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i do not agree with you. i had an uncle who lived almost all his civil service life in SE nigeria. it will suprise you to know that no body was ready to sell a property to him, they rather rent properties to him than to sell. no matter the value of such property.

Ahmadgani:
i do not agree with you. i had an uncle who lived almost all his civil service life in SE nigeria. it will suprise you to know that no body was ready to sell a property to him, they rather rent properties to him than to sell. no matter the value of such property.

Gbam. Let him continue to stew in his delusions...op go back home and ask your people questions...

BabaRamota1980:
Im surprised to hear Ibo declare North a non hostile region. Very surprised! Anything just to win points eh? ....and you call it intelligent discussion.

u called Igbo hostile? I thought the North was non-hostile to u people?

Ok.. mention one non-Igbo region that u consider non-hostile and lemme ask u how many properties the yorubas own there

smellingmenses:
You have raised no issue at all. Bottom line is that the Igbo are not tolerant at all.

You are greedy selfish.. evil minded.... Well versed in dark arts... Deceitful.. egoistic...name it... you have all the antisocial attributes.... especially when you have a reasonable population...

Igbos are not tolerant as you said but how many properties does yorubas have in friendly non Igbo teritories in Nigeria outside Yorubaland?

Nna money is the motivation. All die na die sha.

vanunu:
The OP is asking why Northerners and Yoruba's have refused to buy properties in places like Calabar, Warri and Port Harcourt, are these places also in Igbo land. There is nothing like unity in Nigeria, one Nigeria is simply because of oil.

Yoruba have a lot of properties in ph... Warri is an itsekiri kingdom... Cousins to the Yoruba empire..we are there... And they're not in Igbo land. The op has delusional issues

EmekaMD:
it's ok if u don't invest in igboland for other reasons best to u. But it's not ok if u peddle lies that we don't wanna let in buy our lands or rent our shops..

U get my point?

Because you are very deficient in social skills. You lack the innate ability to reach across humbly and embrace....you turn others OFF!

How does a hostile and arrogant woman get a man? She has first to rebrand herself.

Get out of here dude....Ibo need a new image, period!

smellingmenses:
Exactly. I remember the iddiots in Akure wearing a crown to the Oba's palace.. calling himself ezendigbo and expressing arrogance unbridled at the palace... Seems like the Igbo have their brains wrongly configured..
Trust Akure youths to strip him nakedd and flog him on the streets​..

But in Calabar and port harcourt, the yoruba community there have their oba, and nobody is disturbing them.

vanunu:
But in Calabar and poetry, the yoruba community there have their oba, and nobody is disturbing them.

Calabar is not Igbo land. And the oba there has never been rude to the Obong of Calabar..has he? Now please stay on the Igbo discuss. Calabar is not Igbo.

BabaRamota1980:
Get out of here dude!

You are hostile to others....how do you expect them to bring investment to you?

Fix that fundamental first, build bridges...and the traffic will come.

Igbos are the most peaceful people.

How much property and stationary businesses do Northerners own in the Southwest outside Lagos (former capital)?

How much property and businesses do Yorubas own in the North outside Abuja?
I love the questions, great points from Azuka Onwuka-Punch newspaper

smellingmenses:
Calabar is not Igbo land. And the oba there has never been rude to the Obong of Calabar..has he? Now please stay on the Igbo discuss. Calabar is not Igbo.

They Yoruba's also have their Oba in enugu and other eastern cities

smellingmenses:
Yoruba have a lot of properties in ph... Warri is an itsekiri kingdom... Cousins to the Yoruba empire..we are there... And they're not in Igbo land. The op has delusional issues

I don't think you have travelled to south south states.

smellingmenses:
Go ahead and count. Igbo will remain underdeveloped and backward with your intolerant attitude.

Underdevelop and backward boy your ignorant is worst than 9 months old baby, I'm 1000000% you've not been to east, Southwest is second most backward and undeveloped region after North, outside Lagos no man's land.

Ahmadgani:
i do not agree with you. i had an uncle who lived almost all his civil service life in SE nigeria. it will suprise you to know that no body was ready to sell a property to him, they rather rent properties to him than to sell. no matter the value of such property.

I can assure u that that is the fattest lie ur own has ever told u in his lifetime..

First.. u people say igbos love money and secondly u say they hate themselves..
How would someone who loved money would refuse to sell land to ur Uncle if he was the highest bidder?

Oh ok.. maybe u mean ur Uncle told u Igbos refused to dash him land right??

Ahmadgani:
i do not agree with you. i had an uncle who lived almost all his civil service life in SE nigeria. it will suprise you to know that no body was ready to sell a property to him, they rather rent properties to him than to sell. no matter the value of such property.

That uncle of yours is a pathological liar, either he has no money to purchase land or scared to invest in Southeast

In my village alone which is a thick village anyways but developed as every typical igbo village littered with beautiful mansions and recreational joints, If you don't have atleast 2million(if you are lucky), don't even come and price land there. Just imagine carrying a yoruba man to my village to buy land, he will first think that it is a village and why should he buy land there when that 1.5million would get it an acre in a typical village in the southwest or two plots at the outskirts of Ibadan or oshogbo....

and obviously, as a property investor, his wish is to invest in the city, but when he gets to the city and they tell him a plot of land is 10million, he will say they dont want to sell land to him, that was why they increased the cost instead of him admitting his poverty and his un-seriousness to by the land. Truly these people are not only myopic,primordial and local, they are just too cowardly for my liking.

BabaRamota1980:
Get out of here dude!

You are hostile to others....how do you expect them to bring investment to you?

Fix that fundamental first, build bridges...and the traffic will come.

ok. But how many westerners and notherners has properties in Bayelsa, Edo, Delta?

FKO81:
That uncle of yours is a pathological liar, either he has no money purchase to land or scared to invest in Southeast

keep on deceiving yourself. i do not argue with people who are sentimental. i am talking about reality and not fallacy

IloveMoney:
In my village alone which is a thick village anyways but developed as every typical igbo village littered with beautiful mansions and recreational joints, If you don't have atleast 2million(if you are lucky), don't even come and price land there. Just imagine carrying a yoruba man to my village to buy land, he will first think that it is a village and why should he buy land there when that 1.5million would get it an acre in a typical village in the southwest or two plots at the outskirts of Ibadan or oshogbo....

and obviously, as a property investor, his which is to invest in the city, but when he gets to the city and they tell him a plot of land is 10million, he will say they dont want to sell land to him, that was why they increased the cost instead of him admitting his poverty and his un-seriousness to by the land. Truly these people are not only myopic,primordial and local, they are just too cowardly for my liking.

that's exactly the point Bro.. but they won't agree

EmekaMD:
I can assure u that that is the fattest lie ur own has ever told u in his lifetime..

First.. u people say igbos love money and secondly u say they hate themselves..
How would someone who loved money would refuse to sell land to ur Uncle if he was the highest bidder?

Oh ok.. maybe u mean ur Uncle told u Igbos refused to dash him land right??

god forbid. i rather dash u land than to beg for land. its true and i can prove it once i lay my hands on some evidence

Those easterners are simply hostile and intolerant, most of the shops own by outsider in that region are often broken and properties stolen. And igbo do sell land to outsider, but in a different perspection. A yoruba man in lagos will sale a land to an igbo or hausa or any other tribe the price he will sell to his yoruba kinsmen. An igbo man in enugu will tag a boring and unwarrant prize to a land provided his an outsider. imagine u are to buy a plot of land at nnewi village at the rate of 50 million when u are aware a lot of igbo buy theirs at rate less than 5 million will u can get a plot of land in asokoro, abuja or lekki lagos with that prize if u meet a good dealer. The point is an igbo man has no intention to sell land to outsider but will do that if the outsider can bear the overbearing cost out of love of money am saying this out of experience

Ahmadgani:
keep on deceiving yourself. i do not argue with people who are sentimental. i am talking about reality and not fallacy

You and your uncle are the ones deceiving yourselves, either he doesn't have enough money to buy land in the east because lands are expensive when compare to north or west outside Lagos/Abuja or scared of Igbos.

Lol... So many Yoruba's I know own properties in Port Harcourt. I mean so so many. I know a particular Yoruba family that owns 2 houses in Port harcourt, Hausa's too. Don't compare PH to igboland.

Eastwalk:
Those easterners are simply hostile and intolerant, most of the shops own by outsider in that region are often broken and properties stolen. And igbo do sell land to outsider, but in a different perspection. A yoruba man in lagos will sale a land to an igbo or hausa or any other tribe the price he will sell to his yoruba kinsmen. An igbo man in enugu will tag a boring and unwarrant prize to a land provided his an outsider. imagine u are to buy a plot of land at nnewi village at the rate of 50 million when u are aware a lot of igbo buy theirs at rate less than 5 million will u can get a plot of land in asokoro, abuja or lekki lagos with that prize if u meet a good dealer. The point is an igbo man has no intention to sell land to outsider but will do that if the outsider can bear the overbearing cost out of love of money am saying this out of experience

Conehead leave your mud enclave and visit east,
Why are you not investig in the north outside Abuja

Ahmadgani:
god forbid. i rather dash u land than to beg for land. its true and i can prove it once i lay my hands on some evidence

u should've waited to lay ur hands on those evidence before mentioning the untrue here dude..

EmekaMD:
Baseless lie about property in Igboland

By Azuka Onwuka

There is a baseless lie many Northerners and Southwesterners have repeated for long that they now believe it to be true, and they have continued to pass it on to their children. That blatant lie is that the reason they don't have much property or businesses in Igboland like the Igbos have in other parts of the country is because Igbos don't sell property to them or rent shops to them.

The Arewa Youths repeated that lie in their letter to the Acting President thus:

"And since the Igbo have virtually infiltrated every nook and cranny of Northern Nigeria where they have been received with open arms as fellow compatriots, we strongly believe that the region is no longer safe and secure in the light of the unfolding threats and the fact that for a long time, the Igbo have gone to extra ordinary lengths to ensure that in their domain in the South East, Northerners and Westerners are as much as possible disenfranchised from owning any businesses whereas in Kano alone, they own not less than 100,000 shops across all the business districts."

I have thrown a challenge many times on this but nobody took up my challenge. I made myself available to help anybody buy property in Nnewi and give that person a signed promise that nothing will ever happen to that property and also make my children take over that pledge when I am gone. Mind you, a storey building sells for as much as N200 million in some parts of Nnewi. So don't think it is some place where nobody wants to buy from.

The simple question to ask those who make this baseless claim is, if Igbos don't sell property to them, don't Edos, Efiks, Ijaws, Ur hobos, etc in the South-South sell to them too? How many lands and shops do Northerners and Westerners own in Calabar or Benin or Uyo or Warri, etc?

How much property and stationary businesses do Northerners own in the Southwest outside Lagos (former capital)?

How much property and businesses do Yorubas own in the North outside Abuja?

So what is the reason for that?

I have urged some Hausas and Yorubas in Nnewi to buy property but some of them smiled knowingly and kept quiet, while some told me plainly that they can't take such a risk with the way things are in Nigeria.

The problem is simply fear of the unknown. Most Nigerians - minus the Igbos - have this fear that there will still be trouble in future. So they go into any state outside their region with a bag to do their business and leave when they are done. Many don't even go with their wife and children for fear of the unknown. They believe that it is only the former FCT (Lagos) or present FCT (Abuja) that is less risky to invest in.

Most people don't understand what drives Igbos in their business and investment decisions. Igbos don't buy property in other parts of Nigeria because of any special treatment given to them by their hosts. They buy property in spite of all that goes with property and the risk involved. They lose their money to fraudsters and omonile regularly in the Southwest. They lose their property to government demolition of property. Yet they invest in property because they see property as a profitable investment, and they hate to continue to be tenants forever. An Igbo man wants to be his own master (landlord) as quickly as possible.

Igbos have lost their property and businesses to burning, destruction and looting repeatedly in riots in the North. They have even been killed repeatedly. Yet they return to rebuild.

A few years after the abandoned property saga in Port Harcourt, Igbos returned to Port Harcourt and began buying property again like crazy. Even when they are warned of the possibility of a repeat of 1970, they still go ahead to invest in property.

Obasanjo has had some land in Enugu since the 1970s when he was head of state. He has not developed the land till today. Buhari said in his asset declaration that he has some land in Port Harcourt (probably given to him free of charge). He doesn't even know where the land is, not to talk of developing it. Yet these are heads of state who fought for the unity of this nation and are always talking about one Nigeria and need to believe in Nigeria. Yet they don't even have faith in investing outside their regions or FCT.

Igbos believe that crisis and loss will not make one not to make an investment decision. Their thinking is: "What if I don't invest and nothing happens eventually to the businesses or property around? Will I bring back the hand of the clock? But even if I invest and it is lost, life goes on. Life is a risk."

It sounds like a crazy way to think but that is how they are. No other Nigerian ethnic group thinks like this. That is why some people who don't travel assume that the reason Igbos live in large numbers in other ethnic groups and even return to places where they are killed is because Igboland is not developed. Even if you have never travelled to Igboland, please Google the CBN report of the six states that control 90% cash transactions in Nigeria.

The simple reality is that Igbos are wierd risk takers when it comes to business and investment. Other ethnic groups don't have such a trait. People are different.

The reason we do these intermittent interventions is to ensure that things are put in their right perspective, for those who care for the truth; for it was such falsehood that was spread in 1966 and used as a justification for the genocide against the Igbos that year.

Shops are available in Igboland, if you have the money and have the thick skin to compete. Land is available for purchase in all parts of Igboland, if you have the money. Igbos are business-oriented. They sell or rent their property to the highest bidder. And once the transaction is done, it is done. No stories.

Just keeping the record straight.

It's well with u Emeka. Chukwu gozie gi

FKO81:
Conehead leave your mud enclave and visit east,
Why are you not investig in the north outside Abuja

Excuse me am not a yoruba, if that what u implies. And from experience too i know the yorubas not to be loud mouth, they archieve without bragging. Why their igbo counterpart brags alot at any little success even chinua achebe confirms that.

sean1000x:
My brother God bless you. Afonjas are the people peddling that monstrous lie. The fact is simple...they don't have disposable income like Igbos to acquire properties in SE, SS and even in their regions. Go to Lagos, how many Yorubaas own properties there? Not many. In my street when I was living there, all properties were owned by Igbos and few SS and Northerners. All Yorubaas are renting in their land. How do you expect them to buy properties in SE and SS, when they can't even buy properties in their own land? Buy in your land first before looking to buy elsewhere. Igbos own 99% of the properties in their region.

Thats how they will loose it when Nnamdi Kanu declares Biafra... Go back home and develop your region.. nobody goes to your region, why come to other peoples region... Greedy fellows