nemesis2u:


lol
kenyan guys here dont play smart with google

just google this
"second largest employer in Nigeria after Nigerian government"

if u have difficulty add i**** at the very beginning

dont blame me, i want the interesting and entertaining fight to reach new heights

it is turning into a good info thread

anyways i am outta here pronto

leaving nairaland....

I've seen Obasanjo saying its Indians

https://armada.ng/indians-second-largest-employers-labour-nigeria-government-obasanjo/

TayserMahiri:


This site is Nigerian so its only justice if I mention Nigeria in every sentence

yes......one of the major reasons why u spend more time here than most nairalanders,even more than me.

Lionessza:


Lol, good for them and hopefully we will stop hearing all the " we are a black nation and failure is to be expected" bullshyt.

Oyinbo this Oyinbo that, Indian this Indian that. Instead of the govt coming up with good strategies. If you ask some of the very shallow ones they think Kenya has 14th fastest internet globally because of Oyinbo and not Kenyan govt strategy. The same is true for everything else an African country is good at except them

TayserMahiri:



Wow, the media is really bad. Never seen such utilities in Islam Arabic countries but nice to know. How about nightlifes etc? Do your stations play western songs like the popular American ones or their movies?

realy ? western songs ? you realy think its like Talibans clichès , we have all last box office films in cinema , night clubs, prostitutes, world musicians come made Concert tours , the only thing for alcool you can t drink on the street or on terrace ! you can drink in bars , night clubs , hotels or at your home .

do you know that after south africa in african wine production , you will find algeria morocco tunisia 2nd 3rd 4th) ,

algeria produce 1,6 million d’hectolitres of beer / year and 700 000 hectolitres of wine , 85% of the production is consumed locally and import much more

genieluv:


Lol. I say Hausa-fulanis together because the Hausas also had their own kingdoms almost 1,000 years before they were conquered by the fulanis. At the peak of the hausa kingdoms in the 16th century, the hausas were already competing with Mali empire n Kanem-bornu over transaharan trade. They had been quite civilized before the fulanis came. So, you cannot absolve the hausas from the fulanis in core-northern Nigerian history.

Then differentiate them when appropriate. You were wrong when you started talking about Hausas-Fulanis conquering Northern Cameroon and parts of Nigeria, because it was the Fulanis who did, not the Hausas. To say, Hausa-Fulani conquered Northern Cameroon and parts of Nigeria will be historically inaccurate. Also, I am not removing Hausas from the Fulanis in Northern Nigeria's history, I am simply correcting the inaccurate info.

**** Another thing is that, once the fulanis conquered the hausas, the fulanis heavily married hausa women due to shortage of fulani women creating highly mixed/hausanized fulanis and the fulanis also took more hausa soldiers with them to further conquer eastward n Southward territories. So, it was more of a mixed thing.

No, during the Jihad, it wasn't more of a mixed thing as you put it. In Northern Cameroon, the Fulanis fought wars with the native, not the Hausa-Fulanis as you put it. The significant mixing in Nigeria among the Hausas happened AFTER the Hausas were conquered.

>>>>Hausas n fulanis throughout their histories of the kingdoms n sultanate were always warring. The sultanate especially was more interested in conquest n expansion than trade n wealth unlike the Mali empire, so no surprise if they weren't so wealthy to travel on caravans, while the older hausa kingdoms were always fighting each other, fighting Kanem-bornu, Kwararafa, Southern pagan tribes e.t.c (This is why most hausas still feel grateful to Danfodio for uniting them).

They were always warring, however here is a significant detail, the Hausa conquest happened in a matter of just 4 years from 1804-1808. The conquest of the Hausas was by the Fulanis. Most of the gains of conquest happened in the 2 decades following this. In fact one of the last, if not the last territorial gain of the Sokoto caliphate happened in 1824 after the capture of Ilorin. In the later decades, Sokoto caliphate was expansion was halted.

~~~~ Benins never learnt how to read n write and that set a huge blow to their claimed civilization. Human sacrifice, killing of twins n other abhorable practices were still the order of the day. N also, benins only travelled on foot. Lol

And what defines a civilization again? The Europeans called themselves civilized and yet committed genocides, practiced forced conversion, and slavery.

The Sokoto practiced brutal execution methods like stoning and amputation. In fact the Sokoto caliphate was the state that had the most slaves per state in Africa on record in modern history and the second in the world only behind the American South. Benin traveled on foot, ok, so would a camel or a horse survive in the forest belt of Nigeria?

nemesis2u:


lol
kenyan guys here dont play smart with google

just google this
"second largest employer in Nigeria after Nigerian government"

if u have difficulty add i**** at the very beginning

dont blame me, i want the interesting and entertaining fight to reach new heights

it is turning into a good info thread

anyways i am outta here pronto

leaving nairaland....

Is it just me or you are an Indian troll? Well thats something. I never knew Indians would stalk n troll africans.
Hey, why don't u go stalk Pakistanis? cos really i don't see anyone who would be so interested in india here except probably Kenyans who may be obsessed with Indians .
Hey TayserMahiri, Pissedyagami, mtis, stop starring at moi, i didn't say nothing (runs away)

Muafrika2:

The icing on the cake. No one wants to touch a man of God

shervydman:


yes......one of the major reasons why u spend more time here than most nairalanders,even more than me.

You dont know how I love dealing with ignorants, you know those guys with a very low IQ. They're very many here

ednited:


@genieluv

Trust me, I know how Nigerians use their traditional clothes. You guys use it everywhere. And am proud of you guys.

I also know that the people in court make white wig in the court room.

we don't do any of that in ET. We just make suits.

Back then at the time of Hailesassie tho, leave alone just making our traditional court, he only uses Amharic for a speech in UN

That's great. I myself have always wondered the rationale behind a white wig n black africans adopting it.

TayserMahiri:


I've seen Obasanjo saying its Indians

https://armada.ng/indians-second-largest-employers-labour-nigeria-government-obasanjo/

its false......blatant lie! I believe obasanjo said that to tease the Indians at that forum, I can list many non-governmental sectors that employs more labour than even public sectors. example is NOLLYWOOD.

obaaderemi:
Thanks,many do not know that the impact of the trans atlantic trade between Europe and west africa had far greater effects tham the trans sahara trade.The way history is regarded in our educational system these days is a great injustice.Many do not know their country's history enough.Imagine.

The Trans-Saharan trade was longer, but its impact was slower than the Trans-Atlantic. The Yorubas participated in both.

chkil0:


realy ? western songs ? you realy think its like Talibans clichès , we have all last box office films in cinema , night clubs, prostitutes, world musicians come made Concert tours , the only thing for alcool you can t drink on the street or on terrace ! you can drink in bars , night clubs , hotels or at your home .

do you know that after south africa in african wine production , you will find algeria morocco tunisia 2nd 3rd 4th) ,

algeria produce 1,6 million d’hectolitres of beer / year and 700 000 hectolitres of wine , 85% of the production is consumed locally

ha ha , dont get me wrong am sure you also thought Kenya was jungle. Thats really something I dont know but the media makes it look like Islam frowns upon anything in those parts of the world. So there isnt even Sharia in Algeria? Thats quite surprising. I didnt know about the wine thing, That means you guys are amongst the drunkest people in Africa

genieluv:


That's great. I myself have always wondered the rationale behind a white wig n black africans adopting it.

It's very funny btw. We don't do it cuz you know. . . ..

Ethiopians would freak out if they see it

TayserMahiri:


Oyinbo this Oyinbo that, Indian this Indian that. Instead of the govt coming up with good strategies. If you ask some of the very shallow ones they think Kenya has 14th fastest in internet globally because of Oyinbo and not Kenyan govt strategy. The same is true for everything else an African country is good at except them

wait....Oyinbo is a naija word for white people?

TayserMahiri:


You dont know how I love dealing with ignorants, you know those guys with a very low IQ. They're very many here

They're everywhere........even if u put some people in a pool of knowledge, they'll end up becoming worse.

ednited:


Are you fine??

So you've been flexing your muscnigerians ehn? Goodehnu've had a change of heart about us. im fine dear.

9jakool:

Your argument is reminiscing to the European Supremacist who used the same argument to call Africans "savages." The writing argument is perhaps one of the oldest case in the book.

I give the Hausas and Fulanis kudos for educating their citizens how to write Arabic and the modified Ajami, but to use this as a basis for supremacy arguments is far from wrong.

Nothing beats literacy my dear. Lol

Omoluabi16:
muscnigerians ehn? Goodehnu've.

Algebagnm

genieluv:


Sorry buh hey, i've been watching Kenyan TV stations on DStv n online sometime now, n i have never seen anything cultural on it.

****Ednited i think is not fully aware how much Nigerians display culture enough. I think we r the most traditional africans (especially in the clothing aspect).
This is what a Nigerian parliament looked like in the 60s n today. You hardly see our political leaders n lawmakers on Western clothes since independence. Always on traditional clothes. I have hardly seen that in other African countries. Is that the same case in ET?

And she doesn't get tired of discussing culture

HarryDuce:
And she doesn't get tired of discussing culture

Heyyyyy, what's the problem with that?

Jayceon:
wait....Oyinbo is a naija word for white people?

It is A guy here is saying the motor truck should be washed cos Oyinbo says so

TayserMahiri:


Oyinbo this Oyinbo that, Indian this Indian that. Instead of the govt coming up with good strategies. If you ask some of the very shallow ones they think Kenya has 14th fastest internet globally because of Oyinbo and not Kenyan govt strategy. The same is true for everything else an African country is good at except them

Lol, when you've never had a good working government that can provide all its citizens with basic amenities i guess you'd think it's onyibo magic when you see it in another country . It's pathetic really.

TayserMahiri:


It is A guy here is saying the motor truck should be washed cos Oyinbo says so

And they accuse others of mental slavery HAHA!!

ednited,hati13,come in please! Remember I told you Kikuyus had a lot of Ethiopian in their dna? I've just seen a dna map showing we're closely related to your Hamar people from the Omo river valley.
Btw,those 2 actually resemble 2 chicks I know.

9jakool:

Then differentiate them when appropriate. You were wrong when you started talking about Hausas-Fulanis conquering Northern Cameroon and parts of Nigeria, because it was the Fulanis who did, not the Hausas. To say, Hausa-Fulani conquered Northern Cameroon and parts of Nigeria will be historically inaccurate. Also, I am not removing Hausas from the Fulanis in Northern Nigeria's history, I am simply correcting the inaccurate info.



No, during the Jihad, it wasn't more of a mixed thing as you put it. In Northern Cameroon, the Fulanis fought wars with the native, not the Hausa-Fulanis as you put it. The significant mixing in Nigeria among the Hausas happened AFTER the Hausas were conquered.



They were always warring, however here is a significant detail, the Hausa conquest happened in a matter of just 4 years from 1804-1808. The conquest of the Hausas was by the Fulanis. Most of the gains of conquest happened in the 2 decades following this. In fact one of the last, if not the last territorial gain of the Sokoto caliphate happened in 1824 after the capture of Ilorin. In the later decades, Sokoto caliphate was expansion was halted.



And what defines a civilization again? The Europeans called themselves civilized and yet committed genocides, practiced forced conversion, and slavery.

The Sokoto practiced brutal execution methods like stoning and amputation. In fact the Sokoto caliphate was the state that had the most slaves per state in Africa on record in modern history and the second in the world only behind the American South. Benin traveled on foot, ok, so would a camel or a horse survive in the forest belt of Nigeria?

When i saw your first reply 2me n continued seeing your presence here without a comment, i knew a long post bombardments was coming @me very soon. Lol.

**** I am not absolving the fulanis as the major conquerors, all i am saying is that the fulanis after conquering hausas made use of Hausa soldiers to conquer other areas n these numerous hausa soldiers also settled the newly formed emirates together with the fulani conquerors. This was the similar case that played out with the Nupes. Till date, it is regarded that Nupe jihadists were the ones who raided n conquered Auchi, buh the Nupes only formed the foot soldiers while the leaders were still fulanis (who were already becoming Nupenized).

Yaaah, buh i agree with you, in the case of Adamawa emirate (which includes Cameroon) n to an extent Gombe, most of the foot soldiers were not hausa n this lead to stronger n more homogenous fulani settlements buh in other conquered parts of Nigeria (emirates), the fulani settlements were heavily diluted by hausa culture n language.

¤¤¤¤ Talking about hausa kingdoms being easily conquered, it wasn't as if Danfodio n his men engaged all the hausas in a full scale war. It was more of an internal usurpation of power by deposition of the apparent corrupted hausa royalties. A situation which many hausas themselves also supported (Danfodio). It wasn't a full scale war.

Yaah, Sokoto caliphate expansion was repelled by some Nigerian groups buh that didn't stop their forceful desire to sink the Koran in the atlantic ocean, did it? They re-inforced n took other routes usually. Most Plateau n Southern Kaduna tribes, Jukuns, Tivs n Mumuyes repelled them buh that didn't stop them from diverting to Nasarawa area n they did much havoc n islamization in Nasarawa area (lower Plateau). They also managed to later penetrate the Plateau through Wase/Kanam axis through eastern bauchi n Taraba north.
So, believe me, one way or the other they might have re-attacked yoruba land (perhaps through the Nupe jihadists who had taken over Auchi). I have also read about how Nupe-fulani jihadists raided Okun yorubas/Ebiras n almost conquered them. Lemme look for those documents. I need to re-read them again.

kikuyu1:
ednited,hati13,come in please! Remember I told you Kikuyus had a lot of Ethiopian in their dna? I've just seen a dna map showing we're closely related to your Hamar people from the Omo river valley.
Btw,those 2 actually resemble 2 chicks I know.

Kenya and Ethiopia share many things.
Like so many. We both have Oromos too



You have a cricket player called 'Injera' right?

hehe

Injera is the name of our food. Did you know??

HarryDuce:
And she doesn't get tired of discussing culture

N history too dear (wink wink ) as a proud history student that i am.

genieluv:


Is it just me or you are an Indian troll? Well thats something. I never knew Indians would stalk n troll africans.
Hey, why don't u go stalk Pakistanis? cos really i don't see anyone who would be so interested in india here except probably Kenyans who may be obsessed with Indians .
Hey TayserMahiri, Pissedyagami, mtis, stop starring at moi, i didn't say nothing (runs away)

I wanted to shout but its OK..Arrête de haïr des gens femme idiot

kikuyu1:
ednited,hati13,come in please! Remember I told you Kikuyus had a lot of Ethiopian in their dna? I've just seen a dna map showing we're closely related to your Hamar people from the Omo river valley.
Btw,those 2 actually resemble 2 chicks I know.

Interesting.. Link please..

At the same time there's much Cushitic ancestry in this part of the world according to the African Genome Project. Masaais are 55% Cushite,Kikuyus 40% .

Almost forgot,here's the link:[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... igure/FG1/[/url]
The thing is what was the size of the sample? Is it representative enough;ie does it account for the particular geographic distribution? I heard the sample took only 20 Kikuyus in Nyeri,IIRC.

According to Tishkoff et al study.

The Maasai were collectively around…
~55% Cushitic
~25% Nilo-Saharan
~20% Niger-Kordofanian

The Luhya were…
~78% Niger-Kordofanian
~22% Nilo-Saharan
~0% Cushitic

The Kikuya from Tishoff et al. and the Tutsi samples were around…
~40% Cushitic
~45% Niger-Kordofanian

Btw,Hamars have the womens whipping culture.

There's another link showing even more Ethio Kikuyu links here [url]http://ethiohelix..co.ke/2012/1 ... n.html?m=1[/url]
but its a bit complicated.

Lionessza:



Lol, when you've never had a good working government that can provide all its citizens with basic amenities i guess you'd think it's onyibo magic when you see it in another country . It's pathetic really.

Lionessza n TayserMahiri sitting on a tree. K...I...S....S....I....( lol)... ...(i didn't say that pls )

**++Bantu lovers in trolling Nigerians++**
Kikuyu + Zulu troublemakers = Kikulu or Zukulu troublemakers.

TayserMahiri:


It is A guy here is saying the motor truck should be washed cos Oyinbo says so

OK that's funny I think Nigerians are missing white an coloured people alot that's why they don't understand why SA an Kenya should have them...