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| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 2:21pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:Region and states were always used interchangeably between each other. There's no reason Ejoor would even imply that a state is a minority because there's no state that's a minority but minority tribes. We got the gist already and not stupid enough to translate the statement literally unlike the dull ibos! The point is everyone with a sound brain already got the gist from what Ejoor was saying but the manipulative treacherous weasels are already twisting it to suit their taste. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 2:25pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:Also, why would supposed Igbo supremacists with a supposed Igbo supremacist idea have a Yoruba guy as one of their main co-collaborators and other non-Igbos as co-collaborators? That doesn't make sense from either perspective. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by jargo89(m): 2:26pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:There are always two sides to a coin dear. Dont get dragged into tribalism. You may not believe but he has said he's part of the story which some has testified to. No one is trying to portray Igbo as negative. I certainly am not. Those first coup plotters though made a wrong decision that planted a seed of discord and a negative chain reaction. If killing political leaders of other regions except those of the East wont bring suspicion, what else will. Imagine if a Yoruba man at your place of work sacks all top officials from Igbo and Hausa extraction but leave the Yorubas. What will you suspect dear? Your suspicion wont be on hatred then but based on common sense. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 2:28pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:They were both used interchangeably. Moreover, don't tell me you didn't get the gist from what he was saying except if you want to put on that manipulative coat like majority of ibo often do. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 2:30pm On Jul 01, 2017*. Modified: 5:25pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:And did Ademoyega state that they wanted to install an Igbo? Did he call the coup an Igbo coup? How did you demonic selves arrive at the Igbo coup agenda if not through conjectures, half truths and misinterpretations of events to fit into your demonic pre conceived Igbo coup agenda? Exactly. Nzeogwu and co fell for the lies of Fajuyi who convinced them that installing an ex convict that was in jail for corrupt practices and treasonable felony was the best for Nigeria at that moment. How naive they were. If only they knew they were playing into the hands of Awolowo and Yoruba agenda. Again, Zik can't be Awolowo number one Enemy, when Akintola had through the help of Saraduna and Balewa rendered Awo a political non entity. A man his house was on fire cannot be chasing rats. Well, desperate times required desperate measures, Igbos were the bulk of the military and had the expertise, what option did Awolowo had? You find it easy to believe that Igbos could involve Yorubas like Ademoyega, Fajuyi, and we're trying to recruit Gowon and Ejoor, in a supposedly Igbo coup, but can't believe that Awolowo could have Igbos in his coup? Well, even Ojukwu had Banjo, a Yoruba man leading Biafra march to the Lagos, does that now make Lagos March by Biafrans , like your Yoruba brother pointed out, a Yoruba agenda? Again, desperate times, desperate measures. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 2:34pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:I will repeat what I said before: where have you seen the West and East referred to as the 'Western State' or the 'Eastern State' prior to the Biafran war? Someone as learned as Aguiyi-Ironsi would not have gotten something as simple as that so incredibly wrong. Ejoor is claiming that this is a direct quote from Aguiyi-Ironsi and that is a lie. Sometimes, when people lie, they fail to take into account the little details like this- that is something that only the best liers do. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Nobody: 2:36pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:Still gnawing about this awo Bone. Awo was so smart and while in jail, he was playing the Igbos to plot a coup that would install him.I hear you chief. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 2:36pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:It's like you left your brain on the part that your harlot, Zik was out of the country during coup plot, even when his doctor stated that he was sound and healthy. Is that too difficult to understand this fact that he was tipped off about the coup? That's why it's an Ibo coup, dunce! And the fact that Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna, Ibo boys spearheaded the coup! These are facts! |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 2:38pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:The word "State " was not even parlance used in Nigerian government of those days. What we had were regions, Divisions, Provinces, Counties, but never States. There was no way in hell that Ironsi would have used the word "State " to refer to Mid west in before 1967. Ejoor is a senile old man. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 2:42pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:It would be a waste of time to engage you seeing the back and forth between you and other posters here. But read This is Mr Emmanuel Okotie-eboh’s narrative; “The genesis of Nigeria’s problem- my witness, (1). That coup carried out in January 1966, was mismanaged by the soldiers. It was made to look like an Ibo coup. While officers from other tribes were killed, no Ibo officer was touched. No Ibo minister, leader or soldier was touched. Col. Victor Banjo met the premier of the eastern region, Chief Michael Okpara with his visitor Arch Bishop Ferdinand Marcus of Greece, Okpara, an Ibo man was let go. So that coup was tagged an Ibo coup and that is where the ‘cookie crumbled’. What do you expect from the Hausas? Should they sit down and look? They retaliated by killing Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi, who became the head of state after the senate head Nwafor Orizu, an Ibo man, handed over to him. Same time, many Ibo top military officers were rounded up and killed. Yakubu Gowon was made head of state by the northern coup plotters but Odumegwu Ojukwu who was military governor of the eastern region wanted to know the whereabout of Aguiyi Ironsi. With no proper response from Gowon, tension rose up in the country, killings started in the north, Ojukwu called all Ibos to come back home. Talks started, more talks, Aburi etc and when the centre could no longer hold, things fell apart. That is part one. I do not think we need part two. The mistake of the coup plotters; If Michael Okpara was killed, no one would have tagged that coup an Ibo coup and maybe, we would not have fought the civil war….” http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/06/emmanuel-okotie-ebohs-testimony/ |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 2:45pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:Ibo men spearheaded the coup. Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna were the leaders! Did you think Awolowo would allow ibo guys to lead his coup, even if he were to allow ibos in the coup? Dey use sense na! |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by laudate: 2:45pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Dumaknesset: Diademk07:ROFLMAO!! ![]()
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| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 2:49pm On Jul 01, 2017*. Modified: 3:50pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:Still clutching on conjectures! The Bird sang just before the coup, surely this must be because it was an Igbo coup, those birds saw Igbos plotting the coup. That's how silly you sound with your conjectures. If the coup were indeed an Igbo coup, Zik need not stay out of Nigeria to stay alive, Okpara was in Nigeria, likewise Osadebe and all survived, what's the point of Zik staying outside the country since he had pre knowledge of the coup, and the boys supposedly carrying out an Igbo agenda couldn't have killed him. You lots are mentally retarded. Zik was out of the country for whatever reason best known to him, he might have been commiting debauchery with pretty carribean girls or he could just be renewing his charms from a carribean witch doctor and needed an alibi to leave the country. One thing is sure, Ifeajuna was not Zik cousin like demonic Yoruba propagandists propagate, and Ifeajuna and indeed all others involved in the coup, denied sharing details of the coup with anyone else, including with Zik. Ultimately, your Zik story is in line with your usual conjectures and misrepresentation and interpretation of facts. You need help. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 2:51pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:Ejoor made his narration after the civil war, right? So yes, he's in the right to use whatever synonyms he deem right to use and people with sound brain already got the gist from what Ejoor was implying with his use of "minority state". |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 2:55pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Who is Emmanuel Okotie Eboh, lol! He is entitled to his own opinions and interpretation of events, but not to his own facts! Show me direct quote from the coup plotters, including Ademoyega, calling the Coup an Igbo coup, and I would rest my case. If you can't do this after 50 years of your lies, what does that say about your demonic nature of propagating a calumny and hate campaign against an Ethnic group in bid to justify the massacre of innocent Igbo civilians by Nigerians? |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by laudate: 2:57pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:Abeg, leave them to continue splitting hairs over the use of the word 'state' vs. 'region'. Everyone can see that it must have been a slip of the tongue or the pen on the part of Ejoor. This is what people do when they run out of valid facts and real substance to buttress their points. They start focusing on the inconsequential phrases, that do not have much impact on the overall meaning of what the writer or speaker was trying to portray.. ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 2:58pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:LOL! Now it's Zik was out for whatever reason? Lmao.. You're still leaving that brain of yours to not know that Zik wasn't out for whatever reason but for treatment, even when his doctor claimed he was sound and healthy! In fact, the doctor had to return because his journey abroad consumed a lot of his money whereas your harlot, Zik remained abroad! These are facts! Secondly, why would ibo boys spearhead your acclaimed Awolowo's coup? Was there no Yoruba to lead the coup? You're a dunce and you know it, it's high time you started singing that phrase along. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 3:01pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:This is from me:Reps ipsa loquitor. Chew on that. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 3:02pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
jargo89:You may not be but Ejoor certainly is, hence his constant use of the word "Igbos" when referring to the coup plotters despite admitting that there were non-Igbos involved in it. He didn't even bother to say "Igbo coup plotters" or even "Igbo soldiers" but just "Igbos" thereby generalising the whole ethnic group. It shows his contempt for the Igbos imo. Btw, the coup plotters most definitely did not "sow a seed of discord". Have you seen some of the tribalist comments from prominent Nigerian politicians prior to the coup? ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 3:04pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
laudate:Exactly! Sometime, I wonder if these kind of manipulative dullness is genetic with the Ibos but I won't believe that because I'm sure there are some ibos who are different from these ones although I'm still waiting for them to prove me wrong. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by jargo89(m): 3:07pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:You conveniently avoided my question though. It's all good dear. I pray God's will be done |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 3:10pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:Lol! Why did Zik need to leave the country to avoid being around during a supposedly Igbo coup? If a coup was being planned by Igbos with Zik being aware, common sense dictates that Zik need not leave the country, as there was no point doing that, since his life was not in any bit in danger. Okpara, Osadebe all stayed in Nigeria and all survived, why exactly should Zik leave and how exactly does his absence justify the Igbo coup propaganda you are propagating? Do you have brain at all? He stayed away from Nigeria to avoid being killed? How could that be when the coup was an Igbo coup, surely, he must know his life was not in danger.. He stayed away from Nigeria to have an alibi on why he wasn't killed by the Igbo coup plotters, so as to avoid people suspecting foul play and avoid Igbo coup suspicion ? Well, how can that be, when Okpara and Osadebey were Igbos already and were in Nigeria then and yet were not killed, If the plan was to avoid suspicion of Igbo coup, then not only Zik needed to be out of the country, Okpara and Osadebey needed to be out of the country too, to justify their survival. This is to me, common sense, which is obviously a luxury that Igbophobic demonic beings can't afford. Why was Nzeogwu chosen to lead an Awolowo (Yoruba) coup? The same reason Banjo(a Yoruba) was chosen to lead a Biafran March to Lagos. Desperate times, desperate measures. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 3:10pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:First you said that the Midwest was referred to as a 'state' before then you claimed that it was used interchangeably with the word 'region' and now you're saying that Ejoor is using words that are currently used to describe those areas in a historic context. However, those aren't supposed to be Ejoor's words, are they? He's claiming that that's what Aguiyi-Ironsi, a man who died before the states were even created, said. That's why I asked if Aguiyi-Ironsi could see the future as that's the only plausible reason, other than Ejoor is lying, of course. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 3:12pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:Yes, they may not have directly sowed a seed of discord but some of your brethren in the North acted like eediots through their actions. They kept on mocking the Northerners who were still mourning the death of their leaders! That was what led to the civil wars. And it's like you haven't learnt your lesson today because once your lord and saviour, Kanu started with his hate speeches and mocking, you kept on lauding him as the messiah. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 3:13pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:Now let me serve you Nkwobi with palm wine from excerpts of Nzeogwu's interview with Dennis Ejindu Ejindu: All right. A lot has been talked and written about the January coup. But how TRIBALISTIC was it really in conception and execution? Nzeogwu: In the North, no. IN THE SOUTH , YES . We were five in number, and initially we knew quite clearly what we wanted to do. We had a short list of people who were either undesirable for the future progress of the country or who by their positions at the time had to be sacrificed for peace and stability. Tribal considerations were completely out of our minds at this stage. But we had a set-back in the execution. Both of us in the North did our best. But the other three who were stationed in the South failed because of incompetence and misguided considerations in the eleventh hour. The most senior among them was in charge of a whole brigade and had all the excuse and opportunity in the world to mobilize his troops anywhere, anyhow and any time. He did it badly. In Lagos, even allowing for one or two genuine mistakes, the job was badly done. The Mid-West was never a big problem. But in the EAST, OUR MAJOR TARGET, NOTHING PRACTICALLY WAS DONE. He and the others let us down. https://maxsiollun./2008/02/20/interview-with-major-nzeogwu/ I can anticipate what you'd say but nevertheless spin, pazienza, spin. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 3:16pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
jargo89:I honestly didn't read your question but now that I have, I don't think that it's a good analogy to use considering all of the other factors surrounding the coup. Using your analogy, the coup consisted of an Igbo man running around Nigeria, killing all non-Igbo politicians. This was not the case and the fact that you think that it was makes me question your judgment. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 3:18pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Where did Nzeogwu call that coup Igbo coup in the article you just posted. Don't for once think you are presenting a new info here, I had dissected that article with you Igbophobic co travellers many times here, and other than Conjectures and misrepresentation of Nzeogwu words to suit their already prepared conceived conclusion of Igbo coup, all of them failed to show me where and how Nzeogwu called the coup an Igbo coup. Keep roaming. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 3:20pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Ngozi123:No, I was only explaining the context of that statement. The fact is the midwest was a minority state/region or whichever ways it is, carved out from the West. The context is all that matter and it's as clear as daylight yet you're hell bent on the word 'state' but the question is, do actually think Ejoor meant that some states in this present Nigeria are minority? Pray tell, which of the state is a minority state? Of course, he was talking about his midwest region/state! Jeez! |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 3:22pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:Exactly. I don't know why that poster keeps switching his arguments from 'state was used to describe MidWest region' to 'state was used interchangeably with region' to 'Ejoor used a modern concept to describe a historical one'. Which one is it? ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 3:25pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
“……Yet there was one arrangement we had left till the date was fixed. It was the arrangement for the release of political prisoners, particularly Chief Awolowo. Now that our own date had been tentatively fixed for mid ‐ January, it became necessary to gear up that arrangement. At the end of the first week in January, Major Anuforo and I arranged to meet Captain Udeaja……….Having briefed Udeaja generally and got his consent, we gave him his task. He was to fly in a special plane provided for the purpose to Calabar on the morning of the D – Day , to effect the release of Chief Awolowo and bring him to Lagos on the plane…”. -Ademoyega |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Diademk07: 3:27pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
pazienza:Lmao. How would Zik have known that he wouldn't be killed? Or that the Yorubas who were fed lies by Nzeogwu and ifeajuna in the coup wouldn't run riot and out of their leader's step to kill him? He left the country to be on the safer side! Let me laugh again at your Nzeowgu and Ifeajuna, ibo boys leading your acclaimed Awolowo's coup! You're so shameless! |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 3:28pm On Jul 01, 2017 |
Diademk07:If you're claiming with this comment that Igbos in the North brought the 1966 pogroms on themselves then I'd point you to the 1945 pogrom in Jos and 1953 pogrom in Kanu plus the many others that succeeded them against the Igbos. The common denominator here was not and is not the assassination of several Northern leaders. |
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Everyone can see that it must have been a slip of the tongue or the pen on the part of Ejoor. This is what people do when they run out of valid facts and real substance to buttress their points. They start focusing on the inconsequential phrases, that do not have much impact on the overall meaning of what the writer or speaker was trying to portray.. 