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smellingmenses:
LOL [s]this your tales are for people who have no knowledge of history..... you Igbo people connive and loot the shops of non Igbo rendering them bankrupt. I believe that's what you meant by thick skin to compete.

We Yoruba have not forgotten how you murdered the Oshogbo major spare parts dealer which resulted in you being forbidden from selling car spare parts in Oshogbo till today and tomorrow. That is your meaning of thick skin to compete....

..... Obasanjo having a piece of land in Biafra is symbolic... After all he CONQUERED​ Biafra. But it should worry you that he chose not to develop it at all....

Meanwhile no sane Yoruba man can ever think of investing in Igbo land....not one.... Not yesterday..today or ever. We will rather invest in the North... Yes the north and south south.

You mentioned portharcourt ...the garden city is NOT Igbo land...never has been and never will be... In Nigeria of today we can show you what Igbo have been allowed to have in all states especially in the West ...

I dare you to show us pictorially​ the properties of all other tribes Hausa Fulani, Yoruba, ijaw, itsekiri, urhobo, ikwerre, igala, Tiv, jukun, igala and idoma properties in all Igbo state capitals. You lot are simply intolerant...

Don't create stupid threads next time... For I will be more prepared to expose your lies...at all times.[/s]

you saying rivers is not an Igbo state shows how stupid you are.

Am from rivers and am igbo

cowardafonja:
It's well with u Emeka. Chukwu gozie gi

Ya gozikuo gi nwa Oma.. it's high time we told our story ourselves and stop the distorted lies theyve peddled for centuries jus to discredit us

EmekaMD:
Let's make an informed and intelligent argument strictly based on this issue I've raised here alone.. all other issues would be addressed one after another.. trust me Fams..

This thread is not meant for the unintelligent and the bigoted minds.. so no name calling or ethic bashing here pls..

Only intelligent argument I repeat!!!

The post is far from reality as I have personally witnessed it before. Earlier this year, I had made up my mind to secure a land somewhere around Emene and I asked a lawyer friend at the office who believed it was a good idea. The long and short of it was an agent, my lawyer friend and another friend set out to inspect a land in the said area after an agent claimed there was a cheap land a family wanted to sell off. We got there, inspected it and felt uncomfortable as the land was overpriced. After so many talks, the agent asked my lawyer friend when he would be making payments so that he could inform the family that owns the land. My friend told him he wasn't the one interested that it was me. Immediately, he said it might not fly because he is not sure the family would want to transfer the property to a non-Igbo. I wasn't shocked really because I had been hearing of that a while. Frankly speaking, I didn't have enough cash at hand and had accessed a loan which was made open.

Interestingly, the agent claimed I could buy it in the name of someone while the property remains mine, but who does that? Who buys a property in someone's name when he didn't launder or commit a crime?

This happened in January and it has really left me puzzled. I hear there are a few non Igbo property owners here and I've been trying to figure out how they did it.

For me, a pointer to all these which supports this weird practice is the chant of 'Anambra is the only state with indigenous companies cum manufacturers'. This in itself is an indication that something is wrong and outsiders are not entertained as they could be muscled out since the goal is for indigenous companies alone. A region, state, or a society would experience stunted growth if it is not open to outsiders, and I believe this is loud and clear enough.

onyfrank:
ok. But how many westerners and notherners has properties in Bayelsa, Edo, Delta?

lol! Thruout my stay in benin,..the only yorubas I encountered were agbo jedi sellers, a few tailors and just one man selling talkin drums at lagos street.I hardly met a yoruba trader,much less a yoruba landlord. So benin is equally hostile to dem?

I met hausa ppl alot,but only wheelbarrow pushers and multitude of laborers dat sleep at. Mosques. They won't even rent a room from benin landlords sef talkleSs of ownng a single plot of land. Benin is also not selling to strangers?

zionmade:
Come on shut up there liar. I mean shut ur mouth ur lie is stinking, i mean very stinking. Is it my ph or is therw another ph ur yoruba people own properties? U have not even left the west and u re here talking Rubbish. The only business yorubas do in ph is taxi driving and selling ogogoro, or maybe were u talking of taxi as properties. Just call d location of one single landed property owned by yoruba in d entire south south. Even in akwa ibom d presence of yoruba is zero except those that peddled their way to eket. In the North yoruba owns nothing, even the market they sell in are owned by Igbos. I have been to all northern states, so mention one. Shut up there.

I know many Yoruba families that own properties in PH.
Many ex AGIP, Shell, even Michelin workers of Yoruba stock own properties in PH.

Op I feel you.. are you a property agent?

Yoruba s I know, though very feel own properties in igbo, is not visible simply because is very few, major reason is because the don't have money.apart from abuja, Lagos and ph , property is more expensive in igbo land than other regions .another reason is fear of unknown

OP land no dey for SE, you Igbo people are simply landless as in NO LAND. Even the tiny midget land suffers from erosion, land slides, muddy mess. And the local people look like hungry hyenas and cause a lot of fear reason some Igbos don't go home again.

Wetin man go take land in such primitive place do?

GavelSlam:
I know many Yoruba families that own properties in PH.
Many ex AGIP, Shell, even Michelin workers of Yoruba stock own properties in PH.

. When I used to live in that Niggeria, I lived in Rivers state and I don't recall ever seeing a yoruba with a property anywhere in that state. Most of the Yorubas I met growing up were renting.

I am highly highly suspicious of una claims considering I had a yoruba on this forum told me that people in miami worships yoruba and even speaks yoruba and when asked to tell me exactly where in miami that is so I can videotape it as verification, that Nigga swerved quick. I don't trust y'all claims ooo.

Since during my years in Rivers state, I've never met a yoruba who owned properties in that state, therefore, where exactly is this plenty yoruba properties in PH so we can have Chino or even the guy you quoted videotape it and post as verification for us ooo.

Sanchez01:
The post is far from reality as I have personally witnessed it before. Earlier this year, I had made up my mind to secure a land somewhere around Emene and I asked a lawyer friend at the office who believed it was a good idea. The long and short of it was an agent, my lawyer friend and another friend set out to inspect a land in the said area after an agent claimed there was a cheap land a family wanted to sell off. We got there, inspected it and felt uncomfortable as the land was overpriced. After so many talks, the agent asked my lawyer friend when he would be making payments so that he could inform the family that owns the land. My friend told him he wasn't the one interested that it was me. Immediately, he said it might not fly because he is not sure the family would want to transfer the property to a non-Igbo. I wasn't shocked really because I had been hearing of that a while. Frankly speaking, I didn't have enough cash at hand and had accessed a loan which was made open.

Interestingly, the agent claimed I could buy it in the name of someone while the property remains mine, but who does that? Who buys a property in someone's name when he didn't launder or commit a crime?

This happened in January and it has really left me puzzled. I hear there are a few non Igbo property owners here and I've been trying to figure out how they did it.

For me, a pointer to all these which supports this weird practice is the chant of 'Anambra is the only state with indigenous companies cum manufacturers'. This in itself is an indication that something is wrong and outsiders are not entertained as they could be muscled out since the goal is for indigenous companies alone. A region, state, or a society would experience stunted growth if it is not open to outsiders, and I believe this is loud and clear enough.

What part of Emene Sir?

Nonaira1:
. When I used to live in that Niggeria, I lived in Rivers state and I don't recall ever seeing a yoruba with a property anywhere in that state. Most of the Yorubas I met growing up were renting.

I am highly highly suspicious of una claims considering I had a yoruba on this forum told me that there are people in miami worships yoruba and even speaks yoruba and when asked to tell me exactly where in miami that is so I can videotape it as verification, that Nigga swerved quick. I don't trust y'all claims ooo.

Since during my years in Rivers state, I've never met a yoruba wjo oqed propwrties in that state, Like where exactly is this plenty yoruba properties in PH so we can have Chino or even the guy you quoted videotape it and post as verification for us ooo.

So I should give you specific names so they can be attacked or what?

Just do a little unbiased research.

The bolded is lethal. Pls have the fear of God.

xnsandrxns:
How will a sane person leave his land and go to iboland when all the ibos themselves are running away from home
They are the most hateful tribe in Nigeria and everybody is wary of being among them
And besides we don't do urban-rural migration

BabaRamota1980:
Get out of here dude!

You are hostile to others....how do you expect them to bring investment to you?

Fix that fundamental first, build bridges...and the traffic will come.

bros no vex oo, just curous, is anyone begging you to invest in igboland??

We know thos is true but they keep trying to deceive people. Not working!

Ahmadgani:
i do not agree with you. i had an uncle who lived almost all his civil service life in SE nigeria. it will suprise you to know that no body was ready to sell a property to him, they rather rent properties to him than to sell. no matter the value of such property.

Sanchez01:
The post is far from reality as I have personally witnessed it before. Earlier this year, I had made up my mind to secure a land somewhere around Emene and I asked a lawyer friend at the office who believed it was a good idea. The long and short of it was an agent, my lawyer friend and another friend set out to inspect a land in the said area after an agent claimed there was a cheap land a family wanted to sell off. We got there, inspected it and felt uncomfortable as the land was overpriced. After so many talks, the agent asked my lawyer friend when he would be making payments so that he could inform the family that owns the land. My friend told him he wasn't the one interested that it was me. Immediately, he said it might not fly because he is not sure the family would want to transfer the property to a non-Igbo. I wasn't shocked really because I had been hearing of that a while. Frankly speaking, I didn't have enough cash at hand and had accessed a loan which was made open.

Interestingly, the agent claimed I could buy it in the name of someone while the property remains mine, but who does that? Who buys a property in someone's name when he didn't launder or commit a crime?

This happened in January and it has really left me puzzled. I hear there are a few non Igbo property owners here and I've been trying to figure out how they did it.

For me, a pointer to all these which supports this weird practice is the chant of 'Anambra is the only state with indigenous companies cum manufacturers'. This in itself is an indication that something is wrong and outsiders are not entertained as they could be muscled out since the goal is for indigenous companies alone. A region, state, or a society would experience stunted growth if it is not open to outsiders, and I believe this is loud and clear enough.

everything u penned down here sounds cooked up bro.. that's the truth..
Do u still wanna buy the land now? I can assist u and make sure u bought it as the best rate lands are priced around there.. but I don't you're saying the truth.. I've never heard or seen things like these anywhere in igboland..

GavelSlam:
So I should give you specific names so they can be attacked or what?

Just do a little unbiased research.

You just said you know plenty of yoruba workers with properties in PH. Give us exactly where since most of us that lived or currently living in the state in question have never met such, story moves to "so they'll be attacked".

Na who the f2k will attack them? If noone attacked them befpre, why would they be attacked now.

Anyway, to be honest, I expected that post changing reply so not shocked

smellingmenses:
LOL this your tales are for people who have no knowledge of history..... you Igbo people connive and loot the shops of non Igbo rendering them bankrupt. I believe that's what you meant by thick skin to compete.

We Yoruba have not forgotten how you murdered the Oshogbo major spare parts dealer which resulted in you being forbidden from selling car spare parts in Oshogbo till today and tomorrow. That is your meaning of thick skin to compete....

..... Obasanjo having a piece of land in Biafra is symbolic... After all he CONQUERED​ Biafra. But it should worry you that he chose not to develop it at all....

Meanwhile no sane Yoruba man can ever think of investing in Igbo land....not one.... Not yesterday..today or ever. We will rather invest in the North... Yes the north and south south.

You mentioned portharcourt ...the garden city is NOT Igbo land...never has been and never will be... In Nigeria of today we can show you what Igbo have been allowed to have in all states especially in the West ...

I dare you to show us pictorially​ the properties of all other tribes Hausa Fulani, Yoruba, ijaw, itsekiri, urhobo, ikwerre, igala, Tiv, jukun, igala and idoma properties in all Igbo state capitals. You lot are simply intolerant...

Don't create stupid threads next time... For I will be more prepared to expose your lies...at all times.

This is your answer..Forget your long story.


The simple question to ask those who make this baseless claim is, if Igbos don't sell property to them, don't Edos, Efiks, Ijaws, Ur hobos, etc in the South-South sell to them too? How many lands and shops do Northerners and Westerners own in Calabar or Benin or Uyo or Warri, etc?

How much property and stationary businesses do Northerners own in the Southwest outside Lagos (former capital)?

How much property and businesses do Yorubas own in the North outside Abuja?

The northerners that sell forex in Enugu...Do they do it on the streets? Don't they own shops and officers? It is a shame for old people to be lying...Honestly...

spyder880:
This cannot happen in Emene.

Well, it did happen in Emene. The same Emene in Enugu East and I believe the reason is because most lands in the East (I stand to be corrected) are owned by families. Therefore, the families wield their little power over how they want the land to go to and so on. Truth is, I haven't tried again since then because it's needless. Should I feel itchy to do something as that again, truth is it wouldn't be here.

Lands in Lagos are not controlled by families and should their be any, then be sure it is the local head of the community whose family wield power over the lands in the area. I make to Lagos because I understand how it is done there.

sean1000x:
My brother God bless you. Afonjas are the people peddling that monstrous lie. The fact is simple...they don't have disposable income like Igbos to acquire properties in SE, SS and even in their regions. Go to Lagos, how many Yorubaas own properties there? Not many. In my street when I was living there, all properties were owned by Igbos and few SS and Northerners. All Yorubaas are renting in their land. How do you expect them to buy properties in SE and SS, when they can't even buy properties in their own land? Buy in your land first before looking to buy elsewhere. Igbos own 99% of the properties in their region.

I don't even care about this issue that much nor do I have hate. But next time you beat your chest, use more believable statistics like 30%, 40% or even 50% or 60%. Saying 99% takes away from your credibility thus making your claim seem unbelievable.

sean1000x:
My brother God bless you. Afonjas are the people peddling that monstrous lie. The fact is simple...they don't have disposable income like Igbos to acquire properties in SE, SS and even in their regions. Go to Lagos, how many Yorubaas own properties there? Not many. In my street when I was living there, all properties were owned by Igbos and few SS and Northerners. All Yorubaas are renting in their land. How do you expect them to buy properties in SE and SS, when they can't even buy properties in their own land? Buy in your land first before looking to buy elsewhere. Igbos own 99% of the properties in their region.

keep deceiving yourself, 99% indeed.

Sanchez01:
Well, it did happen in Emene. The same Emene in Enugu East and I believe the reason is because most lands in the East (I stand to be corrected) are owned by families. Therefore, the families wield their little power over how they want the land to go to and so on. Truth is, I haven't tried again since then because it's needless. Should I feel itchy to do something as that again, truth is it wouldn't be here.

Lands in Lagos are not controlled by families and should their be any, then be sure it is the local head of the community whose family wield power over the lands in the area. I make to Lagos because I understand how it is done there.

I asked because I operate the Emene terrain daily. I own a large estate there and constantly talk with families and agents. We sell to everyone irrespective of their identity.

Ojiofor:
Igbos are not tolerant as you said but how many properties does yorubas have in friendly non Igbo teritories in Nigeria outside Yorubaland?

Yorubas owns thick properties in friendly place like Warri, ph, Abuja outside Yoruba land, in Abuja for example most of the 5 stars hotel are owned by them like I said earlier they don't make noise.

Nicon luxury hotel own by a Yoruba man jimoh Ibrahim the best hotel in Abuja

[img]https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g3869741-d7603883-i185037179-Royal_Birds_Hotels_Towers-Akure_Ondo_State.html [/img]

EmekaMD:
everything u penned down here sounds cooked up bro.. that's the truth..
Do u still wanna buy the land now? I can assist u and make sure u bought it as the best rate lands are priced around there.. but I don't you're saying the truth.. I've never heard or seen things like these anywhere in igboland..

And why would I cook such up? For the first time in years, I spent Christmas away from my family just because of the January event I narrated. I wasn't supposed to let it out because it's personal but the truth is, the post is far from reality, and this is not an attempt to attack you guys.

Unfortunately, I am not in any way seeking to buy one here again, because of the unrest flying around. Now would not be a good time to part away with money and end up losing it.

mightyhaze:
lol! Thruout my stay in benin,..the only yorubas I encountered were agbo jedi sellers, a few tailors and just one man selling talkin drums at lagos street.I hardly met a yoruba trader,much less a yoruba landlord. So benin is equally hostile to dem?

I met hausa ppl alot,but only wheelbarrow pushers and multitude of laborers dat sleep at. Mosques. They won't even rent a room from benin landlords sef talkleSs of ownng a single plot of land. Benin is also not selling to strangers?

Who cares if Yorubas don't have a big presence in Benin or Bayelsa? Is migrating to every region something to be proud of?

EmekaMD:
everything u penned down here sounds cooked up bro.. that's the truth..
Do u still wanna buy the land now? I can assist u and make sure u bought it as the best rate lands are priced around there.. but I don't you're saying the truth.. I've never heard or seen things like these anywhere in igboland..

He doesn't even need to buy from families, there are hundreds of privately owned estates selling lands in every part of the east.

sean1000x:
My brother God bless you. Afonjas are the people peddling that monstrous lie. The fact is simple...they don't have disposable income like Igbos to acquire properties in SE, SS and even in their regions. Go to Lagos, how many Yorubaas own properties there? Not many. In my street when I was living there, all properties were owned by Igbos and few SS and Northerners. All Yorubaas are renting in their land. How do you expect them to buy properties in SE and SS, when they can't even buy properties in their own land? Buy in your land first before looking to buy elsewhere. Igbos own 99% of the properties in their region.

See lies! Mention the street

Eastwalk:
Excuse me am not a yoruba, if that what u implies. And from experience too i know the yorubas not to be loud mouth, they archieve without bragging. Why their igbo counterpart brags alot at any little success even chinua achebe confirms that.

Too smart for your prank, forget your deceitful moniker, I know your chameleon style here, Igbos are richest tribe, most industrious, educated are most peaceful region to live in Nigeria, how can afonja agbo seller, carbucabu driver buy one plot of land of two million in Igbo village or 10-50 million in Igbo cities, that's why when our people tell them price they will think they hike the price because they are not indigene, our people buy same price and develop them, ask yourself why your kinsmen are busy selling their lands to Igbos in your domain because they know Igbos has the cash to buy or rent them at any price, have you ask why Yoruba landlord prefer Igbo tenant To avoid story that touch heart at the end of the year.

Ojiofor:
Igbos are not tolerant as you said but how many properties does yorubas have in friendly non Igbo teritories in Nigeria outside Yorubaland?

They are dodging this your question, like jumping of boko mines.... They know they are lying...

spyder880:
I asked because I operate the Emene terrain daily. I own a large estate there and constantly talk with families and agents. We sell to everyone irrespective of their identity.

Interesting. It should hag even been you then, instead of the family agent I met. For now, I am not thinking of walking that lane since the country is warming up.

I'm sure things would have been a whole lot different if you were in the picture. However, the event had left me with the rumours I had long heard.

EmekaMD:
Baseless lie about property in Igboland

By Azuka Onwuka

There is a baseless lie many Northerners and Southwesterners have repeated for long that they now believe it to be true, and they have continued to pass it on to their children. That blatant lie is that the reason they don't have much property or businesses in Igboland like the Igbos have in other parts of the country is because Igbos don't sell property to them or rent shops to them.

The Arewa Youths repeated that lie in their letter to the Acting President thus:

"And since the Igbo have virtually infiltrated every nook and cranny of Northern Nigeria where they have been received with open arms as fellow compatriots, we strongly believe that the region is no longer safe and secure in the light of the unfolding threats and the fact that for a long time, the Igbo have gone to extra ordinary lengths to ensure that in their domain in the South East, Northerners and Westerners are as much as possible disenfranchised from owning any businesses whereas in Kano alone, they own not less than 100,000 shops across all the business districts."

I have thrown a challenge many times on this but nobody took up my challenge. I made myself available to help anybody buy property in Nnewi and give that person a signed promise that nothing will ever happen to that property and also make my children take over that pledge when I am gone. Mind you, a storey building sells for as much as N200 million in some parts of Nnewi. So don't think it is some place where nobody wants to buy from.

The simple question to ask those who make this baseless claim is, if Igbos don't sell property to them, don't Edos, Efiks, Ijaws, Ur hobos, etc in the South-South sell to them too? How many lands and shops do Northerners and Westerners own in Calabar or Benin or Uyo or Warri, etc?

How much property and stationary businesses do Northerners own in the Southwest outside Lagos (former capital)?

How much property and businesses do Yorubas own in the North outside Abuja?

So what is the reason for that?

I have urged some Hausas and Yorubas in Nnewi to buy property but some of them smiled knowingly and kept quiet, while some told me plainly that they can't take such a risk with the way things are in Nigeria.

The problem is simply fear of the unknown. Most Nigerians - minus the Igbos - have this fear that there will still be trouble in future. So they go into any state outside their region with a bag to do their business and leave when they are done. Many don't even go with their wife and children for fear of the unknown. They believe that it is only the former FCT (Lagos) or present FCT (Abuja) that is less risky to invest in.

Most people don't understand what drives Igbos in their business and investment decisions. Igbos don't buy property in other parts of Nigeria because of any special treatment given to them by their hosts. They buy property in spite of all that goes with property and the risk involved. They lose their money to fraudsters and omonile regularly in the Southwest. They lose their property to government demolition of property. Yet they invest in property because they see property as a profitable investment, and they hate to continue to be tenants forever. An Igbo man wants to be his own master (landlord) as quickly as possible.

Igbos have lost their property and businesses to burning, destruction and looting repeatedly in riots in the North. They have even been killed repeatedly. Yet they return to rebuild.

A few years after the abandoned property saga in Port Harcourt, Igbos returned to Port Harcourt and began buying property again like crazy. Even when they are warned of the possibility of a repeat of 1970, they still go ahead to invest in property.

Obasanjo has had some land in Enugu since the 1970s when he was head of state. He has not developed the land till today. Buhari said in his asset declaration that he has some land in Port Harcourt (probably given to him free of charge). He doesn't even know where the land is, not to talk of developing it. Yet these are heads of state who fought for the unity of this nation and are always talking about one Nigeria and need to believe in Nigeria. Yet they don't even have faith in investing outside their regions or FCT.

Igbos believe that crisis and loss will not make one not to make an investment decision. Their thinking is: "What if I don't invest and nothing happens eventually to the businesses or property around? Will I bring back the hand of the clock? But even if I invest and it is lost, life goes on. Life is a risk."

It sounds like a crazy way to think but that is how they are. No other Nigerian ethnic group thinks like this. That is why some people who don't travel assume that the reason Igbos live in large numbers in other ethnic groups and even return to places where they are killed is because Igboland is not developed. Even if you have never travelled to Igboland, please Google the CBN report of the six states that control 90% cash transactions in Nigeria.

The simple reality is that Igbos are wierd risk takers when it comes to business and investment. Other ethnic groups don't have such a trait. People are different.

The reason we do these intermittent interventions is to ensure that things are put in their right perspective, for those who care for the truth; for it was such falsehood that was spread in 1966 and used as a justification for the genocide against the Igbos that year.

Shops are available in Igboland, if you have the money and have the thick skin to compete. Land is available for purchase in all parts of Igboland, if you have the money. Igbos are business-oriented. They sell or rent their property to the highest bidder. And once the transaction is done, it is done. No stories.

Just keeping the record straight.

Truth is yoruba won't drop 1kobo of his money on Igbo land
It's a cursed region with 3m ghost haunting it
It's people re not well skilled
It's cheap
There's a reason why igbos don't invest home so why should Yoruba invest in it

Meanwhile Yoruba investors are a lot in Nigeria delta
With oando building a refinery in akwa ibom soon
Ebony life in calabar
Glo investing over $1bn in connecting central Africa via rivers
Oyedepi with maritime university in calabar too

Sanchez01:
Interesting. It should hag even been you then, instead of the family agent I met. For now, I am not thinking of walking that lane since the country is warming up.

I'm sure things would have been a whole lot different if you were in the picture. However, the event had left me with the rumours I had long heard.

So sorry for your experience, I always encourage good treatment for all buyers. The nation will be better for it.

Ojiofor:
Igbos are not tolerant as you said but how many properties does yorubas have in friendly non Igbo teritories in Nigeria outside Yorubaland?

Lot of street in Abuja are labeled with Yoruba name, that should tell you properties they got there, if you live in Abuja you will understand better