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OkoYibo:
Have you forgotten when Jonathan said Igbos were the pillars of his administration?

Have you forgotten when you named Jonathan Azikiwe?

You're all making noise because Jonathan lost the elections and it's apparent in the way a few Hausa youths rubbished the enitre Biafran noise.

Who is making noise?Its like you have brain ache?Briafra is here to stay..you betta wake up ad face reality..According to my nigerdelta broders you ad ur hausa pipz are brainless cowards if nothing happens.

Onyocha:
If you want to use history, you guys drew blood first. You threw the first punch. Didn't you? Na una start the hate killings and bigotry. Otherwise after independence it was all even. You wanted to dominate. It's part of your agreessive nature to dominate others. And that's bad. If only you remember then that the bible says "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword". It's a classic example here. You drew blood first!

Hahaha!Drew which blood first?Don't be a unity beggar..The dominators must go..Just let dem be and be redy to live alone..Simple

ZorGBUooeh:
Hahaha!Drew which blood first?Don't be a unity beggar..The dominators must go..Just let dem be and be redy to live alone..Simple

Your room is inside my house, how can it be a house on its own?

If this country is to break up, it's not igbos that will lead or should lead or can lead the motion. If you do, you're alone on your own. And if the south is to unite to be a one bloc to ask for independence, that unity will be doubtful and highly unlikely to happen. So abeg make una siddon. Stop claiming what you're not.

Onyocha:
Your room is inside my house, how can it be a house on its own?

If this country is to break up, it's not igbos that will lead or should lead or can lead the motion. If you do, you're alone on your own. And if the south is to unite to be a one bloc to ask for independence, that unity will be doubtful and highly unlikely to happen. So abeg make una siddon. Stop claiming what you're not.

At times I wonder if you guys are sick in the head or something..You guys said ibos are landlocked,they dominate,they are criminals bla bla bla ad this same criminals said they want out but you guys refuse..Aren't you guys crazy?Its only a criminal dat will luv to live with a criminal..

Onyocha:
You forget that if your five states get independence, your so called Biafra will still be within Nigeria. And Nigeria can literally kill you off through land and air blockade. That's what is meant by the title of the write up. Your clamor for independence will end up to be cries of siege. If I'm to break it down for you like a kindagarten pupil, your Biafra will end up inside Nigeria and that means Nigeria will forever own your Biafra. It is like when your room is inside my house.

afonja man! agent of disharmony and progress! The divisive coneheaded devil!

Are you from Delta, rivers, cross rivers, akwa ibom, imo states? Who are you to tell us that biafra is made up of only 5 states Which was a grand divisive work of your myopic grandfathers?

check the time and tell me that biafra is not giving you sleepless night? Why are u so envious of igbo nation? Biafra encompasses the 5 eastern states, all south southern states with the exemption of some parts of edo state and with the inclusion of some middlebelt states. Now, cry me a river Mr agent of division!!!

sorry1:
afonja man! agent of disharmony and progress! The divisive coneheaded devil!

Are you from Delta, rivers, cross rivers, akwa ibom, imo states? Who are you to tell us that biafra is made up of only 5 states Which was a grand divisive work of your myopic grandfathers?

check the time and tell me that biafra is not giving you sleepless night? Why are u so envious of igbo nation? Biafra encompasses the 5 eastern states, all south eastern states with the exemption of some parts of edo state and with the inclusion of some middlebelt states. Now, cry me a river Mr agent of division!!!

Look at the glaring contradiction in your statement. You speak of Biafra as multi ethnic, but still talk of "Igbo nation".

Has biafra ever been a political entity, historically speaking? Was it ever in existence, other than in the figment of your imagination? You can even add kaduna. That doesn't mean those you're adding accept to be part of you. And as history has shown, they have actively stood against your imagination of Biafra. So your quest to dominate others can't succeed because it will be resisted.

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Onyocha:
These are the reasons why I believe Biafra will not succeed and igbos have no way to succeed in creating their own country. In fact, if eventually igbos are given their own country, it will be so full of hunger, division, and conflict that they may eventually beg for the northerners to return and rule over them.

When you hear northerners begging the FG to let igbos go, consider the below reasons. Pay close attention at no. 4!

1.) if Biafra is to happen, it will be limited to five states. Nigeria will not hand over the Niger delta to the igbos even if the south south will eventually get its own independence on a different date and separately. What the north will not have, the igbos cannot get.

2.) Niger deltans either do not want to be part of Biafra or will eventually not want to remain in Biafra. That means conflict and even bloodshed. If the igbos think their Biafra will be a mini version of Nigeria where they will have hegemony over the Niger delta, and its oil, that is Satan dreaming of making it to heaven.

3.) the international community have nothing to gain from Biafra. And it will never want bloodshed and conflict that will send oil prices skyrocketing due to conflict between igbos and Niger deltans.

4.) if Nigeria is to allow the five Igbo states to conduct referendum today and give them independence, Biafra will literally be like Lesotho. A country within a country. (If you do not know how Lesotho looks like, please check you world map. It is a country inside South Africa; and Nigeria or neighbors won't be to Biafra what South Africa is to Lesotho). Nigeria can close its borders with a thick fence and close its airspace to Biafra of five Igbo states. Literally, your clamor for independence will end up being cries of siege. It will be hunger and poverty.

5.) igbos of five states clamoring for independence is not geographically feasible. It is like kanuris in parts of the north asking for independence. Your landmass is poorly situated. It's not even about the size. Your Biafra of five states is inside another country if your dream ever come to pass.

6.) the north can feed itself and Biafra cannot. Arable land is in abundance in the north and the north has been a bastion of agriculture.

7.) the north is a big market economically. It's landmass and population means big business. It is a big consumer market. That is money.

With your independence turning into a siege, you're literally finished. No agriculture of the north and no Niger delta oil for you and in an hostile environment, you are doomed. And this doom will also affect others. Therefore your Biafra project is aimed at destruction for everyone. To bring down the house on everyone's heads; and that is why many will stand against it to prevent such destruction from happening.

And far from being peaceful, no partition goes smoothly in places with ethnic and religious divisions and rivalry. Take example of India and Pakistan.

The best bet for igbos is to forge alliances across the nation and even go as far as mending fences with the north. People like okorocha and Amaechi have done well in that line of building bridges with the northerners.

You can clamor for restructuring or whatever it is called. Division of Nigeria will not end with a Biafra of anything more than five states. It will witness multiple divisions in both the south and the north. It could see continuos wars, famine and starvation which will be rampant in the north. Five states with 30 to 40 million igbos will be too populated with little sustenance or means for survival.

You will definitely not eat your cake and have it after asking for division. And that's where the north is hitting hard by asking igbos to leave. Such divisions means igbos starting from ZERO. You can't ask for your country and still try to live, and work elsewhere and want to control lands of other minorities.

As Nigeria is, it is not a land of a majority. It is a land of minorities. Add the biggest three ethnic groups, and the minorities will end up being more in terms of numbers.

And if the inevitable happens, igbos will be on their own. Both the middle belt and the south south or the Niger delta will not come to the help of igbos or want to die for igbos to have a country to dominate. Whether in Nigeria, in Biafra or in small independent countries, those ethnicities in the Middle East belt and in the Niger delta will remain minorities. Corruption cuts across ethnic groups. So what would they really stand to gain by dying for igbos? The igbos will end up besieged and beaten again if the inevitable (war) happens and may God forbid that.

Those few voices outside the five Igbo states cheering the igbos to secede will be no where to be found if the worst happens. The northerners will literally have a picnic in the south east, again! It will be really messy for igbos and they may never ever recover or survive as a group again. In fact, after such loss and dent to their image, anything Igbo may end up being treated like pariah. So those with much adrenaline flowing in their blood should think well before following the loud mouth of Kanu who may well end up proven to be an empty barrel.

Secession and partition are not child's play. I fully believe that self determination is human right. But in time of conflict, human right is abused. And how worse if the abuses and divisions are a never ending spiral? More or less a Pandora box! Half bread is better than none. Greed is a vice not a virtue.

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ZorGBUooeh:
At times I wonder if you guys are sick in the head or something..You guys said ibos are landlocked,they dominate,they are criminals bla bla bla ad this same criminals said they want out but you guys refuse..Aren't you guys crazy?Its only a criminal dat will luv to live with a criminal..

As in eh! The jealousy in these guys make me wonder how much jealousy god could've left in their body! They will tell you they don't care about biafra but they have been the only ones opening long threads telling us why we should reconsider biafra... They will call one chinedu from Delta state or rivers state a Biafra but will open a thread telling you that Delta and rivers state is not part of biafra They will tell you that Gej favored igbos during his tenure because igbos are his brothers but Same people will tell u bayelsa is not part of biafra!!!

How these guys reason makes me wanna change nationality ASAP!!!

i think, itis an hausa that wrote this post

Onyocha:
Look at the glaring contradiction in your statement. You speak of Biafra as multi ethnic, but still talk of "Igbo nation".

Has biafra ever been a political entity, historically speaking? Was it ever in existence, other than in the figment of your imagination? You can even add kaduna. That doesn't mean those you're adding accept to be part of you. And as history has shown, they have actively stood against your imagination of Biafra. So your quest to dominate others can't succeed because it will be resisted.

Who's dominating who, afonja Nzogwu, a man that played a major role in biafra war was from Delta state and effiong, the vp to ojukwu on biafra matters was from akwa ibom state... Dude, wtf are you saying? don't you have a shame?

Facts are there for you to see, but hateful afonjas have shown themselves to be a group of people that denies facts even when they are glaring. please have some self respect Mr adviser on biafran matters, ode!

KratosCorp:
This thread is nothing but the vomit of a pig. In fact it's far more worthless than a watery poo.

Opinion my ass.

As per the bolded, just the same way you did not agree in 2015 that his arrest was a mistake, but has now turned around to agree, in the same you will soon see Biafra emerge fully with regions comorising the current SS,SE and MB.

Go figure.

Remove mb and ss all I can see here is a country Ibo Majority with minorities

Onyocha:
These are the reasons why I believe Biafra will not succeed and igbos have no way to succeed in creating their own country. In fact, if eventually igbos are given their own country, it will be so full of hunger, division, and conflict that they may eventually beg for the northerners to return and rule over them.

When you hear northerners begging the FG to let igbos go, consider the below reasons. Pay close attention at no. 4!

1.) if Biafra is to happen, it will be limited to five states. Nigeria will not hand over the Niger delta to the igbos even if the south south will eventually get its own independence on a different date and separately. What the north will not have, the igbos cannot get.

2.) Niger deltans either do not want to be part of Biafra or will eventually not want to remain in Biafra. That means conflict and even bloodshed. If the igbos think their Biafra will be a mini version of Nigeria where they will have hegemony over the Niger delta, and its oil, that is Satan dreaming of making it to heaven.

3.) the international community have nothing to gain from Biafra. And it will never want bloodshed and conflict that will send oil prices skyrocketing due to conflict between igbos and Niger deltans.

4.) if Nigeria is to allow the five Igbo states to conduct referendum today and give them independence, Biafra will literally be like Lesotho. A country within a country. (If you do not know how Lesotho looks like, please check you world map. It is a country inside South Africa; and Nigeria or neighbors won't be to Biafra what South Africa is to Lesotho). Nigeria can close its borders with a thick fence and close its airspace to Biafra of five Igbo states. Literally, your clamor for independence will end up being cries of siege. It will be hunger and poverty.

5.) igbos of five states clamoring for independence is not geographically feasible. It is like kanuris in parts of the north asking for independence. Your landmass is poorly situated. It's not even about the size. Your Biafra of five states is inside another country if your dream ever come to pass.

6.) the north can feed itself and Biafra cannot. Arable land is in abundance in the north and the north has been a bastion of agriculture.

7.) the north is a big market economically. It's landmass and population means big business. It is a big consumer market. That is money.

With your independence turning into a siege, you're literally finished. No agriculture of the north and no Niger delta oil for you and in an hostile environment, you are doomed. And this doom will also affect others. Therefore your Biafra project is aimed at destruction for everyone. To bring down the house on everyone's heads; and that is why many will stand against it to prevent such destruction from happening.

And far from being peaceful, no partition goes smoothly in places with ethnic and religious divisions and rivalry. Take example of India and Pakistan.

The best bet for igbos is to forge alliances across the nation and even go as far as mending fences with the north. People like okorocha and Amaechi have done well in that line of building bridges with the northerners.

You can clamor for restructuring or whatever it is called. Division of Nigeria will not end with a Biafra of anything more than five states. It will witness multiple divisions in both the south and the north. It could see continuos wars, famine and starvation which will be rampant in the north. Five states with 30 to 40 million igbos will be too populated with little sustenance or means for survival.

You will definitely not eat your cake and have it after asking for division. And that's where the north is hitting hard by asking igbos to leave. Such divisions means igbos starting from ZERO. You can't ask for your country and still try to live, and work elsewhere and want to control lands of other minorities.

As Nigeria is, it is not a land of a majority. It is a land of minorities. Add the biggest three ethnic groups, and the minorities will end up being more in terms of numbers.

And if the inevitable happens, igbos will be on their own. Both the middle belt and the south south or the Niger delta will not come to the help of igbos or want to die for igbos to have a country to dominate. Whether in Nigeria, in Biafra or in small independent countries, those ethnicities in the Middle East belt and in the Niger delta will remain minorities. Corruption cuts across ethnic groups. So what would they really stand to gain by dying for igbos? The igbos will end up besieged and beaten again if the inevitable (war) happens and may God forbid that.

Those few voices outside the five Igbo states cheering the igbos to secede will be no where to be found if the worst happens. The northerners will literally have a picnic in the south east, again! It will be really messy for igbos and they may never ever recover or survive as a group again. In fact, after such loss and dent to their image, anything Igbo may end up being treated like pariah. So those with much adrenaline flowing in their blood should think well before following the loud mouth of Kanu who may well end up proven to be an empty barrel.

Secession and partition are not child's play. I fully believe that self determination is human right. But in time of conflict, human right is abused. And how worse if the abuses and divisions are a never ending spiral? More or less a Pandora box! Half bread is better than none. Greed is a vice not a virtue.

Biafra as an Igbo nation extends beyond the 5 SE states and has access to the sea. Study your map.

Onyocha:
When you developed those places, was there Biafra over there? Who's stopping you from developing your states? If your people are not even convinced to invest in those five states in times of peace, will they be foolish enough to invest in them in times of conflict? As igbos like money and are greedy? I Doubt! Your Biafra project is just political blackmail. Nothing more.

Is your state more developed than mine?

Following

Lwkmd. Why are people having nightmares over this issue? Arable land ke, IDP Camp ni let us hear word. Igbos have made their firm decision, no amount of writeup will solve anything.

Let me make this simple....

Igbos exist outside of the 5 SE state. My hometown is outside of the 5 SE state. My hometown is part of modern day delta state and I'll simplify this to all this savages of waste

NO WAY IN THE DEEP PART OF HELL I'm I stayed in this shithole with the rest of your savages when SE igbos leaves. No way in hell. I know the same applies to all my people in my area likewise igbo territories in River state as I've actually been in their groups reading their convo on Biafra.

Get that through una thick head. I rather die than be part of your worthless Niggeria when Biafra is created.

Do Nigerians actually think that the rest of Eastern Nigeria will remain in Nigeria once the Igbo leave?

That is laughable.

Only people who live outside the East would believe that nonsense.

Onyocha:
If you want to use history, you guys drew blood first. You threw the first punch. Didn't you? Na una start the hate killings and bigotry. Otherwise after independence it was all even. You wanted to dominate. It's part of your agreessive nature to dominate others. And that's bad. If only you remember then that the bible says "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword". It's a classic example here. You drew blood first!

The killings of igbo by northerns in year 1953 is what? Pure love okwuya.

Let me guess, this set of people who were PART of the 1966 coup were igbo okwuya

2. Major Adewale Ademoyega(Yoruba) author of "Why we struck"
3. Capt. G. Adeleke(Yoruba)
5. Lt. Fola Oyewole(Yoruba)author of "The reluctant rebel"
6. Lt. R. Egbiko(Esean)
7. Lt. Tijani Katsina(Hausa/Fulani)
8. Lt. O. Olafemiyan(Yoruba)
9. Capt. Gibson Jalo(Bali)
10. Capt. Swanton(Middle Belt)
11. Lt. Hope Harris Eghagha(Urhobo)
12. Lt. Dag Warribor(Ijaw)
13. 2nd Lt. Saleh Dambo(Hausa)
14. 2nd Lt. John Atom Kpera(Tiv).

This is the reason why I seriously wish igbos get the hell away from you savages of Niggeria. We are better off away from you pigs than together with you pigs

Nonaira1:
Let me make this simple....

Igbos exist outside of the 5 SE state. My hometown is outside of the 5 SE state. My hometown is part of modern day delta state and I'll simplify this to all this savages of waste

NO WAY IN THE DEEP PART OF HELL I'm I stayed in this shithole with the rest of your savages when SE igbos leaves. No way in hell. I know the same applies to all my people in my area likewise igbo territories in River state as I've actually been in their groups reading their convo on Biafra.

Get that through una thick head. I rather die than be part of your worthless Niggeria when Biafra is created.

Deep in their hearts, they know that everything you said is true and that they won't separate igbos in the south east and south south and possibly other non Igbo minorities when Biafra comes. That has been their biggest fear and that's why they keep opening similar threads like this.

Each day about 4 to 5 threads like this are opened. They are doing it out of fear of what's to come.

Freemancipation:
Deep in their hearts, they know that everything you said is true and that they won't separate igbos in the south east and south south and possibly other non Igbo minorities when Biafra comes. That has been their biggest fear and that's why they keep opening similar threads like this.

Each day about 4 to 5 threads like this are opened. They are doing it out of fear of what's to come.

I know.
But it's all good. Come Oct 1st, let me see how they plan to force us to stay with their Niggeria when Biafra is announced.

Nonaira1:
I know.
But it's all good. Come Oct 1st, let me see how they plan to force us to stay with their Niggeria when Biafra is announced.

Don't scream pogom

johnserek:
Don't scream pogom

You killed people by surprise with the assistance of the military and you are talking compared to now,,where we all know wtf you clowns plan.

Heck your shameless clownish military eveb got their ass whipped by biafran soliders that they had to result to starving unarmed civilians just to weaken the biafran military

ND militants whipped your military ass that they resulted to bribery to stop them.


BH is constantly making a fool of your military that they resulted to oppressing stories about them, telling us propaganda and equally shamelessly showing us over dated weapons that the rest of the world overpriced and sold to them and like the typical stupid negroes, they bought it.

Common GTFO.
Common October 1st, we'll see whether You'll force us to stay in your shithole when SE leaves.

@ Onyocha

Which weed is influencing you that Igboland starts and end in the SE.

Igboland in the SS and Benue/Kogi axis will all be pulled out

Annang, Ibibio, Efik, Oron, Ijaw, Idoma etc people will all get the chance to run out of Nigeria to Biafra


Put this at the back of your ignorant mind that Biafra will comprise of lots more tribes who understand each other

Others have said what I was going to say. I just want to remind the agents of division that the last president of Biafra, General Philip Effiong, was not an Igbo man

Onyocha:
These are the reasons why I believe Biafra will not succeed and igbos have no way to succeed in creating their own country. In fact, if eventually igbos are given their own country, it will be so full of hunger, division, and conflict that they may eventually beg for the northerners to return and rule over them.

When you hear northerners begging the FG to let igbos go, consider the below reasons. Pay close attention at no. 4!

1.) if Biafra is to happen, it will be limited to five states. Nigeria will not hand over the Niger delta to the igbos even if the south south will eventually get its own independence on a different date and separately. What the north will not have, the igbos cannot get.

2.) Niger deltans either do not want to be part of Biafra or will eventually not want to remain in Biafra. That means conflict and even bloodshed. If the igbos think their Biafra will be a mini version of Nigeria where they will have hegemony over the Niger delta, and its oil, that is Satan dreaming of making it to heaven.

3.) the international community have nothing to gain from Biafra. And it will never want bloodshed and conflict that will send oil prices skyrocketing due to conflict between igbos and Niger deltans.

4.) if Nigeria is to allow the five Igbo states to conduct referendum today and give them independence, Biafra will literally be like Lesotho. A country within a country. (If you do not know how Lesotho looks like, please check you world map. It is a country inside South Africa; and Nigeria or neighbors won't be to Biafra what South Africa is to Lesotho). Nigeria can close its borders with a thick fence and close its airspace to Biafra of five Igbo states. Literally, your clamor for independence will end up being cries of siege. It will be hunger and poverty.

5.) igbos of five states clamoring for independence is not geographically feasible. It is like kanuris in parts of the north asking for independence. Your landmass is poorly situated. It's not even about the size. Your Biafra of five states is inside another country if your dream ever come to pass.

6.) the north can feed itself and Biafra cannot. Arable land is in abundance in the north and the north has been a bastion of agriculture.

7.) the north is a big market economically. It's landmass and population means big business. It is a big consumer market. That is money.

With your independence turning into a siege, you're literally finished. No agriculture of the north and no Niger delta oil for you and in an hostile environment, you are doomed. And this doom will also affect others. Therefore your Biafra project is aimed at destruction for everyone. To bring down the house on everyone's heads; and that is why many will stand against it to prevent such destruction from happening.

And far from being peaceful, no partition goes smoothly in places with ethnic and religious divisions and rivalry. Take example of India and Pakistan.

The best bet for igbos is to forge alliances across the nation and even go as far as mending fences with the north. People like okorocha and Amaechi have done well in that line of building bridges with the northerners.

You can clamor for restructuring or whatever it is called. Division of Nigeria will not end with a Biafra of anything more than five states. It will witness multiple divisions in both the south and the north. It could see continuos wars, famine and starvation which will be rampant in the north. Five states with 30 to 40 million igbos will be too populated with little sustenance or means for survival.

You will definitely not eat your cake and have it after asking for division. And that's where the north is hitting hard by asking igbos to leave. Such divisions means igbos starting from ZERO. You can't ask for your country and still try to live, and work elsewhere and want to control lands of other minorities.

As Nigeria is, it is not a land of a majority. It is a land of minorities. Add the biggest three ethnic groups, and the minorities will end up being more in terms of numbers.

And if the inevitable happens, igbos will be on their own. Both the middle belt and the south south or the Niger delta will not come to the help of igbos or want to die for igbos to have a country to dominate. Whether in Nigeria, in Biafra or in small independent countries, those ethnicities in the Middle East belt and in the Niger delta will remain minorities. Corruption cuts across ethnic groups. So what would they really stand to gain by dying for igbos? The igbos will end up besieged and beaten again if the inevitable (war) happens and may God forbid that.

Those few voices outside the five Igbo states cheering the igbos to secede will be no where to be found if the worst happens. The northerners will literally have a picnic in the south east, again! It will be really messy for igbos and they may never ever recover or survive as a group again. In fact, after such loss and dent to their image, anything Igbo may end up being treated like pariah. So those with much adrenaline flowing in their blood should think well before following the loud mouth of Kanu who may well end up proven to be an empty barrel.

Secession and partition are not child's play. I fully believe that self determination is human right. But in time of conflict, human right is abused. And how worse if the abuses and divisions are a never ending spiral? More or less a Pandora box! Half bread is better than none. Greed is a vice not a virtue.

You are a kid. So, igbo land ends in states created yesterday. You need to read about Nigeria.

Mynd44, don't you think it's a huge hypocricy to allow this thread and a host of other igbo-hating and Biafra-bashing threads to linger on Nairaland, while hastely hiding and deleting all sensible and positive threads about Biafra?

Do you guys really have to be amoral?

For example, why on earth did you remove the following amazingly beautiful thread on Biafra?

https://www.nairaland.com/3871388/4-outrageous-policies-which-biafra#57673335

The original post on that thread did not mention Nigeria or seceession any where. So why remove it? Or do you really think that anyone can supress this thing?

The least you could have done was to hide or delete every thread that mentions igbo or Biafra on Nairaland. But if you cannot do that, then it is silly to remove sane threads on the topic.

And for that reason I implore you to restore this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/3871388/4-outrageous-policies-which-biafra#57673335

If you fail to restore it soon enough I may have to recreate it a million times more - from a million accounts and a million IP adrresses - if that's what you want.