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Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by PedroJP(m): 11:40pm On Jun 22, 2017
Made a lot of sense especially yorubas and hausas desire to kill, dispossess and displace Igbos which they habe started by singing to us to remember the civil war. God strong pass them.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 11:47pm On Jun 22, 2017
Now you know why I unsubscribed from Saharatv.

Mr Rudolph aka. Dr. Damages conveniently ommited several parts of history.

I stopped reading line for line after he subliminally injected the false notion that the northern coup "just happened". The rise up against the Igbo was not unprovoked, but Mr. Rudolph does not feel this is important.

He ignores the bitter truth that the many years Nigeria has suffered under the rule of the military was a result of the first coup in Nigeria.

Nonetheless, we understand the rhetoric behind this article. His omission of the events that led to the second coup in Nigeria, sends a strong signal to anyone who started reading his article 'objectively'.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by deomelo: 11:47pm On Jun 22, 2017
sunnyb0b0:
Just like Jews are difficult to get along with all over the world, not so?
The only difference here is the fact that ibo are not jews, no matter how many scarfs they tie on their head to look like jews.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by sunnyb0b0(op):
TheCabal:
Now you know why I unsubscribed from Saharatv.

Mr Rudolph aka. Dr. Damages conveniently ommited several parts of history.

I stopped reading line for line after he subliminally injected the false notion that the northern coup "just happened". The rise up against the Igbo was not unprovoked, but Mr. Rudolph does not feel this is important.

He ignores the bitter truth that the many years Nigeria has suffered under the rule of the military was a result of the first coup in Nigeria.

Nonetheless, we understand the rhetoric behind this article. His omission of the events that led to the second coup in Nigeria, sends a strong signal to anyone who started reading his article 'objectively'.
And you cleverly omitted the Jos massacre of Igbos In 1945, the Kano killings of 1953....oh, they were fall outs of the January 1966 coup.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Allsouls: 12:38am On Jun 23, 2017
On Biafra no going back
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by fellory: 1:11am On Jun 23, 2017
On Biafra no going back

I think everybody should go their separate ways already.I believe the time is now.Everyone should go back to their regions.After settling the terms if you feel you need to visit any of the other regions you will go thru the visa process.No tribe or group should be held back.The agitation is beginning to sound annoying to me.Please give them biafra, arewa, oduduwa etc.Not even restructusing can save us now before we enact another Rwanda episode.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by pazienza(m): 1:11am On Jun 23, 2017
KratosCorp:
Amazing stuff!

That was a Master Of The Craft.

The masterpiece is way smoother and tastier than honey.

Grounded in facts, and delivered with precision unapologetically.

Isn't it awesome that Igbo intellectuals as this were speaking about this issue way before now?

So darn gratifying.
Truly awesome. Some men can see beyond the present into the immediate and even distant future. Blessed is a nation that have such men in abundance and entrust leadership positions to them.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by pazienza(m): 1:27am On Jun 23, 2017
PedroJP:
Made a lot of sense especially yorubas and hausas desire to kill, dispossess and displace Igbos which they habe started by singing to us to remember the civil war. God strong pass them.
"Among the large majority hailing from that tribe (Yorubas) who are most vocal in inciting the complete extermination of the Igbos, I often heard remarks that all Nigeria's ills will be cured once the Igbos has been extaminated from the human map , "
Dr Conor Cruise O'Bien (21 December, 1967, New York Review).

Things hardly change. The more they Change, the more they remain the same.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nonaira1: 2:07am On Jun 23, 2017
The Northern People's Congress, NPC, followed Alhaji Gashash's promise by issuing a booklet called SALAMA: Facts must be faced. This booklet portrayed the Igbo in a very bad light and gave the masses in the North the sense that the Igbo were the source of all their problems. At the same time, the government of Western Nigeria also issued their own booklet called UPCAISM in which the Igbo, called "strangers," were depicted as land grabbers who must be removed from Western lands and government positions. The booklets also displayed pictures of shops and stores owned by the Igbo and indulged in undue character assassination.
I never knew this and I am glad I learned this today. This is why they removed history from the curriculum in order to hide their ways. Thank you IPOB for pushing more and more people to speak of the past. Thank you Nnamdi Kanu for encouraging more Igbo youths to learn their history. Thank you the internet for giving us opportunity to witness to learn each truth.

Thank you!! Thank you!!

It'll be a cold day in hell before I join the ediotic igbos whom still believe in this scam called Nigeria.
Abeg make sure to share this to all your family and friends that are Igbo.
Let's wake our brothers and sisters up. We've all been sleeping too damn long
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Dedetwo(m): 2:12am On Jun 23, 2017
Nonaira1:
I never knew this and I am glad I learned this today. This is why they removed history from the curriculum in order to hide their ways. Thank you IPOB for pushing more and more people to speak of the past. Thank you Nnamdi Kanu for encouraging more Igbo youths to learn their history. Thank you the internet for giving us opportunity to witness to learn each truth.

Thank you!! Thank you!!

It'll be a cold day in hell before I join the ediotic igbos whom still believe in this scam called Nigeria.
Abeg make sure to share this to all your family and friends that are Igbo.
Let's wake our brothers and sisters up. We've all been sleeping too damn long
I have warned the warmongers to be very careful when threatening IPOB with war. Today's Nigeria has no resemblance with 1967 Nigeria.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 3:53am On Jun 23, 2017
sunnyb0b0:
And you cleverly omitted the Jos massacre of Igbos In 1945, the Kano killings of 1953....oh, they were fall outs of the January 1966 coup.
I am well studied in Nigerian history. And know of the 1945 and 53' riots. Unlike others, I search for the causes and not the effects. We can only find solutions by identifying causes. The east consistently avoid speaking about the "causes" , you spend all your time and energy advertising the "effects" or outcomes of your actions.

Clues and anticipations will be sought in antecedent events and, at present, the Kano riots of May 1953 are generally regarded as having been the first major outburst of violence between Northern Nigerians and those who later assumed the name of Biafrans. Without wishing to detract from the enormity of the Kano events, I feel it is necessary to place on record the following neglected episode in the history of conflict between these peoples. An Early Nigerian Civil Disturbance: the 1945 Hausa-Ibo riot in Jos https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022278X00024976

Like I said, I am interested in causes.

The author - higlighted ; a dwindling economy after WW1, verbal diarrhea grin, incitement as issues that propelled the Jos conflict.

If you cant find the full journal online. Let me know. I have a copy on my remote drive.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by azimibraun: 4:13am On Jun 23, 2017
feelgoodInc:
fake news Sahara reporters again, tribalistic bigots, you have no news, you can't search for buhari but you have time to search for igbos,
I can bet my whole life you didn't read this article. You just commented to make it appear you did. It's a very balanced write up.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 5:33am On Jun 23, 2017
Truly out fathers committed atrocities.... and we the children are gradually but unknowingly going towards same route...

We need to get back to the drawing board asap...
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by onagoodday: 5:55am On Jun 23, 2017
sunnyb0b0:
Reading before commenting does a lot of good Bro.
I swear, the guy did not even read it at all
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by sunnyb0b0(op): 5:57am On Jun 23, 2017
TheCabal:
I am well studied in Nigerian history. And know of the 1945 and 53' riots. Unlike others, I search for the causes and not the effects. We can only find solutions by identifying causes. The east consistently avoid speaking about the "causes" , you spend all your time and energy advertising the "effects" or outcomes of your actions.

Clues and anticipations will be sought in antecedent events and, at present, the Kano riots of May 1953 are generally regarded as having been the first major outburst of violence between Northern Nigerians and those who later assumed the name of Biafrans. Without wishing to detract from the enormity of the Kano events, I feel it is necessary to place on record the following neglected episode in the history of conflict between these peoples. An Early Nigerian Civil Disturbance: the 1945 Hausa-Ibo riot in Jos https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022278X00024976

Like I said, I am interested in causes.

The author - higlighted ; a dwindling economy after WW1, verbal diarrhea grin, incitement as issues that propelled the Jos conflict.

If you cant find the full journal online. Let me know. I have a copy on my remote drive.
There's no journal I can't access Bro. I'm a researcher at one of the world's top unis.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by ProWalker: 6:21am On Jun 23, 2017
chibuzorAbia:
The idiot Igbo OP or author of this article talks about the battle for Lagos? Exactly what is the battle for lagos?
I was about asking that? What battle? That some ibos can afford to buy and bought land to build private residences?
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by ProWalker: 6:23am On Jun 23, 2017
sunnyb0b0:
There's no journal I can't access Bro. I'm a researcher at one of the world's top unis.
Sunny
Na lie go kill you, you are no longer a junior sales pharma-Rep?
Why do you guys lie like a second skin like this ?
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by kenny987(f): 6:40am On Jun 23, 2017
Guestlander:
"Let it be known that the original sin of the Igbo has not changed and will never change - it is the sin of being Igbo. It is from it that all other sins emerge and get magnified. The Igbo have nothing to prove and must not begin a defense of that right or a discussion of their Igboness on the terms of others. It is a matter of expediency for the Igbo to know this and for the Igbo to understand its implication in their final battle for survival"

The whole article can be summed up to the quote above by Rudulph Okonkwo, it is the same persecution complex we see here on a daily basis.
What is wrong with Igbo and self introspection? Why can't they see themselves through the eyes of other people?
The truth is that Igbo are difficult to get along with, we have seen it everywhere you have a large concentration of Igbo, be it in Nigeria, South Africa or China.
Is it possible all these people hate igbo just because they are igbo? Not possible.
How on earth is the Igbo man supposed to abandon his traditional view and sense of self to see himself through the eyes of others? How does that even make sense to you? How about you stop and think and understand the Igbo man from his own perspective?

The Igbo man will not change! All of his pride, economic aggression, loudness, diligence, beauty, self-confidence, zeal and desire to excel make him the unique person he is and the fact that others are uncomfortable with his nature does not make him any less excellent cos we all come with our imperfections!

Self-introspection is one of the best gifts anyone give oneself. That is why psychology expects u to 'know thyself'. If u don't understand urself u will never know how to harness ur qualities and succeed. No one will understand u better than urself and u are the one that will tell ur story not others telling it for u because they will most likely pass it through their already poisoned view.

It is difficult to get along with Igbos? It is also difficult to get along with lions because of their nature! It doesn't make them bad animals or any less excellent! The best is to understand each other and set necessary lawful boundaries to allow everyone grow n excel at their own pace! The Igbo man will not change and no, it is not your duty to set out what u expect him to act n behave. The sane way he accepts u when he comes on a sojourn is the same way u should accept him when you meet him provided no crime is committed.

Where the above is impossible then the ultimate demand is on ground for a separate nation so he can be himself and project his identity without any unnecessary intervention from those who don't understand the simple need to live and let live.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by sunnyb0b0(op): 6:47am On Jun 23, 2017
ProWalker:
Sunny
Na lie go kill you, you are no longer a junior sales pharma-Rep?
Why do you guys lie like a second skin like this ?
Eggheader, tell me any article you want me to access for you and if I don't then in a liar. That I co-own a thriving pharmaceutical business doesn't mean I can't be a researcher.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by sunnyb0b0(op): 6:50am On Jun 23, 2017
kenny987:
How on earth is the Igbo man supposed to abandon his traditional view and sense of self to see himself through the eyes of others? How does that even make sense to you? How about you stop and think and understand the Igbo man from his own perspective?

The Igbo man will not change! All of his pride, economic aggression, loudness, diligence, beauty, self-confidence, zeal and desire to excel make him the unique person he is and the fact that others are uncomfortable with his nature does not make him any less excellent cos we all come with our imperfections!

Self-introspection is one of the best gifts anyone give oneself. That is why psychology expects u to 'know thyself'. If u don't understand urself u will never know how to harness ur qualities and succeed. No one will understand u better than urself and u are the one that will tell ur story not others telling it for u because they will most likely pass it through their already poisoned view.

It is difficult to get along with Igbos? It is also difficult to get along with lions because of their nature! It doesn't make them bad animals or any less excellent! The best is to understand each other and set necessary lawful boundaries to allow everyone grow n excel at their own pace! The Igbo man will not change and no, it is not your duty to set out what u expect him to act n behave. The sane way he accepts u when he comes on a sojourn is the same way u should accept him when you meet him provided no crime is committed.

Where the above is impossible then the ultimate demand is on ground for a separate nation so he can be himself and project his identity without any unnecessary intervention from those who don't understand the simple need to live and let live.
Excellent, excellenté.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by sunnyb0b0(op): 6:52am On Jun 23, 2017
chibuzorAbia:
The idiot Igbo OP or author of this article talks about the battle for Lagos? Exactly what is the battle for lagos?
Only if you and prowalker could assimilate what you read. The article was written at a time we had the "Lagos is man's land" brouhaha hence "the battle for Lagos".
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nomswilli(m): 7:12am On Jun 23, 2017
freshest4live:
Some of these articles are just written to fuel hate, tribalism and persecution complex. All tribes have been stereotyped in Nigeria, and the Igbo's are not innocent of making stereotypes or hating others.
Yoruba's are seen generally as betrayers and fearful people, lgbo's are seen as greedy people who can do anything for money, Hausa's are generally hated as violent illiterate Muslims, Edo people are generally hated and stereotyped even by Igbo's in places like Italy because of the prostitution there and runs carried majorly by them.
What more? ljaw men are generally considered to be ashewos who can't stay with one woman, urhobo believed to be ogogoro drinking lazy touts, etc etc.
The danger of a single story is not that it isn't true in most cases of course, but that it rubs an entire group of their dignity.
Igbo case is not special, the reason why you think it's special is because of the civil war and stereotype of the Igbo is now linked with politics.
You did not choose to be lgbo, Yoruba or Hausa, let us stop magnifying our differences and giving power to a non existent enemy with the belief that everyone hates us and is out to get us, everyone cannot hate you.
Tribalism is such a big disease in Africa, and it is a shame that our youths also promote it.
u have a point but if u read and re-read this article u will fine clear solutions to the problems we are faced with today.this is his own perspective which I think is cool..very educative ..….admin abeg push this article go front
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by PedroJP(m): 7:23am On Jun 23, 2017
pazienza:
"Among the large majority hailing from that tribe (Yorubas) who are most vocal in inciting the complete extermination of the Igbos, I often heard remarks that all Nigeria's ills will be cured once the Igbos has been extaminated from the human map , "
Dr Conor Cruise O'Bien (21 December, 1967, New York Review).

Things hardly change. The more they Change, the more they remain the same.
Yea. They are intently wicked towards Igbos. They are claiming most hospitable to Igbos but wishing our extamination codedly.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 7:49am On Jun 23, 2017
TheCabal:
Now you know why I unsubscribed from Saharatv.

Mr Rudolph aka. Dr. Damages conveniently ommited several parts of history.

I stopped reading line for line after he subliminally injected the false notion that the northern coup "just happened". The rise up against the Igbo was not unprovoked, but Mr. Rudolph does not feel this is important.

He ignores the bitter truth that the many years Nigeria has suffered under the rule of the military was a result of the first coup in Nigeria.

Nonetheless, we understand the rhetoric behind this article. His omission of the events that led to the second coup in Nigeria, sends a strong signal to anyone who started reading his article 'objectively'.
So what happened in 1945 & 1953 was the North "welcoming their guest"?

It is sad how when Nigeria history is been discuse people conveniently forgets everything that happened before the coup and used the coup as justification.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by honeychild(f): 7:57am On Jun 23, 2017
dienlmods:
Yes, only Yoruba and hausa /Fulani bigots have good people... What a diabolical people logic of the zoo animals
Read!
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by ShootToKill: 8:05am On Jun 23, 2017
deomelo:
The only difference here is the fact that ibo are not jews, no matter how many scarfs they tie on their head to look like jews.
And how many bedsheets do you need to tie on your muslim skulls to become an arab?

grin grin
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by Nobody: 8:10am On Jun 23, 2017
ShootToKill:
And how many bedsheets do you need to tie on your muslim skulls to become an arab?

grin grin
Or how many skulls he has to mine to qualify as skull-miner? grin
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by honeychild(f): 8:21am On Jun 23, 2017
TheCabal:
I am well studied in Nigerian history. And know of the 1945 and 53' riots. Unlike others, I search for the causes and not the effects. We can only find solutions by identifying causes. The east consistently avoid speaking about the "causes" , you spend all your time and energy advertising the "effects" or outcomes of your actions.

Clues and anticipations will be sought in antecedent events and, at present, the Kano riots of May 1953 are generally regarded as having been the first major outburst of violence between Northern Nigerians and those who later assumed the name of Biafrans. Without wishing to detract from the enormity of the Kano events, I feel it is necessary to place on record the following neglected episode in the history of conflict between these peoples. An Early Nigerian Civil Disturbance: the 1945 Hausa-Ibo riot in Jos https://doi.org/10.1017/S0022278X00024976

Like I said, I am interested in causes.

The author - higlighted ; a dwindling economy after WW1, verbal diarrhea grin, incitement as issues that propelled the Jos conflict.

If you cant find the full journal online. Let me know. I have a copy on my remote drive.
Please can you create a thread with this? Couldn't access the article.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by stonemasonn: 8:31am On Jun 23, 2017
Dedetwo:
I have warned the warmongers to be very careful when threatening IPOB with war. Today's Nigeria has no resemblance with 1967 Nigeria.
in 1967 you had colonel Ojukwu, today you have Mr nobody Nnamdi KANU, that is the difference..
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by iKnowevents(m): 8:36am On Jun 23, 2017
Igbo amaka, I continue to parrot what this article encapsulates to people. Stand tall as an Igbo man, let haters hate, it is in their nature to hate, it is in our nature to soar high.

They can't pinpoint any reason more than envy for their hatred. Do what is right, allow the hatred to burn the soul of the hater.

Igbo ga-adịrịrị, whether the haters die or not.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by stonemasonn: 8:37am On Jun 23, 2017
It is high time other tribes stop being politically correct and say things as they'd experienced. This continuous Igbo narratives makes every other tribe bad.

The writer concluded that everybody hates igbos.

yet the Igbo benefited more living among everybody than back home.

It is time to open...if other tribes are hateful of Igbo, the Igbos are also as hate filled as every other Nigerian tribe if not more.
Re: The Futile Search For A Good Igbo - Sahara Reporters by TRUTHTOPOWER: 8:42am On Jun 23, 2017
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kano_riot_of_1953 The Kano riot of 1953 refers to the riot , which broke out in the ancient city of Kano , [1] located in Northern Nigeria , in May 1953. The nature of the riot were clashes between Northerners who were opposed to Nigeria's Independence and Southerners made up of mainly the Yorubas and the Igbos who supported immediate independence for Nigeria. The riot that lasted for four days claimed many lives of the Southerners and Northerners and many others were wounded.
Causes
The remote cause of the riot was the strained relationship between the Northern and Southern political leaders over the issue of self-government in 1956. This strained relationship started with a 1953 motion for self-government for Nigeria in 1956 tabled in the House of Representatives by a member of the
Action Group (AG), Chief Anthony Enahoro . The Northerners did not accept the motion. The leader of the Northern People's Congress (NPC) and the Sardauna of Sokoto, Alhaji Ahmadu Bello, in a counter-motion, replaced "in the year 1956" with the phrase "as soon as practicable". Another Northern member of the House moved a motion for adjournment, a motion which Southern members of AG and the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons (NCNC) viewed as a delay tactics. All the AG and NCNC members in the house walked out as a result of the adjournment motion.
When the Northern delegates left the House, they were confronted by hostile crowds in Lagos who insulted, jeered and called them all sorts of names. Members of the Northern delegation were embittered and in their "Eight Point Program" in the Northern Regional Legislative House, they sought for secession. The last straw that broke the camel's back was the tour by a delegation of the AG and NCNC led by Chief Samuel Akintola . That tour which was aimed at campaigning for self-government acted as the immediate cause of the Kano riot. It sparked off a chain of disorder that culminated in the riot. The riot took place at Sabon Gari an area predominantly occupied by southern Nigerians.
Riot
There was already growing tension in the North when the Action Group northern tour came to Kano during the weekend of May 15-17, the tension was a result of the hostility towards the Northern delegation in Lagos. An orderly demonstration by the Northern Peoples Congress supporters against a proposed Action Group meeting took place on Friday, May 15. This was followed by small skirmishes on Saturday. Disturbances that led to the riot started out at the Colonial Hotel, on May 16, 1953 which was supposed to be the venue of a meeting by the Action Group led by Akintola. Prior the meeting, the Kano Native Authority withdrew its permission to grant the meeting. A mob gathered outside of the hotel and started stoning people close to the hotel, during the fracas, two people believed to be southerners died, the mob later attempted to gain entry into Sabon Gari but were subdued by the Native Authority police. The situation became more serious and became an inter-ethnic crisis on Sunday, May 17 when mobs of hooligans from Northern section of Kano, in particular Fagge attempted to break into the Southern and Igbo dominated Sabon Gari area with some success, though their original chants were against the Yorubas , the casualties in the Sabon Gari area were mostly Igbos. [2] Shops in the Sabon Gari market were looted and violent attacks took place. But the Native Authority police and the Army were called upon and prevented further entry of hooligans into the Kano area. The skirmishes further spilled into the indigenous Kano areas such as Fagge where small unorganized groups of people of different ethnic groups clashed. [3]
An exchange of prisoners took place to reduce the tension, Southerners who were arrested were released and Northerners also released; Northerners in the Sabon Gari area were asked to leave and Southerners in the Fagge area were asked to move to Sabon Gari for the meantime. About 46 Nigerians mostly Northerners and Igbos died during the clash and more than 200 people were treated for injuries. Though it was immediately called an inter-ethnic riot by the colonial government in Nigeria, the political leaders termed it a political riot between people who want self government in 1956 and those who want imperialism to continue.
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