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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jun 23, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Please in the name of almighty God don't bring ethnic squabbling here. You have enough threads where this matter can be discussed. I am not against a civil discussion of Naijas issues but I know that many of you guys cannot do it reasonably so please stop it.
You are sick for what you just typed.



How can you turn history on it's head and you are busy saying trash.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 12:17pm On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
You are sick for what you just typed.



How can you turn history on it's head and you are busy saying trash.

Madam, I am not turning history; that is just the truth. Go and consult the history books. The british were very wrong in favouring the north over the south of Nigeria which can be seen in their love for Saudarna and his men, how they ignored the progrom and how they sided fully with the Federal Government during the civil war but as regards the state of civilization when they came, the north were tops.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ephi321(f): 12:17pm On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
blood of Zechariah Eph321 what say you? Where are my friends Ngokafor Ngozi123 pazienza coloneldrake nonaira1 nonaira agumbaa

This is a case of history revisionist

"Better administrators, most exposed, most enlightened", so how did they end up being the people with the highest levels of illiteracy and poverty in the country

I think I am done with this thread. Let people believe whatever they want to believe. Their headache. At the end of the day, they will still buy garri and rice in the market for triple the price of what it was 2 years ago.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ngozi123(f): 12:18pm On Jun 23, 2017
mtis:

Not to be pain in the butt but can you repute what she saying coz she seems to be well versed with what she presented..

I just read through it. The British didn't give power to the North because they were more 'enlightened'- that's very racist speech btw- rather, they gave power to them because they were more familiar with their method of rule. They preferred authoritarian centralised systems of power as that was what they were used to and they'd find it much easier to rule the masses that way. This was evident in most of their colonies. Believe it or not but the British loved Islamic kingdoms as they were pretty much ready made dictatorships whose people were already used to authoritarian rule and would, in their minds, be 'easier' to control. They hated anything that would challenge their monarchy.

What genieluv said is honestly disgusting considering the achievements made by the Oyo and Nri empires and the communities surrounding them.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Ngozi123(f): 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2017
ephi321:


"Better administrators, most exposed, most enlightened", so how did they end up being the people with the highest levels of illiteracy and poverty in the country

I think I am done with this thread. Let people believe whatever they want to believe. Their headache. At the end of the day, they will still buy garri and rice in the market for triple the price of what it was 2 years ago.

They were most definitely not the most 'enlightened'. The achievements made by the Oyo and Nri empires, amongst others, dispels that myth. The word "enlightened" has very racist undertones btw so I wouldn't take any black person who uses it in this context seriously.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


I have heard of the Afar people. Are they cushitic?

**** They look quite different from other horn-africans, except for the lady. Why does the lady look very different facially from the men?
Yes, they are Cushite.

I think they look like us, because we are Cushite sisters.

The woman facial features is the same like the men, except for the fact that she is lighter in skinn. Some Afar women are light because of admixture with Habeshas or with Arab immigrants. Most Afars are black.

Afars use butter in their hairs to protect it from drying because of the high temperature in Afar region. A place called Danakil depression in Afar is the hottest place on Earth.

Afar and Beja people are considered to be Ancient Egyptians among other peoples.

Here more(last one is Beja(Cushite))

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 12:22pm On Jun 23, 2017
ephi321:


Inflation is 17.6% that is reality, a figure, a fact. It can't be sugar coated and you can't spin "my view" on it. Same applies to other indices.

Nobody here is sugar coating anything. The argument was between other African countries and Naija as to which was more developed(mind u we were not arguing that Naija was developed, it was a relative argument) and we brought out figures to prove our case. So where did the sugarcoating come from?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ephi321(f): 12:22pm On Jun 23, 2017
Ngozi123:


They were most definitely not the most enlightened. The achievements made by the Oyo and Nri empires, amongst others, dispels that myth. The word "enlightened" has very racist undertones btw so I wouldn't take any black person who uses it in this context seriously.

Lol. I was being sarcastic about the "enlightened, exposed" part because that is something everyone in Nigeria knows.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:23pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Yeah we did. Nigeria was divided by the Biafrans (Igbos n other minority groups) who declared seccession. The war lasted for 3 years until Biafra was defeated and re-merged back to Nigeria.
My people were direct neighbours to the Igbos (Biafra), so we suffered casualties, molestation and rape from Biafran soldiers. But the Biafrans suffered more because most countries of the world supported Nigeria.

~~~~~The attrocities i was talking about earlier were pre-colonial wars between Nigerian Kingdoms & empires. So there was really nothing like minority or majority then. Every kingdom for itself. The kingdom i descended from also conquered and enslaved other people/kingdoms, and likewise themselves were also enslaved, attacked n later islamized. It was a pre-colonial thing.

Yes, in today's Nigerian settings, my people are classified as minorities. If you are not Igbo, Hausa or Yoruba in Nigeria, you are a minority.
Buh being a minority in Nigeria is not so bad anymore since we now have dozens of state governments and most minority groups rule their own states. Minority groups only suffered oppression during the old regional governments.

**** I agree with you about history, buh even though history is not included in our academic curriculum as a subject, some bit of it is taught in other subjects n many Nigerians do educate themselves on their histories. Either ways, there are advantages n disadvantages of teaching history.

If history should be taught, i think it would be selective. They should remove the bitter parts and teach only the beautiful parts cheesy

>>>>>Your last statement is not really correct. Not all Igbos n Southern minorities support Biafra, many of them are patriotic Nigerians.
Understood
And thanks for the correction wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ephi321(f): 12:24pm On Jun 23, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


Nobody here is sugar coating anything. The argument was between other African countries and Naija as to which was more developed(mind u we were not arguing that Naija was developed, it was a relative argument) and we brought out figures to prove our case. So where did the sugarcoating come from?

Mister, before you jump down people's comments, would be good for you to read their previous interactions. His reply to me was based on a discussion that started yesterday about the current state of things in Nigeria. That is what I responded to. My comment has no reference to other African countries.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Maduawuchukwu(m): 12:25pm On Jun 23, 2017
ephi321:


"Better administrators, most exposed, most enlightened", so how did they end up being the people with the highest levels of illiteracy and poverty in the country

I think I am done with this thread. Let people believe whatever they want to believe. Their headache. At the end of the day, they will still buy garri and rice in the market for triple the price of what it was 2 years ago.

The most educated today can be the least 2mao. That is how life rolls. Many African nations were more developed than China in the 70's but the case is different today.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:26pm On Jun 23, 2017
ednited:



Keremt mimarew ema erasu Architecture new. Unity kremt erasu yastemralu.

Ahun 2tegna amet ehonalehu

Hill side school nebr mimarew. Tawkewaleh?
bseme awekewalew, gn yete akababe nw?

seferesh yet nw?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ephi321(f): 12:27pm On Jun 23, 2017
Maduawuchukwu:


The most educated today can be the least 2mao. That is how life rolls. Many African nations were more developed than China in the 70's but the case is different today.

2mao? haha. Yeah, very right. Please go and make your case elsewhere. I've got no time.
The North has always been under-developed, and has retrogressed even worse in recent years because other parts have embraced change and progress. You can't twist history on its head.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pazienza(m): 12:31pm On Jun 23, 2017
QueenOfNepal:
blood of Zechariah Eph321 what say you? Where are my friends Ngokafor Ngozi123 pazienza coloneldrake nonaira1 nonaira agumbaa

This is a case of history revisionist
You have time for that one.

Every one knows that the North were the most subservient to the British imperialism, they never even wanted independence, and so the British found them worthy caretakers of their colonial estate, when they decided to leave the country.

It's not different from how the slave camps in Americas were ran.
The slave masters often look for the most docile, most subservient and less rebellious blacks amongst the black slaves and appointed them caretakers of the camp.

The rebellious, freedom seeking ones that often rebel and plan to usurp the slave owners control of the plantations are often relegated and forced to come under the rulership of the docile subservient ones, who in their eagerness to earn trust of the slave camp owners, treat the rebellious fellow blacks with Brutality.

Nothing changed. Substitute Nigeria for slave camp and you get the picture.

I ignored that her post because she didn't mention Ndiigbo in particular in that her post, that's exactly why I let it be. She had learned not to put Ndiigbo in her mess.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by WORLDPEACE(m): 12:41pm On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:











What I care about is that they have earned respect in SA because of how they behave , their personal feelings about others are none of my damn business.
Yeah, how people feel about me is their own reality. You can't suck me into your reality. As long as you don't exhibit any obnoxious, disrespectful behaviour towards me, we're cool.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:58pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Thanks for the compliments.

*** I used to have a picture of me in my traditional attires, buh i misplaced it sad
However, here is my cousin sister in our traditional attire. You can see the subtle resemblance between us. Lol.

The 2nd lady is a friend of mine.
.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:04pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Thanks for the compliments.

*** I used to have a picture of me in my traditional attires, buh i misplaced it sad
However, here is my cousin sister in our traditional attire. You can see the subtle resemblance between us. Lol.

The 2nd lady is a friend of mine.
They look gorgeous cheesy
Your friend eyes or something resemble yours. There is something regal about northern Nigerians. Many of the photos I've seen about them resemble this. There are many attire going on on their appearance. Beautiful!

Their top thing they wear is also wear by some Gojjam, Shewa and Wello Amharas. And also some northern Oromos.

The last one is Haile Selassie and some elites during the early reign of Atse(emperor) Haile Selassie. It doesn't relate with the subject, just to show you.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:11pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Northern Nigeria is a very big place. It should be about twice the size of Kenya. Boko haram has been largely contained to just one northern state and there are 19 northern states.
****So, it's very safe, depending on what part of the north you are living in. The north-central n north-west r safe. The north-east is the troubled zone.
I thought otherwise. Thanks for telling me the reality.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:13pm On Jun 23, 2017
Tzardom:


He banna! I've already given you a list of SIGNIFICANT infrastructure built under Zuma's misrule of two recessions. But I notice you can't do the same for Mandela & Mbeki - two presidents who governed SA during an economic boom.

Yes, he has built himself Nkandla just as Mandela built himself Qunu and Mbeki a mansion in Houghton. So what?
Did Mandela and Mbeki homesteads cost $240 million??

Zuma has built nothing....well nothing that Mandela and Mbeki did not build!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:17pm On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:

















Pretoria is just one city on SA , there were more places that didn't have those things before but now do.



I agree with most of what you said especially about the economy, but impressed or not about the things that happened under zuma will not change that his government made them happen, same way that his crap cannot be changed.

The question you have to ask......was SA better of under Zuma or under Mandela and Mbeki?

Their is nothing to be impressed about what Zuma has done.....nothing!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:19pm On Jun 23, 2017
Muafrika2:

Alright. Hope its not any endangered species grin
You can't hunt endangered species without a special permit, which cost hundreds of thousands of Rand......so no im not hunting any endangered species.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 2:41pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Is she Kenyan? If yes, then it's cool. I hope things like this are promoted by Kenyans themselves.
100% Kenyan. Me still wondering why we should promote clothes. I think as a continent we are past that kind of bull
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by PissedYagami(m): 2:42pm On Jun 23, 2017
ednited:
I want to see Kenyan traditional clothes. It can be from Massai ppl

I don't care!

I WANT TO SEE. I HAVE TO
good luck with that

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 2:47pm On Jun 23, 2017
jln115:


The question you have to ask......was SA better of under Zuma or under Mandela and Mbeki?

Their is nothing to be impressed about what Zuma has done.....nothing!!









The answer to you first question is obvious. The second line is your opinion.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 2:52pm On Jun 23, 2017
WORLDPEACE:

Yeah, how people feel about me is their own reality. You can't suck me into your reality. As long as you don't exhibit any obnoxious, disrespectful behaviour towards me, we're cool.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:11pm On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:










The answer to you first question is obvious. The second line is your opinion.
What impressed you about Zuma?? How did he benefit SA in a a way Mbeki and Mandela didn't!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jun 23, 2017
jln115:

You can't hunt endangered species without a special permit, which cost hundreds of thousands of Rand......so no im not hunting any endangered species.
in my opinion,they shouldn't give a permit that allows people to hunt endangered species
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 3:14pm On Jun 23, 2017
jln115:

What impressed you about Zuma?? How did he benefit SA in a a way Mbeki and Mandela didn't!









He is a better dancer and singer than them , no President has ever entertained SA like him grin. His artistic presidency impressed me grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:29pm On Jun 23, 2017
Lionessza:










He is a better dancer and singer than them , no President has ever entertained SA like him grin. His artistic presidency impressed me grin
LOL grin grin grin



Zuma dabbing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Lionessza(f): 3:35pm On Jun 23, 2017
Jayceon:
LOL grin grin grin



Zuma dabbing









The dude is a celebrity I tell you grin trend setter lol.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 4:25pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Northern Nigeria is a very big place. It should be about twice the size of Kenya. Boko haram has been largely contained to just one northern state and there are 19 northern states.
****So, it's very safe, depending on what part of the north you are living in. The north-central n north-west r safe. The north-east is the troubled zone.

The WHOLE of Nigeria is a barely over one and a half times the size of Kenya, 1.58 times to be precise.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:33pm On Jun 23, 2017
genieluv:


Northern Nigeria is a very big place. It should be about twice the size of Kenya. Boko haram has been largely contained to just one northern state and there are 19 northern states.
****So, it's very safe, depending on what part of the north you are living in. The north-central n north-west r safe. The north-east is the troubled zone.

You skipped your geography lessons or just plain ignorant? Nigeria is only slightly bigger than Kenya.

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