll have to rely on the incompetent and discredited KingEbukasBlog to let people know all these without creating a nairaland account and letting people know about it himself? I laugh in Hebrew.



No mind dat one.


Abeg is it true I fit get better bullet proof charm for Ogun state?
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by egobetatoday: 11:12pm On Jun 18, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


Aint you happy that you would be united with your dad forever ? There is no separating you two this time . You should be glad Hell exists smiley

dont mind them. They call themselves atheist but they busy themselves with every religious thread. They are always the first to reply and they are the most scared of hell. funny.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:18pm On Jun 18, 2017
egobetatoday:


dont mind them. They call themselves atheist but they busy themselves with every religious thread. They are always the first to reply and they are the most scared of hell. funny.

I learnt they are being paid to do so .It makes sense . Sometimes you wonder how they could spend a whole day arguing against what they claim does not exist . Isn't that insanity ? But now , we understand better . They are being paid to troll believers week in week out . We haven't found out who sponsors them yet .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 11:25pm On Jun 18, 2017
God ? Why would anyone 'think' that God exists ? God DOES NOT NEED TO EXIST, Because God is EVERYTHING. Oh, that was so generic. I do not like to use the word God. Because it is a term coined to show Superiority of one Entity over another. Like Tinubu being a GODfather of Fashola, Buhari and Ambode. He does not OWN them, but yet He Saw to it that they became what they are; I digressed please forgive me.

Now;

You can not know spiritual things (occurencies outside the 7 colors produced by the UV spectrum of Light. We have 24colours but can only see 7 because dark energy falls outside the UV spectrum of visible light). We are limited. Nature is unlimited. God exist as UNKNOWABLE UNKNOWN as long as we live on 3D plane. But I know a man who is typing this message is a 5D entity and he is more aware and he says Spirituality is Physics not yet understood by Humans stucked on 3D. Quantum Physics has to marry Science of Consciousness then you will understand that GOD is a limited word to call the totality of all that exists, the CAUSE and SOURCE of Energy.

So when next you meet an atheist, tell them that Billyonaire was atheist for over a decade and has gone beyond Astro and Quantum Dynamics and I state as follows;

That Energy, can not be created Nor Destroyed. Everything is energy at diverse frequencies and wavelengths. The world does not need God to exist, but the CAUSE and SOURCE of Energy is UNKNOWN. That UNKNOWN is called GOD. That is what we are when we loose consciousness at sleep. IT wakes us up every morning to experience life. Yet IT experience Life through IT. We are IT. We are Gods and children of MOST HIGH, so when we say God is everywhere, what we are saying is that God is seeing the world through the eyes of John in USA, Jerry at London. Okechukwu at Biafra. Mohammed at Nigeria. Eto at Cameroun, Kotov at Russia etc etc. God is US at different places, that is what is meant by God is everywhere and he sees through our eyes. So, ponder no more on who sees when we look, who feels great when we dance. Who enjoys when we have sex. Who hears when we listen. It has been GOD all along. We are merely bodies that SPIRIT occupies, that is why we are called Vessels or vehicles. We are ETs living on Earth bound spacesuit and at death we drop the body and move on to different planet. Our Home Planet. We are living, breathing, eating robots. And reproduction is a art of body making for more SPIRITS to occupy.

Know this truth and enjoy LIFE like me.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:25pm On Jun 18, 2017
greenpasture:


Your sarcasm is noted. People who do not believe in God are in factvpeople of faith. Deep faith. Now that you have challenged God to open an ÑĹ account - what for - other than a whim - I dont know.
But I would like you try something. If you succeed, i will tear up my bible and join the nearest chapter of your faith. Because faith is what you practice.

Ok. Here is your challenge.
1. Find some place prefferably at a great height
2. Take with you bricks, cement, water, glass, tiles and basically stuff you need to build a house.
3. Fling them all in the air as high as you like.
4. Big bang theory or similar God "less" theories state that all these pieces should come together to form a perfect building. Of course we also need to believe that " big bang" is a random, impersonal and totally freakish accident that occured once for no reason and has not ocurred again since.
5. Your "new" building should also posess intelligences that allow it interact with planetary, tide and sesmic movements.
6. Your new building should be cspable of adapting to managing various risks and circumstances.
7. Sounds like an act of faith?
8. Yup. It takes great deal of faith to believe in a God "less" world.

The world is waiting for you. Dont hang about. Go create.

Do tell us when you are done.

Welcome to the world of the atheists .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by tintingz(m): 11:26pm On Jun 18, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


The purpose of anthropomorphism is to make God easier for humans to understand . That's why the Hebrew writers of the bible used anthropomorphism . To be able relate with God .

The deists like Xenophanes severely criticized the use of anthropomorphism. The criticism of a concept does not make it illogical .
anthropomorphism on god is rubbish and illogical, if horses were to write or draw, their supreme being will have features and character like horse.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by chemystery: 11:27pm On Jun 18, 2017
dalaman:
Most of your write up is just so nonsensical that I don't know where to begin from. Everything written up there is just empty assertion that makes no sense at all. I will just take one of them and show you that your assertions are false.




This is completely false. How can the pinnacle of moral perfection engage on evil? The bible is some.places has God doing evil, and apologizing for his evil deeds.

(Exod. 32:14), “And the Lord repented of the evil [/b]which he thought to do unto his people.

If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: [b]For I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you
.
Jeremiah 42:10

Why is your God doing evil and repenting? A perfect God that is the pinnacle of morality that goes about doing evil is impossible.

As usual you have come to just expose your self and you weak and ill thought out arguments that make no sense at all.
Now, @KingEbukasBlog, this is a what is called rubuttal - proof of falsehood to an assertion.

You only made a fresh assertion and called it rebuttal.
I am still waiting for you to debunk or rebutt the atheist claims/assertions than bringing up already debunked assertions.

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:34pm On Jun 18, 2017
tintingz:
anthropomorphism on god is rubbish and illogical, if horses were to write or draw, their supreme being will have features and character like horse.

So you are a deist ?

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:38pm On Jun 18, 2017
chemystery:

Now, @KingEbukasBlog, this is a what is called rubuttal - proof of falsehood to an assertion.

His rebuttal is nothing but a misunderstanding . Or better still out of ignorance .

chemystery:
You only made a fresh assertion and called it rebuttal.
I am still waiting for you to debunk or rebutt the atheist claims/assertions than bringing up already debunked assertions.


He claims the bible is fictitious , so what's the need of rebutting fiction ? He just goes back and forth . The bible becomes a historical document when he wants to support a claim , the bible becomes a gallimaufry of fictional books whenever you rubbish his claims .

I've stopped discussing the bible with atheists . They don't learn . And they are too ignorant of so many things .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by SmartyPants(m): 11:39pm On Jun 18, 2017
dalaman:
Most of your write up is just so nonsensical that I don't know where to begin from. Everything written up there is just empty assertion that makes no sense at all. I will just take one of them and show you that your assertions are false.




This is completely false. How can the pinnacle of moral perfection engage on evil? The bible is some.places has God doing evil, and apologizing for his evil deeds.

(Exod. 32:14), “And the Lord repented of the evil [/b]which he thought to do unto his people.

If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: [b]For I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you
.
Jeremiah 42:10

Why is your God doing evil and repenting? A perfect God that is the pinnacle of morality that goes about doing evil is impossible.

As usual you have come to just expose your self and you weak and ill thought out arguments that make no sense at all.

You are quoting archaic English and interpreting it in modern English.

If you want the truth then be truthful in your quest.
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by hopefulLandlord: 11:46pm On Jun 18, 2017
BAILMONEY:
IF THE GREAT CONTINENTAL PHILOSOPHERS LIKE RENE DESCARTES, BARUCH SPINOZA AND LEIBNIZ CAN PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WHO ARE YOU TO SAY OTHERWISE

Stop shouting, it makes your nonsense even worse

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:49pm On Jun 18, 2017
Billyonaire:
God ? Why would anyone 'think' that God exists ? God DOES NOT NEED TO EXIST, Because God is EVERYTHING. Oh, that was so generic. I do not like to use the word God. Because it is a term coined to show Superiority of one Entity over another. Like Tinubu being a GODfather of Fashola, Buhari and Ambode. He does not OWN them, but yet He Saw to it that they became what they are; I digressed please forgive me.

Now;

You can not know spiritual things (occurencies outside the 7 colors produced by the UV spectrum of Light. We have 24colours but can only see 7 because dark energy falls outside the UV spectrum of visible light). We are limited. Nature is unlimited. God exist as UNKNOWABLE UNKNOWN as long as we live on 3D plane. But I know a man who is typing this message is a 5D entity and he is more aware and he says Spirituality is Physics not yet understood by Humans stucked on 3D. Quantum Physics has to marry Science of Consciousness then you will understand that GOD is a limited word to call the totality of all that exists, the CAUSE and SOURCE of Energy.

So when next you meet an atheist, tell them that Billyonaire was atheist for over a decade and has gone beyond Astro and Quantum Dynamics and I state as follows;

That Energy, can not be created Nor Destroyed. Everything is energy at diverse frequencies and wavelengths. The world does not need God to exist, but the CAUSE and SOURCE of Energy is UNKNOWN. That UNKNOWN is called GOD. That is what we are when we loose consciousness at sleep. IT wakes us up every morning to experience life. Yet IT experience Life through IT. We are IT. We are Gods and children of MOST HIGH, so when we say God is everywhere, what we are saying is that God is seeing the world through the eyes of John in USA, Jerry at London. Okechukwu at Biafra. Mohammed at Nigeria. Eto at Cameroun, Kotov at Russia etc etc. God is US at different places, that is what is meant by God is everywhere and he sees through our eyes. So, ponder no more on who sees when we look, who feels great when we dance. Who enjoys when we have sex. Who hears when we listen. It has been GOD all along. We are merely bodies that SPIRIT occupies, that is why we are called Vessels or vehicles. We are ETs living on Earth bound spacesuit and at death we drop the body and move on to different planet. Our Home Planet. We are living, breathing, eating robots. And reproduction is a art of body making for more SPIRITS to occupy.

Know this truth and enjoy LIFE like me.

You are coming home sir . Soon you'll get there . God is the source and cause of energy and is beyond existence but It is definitely not the "Unknown" . God incarnated as man in the person of Jesus Christ to reveal Himself to us . It's difficult to accept that God who is beyond existence incarnated as man but the historical evidence of Christ's death and resurrection makes it believable .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:51pm On Jun 18, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


Stop shouting, it makes your nonsense even worse

The greatest minds gave logical reasons to acknowledge the existence of God ; thousands and hundreds of years later , modern atheists have not rebutted their reasons . Talk about eternal truths .

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Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by BAILMONEY: 11:53pm On Jun 18, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


Stop shouting, it makes your nonsense even worse
LOL CHILDREN OF FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHEgrin
Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by Nobody: 11:53pm On Jun 18, 2017
SmartyPants:


You are quoting archaic English and interpreting it in modern English.

If you want the truth then be truthful in your quest.
No true Scotsman fallacy


But archaic English and modern English were right when they said, "JESUS DIED AND ROSE AGAIN ABI?"

You must be a joker

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